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I am quite shocked that Northern Nigeria has finally exposed the motive behind the malicious and humanly unacceptable banditry and terrorism that has plagued Nigeria for almost twenty years now.

First of all, let's ask reasonable questions where these Northern elders are comparing the Niger Delta Militants who fought for their "GOD-Given" resources (Hydrocarbon/Petroleum) due to the neglect the region that produces 90% of Nigeria's wealth bringing in Trillions of dollars over the years has faced in the hands of their exploiters both foreign and domestic and why they think such irrationality would fly!

The world should ask them if the Quran that they claim is the basis for their malevolent ways (obviously not the Quran) is now a "natural resource" like petroleum where the country has over the years made Trillions of dollars from!

The best thing to happen right now is for Nigeria to divide since the game plan of the North has been exposed because such comparison is not only annoying and nauseating but also an abomination!

I come in peace!

TheNobleProphet:
(obviously not the Quran)

So, you know its obviously not the Quran, yet you call them "Islamic Terrorists"?

I wonder if you'd call a pastor a Christian if he murders his neighbours.

Work a bit more on your supposed honesty please, is what I need say to you.

And consider this thread by IROHINOodua. If might make you wonder about the oppressed Hausa Muslims (and Christians) too.

https://www.nairaland.com/8572209/hausas-call-divorce-fulani-domination#137649118

budaatum:
So, you know its obviously not the Quran, yet you call them "Islamic Terrorists"?

I wonder if you'd call a pastor a Christian if he murders his neighbours.

Work a bit more on your supposed honesty please, is what I need say to you.

And consider this thread by IROHINOodua. If might make you wonder about the oppressed Hausa Muslims (and Christians) too.

https://www.nairaland.com/8572209/hausas-call-divorce-fulani-domination#137649118

Your lack of comprehension is the reason why you are so slow to understand simple things!

Please, keep off and don't derail this topic!

TheNobleProphet:
Your lack of comprehension is the reason why you are so slow to understand simple things!

Please, keep off and don't derail this topic!

You can't keep me off this topic!

If you know, as you stated, that the Quran does not teach people to be terrorists, why call the terrorists Muslims instead of criminals?

Nigeria is not dividing anywhere, so learn to love your neighbours!

TheNobleProphet:
I am quite shocked that Northern Nigeria has finally exposed the motive behind the malicious and humanly unacceptable banditry and terrorism that has plagued Nigeria for almost twenty years now.

First of all, let's ask reasonable questions where these Northern elders are comparing the Niger Delta Militants who fought for their "GOD-Given" resources (Hydrocarbon/Petroleum) due to the neglect the region that produces 90% of Nigeria's wealth bringing in Trillions of dollars over the years has faced in the hands of their exploiters both foreign and domestic and why they think such irrationality would fly!

The world should ask them if the Quran that they claim is the basis for their malevolent ways (obviously not the Quran) is now a "natural resource" like petroleum where the country has over the years made Trillions of dollars from!

The best thing to happen right now is for Nigeria to divide since the game plan of the North has been exposed because such comparison is not only annoying and nauseating but also an abomination!

I come in peace!

budaatum:
You can't keep me off this topic!

If you know, as you stated, that the Quran does not teach people to be terrorists, why call the terrorists Muslims instead of criminals?

Nigeria is not dividing anywhere, so learn to love your neighbours!

Yes, they are Islamic terrorists because they have declared many times and openly that they plan to "islamize" Nigeria!

You can as well ask Gumi and his co-travellers and I believe he has better answers for you!

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TheNobleProphet:
Yes, they are Islamic terrorists because they have declared many times and openly that they plan to "islamize" Nigeria!

If that were true, they would not be attacking Muslims, which I hope you know they do.

Besides, one should be looking at their fruits, and not just want they say.

budaatum:
If that were true, they would not be attacking Muslims, which I hope you know they do.

Besides, one should be looking at their fruits, and not just want they say.

