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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky:
blueAgent:
You are really confused.
The Bible verse said although Jesus was in FORM of GOD, meaning he had the nature,image,glory, of GOD he never made himself equal to GOD.

The Bible verse never said JESUS was equal to GOD


This is my last response to you, You appear to be mischievous.
Please teach Emusan.
Phil 2:5-6 never said his false claim of equality .
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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 6:15am On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
[/b]Continue deceiving yourself making false claims.

God beget Adam his son.
God begets spirit beings and human beings .
Jesus is his only begotten son,his Firstborn creature.
Adam is not Gods only begotten son.
Oga, stop your deliberate mix up to deceive yourself.
Stop acting movies here. No bible verse says God begot Adam, you invented that. Just as no bible verse says God begot you nor I.
Why are you very manipulative?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 6:17am On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
Job 31;15
"Did not the One who made me in the womb also make them? Did not the same God form us both in the womb?"

Job confirmed that God begeted him in his mother's womb.

Tctrills deceiving himself, did God beget Adam?
Tctrills, Psalm 139:13-16, Psalm 22:9-10, did God beget you?

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So your point here is that Jesus Christ is not the only begotten Son, John lied according to you since everyone is a begotten Son of God. Ok, no problem
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by orisa37: 6:21am On Nov 30, 2025
HE IS JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE PROPITIATION FOR OUR SINS.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 6:23am On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
Isaac is the only begotten son of Sarah & Abraham, Hebrew 11:1-19

Isaac is their firstborn , you go wail & continue WAILING
Luke 7:12,that young man is the only begotten son of his mother
He is her first born son, no capping.
Stop confusing yourself. Yes Isaac is clearly the first and only child between Sarah and Abraham explain how that comes into the discussion.
Again the bible states that's woman has one child oga what is your point here? Are you saying that because this woman had only one child, that is some how important to this discussion because?
Abraham and Sarah had one child, A certain woman had one child, therefore, according to jw, Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and at the same time, He isn't. If you don't see that your doctrine is senseless, I can't help you anymore.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 6:27am On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
Oga, STOP Deceiving yourself and LYING.

Jesus is only begotten (ONLY BORN) son of God. John 3:16 evidence.

Jesus won't be only begotten son if he's not begeted (begeted meaning born/created ) by God.
Therefore,Jesus is the first creature created by God that is why Jesus is the only begotten Son.

Adam is son of God ,begotten (created) by God.
God begets Adam,Yahweh is the Father of Adam & all creatures.

Only begotten Son & begotten are two DISTINCT teachings in the holy Bible.

Adam is NOT only begotten son,your Bible did not say that.
Tctrills , stop merging the two distinct teachings to deceive yourself.
Oga are you having a mental break down? You are making the argument that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God and at the same time, opposing the argument. Your argument lacks sense. What is your aim here.
You talk about 2 distinct teachings,
One Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God
Two Jesus Christ is not the only begotten Son of God because everyone is.
Are you ok?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by orisa37: 6:28am On Nov 30, 2025
HE IS JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE PROPITIATION FOR OUR SINS.

POPE LEO JUST GAVE A NEW DESCRIPTION OF JESUS IN HIS CURRENT VISIT IN ISTANBUL.
ALLELUIA!!!
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:14pm On Nov 30, 2025
tctrills:
Oga are you having a mental break down?
Perhaps,you have it.
I don't have any issue of that sort .
Hebrew5:5, Jesus is begotten by his Father,Yahweh.
John 3:16, Jesus is also only begotten.
Tctrills have issues with both teachings .
Oga,continue WAILING .
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:19pm On Nov 30, 2025
tctrills:
Oga are you having a mental break down? You are making the argument that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God and at the same time, opposing the argument. Your argument lacks sense. What is your aim here.

