₦airaland Forum

ariesbull:
Who is assuming? Where did I tell you that North are extreme Muslim

What I said that Yoruba are hybrid and they are not pure Muslims that's why you can't see Yoruba and Hausa pray together in a mosque here in Lagos or Yoruba lead Hausa in prayers ...they see them as not pure Muslims and I have seen it well

Even their Christian..visit babalawo and fetish ...things


That's the fact

I know many of their pastors that do juju ! It's only in yoruba land that a Muslim will marry a Christian .
Which is travesty and madness

Even in Bible it is a sin...Bible said don't be unequally yoked with non believers

Armaggedon:
having multiplicity of religions is not liberalism but tolerating other people with different religious, cultural and economic beliefs. Western civilization invented the word liberalism but their value system is based on Christianity. In fact, you must assimilate "western values" to be accepted.

Yorubas being tolerant is what we often hear but all available data say otherwise. For instance an Igbo gathering will switch to English language just to accommodate few non Igbo speakers but Yorubas will speak their language to the confusion of a considerable number of non Yoruba speakers present. Yet they are the first to feel offended on hearing your own language. This fact is well known and it's the simplest example of intolerance.

Wallade:
Stop lying about the Bible; bible doesn't forbid a Christian from marrying a Muslim, pegan, traditionalist or anyone. The bible only requires that you try to lead them to Christ.

Who are you to judge whether anyone is pure Muslims or Christian? Are you pure yourself? It is the perverted ones like you that see themselves as superior to others.

Don't Igbo Christians go to traditionalists? Don't you igbos do juju as well, don't igbos see Idemmili, amadioha, Anyanwu, Ala and other deities? Everytribe, be you Muslim or Christian, still engage traditionalists.

Don't igbos Christians consult Alfas? If you have not seen it, then keep quiet and stop spewing what you know little about?

The Hausa Muslims who claim to be better practitioners than Yoruba Muslim are confused because it is only God that can judge who is truly following and worshipping him.

Even you that you are talking, you visit traditionalists along with your family and ancestors so what are you saying? Is there no shrine in your ancestral land; your village?

You are trying to deceive us here!

Armaggedon:
unfounded assertions. You're at best consoling yourself. I get the op's point. Igbos can simply be described as Judeo-Christian and Hausa Fulani can be described as Islamic-sahelian. What can Yorubas be described as?

It simply means that Yorubas have no dominant value system. They have major competing value systems which is a time bomb. Value system is like a compass to every civilization and also provide social stability. If you don't have a dominant one, it means the society lack ideology and it'll be difficult for the society to reach a consensus and take decisions on crucial issues. This is why the Yoruba as a collective have no known aspirations unlike the Igbos and Hausa Fulani.Hence, their survival depends on the continued unity of Nigeria because Nigeria act as a stabilizing force for them. This is why they act as spoiler to other people's aspirations that threaten their survival. This was why western Nigeria had heavy precolonial social tension and it's also why they didn't resist colonialism unlike Igbos and Hausa Fulani. They needed a stabilizing force to fill the void that a lack of value system created.

Armaggedon:
unfounded assertions. You're at best consoling yourself. I get the op's point. Igbos can simply be described as Judeo-Christian and Hausa Fulani can be described as Islamic-sahelian. What can Yorubas be described as?

It simply means that Yorubas have no dominant value system. They have major competing value systems which is a time bomb. Value system is like a compass to every civilization and also provide social stability. If you don't have a dominant one, it means the society lack ideology and it'll be difficult for the society to reach a consensus and take decisions on crucial issues. This is why the Yoruba as a collective have no known aspirations unlike the Igbos and Hausa Fulani.Hence, their survival depends on the continued unity of Nigeria because Nigeria act as a stabilizing force for them. This is why they act as spoiler to other people's aspirations that threaten their survival. This was why western Nigeria had heavy precolonial social tension and it's also why they didn't resist colonialism unlike Igbos and Hausa Fulani. They needed a stabilizing force to fill the void that a lack of value system created.

ariesbull:
Blablabla.

It doesn't stop the reality

Wallade:
You are just a "Pot calling Kettle black"?

Look at yourself in the mirror and see deception, hatred and tribalism in-personified

ariesbull:
Who is assuming? Where did I tell you that North are extreme Muslim

What I said that Yoruba are hybrid and

they are not pure Muslims

that's why you can't see Yoruba and Hausa pray together in a mosque here in Lagos or Yoruba lead Hausa in prayers ...they see them as not pure Muslims and I have seen it well

Even their Christian..visit babalawo and fetish ...things


That's the fact

I know many of their pastors that do juju ! It's only in yoruba land that a Muslim will marry a Christian .
Which is travesty and madness

Even in Bible it is a sin...Bible said don't be unequally yoked with non believers

ariesbull:
blablabla

It doesn't stop the world seeing it the way it is

Wallade:
Yes, we see you for who you are - Chest beaters with superiority complex.

Empty barrels make the loudest noises.

We are already used to your activities, behavior and attitude.

WizardOfNG:
Indeed. The guys is just repellent. Imagine trying to say a guy who does not beat or force himself on women is not a "pure man"?

