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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimmarlykay(m): 2:03pm On Nov 22, 2025
Sportsweb:
it shows the religion that has tolerance. Moslems will come to Western countries like USA and UK and do their thing but q Christian cannot do such in Moslem countries
cool

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 2:03pm On Nov 22, 2025
BlueRayDick:
It's crazy mehn!

I think DSS should call Gumi to for his unguarded utterances that keep sounding like he's an appointed spokesperson for the terrorists
If Gumi can get access to the bandits what's stopping Nigeria government from finding their location and bombing them. Blame the right people.

What will you even charge Gumi for? For his opinion on non kinetic approach on solving the problem?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 2:09pm On Nov 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
I agree with him that the handling of security by successive Nigerian govt is a disgrace
Abeg no sugarcoat English for me grin
He said the government (emilokan) is ineffective which is synonymous to useless
Say it with your full chest Emilokan is useless
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:13pm On Nov 22, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Abeg no sugarcoat English for me grin
He said the government (emilokan) is ineffective which is synonymous to useless
Say it with your full chest Emilokan is useless
These are the words he used. He did not say useless. Na you wan dey twist English that Trump didnt say
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 2:19pm On Nov 22, 2025
monerozi5590:
If Gumi can get access to the bandits what's stopping Nigeria government from finding their location and bombing them. Blame the right people.

What will you even charge Gumi for? For his opinion on non kinetic approach on solving the problem?
Yup, however much it's clear that on some level Gumi profits from the insecurity up North, I don't see what the man can be charged with.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 2:25pm On Nov 22, 2025
He no dey stan again

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 2:26pm On Nov 22, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Trump just they use emilokan mop floor

Raumdeuter, Trump said emilokan is useless
Do you agree?
https://www.nairaland.com/8566771/christian-genocide-nigeria-disgrace-government
Did I just hear that we have 22 terrorists groups operating in Nigeria shocked shocked shocked?

Wahala dey oo
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 2:31pm On Nov 22, 2025
Theflint1:
Yup, however much it's clear that on some level Gumi profits from the insecurity up North, I don't see what the man can be charged with.
Gumi made his money from Saudi Arabia. You know Abdulmuttalab the suicide bomber? USA during their investigation saw exchanges/communication between Abdulmuttaab and Gumi. When Gumi visited Saudi Arabia. He was arrested on USA orders. When USA concluded their investigation, they saw no terrorism link between Gumi and Abdulmuttalab. Gumi was advising him and teaching islam and all.

Gumi was released and they had to compensate him for detaining him. They gave him good amount of money.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Akaekpuchionwa2: 2:37pm On Nov 22, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Abeg no sugarcoat English for me grin
He said the government (emilokan) is ineffective which is synonymous to useless
Say it with your full chest Emilokan is useless
Buhari wey dem talk say he reduced insecurity significantly. Say PBAT is the best among equal.
But you have Trump saying that the Nigerian government is "Very Ineffective ".
Abi ineffective don get different meaning?
Abeg OasiX do u believe what Trump said, cox the prosperity wey you dey preach don turn to " very ineffective "..
What's the way forward.??

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 2:47pm On Nov 22, 2025
CrystalTiger:
Did I just hear that we have 22 terrorists groups operating in Nigeria shocked shocked shocked?

Wahala dey oo
Plus herdsmen, bandits, ipob
Yes they up to that
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 2:48pm On Nov 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
These are the words he used. He did not say useless. Na you wan dey twist English that Trump didnt say
Which English I twist
Ineffective is synonymous to useless true or false
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 2:51pm On Nov 22, 2025
monerozi5590:
Gumi made his money from Saudi Arabia. You know Abdulmuttalab the suicide bomber? USA during their investigation saw exchanges/communication between Abdulmuttaab and Gumi. When Gumi visited Saudi Arabia. He was arrested on USA orders. When USA concluded their investigation, they saw no terrorism link between Gumi and Abdulmuttalab. Gumi was advising him and teaching islam and all.