You talk about two distinct teachings .
One Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God
Two Jesus Christ is not the only begotten Son of God because everyone is.
Are you ok?
Tctrills is opposing Hebrew 5:5.
John 3:16 is not Hebrew 5:5.
You have issues & living in denial of Hebrew 5:5.
You forget that Hebrew 5:5 copied Psalm 2:7 proof that God begets David., nah your Bible talk am.
Oga, continue WAILING & deceiving yourself.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
Perhaps,you have it.
I don't have any issue of that sort .
Hebrew5:5, Jesus is begotten by his Father,Yahweh.
John 3:16, Jesus is also only begotten.
Tctrills have issues with both teachings .
Oga,continue WAILING .
Oga please seek help , you are the very same person that write the following .
God beget Adam his son.
God begets spirit beings and human beings .
Jesus is his only begotten son,his Firstborn creature.
Adam is not Gods only begotten son.
Oga, stop your deliberate mix up to deceive yourself.


From your own words what do we deduce
1. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God
2. God begot billions of other children hence Jesus Christ is not the only begotten Son of God.
Sorry to say,your words and counter words are like getting into the head of a mad man.
It is frustrating.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:32pm On Nov 30, 2025
tctrills:
Oga please seek help , you are the very same person that write the following .
God beget Adam his son.
God begets spirit beings and human beings .
Jesus is his only begotten son,his Firstborn creature.
Adam is not Gods only begotten son.
Oga, stop your deliberate mix up to deceive yourself.


From your own words what do we deduce
1. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God
2. God begot billions of other children hence Jesus Christ is not the only begotten Son of God.
Sorry to say,your words and counter words are like getting into the head of a mad man.
It is frustrating.
Tctrills opinion: Jesus is not the only begotten son of God
Hebrew 11:17-19, is Isaac the only begotten son of A raham?
Yes.

Tctrills, does Hebrew 11:17-19 say or mean that Abraham did not beget other sons ?

Tctrills, did John 3:16 mean that God did not beget other sons ?


Tctrills.you are deceiving yourself.
Pls grow up and be reasonable.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2025
tctrills:
Stop acting movies here. No bible verse says God begot Adam, you invented that. Just as no bible verse says God begot you nor I.
Why are you very manipulative?
John 8:41,the Jews said God is their Father who beget/ born (Greek gennao) them .
Is God the same Father who begets Adam?

Psalm 2:7,Psalm 22:9-10 & Psalm 139:13, David confirmed that God begets him in his mother's womb & brought him out into the world .
Tctrills, lying to himself. Nah him way .

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:50pm On Nov 30, 2025
tctrills:
Stop confusing yourself. Yes Isaac is clearly the first and only child between Sarah and Abraham explain how that comes into the discussion.
Again the bible states that's woman has one child oga what is your point here? Are you saying that because this woman had only one child, that is some how important to this discussion because?
Abraham and Sarah had one child, A certain woman had one child, therefore, according to jw, Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and at the same time, He isn't. If you don't see that your doctrine is senseless, I can't help you anymore.
Hebrew 11:17-9 = John 3:16.
Hebrew 11;17-19 references John 3:16
Tctrills is deceiving himself.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 8:54pm On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
Hebrew 11:17-9 = John 3:16.
Hebrew 11;17-19 references John 3:16
Tctrills is deceiving himself.

I wouldn't reply to these references because you have shown you don't understand what you read.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 8:56pm On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
John 8:41,the Jews said God is their Father who beget/ born (Greek gennao) them .
Is God the same Father who begets Adam?

Psalm 2:7,Psalm 22:9-10 & Psalm 139:13, David confirmed that God begets him in his mother's womb & brought him out into the world .
Tctrills, lying to himself. Nah him way .

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Now you are saying all Jews are begotten sons of God but Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God but I am the one deceiving myself. Very eloquent.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 8:59pm On Nov 30, 2025
Kim
Janosky:
Tctrills opinion: Jesus is not the only begotten son of God
Hebrew 11:17-19, is Isaac the only begotten son of A raham?
Yes.

Tctrills, does Hebrew 11:17-19 say or mean that Abraham did not beget other sons ?

Tctrills, did John 3:16 mean that God did not beget other sons ?


