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| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by Ttalk: 4:08pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
brain54:You are not making sense. There's no guarantee that being together will ever make Nigeria prosper regardless f who rule. Our best bet is outright dissolution. The killing and hate is too much |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by brain54(m): 4:13pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
Ttalk:Is there a guarantee that things will magically get better when there is a division...? |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by stanluiz(m): 4:15pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
brain54:Division will make solving our problem easier. Nigeria is country of many nations. |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by aswani(m): 4:22pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
arewafederation:Because he is an Obidient, you must remember they don't play by the same logical rules that the rest of us do. Remember that then pity their parents and family. |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by brain54(m): 4:28pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
stanluiz:Short cuts isn't always the best route... And sometimes can create more problems than solutions. Division doesn't magically disappear all the problems. The problems won't go away just because they is a division! |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by T9ksy(m): 4:36pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
brain54:Someone asked you (earlier) if you are willing to jettison your ethnic identify to adopt a Nigerian identity . A simple Yes/No question but re- read your response above and tell me how you have answered a straight enquiry? I, and i believe, am not in the minority, have no desire or inclination to drop my yoruba identity for nigeria. That's all i know (my yoruba identity) since from birth and it has stood me in good steed, over the years. How the hell, am i supposed to drop that (id) for a nigerian identity that i know sweet fxx.xx all, about? Btw, what's nigerian value system? Nigerian culture, pratices, spirituality, cuisine, history, worldview ati bebelo? Maybe, you don't care about your ethnic identity but there are many "nigetians" who are very patrotic about their ethnic nationality and are not ready to drop it. As per your able-leadership idea - omo, una go wait tire o! After 65 years of co-exitence, we have not been able to produce that able leadership, you suggested. Are you saying we should wait for another 65 years to find that strong leader that will "unite" us, however, in the interim, fulanis are slaughtering everybody else in the coutry, for sport but sadly, there seems to be no way of stopping them. I will hate to imagine, how many of us will be left with the rate of killings, extantly, in 20 years. |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by chiagozien(m): 4:50pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
brain54:You can never get good leadership in Nigeria, that how it's structured. As for your question,it boils down to the structure called Nigeria. Until Nigeria divide, you will keep getting that set of leaders. The reason I told you earlier that leadership is not Nigeria main problem,We don't share common value system is the main problem. Good Leadership where if you criticize the leader,his tribe men will see it as attack to their tribe. They will defend him even when he is wrong. A country where there can't be revolution and the leader are comfortably doing what they like because no fear. A country where common protest against police brutality (ENDSARS) was given a tribal tag, and Igbos blamed. A country where military Men will organize a coup it will be tagged Igbo coup because the person that lead it is from Igbo(Asaba Delta State) But other coups by Nigeria military were not given any tribal tag. Don't go the area of governors, They have the protection of your Nigeria federal government, and his people can't challenge him,if they do,he will simply go to Abuja and they will give him hundreds of soldiers. A Nigeria if you vex and decide to remove the underperforming governor, Your federal government and INEC will be there to decide. Until Nigeria is divide,it will keep getting worst. Do you think if Yoruba have a separate country, that they will be defending Tinubu even when he's not performing well? Do you think if North have a separate country, that they will vote buhari second time to destroy the country to the level he did? Answer the above question if you are replying. |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by brain54(m): 5:21pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
T9ksy:I didn't see any such question directed at me... If it was somewhere maybe I missed it. I'm talking about the ethnicity question of I am willing to give it up. So here is my answer even though I don't know the context in which it was asked but if you put it as straightforward question as that then yes I would. I see a bigger picture and not small ideas. It's people like you not ready to give up your individualism or ethnicity that constitute part of the problem. The truth and my argument is that even if they is a division of the country people like you with the same mindset will look for further reasons yet to further break into smaller units or family units until you eventually would have to leave in isolation. No one is asking you to give up your ethnic nationality by the way to form a bigger and better union that would become even more advantageous. That's where people like you get it wrong. They would always be people different from you in beliefs, cultures and every other way you can think of. The idea is just to find a common ground to live with them tolerantly. Think similarities rather than differences as they say they is unity in diversity! |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by brain54(m): 5:33pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
