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MikeofKd:
Well For the Christian religious folks it either heaven or hell , for others I don't know.
Everyone has a belief system subconsciously governing them, for the Christians the fear of hell frightens them to behave morally upright.
But there's no prove that heaven or hell exists , because if the body dies , then the spirit departs from the body , making the body an empty vessel. A spirit outside a body flows up air, it doesn't follow the laws of gravity , a spirit is similar to air precisely , it cannot hold it cannot feel , it cannot touch like a active human body can , so if hell was real how then do you explain fire burning a spirit , since the body is left back on earth , it doesn't make any sense.


In the other the concept of wether heaven or hell is real is purely theoretical , there's also no prove that heaven exists , some brainwashed Christian folks would say heaven is in the sky or above the earth , that's gibberish, backed up with no scientific accuracy or data.

But to answer your question , I don't think anyone fully understands the concept of death but I do to an extent , you see death just like time is an illusion, it's not real , there are traditional ways you can communicate with the dead which leaves you with only more curiosity that if death was actually real why then can we communicate with the dead.

Death is like a trance , leaving one experience ( physical ) to another experience ( spiritual )
I for one think when one dies , there's a switch between 2 worlds which are the ( physical and spiritual world)

so when one dies , he/she goes into the spirits world , now the spirits world is complex unlike the physical world , no one can describe what the spirit world looks like , even people that have died and came back , they didn't enter into the spirit world , you can't return once Ur in the spirit world.
Whatever happens in the spirit world stays in the spirit world but then there's reincarnation so can come back to earth as a human , animal or any living thing. The circle continues until God get bored and pulls the plug I guess.

247man:
Same place where animals go

247man:
Same place where animals go

pusapou:
be deceiving yourself

slipperyanus07:
Humans never dies we only leave the outer carcass (body) ur consciousness is the real you it never dies it will always exist but in another dimension (spirit world)

slipperyanus07:
Humans never dies we only leave the outer carcass (body) ur consciousness is the real you it never dies it will always exist but in another dimension (spirit world)

KingDashx:
Our main purpose is to reproduce, that's why they are only 2 genders to maintain the existence of the human race...

When a person dies the work has ended, no heaven, no hell, no nothing....

Only the physical body feels pain, emotions and dies.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Host78:
what was it like before you were born?

It wasn't nothing.

It just wasn't. Nothing was before you were born. Not even your 'self'.

The world unfolds almost immediately you became conscious.

It's the same when you die. The world folds up immediately and there's that emptiness. Not darkness but emptiness.

We can't imagine this complete nothingness.

As such, we do not come from anywhere at least not one we can point to. And we do not go anywhere, at least not one we can point to.

Everything anyone says is something they learned from others who has not seen it before

Roycemadeit:
It’s not a strange question, but it’s one our minds have been conditioned to ask, assuming that when a person dies, there must be some other place they go. Yet the obvious answer is right before us. When someone dies, they are placed in a coffin and buried, or they are cremated and their ashes scattered or stored.

If the question is pointing to something other than you, something that is “you but not you”, then we are stepping into realms beyond what our senses can confirm. And the moment you enter that space, you’re no longer talking about observable reality but about belief. For you to imagine a destination that your eyes cannot see, you must first accept the premise of belief.

So this question itself springs from belief. Any answer given to you about where a person “goes”, beyond burial or cremation, will be based on belief, not empirical fact. And belief, by nature, is an assumed knowing.

What we know is simple: when a person dies, they go into the ground, or their ashes are kept or scattered.

highchief1:
they go to their grave and decay.e no get where else wey anybody Dey go.

josielewa:
NOW IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUL, THATS ANOTHER TOPIC ENTIRELY...WHAT YOU CALL THE SOUL IS JUST HUMAN LEARNING AND INTERACTION WITH HIS ENVIRONMENT SO AS TO MAKE DECISIONS...THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SOUL, SPIRITS GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL..YOUR SOUL IS THAT WHICH DEFINES YOUR PHYSICAL REALITY...WHEN YOU DIE, THAT SOUL CEASE TO EXIST, ITS GONE AND PEOPLE ONLY HAVE MEMORIES OF YOU.., NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

ohabiam:
All the while, when dem they shout say “ when you die you either go to heaven or hell”, where you dey abi where you keep ur ears.

kgr8mike:
They simply go back to there maker and give account of the time that was allocated to them to live here and they will be rewarded accordingly.