My good friend, attacking Muslims is out of the question because based on your suggestion, al qaeda, isis, al aqim, al shabab, iswap, boko haram, etc do attack Muslims but all have one thing in common which is "Islamic terrorism"!

TheNobleProphet:
My good friend, attacking Muslims is out of the question because based on your suggestion, al qaeda, isis, al aqim, al shabab, iswap, boko haram, etc do attack Muslims but all have one thing in common which is "Islamic terrorism"!

And I am suggesting to you that they are not Muslims. And calling terrorists Muslims is like calling Branch Davidians and Alamo Christian Foundation Christians, even if that is what they call themselves.

Please know that it is my own opinion that a person is not a Christian if they can not do the simplest of things like love their neighbours, no matter how much they fast and pray and claim to believe.

Also know that me quoting Bible does not mean I am a Christian, for I am indeed not, nor a Muslim.

budaatum:
If that were true, they would not be attacking Muslims, which I hope you know they do.

Besides, one should be looking at their fruits, and not just want they say.

Hamas opposes and wants to wipe out Israel, that’s their primary goal. But they also kill Palestians who are seen collaborating with Israel, or resisting their rule over Palestine. Common sense! 🧠

givedemwotowoto:
Hamas opposes and wants to wipe out Israel, that’s their primary goal. But they also kill Palestians who are seen collaborating with Israel, or resisting their rule over Palestine. Common sense! 🧠

Hamas is an islamic political organisation fighting for the political freedom of Palestinians, even if we do not like how they go about it.

If Israel were oppressing me like they oppress Palestinians and steal their land, I will terrorise Israel too. And if Nigeria were oppressing Biafra and stealing land from Biafrans, I will blow Abuja and Lagos, note.

Thankfully, Nigeria is doing no such thing.

budaatum:
And I am suggesting to you that they are not Muslims. And calling terrorists Muslims is like calling Branch Davidians and Alamo Christian Foundation Christians, even if that is what they call themselves.

Please know that it is my own opinion that a person is not a Christian if they can not do the simplest of things like love their neighbours, no matter how much they fast and pray and claim to believe.

Also know that me quoting Bible does not mean I am a Christian, for I am indeed not, nor a Muslim.

I see. You are confused!

Please, take your confusion out of this thread!

If you believe the quran doesn't encourage terrorism then you will believe alligator is the same with crocodile.

In addition, the worst aspect as regards what is unfolding in Nigeria presently is that, majority of these Islamic terrorists are not Nigerians.

If the security forces kill any of these terrorists, I bet you 💯 that you can't find their family house anywhere within the territory of Nigeria because they are majorly foreigners from neighboring countries like Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Mali, Mauritania and only very few of them are actually Nigerians!

Goodmarlian:
If you believe the quran doesn't encourage terrorism then you will believe alligator is the same with crocodile.

In all sincerity, it does not!

These Islamic terrorists and those with similar extremist ideology twist the truth in the Quran to justify their malevolent and inhuman activities!

Honestly the good Muslims are not helping matters . They don't come out enough to condemn these extremist in their religion. The religion is still stuck in the stone ages of conquest.

TheNobleProphet:
I see. You are confused!

Please, take your confusion out of this thread!

No, I will not take myself out of this thread. Stop begging me.

Note how I stopped being your brother because I've told you I'm not a Christian, nor your man for that matter, which just shows how your mind functions, or not, lol. Pretty much how you see Muslims as not you neighbours too, if I'm asked, which is why you call them terrorists and want to separate from them.

1. Surah An‑Nisa 4:74
“Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, We shall bestow upon him a great reward.”

2. Surah Al‑Anfal 8:12
“When thy Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them.”

3. Surah Al‑Anfal 8:15–16
“O ye who believe! when ye meet the disbelievers in battle, turn not your backs to them. But whoso turneth his back to them on such a day, unless it be a stratagem of war, or to join a company, he hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his abode is hell, an evil refuge.”

