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blueAgent:
Please explain it to me, what did the writer of that verse mean did he say Jesus is equal to God?
Please I want to learn also.

You are the teacher, how does "he thought it not robbery to be equal to God" means "he is not equal to God"....if I say that that blueAgent "thought it not robbery to steal", does that mean that blueAgent is not a thief?

Ken4Christ:
When people die, the spirit of the righteous people go to heaven and the soul of the lost goes to hell.

During the final judgment day, those who died will rise up the dead to face the final judgment. The souls in hell will be released and reunite with their bodies to face final judgment.

So when people die, they are judged, then they resurrecti and are judged a second time is that what you are saying?

Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher, how does "he thought it not robbery to be equal to God" means "he is not equal to God"....if I say that that blueAgent "thought it not robbery to steal", does that mean that blueAgent is not a thief?

Keep parroting one verse like it's the only verse in the bible.

The Man Jesus himself have told you that his father is greater than him.
Several other bible verses still show that Jesus is not equal in terms of authority to his father GOD.

And you are here talking rubbish, if Jesus cannot convince you, is me( blueagent) that would convince you?

Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher, how does "he thought it not robbery to be equal to God" means "he is not equal to God"....if I say that that blueAgent "thought it not robbery to steal", does that mean that blueAgent is not a thief?

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.


Jesus in the above verse said his father is greater.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

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In the above verse Paul is telling us that Jesus would be subjected to the authority of God.


1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In the above Bible verse
Paul is also telling us that the head of Christ is God.


And many other examples. If this verses are not enough explanation for you then you leave it till when you meet Jesus.

Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher, how does "he thought it not robbery to be equal to God" means "he is not equal to God"....if I say that that blueAgent "thought it not robbery to steal", does that mean that blueAgent is not a thief?

Other bible translation of Philippians 2:6 gives a better picture than the KJV.

New International Version
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

New Living Translation
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Berean Standard Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,


Berean Literal Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

King James Bible
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

New King James Version
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

New American Standard Bible
who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

NASB 1995
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

NASB 1977
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Legacy Standard Bible
who, although existing in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Amplified Bible
who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God [as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes—the entire nature of deity], did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted [as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it];

Christian Standard Bible
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be exploited.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage.

American Standard Version
who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Contemporary English Version
Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

English Revised Version
who, being in the form of God, counted it not a prize to be on an equality with God,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality.

Good News Translation
He always had the nature of God, but he did not think that by force he should try to remain equal with God.

International Standard Version
In God's own form existed he, and shared with God equality, deemed nothing needed grasping.

NET Bible
who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped,

New Heart English Bible
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Webster's Bible Translation
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Weymouth New Testament
Although from the beginning He had the nature of God He did not reckon His equality with God a treasure to be tightly grasped.
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

World English Bible
who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not something to be seized to be equal to God,

Berean Literal Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

Young's Literal Translation
who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal to God,

Smith's Literal Translation
Who, being in the form of God, thought not robbery to be equal to God.

Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher, how does "he thought it not robbery to be equal to God" means "he is not equal to God"....if I say that that blueAgent "thought it not robbery to steal", does that mean that blueAgent is not a thief?

The primary purpose or message of Philippians 2:6 is the humility of Christ.
The verse is not about Jesus been equal to God, but that Jesus despite having God's divinity, he did not do his will but the will of his father.

blueAgent:
The primary purpose or message of Philippians 2:6 is the humility of Christ.
The verse is not about Jesus been equal to God, but that Jesus despite having God's divinity, he did not do his will but the will of his father.

🤣🤣So the verse did not say that "he thought it not robbery to be equal to God" just like "blueAgent thought it not robbery to steal"?

blueAgent:
Other bible translation of Philippians 2:6 gives a better picture than the KJV.

New International Version
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

New Living Translation
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Berean Standard Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,


Berean Literal Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

King James Bible
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

New King James Version
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

New American Standard Bible
who, as He already existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

NASB 1995
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

NASB 1977
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Legacy Standard Bible
who, although existing in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Amplified Bible
who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God [as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes—the entire nature of deity], did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted [as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it];

Christian Standard Bible
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be exploited.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be used for His own advantage.

American Standard Version
who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Contemporary English Version
Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

English Revised Version
who, being in the form of God, counted it not a prize to be on an equality with God,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality.

Good News Translation
He always had the nature of God, but he did not think that by force he should try to remain equal with God.

International Standard Version
In God's own form existed he, and shared with God equality, deemed nothing needed grasping.

NET Bible
who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped,

New Heart English Bible
who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Webster's Bible Translation
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Weymouth New Testament
Although from the beginning He had the nature of God He did not reckon His equality with God a treasure to be tightly grasped.
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,

World English Bible
who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not something to be seized to be equal to God,

Berean Literal Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

Young's Literal Translation
who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal to God,

Smith's Literal Translation
Who, being in the form of God, thought not robbery to be equal to God.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality.

Please explain the bolded

Truthseeker10:
Oga bring the better translation here.....where does the Bible teach that "man is a spirit"? Does the verses that you quoted above says that "man is a spirit"? If yes, bring the statement out here.