Gumi was released and they had to compensate him for detaining him. They gave him good amount of money.
Gumi is a smart man, he knows how to benefit from criminality within the ambits of the law.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:51pm On Nov 22, 2025
monerozi5590:
If Gumi can get access to the bandits what's stopping Nigeria government from finding their location and bombing them. Blame the right people.

What will you even charge Gumi for? For his opinion on non kinetic approach on solving the problem?
Remember Mailafia?

What did he say about terrorism and Miyetti Allah under Buhari before DSS kept harassing him with invites upon invites?

He mentioned how a northern governor was the commander of Boko Haram and before u know it DSS began inviting him for questioning and claimed he is under criminal investigation for inciting the public with unverifiable info.

Now look at Gumi who keeps making inflammatory statements such as "Bandits are our brothers", Bandits are our freedom fighters ","Bandits attack will not stop if Trump gets involved in terrorism in Northern Nigeria " etc.

What stops the federal government from slamming charges charges against him for inciting the public with his unguarded utterances line they did for Obadiah Mailafia?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:53pm On Nov 22, 2025
Theflint1:
Yup, however much it's clear that on some level Gumi profits from the insecurity up North, I don't see what the man can be charged with.
Maybe u should check what Happened to Obadiah Mailafia in his letter years because he spoke against Miyetti Allah and Boko Haram.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 2:59pm On Nov 22, 2025
The numbers keep rising.. Reason I said schools should be shut down..

The logistics of moving over 300 people with so much ease..God forbid evil..

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:12pm On Nov 22, 2025
CrystalTiger:
The numbers keep rising.. Reason I said schools should be shut down..

The logistics of moving over 300 people with so much ease..God forbid evil..
Na wa o.

But they must have moved all the victims through some villages before making it into the bush. Can't those communities give law enforcement agents necessary info to help them track down the terrorists?

Why do I feel like some of those villagers/members of community are complicit in all of these?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 3:15pm On Nov 22, 2025
NNAMDI KANU’S AVOIDABLE ORDEAL: HOW AMATEUR LEGAL SHOWMEN LED A HIGH-PROFILE CASE INTO A JUDICIAL AMBUSH

WHEN JUSTICE BECAME A PERFORMANCE: THE TRAGIC CONSEQUENCE OF TURNING NNAMDI KANU’S TRIAL INTO CONTENT


I had genuinely intended, out of sheer exhaustion and out of respect for the sensitivity of this moment, to refrain from revisiting this saga. But the avalanche of calls, messages, and trembling voices from our people has made silence no longer an option.

I am therefore compelled to offer sober introspection, especially as someone who successfully steered this very case for nearly a decade, securing landmark victories, unassailable legal milestones, and enduring a long trail of threats, assassination attempts, and brushes with death. Through all of this, Grace remained my only constant protection.

However, after Thursday’s spectacle, correcting the wild conjectures, poorly manufactured narratives, and brazen misinformation now circulating like a digital epidemic has become absolutely necessary.

THE FIRST REVELATION THEY WON’T TELL YOU

During the period our team handled this matter, from 2015 to December 2024, up until Prof. Mike Ozekhome, SAN, assumed leadership of the legal team in 2022; we were on the threshold of securing yet another major relief for Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, particularly after the Court of Appeal discharged and acquitted him in 2022. Sustained pressure, strategic diplomacy, and airtight legal maneuvering had placed us on the verge of another monumental breakthrough.

Regrettably, certain sensitive details of this progress were, perhaps innocently, disclosed by Mazi Nnamdi Kanu to some of these clueless clowns. Rather than support a strategy they barely understood, they seized the information as an opportunity to derail the entire process and treacherously orchestrated a change in the status quo. Consequently, we exited the team, gloriously, and with our integrity intact.