4. Surah Al‑Anfal 8:17
“Ye slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou didst not throw when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers with a good test…”

5. Surah Al‑Anfal 8:39
“And fight them until there is no more fitna (disbelief, idolatry), and the religion (worship) is for Allah alone…”

6. Surah Al‑Anfal 8:42
“When ye met them, ye were few, and they were many. Allah gave you victory by His leave…”

7. Surah Al‑Anfal 8:60
“And make ready against them all ye can of power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and others besides them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them. And whatsoever ye spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”

8. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:5
“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor‑due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

9. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:12
“And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief…”

10. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:14
“Fight them! Allah will punish them by your hands, and will disgrace them, and will give you victory over them…”

11. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:36
“The number of months with Allah is twelve months by Allah’s ordinance… fight against the disbelievers wherever ye find them…”

12. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:38
“O ye who believe! what aileth you that when it is said unto you: Go forth in the way of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Are ye pleased with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? Yet little is the comfort of the life of this world compared with the Hereafter.”

13. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:41
“Go forth, light and heavy, and strive with your wealth and your persons in the way of Allah. That is better for you, if ye did but know.”

14. Surah At‑Tawbah 9:123
“O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you; and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).”

15. Surah Al‑Hashr 59:2
“He it is Who expelled the disbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering. Ye did not think that they would depart, and they thought that their fortresses would defend them against Allah. But Allah came upon them from whence they perceived not, and cast terror into their hearts…”

16. Surah Al‑Hashr 59:5
“That which Allah cast out from the homes of the People of the Book unto you, for a means of war, and for your use…”

17. Surah Al‑Mujadila 58:20
“Lo! those who oppose Allah and His messenger, they will be among the lowest.”

18. Surah Al‑Mujadila 58:21
“Allah hath decreed: I verily shall conquer, I and My messengers…”

19. Surah Muhammad 47:4
“So when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, smite at their necks until when ye have routed them, make fast the bonds; and afterward either set them free as a favor or take ransom until the war lay down its burdens…”

20. Surah Muhammad 47:32
“Lo! those who disbelieve and turn from the way of Allah and oppose the messenger after the guidance hath been manifested unto them, they will not injure Allah in the least, and He will make their works fruitless.”

21. Surah Muhammad 47:35
“So do not falter and cry out for peace when ye should be the uppermost…”

22. Surah Al‑Fath 48:28
“He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it prevail over all religion…”

23. Surah As‑Saff 61:9
“He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conquer over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.”

24. Surah As‑Saff 61:10
“O ye who believe! Shall I tell you a trade that will save you from a painful doom? That ye believe in Allah and His messenger, and strive in the way of Allah with your wealth and your persons…”

25. Surah As‑Saff 61:11
“(It is) that will be better for you, if ye but know. He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into gardens beneath which rivers flow, and pleasant dwellings in gardens of eternity. That is indeed the great achievement.”

26. Surah As‑Saff 61:12
“And He will give you another reward, that ye love Him, and He will love you, and forgive you your sins; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

27. Surah As‑Saff 61:13
“(It is) a victory nigh at hand, and a provision, and a joy, from Allah, and He will help you against the folk who reject faith.”

28. Surah Al‑Imran 3:121
“When thou didst leave thy family at night to appoint the believers to their positions for battle…”

29. Surah Al‑Imran 3:123
“Allah had already assisted you at Badr, when ye were few. So fear Allah; that ye may give thanks.”

aribisala0:
1. Surah An‑Nisa 4:74
“Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the ....

The hypocrisy is that when some use Bible to justify their genocide, you'd claim that's not what the Bible means.

budaatum:
The hypocrisy is that when some use Bible to justify their genocide, you'd claim that's not what the Bible means.

I do not get you
What is your point?
What is the relevance of this

budaatum:
You can't keep me off this topic!