Let us look at the three passages I dropped. Genesis 6:1-6, let's look at the verse 3, it says
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sonmvayina:
Let us look at the three passages I dropped. Genesis 6:1-6, let's look at the verse 3, it says
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oga you are going back in circles because you are failing.....God Clearly said that "man is mortal" where did God say that "man is spirit" in that verse?

Truthseeker10:
Oga bring the better translation here.....where does the Bible teach that "man is a spirit"? Does the verses that you quoted above says that "man is a spirit"? If yes, bring the statement out here.

Let us look at the three passages I dropped. Genesis 6:1-6, let's look at the verse 3,

it says
"Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”

Now let us consider Ecclesiastes 12:7 which says

7And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God, Who gave it.

And finally psalm 104:29-31, with emphasis on 30
29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.

30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

31 The glory of the Lord shall endure for ever: the Lord shall rejoice in his works.

Look at 29 too.
What were you able to deduct from them?
Don't ask me any questions, just try and answer me. End of it we will both learn something. Work with me.

Truthseeker10:
oga you are going back in circles because you are failing.....God Clearly said that "man is mortal" where did God say that "man is spirit" in that verse?

I have dropped the complete one, my fingers mistakenly pressed "submit"

sonmvayina:
Let us look at the three passages I dropped. Genesis 6:1-6, let's look at the verse 3,

it says
"Then the Lord said, “People are only human. I will not let my Spirit be troubled by them forever. I will let them live only 120 years.”

Now let us consider Ecclesiastes 12:7 which says

7And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God, Who gave it.

And finally psalm 104:29-31, with emphasis on 30
29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.

30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

31 The glory of the Lord shall endure for ever: the Lord shall rejoice in his works.

Look at 29 too.
What were you able to deduct from them?
Don't ask me any questions, just try and answer me. End of it we will both learn something. Work with me.

So in all of these, where is it said that man is spirit?

Truthseeker10:
So in all of these, where is it said that man is spirit?

Then man is what? If not spirit living in a body made of dust. ? You tell me....

sonmvayina:
Then man is what? If not spirit living in a body made of dust. ? You tell me....

oga man is dust as shown in Genesis 3:19.

King James Bible
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

Kindly highlight a verse in the bible where God refers to man by saying "for spirit thou art".

Excellent!🤔

Truthseeker10:
oga man is dust as shown in Genesis 3:19.
King James Bible
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return
Kindly highlight a verse in the bible where God refers to man by saying "for spirit thou art".

tctrills:
But it is written that at death, the spirit goes back to God is God's présence the DSS and police custody?

but are you a spirit or a soul?

Truthseeker10:
oga man is dust as shown in Genesis 3:19.

King James Bible
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

Kindly highlight a verse in the bible where God refers to man by saying "for spirit thou art".

Hahahahahahahahhaa
What about Ecclesiastes 12:7
?

How do you explain it ?

How do you also explain psalm 104:29-31?

gohf:
but are you a spirit or a soul?

We are all souls...
Souls= body made of dust from the earth + spirit from the source (our creator).

When our number is up, The spirit returns to God who gave it and we just bury the body after some ceremonies in the ground 6ft, for it to return to earth.

When God sends his spirit humans are created and renews the face of the earth.

gohf:
but are you a spirit or a soul?

Oga stick to one topic at a time.

sonmvayina:
Hahahahahahahahhaa
What about Ecclesiastes 12:7
?

How do you explain it ?

How do you also explain psalm 104:29-31?

Kindly show me where God referred to man by saying "for spirit thou art" in those verses that you quoted.

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me where God referred to man by saying "for spirit thou art" in those verses that you quoted.

Ok boy, let's leave it like that......run along now

Is this a man.it is made of hardenEd dust. Is this a man or not? I need an answer.

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me where God referred to man by saying "for spirit thou art" in those verses that you quoted.

Are these men standing up there? They are made from dust
"For dust are they".....do they qualify as men? If not why??

sonmvayina:
Are these men standing up there? They are made from dust
"For dust are they".....do they qualify as men? If not why??

So God was wrong when he said that Adam was dust?

Are the structures in the picture that you posted the same as the body of a dead person?

Truthseeker10:
So God was wrong when he said that Adam was dust?
Are the structures in the picture that you posted the same as the body of a dead person?

Whoever doesn't agree with him is dumb to him but nobody ever agree with him on this forum so just allow him spew whatever he wants and let him rest!🙂

Truthseeker10:
So God was wrong when he said that Adam was dust?

Are the structures in the picture that you posted the same as the body of a dead person?

You answer your question. You said man is dust, and I showed you " for thou art dust" you they ask me back.

Until

sonmvayina:
You answer your question. You said man is dust, and I showed you " for thou art dust" you they ask me back.

Until

🤣🤣What are you even saying?

God made man from dust and said that Adam was dust.

So is Adam's body that is from dust or the body of a dead person the same as the structures in the pictures that you posted?