DiarisGodoo:
Except that REALITY proves you wrong. There are countless cases of children who clearly remembered their previous lives!

liveyourlife007:
Where you go after Death depends on how you use your free will.
If your free will on earth was to do good, help people, serve God and have His fear in your heart whenever you want to do something, I mean your conscience, then you will go to Heaven.

But if your free will is otherwise, that is doing bad, for example, you used all your children for money rituals while on earth, Then Hell is your final place of Rest. Sheol. The place of Damnation.

As simple as ABC

highchief1:
myths and stories.Bro we and cow 🐄 no difference.religion has destroyed us irredeemably.heaven and hell is on earth here.theres no where anybody goes after death.

Roycemadeit:

Reality?
People claim past lives or near-death visions of heaven, hell, or Jannah, but I don't have such memory or identity, can I claim be a returning consciousness? If I returned as a grandson would my father recognise me as his grandfather? Am I still the same grandfather, even when I am from the loins of my father? And even if I were, where did I go to? The answer still screams, belief!!! Yet, what is that you?

DiarisGodoo:
Except that REALITY proves you wrong. There are countless cases of children who clearly remembered their previous lives!

Alusiizizi:
No satisfactory explanation of consciousness has yet been presented, indeed, the very definition of the word is hazy at best. Personally, I prefer Dr. Roger Penroses attempt at its description. For those who don't know, Dr. Penrose is a notable theoretical Physics and a Nobel laureate(2023 prize for his theory of trapped surfaces beyond the event horizon of a black hole, thus proving that, given the current understanding of General Relativity, a singularity must form at its center). Basically, his thesis centers around the theory of computation and the Godel incompleteness theorem, which basically asserts that all mathematical systems contains axioms that cannot be proven from within aforementioned mathematical system. What this essentially implies for computation machines, whether we are talking hard code software or even the most advanced A.I, is that the product of any computing machine must directly be correlated to an input, i.e. computing machines cannot create information that was not already fed into it.

Which brings us to the problem of humans. It is a matter of fact that humans routinely create new information, and this is where Penroses theses come to play: Human minds do not obey the Godel incompleteness theorem because the source of human consciousness is not a classical system but a quantum mechanical one, in other words, human minds are actually quantum computers and not classical computers.

Now, what does all this have to do with the final destination of human consciousness? Well, we know that something called "entanglement" is the very center of all quantum processes, which means that human minds, and therefore consciousness, is entangled with the rest of the universe, so perhaps, when a human dies, his body might die but his consciousness could very well linger on.

MikeofKd:
Well For the Christian religious folks it either heaven or hell , for others I don't know.
Everyone has a belief system subconsciously governing them, for the Christians the fear of hell frightens them to behave morally upright.
But there's no prove that heaven or hell exists , because if the body dies , then the spirit departs from the body , making the body an empty vessel. A spirit outside a body flows up air, it doesn't follow the laws of gravity , a spirit is similar to air precisely , it cannot hold it cannot feel , it cannot touch like a active human body can , so if hell was real how then do you explain fire burning a spirit , since the body is left back on earth , it doesn't make any sense.


In the other the concept of wether heaven or hell is real is purely theoretical , there's also no prove that heaven exists , some brainwashed Christian folks would say heaven is in the sky or above the earth , that's gibberish, backed up with no scientific accuracy or data.

But to answer your question , I don't think anyone fully understands the concept of death but I do to an extent , you see death just like time is an illusion, it's not real , there are traditional ways you can communicate with the dead which leaves you with only more curiosity that if death was actually real why then can we communicate with the dead.