Tctrills.you are deceiving yourself.
Pls grow up and be reasonable.
Again, you say, Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son and again we Clain is is not, every other person is also a begotten son.
Honestly this is not the work of a normal person. No insult intended.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 10:39pm On Nov 30, 2025
Janosky:
Tctrills opinion: Jesus is not the only begotten son of God
Hebrew 11:17-19, is Isaac the only begotten son of A raham?
Yes.

Tctrills, does Hebrew 11:17-19 say or mean that Abraham did not beget other sons ?

Tctrills, did John 3:16 mean that God did not beget other sons ?


Tctrills.you are deceiving yourself.
Pls grow up and be reasonable.
I noticed that you are not too good at understanding so I will explain to you the way I would explain to my child.

Have you heard of the term Mutually exclusive?

Mutually exclusive refers to two or more events or conditions that cannot occur simultaneously. If one event happens, the other cannot. For example, a coin toss resulting in either heads or tails is a classic illustration of mutually exclusive outcomes.

Let me give you one more example
If I tell you that I played in the rain today and again, I tell you that it did not rain today, these are mutually exclusive events, it is not possible to have both outcomes.

So when you say, Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God but all , Adam, the Jews, the spirits, and indeed all mankind are begotten sons of God, it is mutually exclusive.

Both statements can't be true at the same time. One must be false for the other to be true.

I hope you finally understand why you behave been wrong.

Anyway, one love.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Emusan(m): 10:30am On Dec 01, 2025
Janosky:
Please teach Emusan.
Phil 2:5-6 never said his false claim of equality .
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So what does Phil 2:6 say?

We will use all available data in Biblegateway, do ready to provide screenshot cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 2:55pm On Dec 02, 2025
tctrills:
So your point here is that Jesus Christ is not the only begotten Son, John lied according to you since everyone is a begotten Son of God. Ok, no problem
This clown for go write in own Bible, and leave us alone. grin
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 2:57pm On Dec 02, 2025
tctrills:
I noticed that you are not too good at understanding so I will explain to you the way I would explain to my child.

Have you heard of the term Mutually exclusive?

Mutually exclusive refers to two or more events or conditions that cannot occur simultaneously. If one event happens, the other cannot. For example, a coin toss resulting in either heads or tails is a classic illustration of mutually exclusive outcomes.

Let me give you one more example
If I tell you that I played in the rain today and again, I tell you that it did not rain today, these are mutually exclusive events, it is not possible to have both outcomes.

So when you say, Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God but all , Adam, the Jews, the spirits, and indeed all mankind are begotten sons of God, it is mutually exclusive.

Both statements can't be true at the same time. One must be false for the other to be true.

I hope you finally understand why you behave been wrong.

Anyway, one love.
Well said.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 2:58pm On Dec 02, 2025
blueAgent:
This clown for go write in own Bible, and leave us alone. grin
Janosky and gang are actually not the problem. They are victims of an evil system that makes intelligent people act brainlessly.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 3:00pm On Dec 02, 2025
tctrills:
Janosky and gang are actually not the problem. They are victims of an evil system that makes intelligent people act brainlessly.
True.

But they refuse to help themselves.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 3:23pm On Dec 02, 2025
blueAgent:
True.

But they refuse to help themselves.
And it is dangerous
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 3:31pm On Dec 02, 2025
tctrills:
And it is dangerous
True
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:34pm On Dec 02, 2025
Janosky:
Hebrew 11:17-9 = John 3:16.
Hebrew 11;17-19 references John 3:16
Tctrills is deceiving himself.
The way I am running is not aimlessly; the way I am aiming my blows is so as not to be striking the air. 1Corinthans 9:26

There's lot of work to do with interested ones {Matthew 9:37} that's why i ignore attention seekers or time wasters. Proverbs 26:4

If anyone feels he knows better let him get to work as in go out there and make disciples who are fully competent and completely equipped like members of Jehovah's Witnesses are globally known to be. Matthew 7:16-18

Greetings from Lagos!🙂

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 10:41pm On Dec 06, 2025
tctrills:
I wouldn't reply to these references because you have shown you don't understand what you read.

Tctrills rejects Hebrews 5:5 & John 3:16.

