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They become aware as other people or other living things probably.All things are, in a sense, personalities of the awareness we call consciousness. Consciousness is as if the mirror on which existence is reflected. You are always conscious.

liveyourlife007:
Where you go after Death depends on how you use your free will.
If your free will on earth was to do good, help people, serve God and have His fear in your heart whenever you want to do something, I mean your conscience, then you will go to Heaven.

But if your free will is otherwise, that is doing bad, for example, you used all your children for money rituals while on earth, Then Hell is your final place of Rest. Sheol. The place of Damnation.

As simple as ABC

That is YOUR believe and your believe is just that, beliefs.

Alusiizizi:
No satisfactory explanation of consciousness has yet been presented, indeed, the very definition of the word is hazy at best. Personally, I prefer Dr. Roger Penroses attempt at its description. For those who don't know, Dr. Penrose is a notable theoretical Physics and a Nobel laureate(2023 prize for his theory of trapped surfaces beyond the event horizon of a black hole, thus proving that, given the current understanding of General Relativity, a singularity must form at its center). Basically, his thesis centers around the theory of computation and the Godel incompleteness theorem, which basically asserts that all mathematical systems contains axioms that cannot be proven from within aforementioned mathematical system. What this essentially implies for computation machines, whether we are talking hard code software or even the most advanced A.I, is that the product of any computing machine must directly be correlated to an input, i.e. computing machines cannot create information that was not already fed into it.

Which brings us to the problem of humans. It is a matter of fact that humans routinely create new information, and this is where Penroses theses come to play: Human minds do not obey the Godel incompleteness theorem because the source of human consciousness is not a classical system but a quantum mechanical one, in other words, human minds are actually quantum computers and not classical computers.

Now, what does all this have to do with the final destination of human consciousness? Well, we know that something called "entanglement" is the very center of all quantum processes, which means that human minds, and therefore consciousness, is entangled with the rest of the universe, so perhaps, when a human dies, his body might die but his consciousness could very well linger on.

All these long writeups is needless. The Bible states clearly "it is appointed unto men once to die. After that, the Judgement" When someone dies. If He was born again and has been given eternal life by Jesus, he or she goes to Abraham's Bossom while an evil person goes to hell. Awaiting the day of the White Throne Judgement when he'll be summoned and judged according to his works on earth. Read the account of The Rich man and Lazarus For clarity on this

liveyourlife007:
😊 Interesting. Do you want us to brainstorm on the Topic.
We can stretch it to reincarnation,Life after death, The 5th Dimension,Quantum physics, Black hole and more.
But I need to know if you are a believer or an Atheist.

Oga,he asked a simple question.
Can you prove it or you are just regurgitating some brainwashed ideas force fed you?

Dtruthspeaker:
So the fear and great chill that occurs when people are about to die does not exist abi?

What does fear and great chill have to do with proving the existence life after death?
So because you fear death and h ell,it's now a proof of life after death?

Dtruthspeaker:
Why did you not clearly say that you are not afraid of death? You cannot because you know that all the guilts you are guilty for, follow you through your life till the point of death. But you are living in denial.

You think you are the first and those who died did not live in denial?

You are joking. Your power of denial vanishes when death is near. Go and check any dying person and see whether they have any power to deny Truth.

Nobody knows what happens after death and that is why anyone fears.

You can make up stories of h£ll to suit your need to continue existence at some level after death but that doesn't mean nothing.

All you are doing is grasping at straws.

KingDashx:
gay no get preek?

Gay want same sex not opposite sex

Philippians 1: 23, 2 Corinthians 5: 8, Luke 23: 43


Philippians 1:23
23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;


2 Corinthians 5:8
8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.


Luke 23:43
43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

Note for Luke23: 43. that was before Jesus death, because he went to paradise to meet the godly who died before his death, now after his resurrection, he stays in heaven sited at the right hand of the Father, so our souls will go directly to heaven instead of paradise.

Truthseeker10:
Kindly quote a verse that supports your statement in bold above.