Let us speak plainly:
A high-profile, internationally sensitive criminal trial is not a circus ring.
But once these bloated, delusional entertainers-in-wigs inserted themselves into the process, everything degenerated into a grotesque parody of legal representation.

Instead of crafting legal strategy, they crafted Instagram stories.
Instead of mastering case law, they mastered camera angles.
At every court session, their priority wasn’t research or preparation, it was posing, filming, updating, grandstanding, and “going viral.”

Meanwhile, the accused man’s fate hung by a thread.

THE MOST TRAGIC PART OF IT ALL

Even after the court explicitly warned that self-representation in a complex constitutional and criminal matter was dangerous, these “consultants” encouraged it, clapping like paid spectators in a village arena.

And so the unthinkable happened:
1. A trial that could have been paused, or avoided ab initio, had the proper methodology and engagement been applied.
2. A conviction that could have been prevented.
3. An outcome that was entirely avoidable, yet allowed to proceed under the guidance of legal lightweights intoxicated by social-media relevance.

They railroaded him, knowingly or unknowingly, into the savage pit of a full criminal trial, fully aware that other lawful avenues existed.

Even while the trial was ongoing, they busied themselves with dishing out falsehoods, half-truths, and misleading “updates” to an unsuspecting public.

Every lie told outside the courtroom became a landmine inside the courtroom.
Every exaggerated “update” became a contradiction the prosecution gleefully documented.
Every camera stunt became a professional embarrassment.

And now, instead of remorse, they have resumed their post-trial routine:
fresh videos, fresh lies, fresh false hopes, desperate for clicks.

The tragedy continues because the vulnerable still believe them.

THE GREATEST PUZZLE OF ALL

How did foremost legal minds, globally respected Senior Advocates of Nigeria such as Chief Kanu Agabi, SAN, Chief Onyechi Ikpeazu, SAN, and other erudite members of the Inner Bar; men fully versed in the anatomy of high-wire criminal litigation, become disengaged at the most critical moment of the trial, only for mediocre adventurers to hijack a matter of international significance and reduce it to a TikTok legal carnival?

Who replaces world-class physicians with herbal storytellers during brain surgery?
Who replaces strategic diplomacy with reckless grandstanding?
Who replaces law with theatrics?

Only a system already preparing for disaster.

WHERE WE GO FROM HERE
For any meaningful rescue effort by globally respected legal experts, the first task must be to clean up the monumental damage inflicted by these self-advertising jesters. A comprehensive review of methodology, effective engagement, and drastically reduced publicity must precede any intervention. Only then can a coherent, sophisticated legal and political strategy be fashioned.

This is not the time for comedy.
Not the time for inflated egos.
And certainly not the time for social-media theatrics.

It is time for soberness.
Time for competence.
Time for real advocacy.

#EnoughIsEnough

Signed:
Sir Ifeanyi Ejiofor, Esq. (KSC)
November 22, 2025

Sauce
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:30pm On Nov 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
I agree with him that the handling of security by successive Nigerian govt is a disgrace
Fox news 😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 3:40pm On Nov 22, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Na wa o.

But they must have moved all the victims through some villages before making it into the bush. Can't those communities give law enforcement agents necessary info to help them track down the terrorists?

Why do I feel like some of those villagers/members of community are complicit in all of these?
I think we probably have one of the worst whistleblower policies in the world.. Person fit talk now make these terrorists come carry him family in the next one hour..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Queenslander(f): 3:58pm On Nov 22, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Plus herdsmen, bandits, ipob
Yes they up to that
you mentioned Ipob as a terrorist group,? Well I'm not surprised, after all Ipob is the only terrorist organization in Nigeria. According to the Nigerian government,. The rest are businessmen..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 4:06pm On Nov 22, 2025
Violence always comes home

It was July of 2009 when daring and brutal attacks by Boko Haram terrorist group in Maiduguri made news headlines. I was a sophomore in the University then, and we learnt that it all started from a funeral procession by the group at a checkpoint in Gamboru Gala, Maiduguri. They were stopped by security operatives of the then Operation Flush meant to provide security to the state. The stop was largely routine but the group resisted (I admit that I may never be privy to the full details of what transpired there). Till date there are mixed accounts on who took the first shot between the group and security operatives, but the clash lead to the killíng of some of them and injuring others. The retaliation ordered by their leader lead to the brutal attacks on security installations and government structures in about 4 Northern states. This was the first phase of events to unfold.