chiagozien:It takes only one sincere person to restructure the system... You keep talking about value system and I don't argue about that it's necessary ingredient to unite all but value system don't fall from heaven. It's created. Tell me the value system of the hausas, igbos and Yorubas that sepretes all of us from each other that would guarantee a better unit of smaller ethnic nations if divided? Or we would need to find and create it when the time comes? Problems are inevitable in life there is no utopia anywhere that's when patriots step in to solve those problems. When you divide and go separate ways when other problems start arrising will you break up further to smaller units or stand up to solve them or you keep breaking up. Problems don't solve themselves by running away from them. Rather it seems like a cowardly thing to do. The core of our problems like I insist is leadership and we would keep having same issues without solving it whether you break the country up to smaller individual family units as countries or not! |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by chiagozien(m): 5:41pm On Nov 19, 2025 |
brain54:All this defending of failed state called one Nigeria is because you people see it that you can't stand alone as a country. But there are people ready to take their stand and build country of their dream. Your forefathers were living fine before a white man said you, you and you are now Nigeria. |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by T9ksy(m): 10:01am On Nov 20, 2025 |
brain54:The Lord created me, as a yoruba man. If he had wanted me to be a Nigerian,he surely havr fone so. Btw, what's your ethnicity? It can be much if you are so willing to let go of iy for a "nigrrian |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by brain54(m): 10:08am On Nov 20, 2025 |
T9ksy:Lol... I honestly feel pity the way some of you reason. I'm sorry to say that and don't mean any insult! |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by T9ksy(m): 2:11pm On Nov 21, 2025 |
brain54:Am sure, you know where to stick your unsolicited "pity". |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by brain54(m): 2:13pm On Nov 21, 2025 |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by Fenrir(m): 9:21am On Nov 28, 2025 |
You keep repeating that Nigeria should break up because we do not like each other, do not think alike, and do not share the same values. But your reasoning collapses the moment you compare Nigeria to Europe. European nations emerged after centuries of shared identity, language, and consolidated kingdoms fighting for their people, not running from responsibility. Nigeria has existed for barely sixty four years as a unified state. Unity requires time, institutions, and accountability, not instant emotional harmony. Your argument assumes division magically solves anything. It does not. Nigeria’s problems are not geographical. They are behavioural. You say homogenous nations develop faster. That can be true when the people have a functional social contract. Nigeria does not lack homogeneity. It lacks honesty. Even within individual tribes there is nepotism over competence, lies over responsibility and personal gain over community interest. This is not an insult. It is a reality you yourself have admitted multiple times. These traits exist in the majority, though certainly not in all Nigerians. If you divide Nigeria into many new countries those same behaviours will simply operate on a smaller scale. You will not produce progress. You will merely produce smaller nations with the same mentality and the same chaos. Only the flags will be different. You mention Sharia, Igbo freedom and Yoruba suspicion, but you ignore the fact that every group uses identity only when it benefits them. Tribalism here is not a value system. It is a tool used to avoid accountability. If division alone guaranteed development, Somalia would be Switzerland by now. Your reasoning confuses separation with competence. Nothing in your argument explains how Nigerians will suddenly obey laws, respect institutions or build credible systems the moment new borders appear. You have changed geography, not mindset. Europe did not progress because they split into tribes. They progressed because they enforced laws, punished corruption and built systems that were stronger than personal emotions. Nigeria refuses to do these things. That is the real issue, not the size of the country. You ask why Nigeria should be one. Here is the counter question. Why should anyone believe smaller Nigerian states will behave differently when the same majority mentality still exists, the mentality that chooses self interest over collective responsibility. Until accountability replaces excuses, Nigeria divided is simply Nigeria duplicated. Mrvitalis, you called me fake. Every time the discussion becomes deeper than your comfort level, you either go silent or throw accusations and disappear. Enough of that. Make the video call. We both show our faces and credentials, record the conversation and post it here. Or remain quiet like the little boy who hides behind words he cannot defend. Your move. |
| Re: Can You Give Reason Why Nigeria Should Be One by aswani(m): 9:07am On Nov 29, 2025 |
Fenrir:Great post, you have captured it all even though it is wasted on that poster though as they came here with and agenda which is not to assimilate anything. Just to hop on to what you said about homogeneous nations. Let's assume Yorùbá's wanted their own nation for this homogeneous utopia and they get it. When will the bearing drums of the different sub - tribes start again. Look at Ogun State, every governorship cycle, Yewa, Ẹgba, Ìjẹ̀bú and Rẹmọ are crying that it's their turn. Awori haven't said pim yet ó. These people speak the same Yoruba. Balkanise that and have a Federal Republic of Ẹ̀gbáland, it is then you will know Òwu and Ake are different. Same with Federal Republic of Rẹmọ, it is then you will know Shagamu and Ikenne are different people. Ditto Edo state, Benin, Esan and Afemai are different. Even in Edo south, Oredo, Ovia, Orhiọnwọn and Uhumwonde (based loosely around LG names to start with, I could have gone by towns) can claim marginalisation when Ivb'edo get Benin state. Of course we all know Ndigbo have those subgroups too, the point bring to support yours about the fallacy of homogeneous nations when the behaviour is the same. |
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