Death is like a trance , leaving one experience ( physical ) to another experience ( spiritual )
I for one think when one dies , there's a switch between 2 worlds which are the ( physical and spiritual world)

so when one dies , he/she goes into the spirits world , now the spirits world is complex unlike the physical world , no one can describe what the spirit world looks like , even people that have died and came back , they didn't enter into the spirit world , you can't return once Ur in the spirit world.
Whatever happens in the spirit world stays in the spirit world but then there's reincarnation so can come back to earth as a human , animal or any living thing. The circle continues until God get bored and pulls the plug I guess.

Trustedpronet:
We like to believe anything sha....read your Bible oga the answer is right there. There will be a final resurrection

The Bible says everyone will rise again one day:

Believers rise to eternal life

Unbelievers rise to judgment
(John 5:28–29)

Urgent1Million:
They go to the grave, obviously.

Urgent1Million:
They go to the grave, obviously.

247man:
Same place where animals go

DiarisGodoo:
There body. But you are more than yiur body

Urgent1Million:
The question is about death.
It's the body that dies.
The soul doesn't die.

josielewa:
THE TRUTH IS NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE GOING AFTER DEATH. ALL LIVING ORGANISM ARE JUST AN EMBODIMENT OF ENERGY. WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BIRTHED? YOU DONT KNOW, LIKEWISEYOU NOT KNOWING WHERE YOU WILL GO WHEN YOU DIE. CREATOR HAS PUT CREATION INTO AN EVERLASTING LOOP CALLED REPRODUCTION. PEOPEL KEEPDYING AND PEOPLE KEEP GIVING BIRTH ON A DAILY.

WHAT BIRTHED YOU OR CREATED YOU IS THE MIXTURE OF CODE AND ENERGY. YOUR PARENTS EXCHANGED FLUIDS AND MADE YOU, SAME WAY ANIMALS EXCHANGE FLUIDS AND BIRTH THEIR OFFSPRING. WE ARE ALL ENERGY WALKING, TALKING AND DOING GREAT THINGS. WHEN YOU DIE, YOU ENERGY IS TAKEN BACK INTO THE EARTH AND YOUR PHYSICAL AWARENESS ( THIS WORLD) IS GONE. YOU BECOME MANURE, AND YOUR ENERGY FLOWS BACK INTO THE EARTH. WE ARE BEING RECYCLED. YOUR DEAD BODY IS GIVING TO THE EARTH AS DUST, SAND, MANURE ETC, PLANTS GET ENERGY FROM YOUR DEAD AND ROTTEN BODY, HAVE YOU TRIED LEAVING A DEAD BODY IN FIELD, WHAT HAPPENS, IT ROTS AND THE ENERGY IS TAKEN BY THE EARTH AND TRANSFORMED INTO ANOTHER TYPE OF ENERGY, MAYBE NEW PLANT, MUCOUS, FUNGUS ETC..

THE QUSETION ABOUT WHERE WE GO IS ANSWERED IN THIS WRITE UP, WE ARE GOING NO WHERE, WE ONLY TRANSFORM ENERGY THROUGH THE POWER OF THE EARTH(SOIL), WE ARE ALWAYS HERE 100% OF THE TIME. DO YOU IF YOU HAVE EATEN THE ENERGY FROM ANOTHER ANIMAL OR HUMAN, THE PLANT , ANIMALS AND HUMANS ALL GET AND GIVE ENERGY TO ONE ANOTHER.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SPIRITUAL OR RELIGIOUS ANGLE, I WILL SAY THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM. BUT AS FAR AS AM CONCERNED, IF HUMANS DIE, THEY GO NOWHERE, THEY ARE STILL A PART OF THE UNIVERSE..

WHAT MADE YOU ASK THIS QUESTION IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS TO QUESTION THINGS, TAKE THAT AWAY AND YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE ANIMALS I THE FIELD, YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS WHAT IS BEGGING THIS QUESTION. WE ALL DONT ACTUALLY DIE, WE JUST ADD TO WHATS INTHE UNIVERSE, WE ARE GOING NOWHERE....