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Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Tayorshd87(m): 6:18pm On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So you now agree that the soil wasn't a living thing until God breathe into it shey?
All you people need is HUMILITY!🤔
Sure I agree 💯
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26pm On Nov 26, 2025
Tayorshd87:
Sure I agree 💯
The long discussion surely worths it.
All the creatures on planet earth are dust {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} until God breathe into them so once the breathe no longer runs in their lungs they start decaying and back to dust they goes! Ecclesiastes 12:7
God bless you and may you have peace!
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Tayorshd87(m): 8:37pm On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The long discussion surely worths it.
All the creatures on planet earth are dust {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} until God breathe into them so once the breathe no longer runs in their lungs they start decaying and back to dust they goes! Ecclesiastes 12:7
God bless you and may you have peace!
Amen 🙌
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 11:16pm On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Now you are talking!🙂

The inhabitants of Canaan were burning babies in fire as sacrifice to Molech {Leviticus 18:21; Deuteronomy 12:31} this is what Satan initiated in the garden of Eden making humans to believe that they can live like God doing whatever they wish to their yet unborn generation Satan knew this will taunt the Creator {Genesis 6:6} who made humans and gave them the authority over all other creatures on planet earth! Genesis 1:26-28
This act is what makes God to send His worshipers to exterminate Canaanites and occupy that place.

They were worshiping Molech burning their babies in fire and for centuries none of them thought of ending this evil rather they continue practicing it thinking Molech is blessing them.

So to prove that Molech is nothing but a demon God issued a warning to all the inhabitants of Canaan through what He did to the world's most powerful nation back then (Egypt) which Canaanites themselves feared but instead of them to flee knowing that another God who is higher than all the Gods of Egypt is coming with His worshipers Canaanites decided to fight.

Check the screenshot below or search on Wikipedia for (Worship of Molech in ancient Canaan) the idol in the screenshot extending its hand will not collect the babies but the child will fall into it's bosom in which fire keeps burning by the priests of Molech.

Now judge for yourself. Do you think such evil people deserve to continue existing back then?🙂
It is false to say the people of Og worshipped Molech or burned babies, because nothing in Scripture links them to such acts. What is even more troubling is the contradiction in the story itself. God is said to have destroyed nations for sacrificing children to a demon, yet the same God later offers His own Son as a sacrifice to Himself. If killing a child in worship is evil when others do it, how does it become holy when God does it?

You also have to ask if destruction was really the best way to deal with people who worshipped other gods. Israel itself constantly turned to strange gods and idols, but God did not wipe them out each time. He warned them, punished them, forgave them, and allowed them to continue. So why were other communities destroyed completely for what Israel also did many times? The standard is not consistent.
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 11:23pm On Nov 26, 2025
@MaxinDHouse


If child killing is evil, then how do we explain the deaths of babies in Sodom and Gomorrah, or the children among the Midianites, who had done nothing? These stories show judgment falling not only on guilty adults but on infants who had no agency, no choices, and no “sins” of their own. If the Creator is loving and just, why is the repeated solution the destruction of children?

It should trouble anyone who claims to value life that divine punishment so often targets the most innocent, and pretending that this is moral simply because it is written in a holy book does not make it right.



The point is simple: when I speak as a human being with human feelings, you respond like something programmed to ignore that conscience. You failed the Litmus test because you justify the killing of babies and pillaging of others once the command is attributed to God, even though if any human being did the same thing to your own child, you would never accept it as divine.

That double standard is exactly why Christianity collapses under its own weight: it demands that people silence their moral instinct whenever Scripture contradicts it, and in doing so, it turns believers into something less than human.

Any faith that requires you to suspend your conscience in order to defend cruelty is not truth.

It is conditioning.
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 11:30pm On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
@ Roycemadeit
Have you seen now that there is more to what you read in the Bible?

We believers in the Bible God did a lot of investigations before we concluded that He is the one and only true God!🙂

This is precisely why you would never know but remain believers
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:31pm On Nov 26, 2025
Roycemadeit:
@MaxinDHouse


If child killing is evil, then how do we explain the deaths of babies in Sodom and Gomorrah, or the children among the Midianites, who had done nothing? These stories show judgment falling not only on guilty adults but on infants who had no agency, no choices, and no “sins” of their own. If the Creator is loving and just, why is the repeated solution the destruction of children?