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you real eyes that you need indispensable evidence, then therefore is it not reasonable to believe He Who Came Down from heaven and Who has testified of it even before He died and came back and went back up in the presence of witnesses?

Your Bible and whatever is written there is not a proof of anything.

A book of talking Donkeys and Snakes?

That is your proof?

🙆🏽

soulkiss18:
Ok u know what I take back d insult, kindly explain further, preach to me I want to meet Jesus. Convince me please

I really don't care if you Insult me. I am not like the regular believer that you know. I enjoy it when I see people swim in ignorance and disbelief.

Trust me bro, it is not compulsory you must believe in JESUS. Jesus never said it is.

We are brothers and I am a believer but you are not. It's just ok with me. I still like you the way you are.

Ok? Good boy!


Na me create you wey I go preach for you? Was I there when they were fertilizing your egg? The truth is when you die anyhow you see yourself you take it like that. Ok?

What I have as a Catholic is what I don't share anyhow. I just see myself as the privileged few. I have had multiple subconscious encounters I could no longer talk like people who don't know about their subconsciousness.

KidFromForeign:
Your Bible and whatever is written there is not a proof of anything.

A book of talking Donkeys and Snakes?

That is your proof?

🙆🏽

Whether you like the facts it gives proof of or not, It is proof of anything in it exactly how you present textbooks, magazines, printout etc.
So say something that makes sense, if any

Philosophers are humans like you they only makes sense to you because they became famous due to how people like you rate them.

There is nothing called "SOUL" it's your mind meaning each human has his or her own mind.

If you go for a plastic surgery to change all your looks your mind still keeps what is stored in it that's what makes you you not something invisible that's why the Bible says when you die your soul (mind) dies immediately! Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10 compare to Ezekiel 18:4

lilsmart:
My Argument
We have never seen a soul.
Yet, we universally know and talk about souls. We only see the body die, not the soul part of a person. Therefore, the soul must be an invisible, immortal part of us that continues after the body dies.( just like gravity we know it’s there and as been there from the beginning of time but can not see it) This is the core of the mind body dualism argument, famously proposed by the philosopher René Descartes. He argued that the mind (or soul) is a non physical substance distinct from the physical body.

KidFromForeign:
Nobody knows what happens after death and that is why anyone fears...

Not True.
You fear death because there is something fearful in it that is waiting there

DarkJeddi:
Story from the fairytale book of simple beings.

Are you the one who wrote it to know it's a fairytale?

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Jesus Christ already provided the answers

DiarisGodoo:
Gay want same sex not opposite sex

Omo the only gender I know are male and female.. those are the two basic gender for reproduction, the rest don't count, that's why the bible clearly said ADAM and EVE.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

No where, but recycle ♻️ to our host earth 🌎. Every living thing's death is the vitality and nourishment to earth.

KidFromForeign:
What does fear and great chill have to do with proving the existence life after death?
So because you fear death and h ell,it's now a proof of life after death?

If you are giving the option of traveling to Abuja by road from Benin, would you have chills and fear?

Yes!

Why?

Because of what is waiting for you there.

Unlike if they say you should travel by road from Houston to Georgia, you would not be afraid

Why?

Because the thing you fear in Lokoja is not there on the Houston expressway. It's as simple as that

MaxInDHouse:
You need to know the tricks Satan uses to catch people it's like throwing a bait at his prey pretending he's a friend.

God is the Creator of all the herbs and roots we are using for prevention and cure so because someone discovered it before you doesn't give such a person the right to become your God.

These atheists don't believe in the Bible yet they want you to believe in children dreams about past life when God's word says we came through reproduction and each person that dies can only come back through resurrection.

How does that correlates with the idea of preexistence?

So it's either you choose God's word or the atheists claiming scientists.