The founder of the terrorist organisation, late Muhammad Yusuf, started his activity publicly much earlier in around 2002, renouncing western education as well as the constitution-inclined Nigerian Government. So he had 7 years to preach, recruit and even arm his group (much later) and little was done about them. To be fair, they didn't start with violence, but extremism always has one inevitable end point - violence. The tell tale signs of the group's degeneration into violent confrontations had always been there from the beginning. This was why scholars took it upon themselves to protect people from their misguidance and also warn the government to nip them in the bud. Videos of Sheikh Pantami engaging Muhammad Yusuf in a debate are still out there. Sheikh Ja'far Mahmud Adam and Sheikh Muhammad Auwal Albani Zaria were also among vocal voices to stem the tide of their misguidance spreading. Unfortunately, the latter duo were gruesomely murdéred by the terrorists in 2007 and 2014 respectively.

You will wonder what the government did about them all these while? While you will expect a more proactive response, they (State government) were in fact caught in bed with the group. Mind you, in the early days there was no violence attached to their preaching and it was then sometimes simply referred to as the Yusufiyya movement. In 2003, a certain Governor (and yeah I am being cautious in my choice of words for obvious reasons) made a pact with the group for electoral purposes. If they supported his campaign, he promised to support their cause in various ways, and they did support him. Some reports even show that a member of their group was appointed as a commissioner in his government.

You see, the Nothern elites are one of the biggest reason for the backwardness seen in the North. By Elites here I am largely referring to the politicians and their cronies. Their own style of politics is selfish and self-centered, and they stand the greatest beneficiaries of a large population largely impoverished for it makes it easy for them to perpetuate themselves in Northern politics even if all they do is sprinkle crumbs on the populace. All you have to do is romanticise the people's religious and ethnic sentiments and point at other people as their enemy and you appear like a saviour. I have seen this play out in other regions of the country but the North is the worst hit in my humble opinion. People will rather blame the president for the inactions of their Local Government Chairman or Governor. I will always argue that sentimental attachments are vulnerabilities that make people more prone to indoctrination than a lack of education will. Have we not seen people in the South East support the actions of the so called Unknown Gunmen and even the recently convicted leader of the IPOB group despite irrefutable evidence for masterminding violent crimes? Are they also uneducated? Humans will support evil if it suits their biases and people with violent inclinations find such people and manipulate them. The South West dodged a bullet in swiftly arresting the Igboho agitation, and it is not as if they weren't also bedeviled by sentiments (many did and probably still do support him), the government was swift in response and the south Western elites who seem a little bit more progressive in thought than the other regions supported the FG.

Now you see how this connects back to my story. At a time when the extreme inclinations of a group should have been nipped in the bud, a sitting Governor was in bed with them, using them as political henchmen, making promises even he knew he couldn't keep, only to discard them later. After the Gamboru incident and the ensuing violence across some Northern States, soldiers stepped in to quell the unrest leading to the eventual capture of their leader, Muhammad Yusuf. The soldiers then handed him over to the police who, perhaps out of pain for what he and his followers did to other security operatives, summarily executed him without a trial. Rumours had it that his killing had other undertones, such as to prevent the naming of collaborators, who to this day I believe exist!

The executiòn of Muhammad Yusuf captured in a video that was later circulated, allowed his then deputy, Abubakar Shekau, to assume leadership and create a formal terrorist group that saw themselves at war with the government, partly in retaliation for the killing of their leader, and establishing their extreme Islamic ideologies. This is how we got here!

