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MaxInDHouse:
I don't fall for every wind of information {Ephesians 4:14} so please QUOTE any other verse that says what is written in the last Bible book as warning regarding adding or subtracting the information!🙂

I don't know if you actually consider what you say or you just say them to say them. Revelation was not part of the Bible for centuries. So those people were free to add or subtract from God's word. Old Testament ends with Malachi - so Jews were free to add or subtract. You've been shown various books also say not to add or subtract - so you ignore them and start adding and subtracting because they're not Revelation??
Saying you don't add or subtract is not unique to Revelation! It is infact one of the basic tenets in both Jadaism and Christianity!

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Heaven if they lived in holiness righteousness and truth.

Hell if they lived in sin and disobedience to the word of God.

We4all:
Lol...Your question sounds sarcastic, but I will answer you anyway. Initially, she told me the name of the place which I was able to recall even when I woke up. I didn't memorize it, and I eventually forgot it.

Recently, I haven't bothered asking her where she is again because she seems happier now and have stopped complaining.

So you forgot where your sister is and the name of the place even though sh gave you such vital information?

Lyricalz01:
.when you dream you can feel thirsty too, or feel anyway the physical body can feel in your dreams, that doesn't mean your physical body is there in the Dreamworld, same thing happens in the spiritual world too. The rich man was dead, but he still had memories of his physical life on earth, memories that he still had families here on earth who are still living in sin.

lol....funny man....was the man remembering his past life or he was asking to drink water due to the heat of the fire where he was?

Explain Ecclesiastics 9:5, 6.
Psalms 146:4.

Oga are you saying that hell and grave is the same?
Does not your bible say that God destroys both body and soul in hell, So when did the body start going to hell?


🤣🤣🤣what is the difference between hell and hell fire?
you said people will be cast from hell to lake of fire....so where is "hell fire" in all of this?

GanagiBitrus:
If you have a Death Certificate from a medical doctor & perhaps spent a week in the mortuary before coming back to life, that's enough evidence that can not be disputed.

Yes, but they won’t believe your story because they will say you framed it and for those not around you, they will still find excuses

It's not how far but how well God did not start this work with those people who are arguing over which book should be included or excluded so instead of arguing on what people say i focus on what the books say.
We all know that the apostles of Jesus wrote the last books of the Bible and he actually promised to reveal certain things to apostle John who outlived the rest of the apostles {John 21:22-23} so tell me who wrote any other books after apostle John was given the Revelations and what book is that? Revelations 1:1🙂

DiarisGodoo:
I don't know if you actually consider what you say or you just say them to say them. Revelation was not part of the Bible for centuries. So those people were free to add or subtract from God's word. Old Testament ends with Malachi - so Jews were free to add or subtract. You've been shown various books also say not to add or subtract - so you ignore them and start adding and subtracting because they're not Revelation??
Saying you don't add or subtract is not unique to Revelation! It is infact one of the basic tenets in both Jadaism and Christianity!

@ Truthseeker10

Are you more interested in where I will go than in where you will go?
↓

Are we going to different places?

Look at the world you live in today. Just the earth is filled with many countries and places. Then move out into the galaxy filled with countless solar systems this is just the physical universe. Then you move into the inner planes where people visit temporarily while dreaming.

The mind can not comprehend the immensity of creation. In my father's house there are many mansions as said by Master Jesus captures this. The mansion you will go to is the one that corresponds to your state of consciousness or stage of spiritual growth at the time of translation.

benodic:
@ Truthseeker10






Look at the world you live in today. Just the earth is filled with many countries and places. Then move out into the galaxy filled with countless solar systems this is just the physical universe. Then you move into the inner planes where people visit temporarily while dreaming.

The mind can not comprehend the immensity of creation. In my father's house there are many mansions as said by Master Jesus captures this. The mansion you will go to is the one that corresponds to your state of consciousness or stage of spiritual growth at the time of translation.

Where is this mansion situated?

What realm do people go when they imagine?

Mattswaggz:
If you like quote DJT.... that's your problem...all I know is that you haven't answered the question I put forward and neither did you indicate that I should disclose my stance (which should even be after answering the question) before you'll answer so run along kid and leave talk for matured men...

Do you hear yourself? I should first answer you before you take a stand? So, as I am in war with you, I should shoot first; you my opponent (enemy), it is after that, that you would take a position? And that makes sense to you, abi?

If you are serious you already know that the proper thing is for you to have a position and stance before you enter a debate.

You can't be undecided in a debate. It is either you are standing for something or standing against it. There is no sitting on the fence.