Meanwhile the word SCIENCE is derived from SENSE which means if you subjects yourself to their opinion they have sence than you do. Can you do the same to your village herbalist who has been using herbs to cure illnesses?🙂

The way you think eh. God created EVERYTHING not just herbs!
What we are talking about here is OBSERVATION not discovery or invention! And not just by scientists but by countless parents whose children start talking about their past lives and how they died starting around age 2, 3, 4

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7364882016782929194/

Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that all the perspectives of afterlife from every region of the world is false?

I would like to ask you...
How did life and the universe begin?
What is the purpose of humans on earth and how did we get here?
Why is there so much suffering in the world and what is the solution to all suffering?
What do you think is the standard for good and evil if you believe they exist?

^{I have once been asked this question and this was my reply...I suppose you are JW}

Many people turn to sacred texts,chief among them, the Bible, in search of clarity on life’s most enduring questions: Where do we come from? Why are we here? Why is there suffering? If we all seek peace, why is there war?

These texts are often treated as divine instruction manuals, handed down to light the way through human confusion. But when we pause, not out of fear or inherited belief, but from a place of curiosity and courage, we begin to notice something: the answers may not be as absolute as we've been told.

Let’s begin with origins. The Bible offers a creation story, but it is far from the only one. The Yoruba tell of Oranmiyan forming the earth with a five-legged fowl and a shell of sand. In Chinese cosmology, a cosmic egg splits open, birthing yin and yang from which all things emerge. Among the Fulani, divine milk pours from the heavens.

None of these accounts can be proven, but that’s not their point. These stories are cultural expressions of wonder in the face of the unknown. No human witnessed the beginning. So, we make meaning through myth. These tales, passed down through generations, are reflections of the questions people dared to ask, not blueprints of universal truth, but mirrors of cultural imagination.

Why then is the biblical story elevated as the truth?

Largely because it was carried by empires. In Africa, Christianity didn’t take root through some grand spiritual revelation; it came wrapped in colonial conquest. With the missionaries came the sword, and the Bible.

Even the language we now use to describe the divine reveals this history. In the original Hebrew, the name revealed to Moses was YHWH, so sacred it was rarely spoken aloud, often replaced with titles like Adonai (Lord) or HaShem (The Name). Today, we say “God”, a term not native to Hebrew, but from the old Germanic word, "Gudan," meaning “that which is invoked.”

This is not just a translation. It's a transformation. To rename the sacred is to reshape it. It’s a shift not only in language, but in power. Names carry identity, and to change a name is to assert control over how something is seen, spoken of, and understood. You could say even God’s name was colonised. And isn’t that the essence of colonisation, the power to rename, redefine, and rewrite, even the divine?

This isn't an attack on faith, but a call to examine the forces that shape it. Belief is never formed in a vacuum. It’s shaped by culture, politics, and power.

Now to the question of purpose: Why are we here?

Many assume the Bible holds this answer. But much of it is a record of ancient people grappling with their own questions, Abraham, Moses, David. These were not universal declarations addressed to all humanity. They were moments in a larger, evolving dialogue. To rely solely on a 2,000-year-old manuscript to define our personal destiny is to ignore the voices of billions who have sought, and found, meaning in other ways.

If purpose is truly divine, wouldn’t it speak to each of us directly, rather than solely through ancient intermediaries?

Consider also the problem of suffering. When innocent people suffer, the explanation is often “the devil.” But even that raises questions: if God created all things, did He not create, or at least allow, the devil? Isaiah 45:7 says, “I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I the Lord do all these things.” That verse alone challenges the neat division between good and evil often presented in Sunday school.

The Eden story further complicates things. Two humans, innocent and unaware of good or evil, are placed in a garden with a forbidden tree. They’re told not to eat from it, but not given the moral understanding to truly grasp the command. When they do, they are punished, and all of humanity is said to have inherited their guilt, except Enoch and Elijah who are not of his seed.🙃 But then we’re also told humans were made perfect in God’s image. Which is it?


Even more troubling are the stories where God commands the killing of entire nations, including infants. What do such acts say about suffering, innocence, justice, or divine love?