This post is intended to be a means of education, but I wouldn't end it without making some salient points.

1. Violence almost always consumes first the supporters and sympathisers while the real architects typically are spared because they are usually cautious. While others support it out of sentiments, the main actors do so out of vested interests so they take measures to protect themselves. The then Governor we talked about in this post is still very much around and probably still politically relevant, while the group he once used to attain his political ambitions has metamorphosed into multiple-headed hydra that has eluded all efforts of the Federal Government to quell. Who paid the price the most? Innocent Northerners, a few of whom may have had some sentimental attachment to the group even if in ignorance. Who have suffered the most from the actions of Unknown Gunmen? South Easterners. Be careful when you support and justify violence merely from a sentimental standpoint so you jettison all inclination towards knowledge, wisdom and what is right.

2. Amalgamation of Nigeria was a mistake and the basis for it was purely economics with the British as the sole beneficiaries of that merger with no consideration for our differences. We have struggled since then to keep this fragile unity, but there is too much deception buried underneath. I have traveled through all the regions of this country and I can categorically state that each region is still heavy with ethnic bias against other regions and we see it play out all the time on social media. If we really want to see ourselves as Nigerians we must stop the pretense and embody it. That is why Muslims and Christians will be unfortunate victims of the Boko Haram onslaught but some persons, out of personal sentiments and vested interests, will want to frame this a genocide against a particular religion. A very ridiculous thing to even contemplate.

3. Online, we argue a lot based on ideals, but in the real world it is all about power and who wields it. You can be a terrorist today, but if you win, you might just be regarded as a hero. Don't believe me? Ahmad Al-Sharaa, the current president of Syria was once a leader of Al-Qaeda and a wanted global terrorist, but he eventually captured Syria and he currently aligns with the interest of certain foreign interests. He was recently welcomed with open arms in the Whitè house! My point? If you want to have principles, they should be based on real ideals, not sentiments, and not what the world thinks, because the world is hypocritical, and global politics isn't based on ideals but personal interests. People that support a genocide lack the moral justification to lecture us on what a genocide looks like!

Be careful what you support out of sentiments, it just might consume you!

Abu Imrān
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 4:06pm On Nov 22, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Which English I twist
Ineffective is synonymous to useless true or false
Wellllllllllll
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:07pm On Nov 22, 2025
CrystalTiger:
I think we probably have one of the worst whistleblower policies in the world.. Person fit talk now make these terrorists come carry him family in the next one hour..
This country just dey show signs of something wey Don expire everyday 🤦‍♂️
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 4:08pm On Nov 22, 2025
The Fulanis that are condemning the movie 'The Herd' have supposedly watched it to tell it's not good. They should allow others watch it to confirm.

Reporting it after enjoying the movie is selfish, petty and irresponsible
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:09pm On Nov 22, 2025
Queenslander:
you mentioned Ipob as a terrorist group,? Well I'm not surprised, after all Ipob is the only terrorist organization in Nigeria. According to the Nigerian government,. The rest are businessmen..
Yes I mentioned ipob and bandits as terrorists
Is ipob not a terrorist group?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:10pm On Nov 22, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Maybe u should check what Happened to Obadiah Mailafia in his letter years because he spoke against Miyetti Allah and Boko Haram.
Well Buhari was famous for acting illegally, doesn't mean his template should guide successive governments.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:10pm On Nov 22, 2025
Roland17:
Wellllllllllll
I am waiting for egbon Dayo response grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:19pm On Nov 22, 2025
Yet another nonsense long post trying to deny obvious targeted killings of genocidal proportion that has been happening in the country for a while!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 4:32pm On Nov 22, 2025
With the way Raumdeuter and OasisX were disturbing us about master strategist, one would think he had a plan to tackle insecurity. See the Mattawale he made minister of defence ffs.....

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