So go and sort out your opinions on all the hearings you have heard, then take a stand on them. It is after that, that you can then come after me.

DiarisGodoo:
So how do you account for people born gay?

So they were born with a stamp bearing "gay" on them, abi?

Some of you hear rubbish and just swallow it waaa, you don't even bother to think on it.

This is even beside the fact that gender which is male and female is what every one is born with naturally.

No one is born gay as gay has got nothing to do with being born but rather, a person's sexual choice!

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you hear yourself? I should first answer you before you take a stand? So, as I am in war with you, I should shoot first; you my opponent (enemy), it is after that, that you would take a position? And that makes sense to you, abi?

If you are serious you already know that the proper thing is for you to have a position and stance before you enter a debate.

You can't be undecided in a debate. It is either you are standing for something or standing against it. There is no sitting on the fence.

So go and sort out your opinions on all the hearings you have heard, then take a stand on them. It is after that, that you can then come after me.

So slow aren't you.....hope this isn't the kind of reasoning u use in running ur life. .

The "Stance" is where is the evidence the person you're talking about presented to make Him and the truth he proclaimed(as you asserted) to be undisputable and different from all the others who also made similar claims?.

Now just this simple question and you've been lamenting, beating about the bush, crying, derailing, finding flimsy excuses for trying to run away and making more false accusations.....You made a claim that what u "PRESENTED" is the truth and when challenged to establish how it is the truth you couldn't which make you a LIAR and DISHONEST person so don't even bother quoting me if you aren't ready to back ur claims/lies because I don't have time to be engaging the type of people that are problematic to the human race and our world as a whole....they thrive on lies and deceit.

When people decides to follow all wind of teachings {Ephesians 4:14} they won't know how to distinguish between right and wrong again. 2Timothy 4:3-4

vdestro:
So they were born with a stamp bearing "gay" on them, abi?

Some of you hear rubbish and just swallow it waaa, you even bother to think on it. The

This is even beside the fact that gender which is male and female is what every one is born with naturally.

No one is born gay as gay has got nothing to do with being born but rather, a person's sexual choice!

Mattswaggz:
..The "Stance" is where is the evidence the person you're talking about presented to make Him and the truth he proclaimed(as you asserted) to be undisputable and different from all the others who also made similar claims?..

See, how silly you are.

The thread shows that I answered you leading the evidence to a known and popular Someone.

Then you raised "others made similar claims", not stating nor standing on whether you believe them or not. For of course if you did not believe them, then it means that you are silly for raising them up in the first place.

Meanwhile, you do not stand stating that you believe and accept their own stories and then the burden will be on me to prove why my own evidence is better than theirs.

So, you see the thread shows you have no stand or stance in this matter and that you are just hanging on the fence with all your unresolved issues.

And since I have been telling you to have a stand, you are running helter skelter blowing grammar and trying to change the argument.

You can't be undecided in a debate. It is either you are standing for something or standing against it. There is no sitting on the fence.

So go and sort out what your opinions and stance shall be on all the hearings you have heard.

Then, you can present your stand on them and after that, t you can come after me. If not it is clear that you are just CROOK who wants me to stand and reveal my position yet, you are running away from entering the ring and revealing yourself like everyone else has done.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, how silly you are.

The thread shows that I answered you leading the evidence to a known and popular Someone.

Then you raised "others made similar claims", not stating nor standing on whether you believe them or not. For of course if you did not believe them, then it means that you are silly for raising them up in the first place.

Meanwhile, you do not stand stating that you believe and accept their own stories and then the burden will be on me to prove why my own evidence is better than theirs.

So, you see the thread shows you have no stand or stance in this matter and that you are just hanging on the fence with all your unresolved issues.

And since I have been telling you to have a stand, you are running helter skelter blowing grammar and trying to change the argument.

You can't be undecided in a debate. It is either you are standing for something or standing against it. There is no sitting on the fence.

So go and sort out what your opinions and stance shall be on all the hearings you have heard.

Then, you can present your stand on them and after that, t you can come after me. If not it is clear that you are just CROOK who wants me to stand and reveal my position yet, you are running away from entering the ring and revealing yourself like everyone else has done.

Chaii...laugh wan kill me.

I just told you that the stance is that I don't believe what you claimed as the truth that's why I asked you for evidence.....so present it and stop beating about the bush.

You claimed you had the truth and I said you're lying which leaves you to present the evidence of how you came to that conclusion in other to vindicate yourself and not to be beating about the bush.

If you had claimed that it's just "ur belief" and not the truth you think I would've bothered quoting you?......Now answer the question or rest!.