And when we ask why humans war even though they seek peace, the answer often lies in identity. People fight to protect or impose their sense of who they are, tribes, nations, beliefs. Ironically, the Bible itself tells of a time when humanity spoke one language and worked together. But it was God who, fearing their unity, scattered them, confused their speech, and planted the seeds of division. From that division came borders, religions, and conflict.

So we must ask: does the Bible really offer peace, or the beginnings of fragmentation? Does it answer our questions, or deepen our confusion?

There is great power in questioning. Sacredness is not diminished by scrutiny; it is revealed through it. Faith born from fear may feel comforting, but it is not freedom. True understanding begins when we stop clinging to inherited answers and start daring to ask better questions.

Because if this text cannot withstand my honest doubt... would I be right to say that it is divine in the first place?

GanagiBitrus:
One of the many Mysteries of Life.

Can never be unravelled until someone provides undisputed evidence of dying & coming back to life.

Any other claim is subject to your beliefs.

you right, after life is coined out of the fear that the actual existence end.

heaven and hell is also a religious way to tame the actions of man, after death is a mystery and can never be unravel

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Dead bodies get disposed of, nothing more to it. All the ceremony and stories surrounding death is for the living, the dead know nothing.

MaxInDHouse:
Because your school teacher introduced maths to you doesn't mean he is the originator of mathematics, because the English man brought Bible to you doesn't mean he is the author.

There is 100% evidence that Satan exists and that he is controlling mankind just as the book Bible says. 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

All you need to do is ask for proof!🙂

Without Satan, God ceases to exist.

And God has not proven that he is not Satan either, since he embodies the characteristics of Satan....

Even the book of Chronicles and Samuel... Told the same story, using God in one and then, Satan in the other. as the being that pushed David to carry out the census

KingDashx:
Omo the only gender I know are male and female.. those are the two basic gender for reproduction, the rest don't count, that's why the bible clearly said ADAM and EVE.

So why are some born gay and why does sex urge persist long past child-bearing age?

DiarisGodoo:
The way you think eh. God created EVERYTHING not just herbs!
What we are talking about here is OBSERVATION not discovery or invention! And not just by scientists but by countless parents whose children start talking about their past lives and how they died starting around age 2, 3, 4

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7364882016782929194/

If we have to believe everything people have been observing surely there will be no place for God's word that's what Satan is doing underG! 2Corinthians 4:4🙂

yes, because that is what we can see..have you seen the ether before ?, your answer is no, as far as no one can prove the existence of the spiritual world, then i will say its all an illusion...teh body is all we see, we dont see the soul, spirits etc, thats even if they exist

DeepSight:
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The problem with your analysis is that it is limited to what happens to the body.

Roycemadeit:
Without Satan, God ceases to exist.

And God has not proven that he is not Satan either, since he embodies the characteristics of Satan

Can you please expatiate on the highlighted?😟

Heaven or Hell. It depends on their deeds on earth

MaxInDHouse:
Can you please expatiate on the highlighted?😟

Let's have a look at a few

Please say it is my lack of understanding of what is written and then give the right context...


2 Samuel 24:1

“Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, ‘Go, take a census of Israel and Judah.’”

1 Chronicles 21:1

“Now Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.”

Amos 3:6

“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?”

Isaiah 45:7

“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

I also do remember what i called past live, always questioing my dad if he ever worked at thr tin can port or on ships, and he would laugh at me saying no.., the truth is there are no solid eveidence of people truly remebering their past lives, it could be a case o children fantasy or what scientist call paramnesia. everybody will tell you they remember a thing or two about their past lives, but can they prove it.., NO.

DiarisGodoo:
Except that REALITY proves you wrong. There are countless cases of children who clearly remembered their previous lives!

there is no one born gay, your society influences what you become....

DiarisGodoo:
So why are some born gay and why does sex urge persist long past child-bearing age?

good take, the dead tell no tales

LordReed:
Dead bodies get disposed of, nothing more to it. All the ceremony and stories surrounding death is for the living, the dead know nothing.