It should trouble anyone who claims to value life that divine punishment so often targets the most innocent, and pretending that this is moral simply because it is written in a holy book does not make it right.



The point is simple: when I speak as a human being with human feelings, you respond like something programmed to ignore that conscience. You failed the Litmus test because you justify the killing of babies and pillaging of others once the command is attributed to God, even though if any human being did the same thing to your own child, you would never accept it as divine.

That double standard is exactly why Christianity collapses under its own weight: it demands that people silence their moral instinct whenever Scripture contradicts it, and in doing so, it turns believers into something less than human.

Any faith that requires you to suspend your conscience in order to defend cruelty is not truth.

It is conditioning.
Like you would tell Nigerian army to ki... only the adult bandits but leave their babies.

Of which, ki... Is just the act of sending a person back to God to re-judge the matter.

Which is why you see, that from Adam and Cain, no one has been judged yet and that is the essence of death, hell and laake containing fire
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m):
Roycemadeit:
If killing a child in worship is evil when others do it, how does it become holy when God does it?
The people were seeking wealth and fame from demons that's why they keep on sacrificing babies to Molech.
God sacrificed His own son to save the descendants of Adam and remember that the one sacrificed came by his own freewill because he loved mankind on the other hand the innocent babies don't know what is happening or why they are been killed. smiley
Roycemadeit:
You also have to ask if destruction was really the best way to deal with people who worshipped other gods. Israel itself constantly turned to strange gods and idols, but God did not wipe them out each time. He warned them, punished them, forgave them, and allowed them to continue. So why were other communities destroyed completely for what Israel also did many times? The standard is not consistent.
The Israelites later became worshipers of the same Molech and God wiped out that generation by allowing pagan nations to destroy them He didn't totally exterminate Israel because the major reason why He chose the nation was to bring forth the Messiah (Christ) who will pay the ransom to save mankind so until that is done God keeps preserving a remnant among the Israelites.
Remember that there were twelve tribes before ten were discarded so that only two remained. So God did justice to that if you diligently study the Bible. smiley
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m):
Roycemadeit:
@MaxinDHouse
If child killing is evil, then how do we explain the deaths of babies in Sodom and Gomorrah, or the children among the Midianites, who had done nothing?
The killing has a totally different motive because they were using them as sacrifice to Molech. As regards Sodom and Gomorrah the children has been taught to become homosexuals so there is no way to separate them from among the adults who birthed them.
Note that despite the deplorable state of the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah Lot (Abraham's cousin) was different which means they had someone among them who doesn't practice it with his two daughters who were virgins.
Midianites used their girls to lure the Israelites into idolatry that's why God told the Israelites to only kill those who have tasted sex among their females but save the little virgins.
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:44am On Nov 27, 2025
Roycemadeit:
This is precisely why you would never know but remain believers
We became believers in the Bible God as we see all His promises regarding our salvation coming through gradually!🙂
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:48am On Nov 27, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The people were seeking wealth and fame from demons that's why they keep on sacrificing babies to Molech.
God sacrificed His own son to save the descendants of Adam and remember that the one sacrificed came by his own freewill because he loved mankind on the other hand the innocent babies don't know what is happening or why they are been killed. smiley

The Israelites later became worshipers of the same Molech and God wiped out that generation by allowing pagan nations to destroy them He didn't totally exterminate Israel because the major reason why He chose the nation was to bring forth the Messiah (Christ) who will pay the ransom to save mankind so until that is done God keeps preserving a remnant among the Israelites.
Remember that there were twelve tribes before ten were discarded so that only two remained. So God did justice to that if you diligently study the Bible. smiley
I am sorry you had to be conditioned this way.
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:49am On Nov 27, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
We became believers in the Bible God as we see all His promises regarding our salvation coming through gradually!🙂
I agree... Illusion is better than Reality
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53am On Nov 27, 2025
It's better you surrender on this because i never approach you with the message of salvation rather you quoted me out of anxiety thinking you have something better to offer.
As for the person i purposely engaged we have agreed so you can go and do whatever you wish with your Unbelief!🙂