Mattswaggz:
Chaii...laugh wan kill me.

I just told you that [b]the stance [/b]is that I don't believe what you claimed as the truth that's why I asked you for evidence.....so present it and stop beating about the bush.

See, "the stance". Not "my stance". So see you don't stand for anything and you don't want to stand for it.

Which is of course proof that you yourself already know that if you stand against me, you would fall and lose, So you are afraid of standing.

So your behaviour in seriously refusing to stand up clearly against me is already one proof and evidence in support of me.

So, proof 1 is already in the bag! 🤣🤣🤣

2) Yes, the thread shows that you did not believe my own report BUT you created more problems by raising and claiming "others made similar claims" and that you have not decided whether they are telling you the Truth or not

And meanwhile, I am not arguing with those "others" but with you who claimed an unresolved "others made similar claims".

So you see, you are the ones problem for if you did not claim that "others made similar claims", I would have responded in any way I deem fit to that stance.

But since you set me up to face "others made similar claims", I cannot proceed because this argument is with those "others...' but with you.

And you have led me on to the others without you taking a stand on them. So now I am interested in your stand on them and it is based on that I can argue.

So go and sort out your stance against those others then after that, you can come after me.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

One of the sure way to know that is to receive information from people that have already passed over to the other side.
And this is possible through the phenomenal of mediumship.

If you're not satisfied with the nonsense notion of heaven and hell as portrayed by religions try studying spiritualists books.

Try this first http://www.ghostcircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Anthony-Borgia-Life-In-The-World-Unseen.pdf

More books are on the site

josielewa:
cAN YOU PROVE THIS OR YOU ARE JUST TALKING AND REGURGITATING WHAT RELIGION TAUGHT YOU. HAVE YOU SEEN ANY MAN GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL...?

Do you know that evidence dey that people don't really die?

MaxInDHouse:
It's not how far but how well God did not start this work with those people who are arguing over which book should be included or excluded so instead of arguing on what people say i focus on what the books say.
We all know that the apostles of Jesus wrote the last books of the Bible and he actually promised to reveal certain things to apostle John who outlived the rest of the apostles {John 21:22-23} so tell me who wrote any other books after apostle John was given the Revelations and what book is that? Revelations 1:1🙂

I was banned so I'll split up my response.

First of all, it is Revelation NOT Revelations!
Secondly you've been shown why and how the Apostle John couldn't have written Revelation (as Christians we fervently wish he did but that'd amount to intellectual dishonesty).

MaxInDHouse:
It's not how far but how well God did not start this work with those people who are arguing over which book should be included or excluded so instead of arguing on what people say i focus on what the books say.
We all know that the apostles of Jesus wrote the last books of the Bible and he actually promised to reveal certain things to apostle John who outlived the rest of the apostles {John 21:22-23} so tell me who wrote any other books after apostle John was given the Revelations and what book is that? Revelations 1:1🙂

Continuing...

Thirdly, there were many other New Testament apocalyptic writings not included in the Bible.
(I'll list some of them in next post - in case that was why I was banned)
They were not canonized for same reasons Revelation wasn't, including authorship concerns and perceived theological issues.

DiarisGodoo:
I was banned so I'll split up my response.
First of all, it is Revelation NOT Revelations!
Secondly you've been shown why and how the Apostle John couldn't have written Revelation (as Christians we fervently wish he did but that'd amount to intellectual dishonesty).

A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John. Revelations 1:1
You don't have to tell me what to believe if you don't agree with the Bible that's your cup of coffee!

Some things are worth thinking about


SCIENCE

Tells us this earth is 4 billion years old

4 billion

Try and imagine that fo about 10 minutes

Now we are told we have been here 300000 years

Since we showed up total estimate for everyone that has ever lived about 120 billion
In the observable universe that astronomers can observe there are Trillions of trillions of planets many bigger that this earth

That is trillions of planets exist for each individual that has ever existed

The scale and size uf the universe should tell you that humans really are insignificant. If we disappeared no one will notice
The idea that a big guy is up there thinking about humans is quite funny

What was happening on earth in the billions of years before we showed up? Many animals existed and disappeared

We too will disappear one day and the sun will still shine

There used to be thousands of elephants in Nigeria. We killed them all

When you can get you mind to comprehend 4 billion years versus 300000 you will understand

We come from nothing and return to nothing


Forget fairy tales

Jman06:
Death doesn't always come with pains , especially if the person had been sick for long. Before that final struggle, most people would have partially lost consciousness and might even be oblivious of what was happening at the time they took the last breath unless they observed from the spirit world

You as an observer can not discern this.