Tctrills have shown he does not believe the teaching of Jesus & Paul whom Jesus converted.
Tctrills can't change Hebrew 5:5 & John 3:16.
Oga,continue deceiving yourself.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 11:14pm On Dec 06, 2025
Emusan:
So what does Phil 2:6 say?

We will use all available data in Biblegateway, do ready to provide screenshot cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Direct your question to blueAgent,your fellow Trinity believer.
He said your claims not true.
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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 11:15pm On Dec 06, 2025
Emusan:
So what does Phil 2:6 say?

We will use all available data in Biblegateway, do ready to provide screenshot cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Direct your question to blueAgent,your fellow Trinity believer.
He has a lot to teach you about Phil 2:6.
He said your claims not true.
cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 11:33pm On Dec 06, 2025
tctrills:
I noticed that you are not too good at understanding so I will explain to you the way I would explain to my child.

Have you heard of the term Mutually exclusive?

Mutually exclusive refers to two or more events or conditions that cannot occur simultaneously. If one event happens, the other cannot. For example, a coin toss resulting in either heads or tails is a classic illustration of mutually exclusive outcomes.

Let me give you one more example
If I tell you that I played in the rain today and again, I tell you that it did not rain today, these are mutually exclusive events, it is not possible to have both outcomes.


So when you say, Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God but all , Adam, the Jews, the spirits, and indeed all mankind are begotten sons of God, it is mutually exclusive.

Both statements can't be true at the same time. One must be false for the other to be true.


I hope you finally understand why you behave been wrong.

Anyway, one love.
Oga,Your "mutual " theory is very faulty & error filled.
Tctrills, 5 questions for you have to respond to.
Where the inspired writers of Psalm 2:7,Hebrew5:5 & John 8:41 thinking about "mutually exclusive" in English?

Is English the original language of your Bible @Psalm2:7,Hebrew 5:5 & John 8:41?

What is the meaning of Greek gennao @Psalms2:7,Hebrew 5:5 & John 8:41?
Tctrills, which person did Greek gennao refer to @ Psalms 2:7, Hebrew5:5 & John 8:41?
Tctrills,is Jesus Gennao (begotten) @ Hebrews 5:5 & monogenes (only begotten) @ John 3:16?


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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 1:21am On Dec 07, 2025
Janosky:
Oga,Your "mutual " theory is very faulty & error filled.
Tctrills, 5 questions for you have to respond to.
Where the inspired writers of Psalm 2:7,Hebrew5:5 & John 8:41 thinking about "mutually exclusive" in English?

Is English the original language of your Bible @Psalm2:7,Hebrew 5:5 & John 8:41?

What is the meaning of Greek gennao @Psalms2:7,Hebrew 5:5 & John 8:41?
Tctrills, which person did Greek gennao refer to @ Psalms 2:7, Hebrew5:5 & John 8:41?
Tctrills,is Jesus Gennao (begotten) @ Hebrews 5:5 & monogenes (only begotten) @ John 3:16?


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Even when they explain to you like a baby, you still cant understand.

To answer your questions, mutual exclusivity is not an English or language concept.

It has applied to everything since création. It is older than any language you know. It simply means 2 things that cant be true at the same time.

In Hausa land, if you throw a coin, you cant get head and tail at the same time same in Yoruba land and all languages.

I hope you understand now.

To your next set of questions

I don't know the meaning of Greek gennao.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 1:23am On Dec 07, 2025
Janosky:

Tctrills rejects Hebrews 5:5 & John 3:16.

Tctrills have shown he does not believe the teaching of Jesus & Paul whom Jesus converted.
Tctrills can't change Hebrew 5:5 & John 3:16.
Oga,continue deceiving yourself.

Oga is Adam God's begotten son? And is Jesus Christ the only begotten?

Please answer these 2 questions.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Emusan(m): 7:21am On Dec 07, 2025
Janosky:
Direct your question to blueAgent,your fellow Trinity believer.
He has a lot to teach you about Phil 2:6.
He said your claims not true.
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So you don't have the courage to take up the challenge cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
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