Roycemadeit:
I am sorry you had to be conditioned this way.
Roycemadeit:
I agree... Illusion is better than Reality
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:59am On Nov 27, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
It's better you surrender on this because i never approach you with the message of salvation rather you quoted me out of anxiety thinking you have something better to offer.
As for the person i purposely engaged we have agreed so you can go and do whatever you wish with your Unbelief!🙂
Not my unbelief grin... It's my knowingness
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:08am On Nov 27, 2025
Roycemadeit:
Not my unbelief grin... It's my knowingness
Knowingness is not condemning things around you it's presenting what is better so those you feel knows little can compare for themselves but in your case you have nothing to share.
Meanwhile i've taught you how to know the difference between real faith and credulity.
Those having real faith will silence you just as i've done! Isaiah 54:17 wink
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:20am On Nov 27, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Knowingness is not condemning things around you it's presenting what is better so those you feel knows little can compare for themselves but in your case you have nothing to share.
Meanwhile i've taught you how to know the difference between real faith and credulity.
Those having real faith will silence you just as i've done! Isaiah 54:17 wink
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Truthseeker10: 8:32am On Nov 27, 2025
Roycemadeit:
Kindly share the ultimate standard
I clearly told you that I don't know.....are you also ignorant?
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m):
Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...
Now you are making sense!🙂

FAITH according to the Bible is defined as the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

So faith is not seeing God or angels with your literal eyes rather it means seeing things the invisible God promised as the events are unfolding with evidence.

Nobody cares about any God it's what our ancestors said that shapened our thinking regarding the supernatural that is why we need vivid proof of the existence of this so called supernaturals.

On the other hand a God from far away Israel did so many things in the past which we can only read in the Bible but one thing that moves us is how this God spoke so extensively about the things He will later do!😟

He promised to use His active force (Holy Spirit) to gather faithful people in all the nations and make them form a global family of peace loving worshipers using His word as ultimate standard among themselves {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} what really baffles me mostly is how this God perfectly predicted what all the nations will be doing at that particular time when He is gathering faithful people. He said all the nations of the earth will be engaged in production of weapons to fight and kill one another {Revelations 6:3-4} but at the same time His holy spirit will be gathering faithful people out of all these nations and they will not participate in the production, buying, selling or usage of weapons rather they will vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

Ọmọ with that happening today it's really difficult to say that particular God is not the Maker as in Creator of the whole universe! Genesis 1:1🙂
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by tctrills: 8:58am On Nov 27, 2025
Roycemadeit:
@MaxinDHouse


If child killing is evil, then how do we explain the deaths of babies in Sodom and Gomorrah, or the children among the Midianites, who had done nothing? These stories show judgment falling not only on guilty adults but on infants who had no agency, no choices, and no “sins” of their own. If the Creator is loving and just, why is the repeated solution the destruction of children?

It should trouble anyone who claims to value life that divine punishment so often targets the most innocent, and pretending that this is moral simply because it is written in a holy book does not make it right.



The point is simple: when I speak as a human being with human feelings, you respond like something programmed to ignore that conscience. You failed the Litmus test because you justify the killing of babies and pillaging of others once the command is attributed to God, even though if any human being did the same thing to your own child, you would never accept it as divine.

That double standard is exactly why Christianity collapses under its own weight: it demands that people silence their moral instinct whenever Scripture contradicts it, and in doing so, it turns believers into something less than human.

Any faith that requires you to suspend your conscience in order to defend cruelty is not truth.

It is conditioning.
Sorry, I am crashing into this discussion without following from the start
There is something you are missing. God is the giver of life. He has the right to take life. You and I don't have that same right because we don't own life. So it is not a double standard.

A simple illustration,
If I plant a garden, I have the right to harvest any fruit from my garden. You do not have the same right, and it would be wrong for you to accuse me of a double standard when I pluck my oranges and prevent you from doing the same.

Again, the journey of the human soul doesn't end at death, and every soul would again be resurrected. That's all the more reason why you can't question when God takes a soul. He can and will bring it back again, but you and I can't, so why should we kill?

God created human life, let Him decide the destiny of each soul, not you, non I. And it is not a double standard.
Re: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:59am On Nov 27, 2025
@ Roycemadeit
I know that at this moment you may be thinking which organization i belong to that has equipped members with this efficacy?
Well i am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
So if you want to know more about this organization of competent and equipped Bible scholars feel free to welcome a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'm really sorry if my comments makes you feel bad but it's the truth that's why you agreed that there is FACT in what i'm saying:
Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness.
Thanks for your time!🙂
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