If you know, as you stated, that the Quran does not teach people to be terrorists, why call the terrorists Muslims instead of criminals?

Nigeria is not dividing anywhere, so learn to love your neighbours!

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The love for oil/gas money is real. From your point, it's best to love your evil and wicked neighbours who derive joy in causing havoc?

9japride:
The love for oil/gas money is real. From your point, it's best to love your evil and wicked neighbours who derive joy in causing havoc?

No, that is not my point. I hate terrorists just as much as any sane person should, but making out these terrorists are Muslims, or insinuating Muslims are defacto terrorists, is untrue and evil and wicked.

We all know many Muslims who are not terrorists, and if their religion promoted terrorism as some have claimed here, most sane countries would ban them and their religion instead of electing Muslims as president of Nigeria and mayors of London and New York.

budaatum:
No, that is not my point. I hate terrorists just as much as any sane person should, but making out these terrorists are Muslims, or insinuating Muslims are defacto terrorists, is untrue and evil and wicked.

We all know many Muslims who are not terrorists, and if their religion promoted terrorism as some have claimed here, most sane countries would ban them and their religion instead of electing Muslims as president of Nigeria and mayors of London and New York.

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The majority of people causing havoc all over the country practice same religion. And the moderate faithfuls are quiet about it. They will be happy if those religious fanatical bandits overthrow a government and install their religious system.
It's only the ignorant ones that think all these isn't a religious warfare.
Those who practice a religion of violent should look inward.

9japride:
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The majority of people causing havoc all over the country practice same religion. And the moderate faithfuls are quiet about it. They will be happy if those religious fanatical bandits overthrow a government and install their religious system.
It's only the ignorant ones that think all these isn't a religious warfare.
Those who practice a religion of violent should look inward.

I agree with you 💯

Also, majority of their "foot soldiers" are not Nigerians!

It's a big mess!

TheNobleProphet:
I am quite shocked that Northern Nigeria has finally exposed the motive behind the malicious and humanly unacceptable banditry and terrorism that has plagued Nigeria for almost twenty years now.

First of all, let's ask reasonable questions where these Northern elders are comparing the Niger Delta Militants who fought for their "GOD-Given" resources (Hydrocarbon/Petroleum) due to the neglect the region that produces 90% of Nigeria's wealth bringing in Trillions of dollars over the years has faced in the hands of their exploiters both foreign and domestic and why they think such irrationality would fly!

The world should ask them if the Quran that they claim is the basis for their malevolent ways (obviously not the Quran) is now a "natural resource" like petroleum where the country has over the years made Trillions of dollars from!

The best thing to happen right now is for Nigeria to divide since the game plan of the North has been exposed because such comparison is not only annoying and nauseating but also an abomination!

I come in peace!

The Federal Republic of Nigeria should separate because of the activities of some ignorant illiterates?

People like yourself are as guilty as them.

You don reason am!

TheNobleProphet:
I agree with you 💯

Also, majority of their "foot soldiers" are not Nigerians!

It's a big mess!

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You are right, that's why they kill without mercy because they have no connection with Nigeria.
It looks like religious/hate motivated violence.

The writer of this thread is just being mischievous.

Why should he or she deliberately misinterpret the statement made by the Northern elders?

Why?

Burob:
The Federal Republic of Nigeria should separate because of the activities of some ignorant illiterates?

People like yourself are as guilty as them.

The so called "ignorant illiterate" using sophisticated weapons to kidnap, rape and kill innocent citizens "are as guilty" as you..... you mean?

Please, keep off this thread since you have nothing meaningful inside of you!

What are you talking about? How does the claim of Northern elders translate to the agenda of all Northerners?

Are you saying all Northerners believe in this?

odejimioflagos:
What are you talking about? How does the claim of Northern elders translate to the agenda of all Northerners?

Are you saying all Northerners believe in this?

Please, direct your questions to one of the prominent northerner going about saying that "the bandits/terrorists are more important than their victims"!

You go fear the North