What could be more dark and malevolently evil than claiming Yoruba Muslims are not "pure Muslims" because they are not murderously extremist like Boko Haram, ISWAP etal?

Some of the people we discuss with here are very troubled mentally. It is something Nigerians should worry about because such is the reason we have so much going against our nation today.

ariesbull:
My neighbour is a serious Yoruba Muslim, she fasts and wears hijab...but just last week I saw her going to see a pastor for prayers

Personally...I don't them serious ! They are neither here nor there

That's why Hausa folks don't take their Muslims serious also the same way SE don't take their Christians serious ....

ariesbull:
Who is assuming? Where did I tell you that North are extreme Muslim

What I said that Yoruba are hybrid and they are not pure Muslims that's why you can't see Yoruba and Hausa pray together in a mosque here in Lagos or Yoruba lead Hausa in prayers ...they see them as not pure Muslims and I have seen it well

Even their Christian..visit babalawo and fetish ...things


That's the fact

I know many of their pastors that do juju ! It's only in yoruba land that a Muslim will marry a Christian .
Which is travesty and madness

Even in Bible it is a sin...Bible said don't be unequally yoked with non believers

Armaggedon:
having multiplicity of religions is not liberalism but tolerating other people with different religious, cultural and economic beliefs. Western civilization invented the word liberalism but their value system is based on Christianity. In fact, you must assimilate "western values" to be accepted.

Yorubas being tolerant is what we often hear but all available data say otherwise. For instance an Igbo gathering will switch to English language just to accommodate few non Igbo speakers but Yorubas will speak their language to the confusion of a considerable number of non Yoruba speakers present. Yet they are the first to feel offended on hearing your own language. This fact is well known and it's the simplest example of intolerance.

Wallade:
Honestly, I strongly agree with this your opinion that I highlighted.

"Some of the people we discuss with here are very troubled mentally."

ariesbull:
My neighbour is a serious Yoruba Muslim, she fasts and wears hijab...but just last week I saw her going to see a pastor for prayers

Personally...I don't them serious ! They are neither here nor there

That's why Hausa folks don't take their Muslims serious also the same way SE don't take their Christians serious ....

Putinofrussia:
The truth is that Yorubas have the parlance of live and let live.
They have the most vibrant Christians and Muslims with the belief that your belief does not affect mine or stop me from attaining paradise and vice versa.
They have learnt to live together amicably through the Grace of God.

The problem of Nigeria are Hausa Fulani and Igbos who are extremists.There are a lot of Muslims in Edo but they don't discriminate.

ariesbull:
blablabla

It doesn't stop the world seeing it the way it is

DomPerignon:
Yorubas are a liberal bunch but one who revere their own culture above everything so much so that Yoruba Christians created a sect that panders to their spiritualism in the form of the Afro Spiritual Celestial church.

98% of Yoruba Muslims don't care much for Islam .

The fanatical Yorubas are mostly from Kwara and Osun who have always wanted to impose themselves as rulers in Yoruba land under Islamic theorocracy .

ariesbull:
My neighbour is a serious Yoruba Muslim, she fasts and wears hijab...but just last week I saw her going to see a pastor for prayers

Personally...I don't them serious ! They are neither here nor there

That's why Hausa folks don't take their Muslims serious also the same way SE don't take their Christians serious ....

ariesbull:
Who is assuming? Where did I tell you that North are extreme Muslim

What I said that Yoruba are hybrid and they are not pure Muslims that's why you can't see Yoruba and Hausa pray together in a mosque here in Lagos or Yoruba lead Hausa in prayers ...they see them as not pure Muslims and I have seen it well

Even their Christian..visit babalawo and fetish ...things


That's the fact

I know many of their pastors that do juju ! It's only in yoruba land that a Muslim will marry a Christian .
Which is travesty and madness

Even in Bible it is a sin...Bible said don't be unequally yoked with non believers

Armaggedon:
having multiplicity of religions is not liberalism but tolerating other people with different religious, cultural and economic beliefs. Western civilization invented the word liberalism but their value system is based on Christianity. In fact, you must assimilate "western values" to be accepted.

Yorubas being tolerant is what we often hear but all available data say otherwise. For instance an Igbo gathering will switch to English language just to accommodate few non Igbo speakers but Yorubas will speak their language to the confusion of a considerable number of non Yoruba speakers present. Yet they are the first to feel offended on hearing your own language. This fact is well known and it's the simplest example of intolerance.

ariesbull:
Who is assuming? Where did I tell you that North are extreme Muslim

What I said that Yoruba are hybrid and they are not pure Muslims that's why you can't see Yoruba and Hausa pray together in a mosque here in Lagos or Yoruba lead Hausa in prayers ...they see them as not pure Muslims and I have seen it well

Even their Christian..visit babalawo and fetish ...things


That's the fact

I know many of their pastors that do juju ! It's only in yoruba land that a Muslim will marry a Christian .
Which is travesty and madness

Even in Bible it is a sin...Bible said don't be unequally yoked with non believers

hafeeanubasy:
Who are you to determine who is a pure Muslim

ariesbull:
That is what the NORTH say about the Yoruba Muslim