Dtruthspeaker:
The animals fear of dying only rises when you are about to kill it. There is no fear and worry when it is dying naturally.

For man, we all see that he is in great terror, fear and panick as he dies.

And this is not talk about the feeling of oncoming justice we all feel when they are people who have offended us. Exactly how we all feel and know that politicians shall receive their punishments when they die and all the justice we want would be given to us.

And this is in contradiction with people we have seen who are even happy to die and they died with joy and smiles on their faces.

So explain!

It all depends on the type of information you have been fed with during your lifetime. When passing out, the fear of the unknown kicks in. Depending on how fast the end approaches. If very swift, your mind will not have enough time to wander. But if it sets in slowly, your mind will wander with a lot of "what ifs" this will definitely cause terror, and it still boils down to the fear of the unknown.

They don't go anywhere.
Death is an illusion.

Jazzman01:
It all depends on the type of information you have been fed with during your lifetime. When passing out, the fear of the unknown kicks in. Depending on how fast the end approaches. If very swift, your mind will not have enough time to wander. But if it sets in slowly, your mind will wander with a lot of "what ifs" this will definitely cause terror, and it still boils down to the fear of the unknown.

I have been replying you based on information we both saw and now you have changed post, going back to "information you have been fed with;

Further changing post from dying to passing out; passing out which is clearly not the same as dying for a pass out happens so fast that the person passing out does not have time to know that he is passing out, so how can he be afraid?

Your change of Post proves you have no counter to give to the issue, so you are changing post to find if you can reargue it and even at that, the argument still fails for when a person is dying whether slow or fast, we see how the real eyes that they are dying and then we see how they became afraid and how the fear grows till they die.

Truthseeker10:
lol....funny man....was the man remembering his past life or he was asking to drink water due to the heat of the fire where he was?

Explain Ecclesiastics 9:5, 6.
Psalms 146:4.

Oga are you saying that hell and grave is the same?
Does not your bible say that God destroys both body and soul in hell, So when did the body start going to hell?


🤣🤣🤣what is the difference between hell and hell fire?
you said people will be cast from hell to lake of fire....so where is "hell fire" in all of this?

One someone dies the body decays, the earthly body cannot go beyond this world. What did bible actually mean by saying fear God who can destroy both the body and soul in hell is as simple as abc, fear not human and devilish agents who can destroy only the body, but fear God who can destroy both the body and the soul in hell.

Read thesonlonia 4 v 16-17
Research more on the original English meaning of
Hell.
Hell fire is not in existence now, untill after the final judgment, when hell fire will be created to cast the devil and all his followers.

Do your research more on these term,
Do also more research on the difference between hell and hell fire.

Sheol: In the Old Testament, this is the word that is often translated as "hell" but also means "the grave" or "the pit". It can refer to the physical grave or the shadowy realm of the dead.

Hades: In the New Testament, this word is a Greek equivalent to Sheol, often translated as the temporary dwelling place for the dead.

Gehenna: This term refers to the "Valley of Hinnom," a burning rubbish tip outside of Jerusalem that became a symbol for final destruction and judgment in the New Testament.

Truthseeker10:
lol....funny man....was the man remembering his past life or he was asking to drink water due to the heat of the fire where he was?

Explain Ecclesiastics 9:5, 6.
Psalms 146:4.

Oga are you saying that hell and grave is the same?
Does not your bible say that God destroys both body and soul in hell, So when did the body start going to hell?


🤣🤣🤣what is the difference between hell and hell fire?
you said people will be cast from hell to lake of fire....so where is "hell fire" in all of this?

I'm only putting to your knowledge that even at death, when the brain is decayed, the spirit man still have memories, that was why the rich man made a request that his family on earth should be preached to, so they wont die and go to hell also. He still had memories of having family members on earth still living in sin.

MaxInDHouse:
A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John. Revelations 1:1
You don't have to tell me what to believe if you don't agree with the Bible that's your cup of coffee!

(So I was being banned due to the list of apocaliptic writings)
I'm NOT telling you what to believe, just stating FACTS. Example, you still keep writing "Revelations" when it is "Revelation"!
There is church tradition, then there is what scientifically likely happened. Another example, God's mandated day of rest is Saturday but we observe it on Sunday by tradition. It is one thing to do so, it is quite another to start arguing that biblical day of rest is Sunday!

sonmvayina:
They don't go anywhere.
Death is an illusion.

Ok, so how come we don't see or hear them anymore and they stop participating in things?