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SIRTee15:
➜So what other protein should bring in as substitute? Egg? A crate of egg is 6k. Titus is the commonest fish. U want to try catfish, stockfish or dry fish. Dey play Btw, it's a must u eat fruits and vegetables everyday as a portion. That's how u keep sickness away and stay healthy in old age. Balanced diet is now a luxury in that country- 50k can't get u balanced diet for a family of 3.
As I said earlier, it's up to u if u think the whole family should share one piece of meat as protein in a day. People did it and they survived.
But as far as I'm concerned, that's poverty. Nobody should live like that. Finally, Take this advice from me as a health practitioner - make sure u eat a whole portion of fruits and vegetables EVERYDAY. Also eat lots of fish Add exercise join- 4 times per week of cardio exercise
What u eat today determines your state of health and fitness in 10 years.

The sad of all of this is that a non-balanced diet is also one of the reasons why those stuck in poverty have a hard time leaving it.

ibechris:
I am not rich but I earn high and reasonable amount of money every month.

If that hurts so be it.
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So why is poor men having more children than you painting you
Is it your poverty

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Poor men don't advice rich and middle class rather advise ur yourself.

in child resting they should
They got more than you

Thomas1186:
PLS I NEED URGENT ADVISE AND SOLUTION!

Each time our marriage breaks, my business gets stuck and all manners of evils happen to me at the same time.

We did a couple of business together before she suddenly became attractive to me one day when I saw her. I wooed her and we dated for just 2 months and got married the third month.

Few weeks into the marriage I discovered she had a traveling bag full of celestial materials like oils, crosses, perfumes, candles, to mention but a few. When I confronted her, her brother called and told me not to be angry that they are celestial members, whereas she told me she is a Roman Catholic. This was the beginning of discoveries.

Later on, I realised she lied to me about her parents, health condition, age and almost everything else.

She is a lawyer. She hates everyone around her, doesn't forgive and she has no friend.

When I'm sleeping, she search my phone, pockets and bags.

One night, she was watching a movie on her phone and she slept off, so as I picked it, I saw her chat with her male lawyer friend. I realised that everything we discuss at home, she chats it with the guy and also told the guy to prepare a prenuptial agreement for her, that would State that at the end of our marriage, everything we bought together would be hers. So, the lawyer asked her how she was going to get me to sign the agreement, and she said she was going to get me to sign it without knowing it. And a lot more.

She began to accuse me of women, and infidelity.

Fast forward, there were so many problems that I had to send her away and immediately after that, everything was upside down for me: my business was stuck, I was duped of a huge amount of money. I had an accident and I couldn't walk. Everything was in
jeopardy.

We finally came back together and her character and attitude, disrespect for me, my family and friends etc, became times three. It got to a point that I was almost running mad. It became totally unbearable and I had to finally send her away. But before then, I calculated everything she has ever contributed financially to my life and I refunded her. Then I told her it can't work that I cannot continue. that she should leave. And that happened about 4 months ago. From the moment I gave her that money, everything becomes stuck. I either have a client who would agree to do business but after then, he or she would never call again or take my calls. But if he or she takes my call and is ready to pay, minutes before they make payment someone else would make the payment. I am into real estate. This has been the case for the past 4 months. The truth is that she doesn't eat catfish and sometimes make statements like can you come home I want to pray for you so that your business will work come and let me pray for you.

Another problem is that her younger brother is like a god that sits for her. She reports everything that happened in our marriage to him. He was the commander and decision maker of everything. The one who sent her perfumes and oils once a little thing happens.

I have prayed and prayed but still my business no longer works at all. It's just disappointment now.

I have requested for my Downy and it's been refunded.

Pls help.

That is why ìt is always and often good to know who u want to marry before u say I do.

I don't believe that there is no juju. That lady has caged u and u can't do anything except u too go the same length and above the level she is operating on.

Tit for tat should be activated quickly...do everything to save yourself from her black magic.

Every reasonable man or woman avoids white garment people because of these kinds of rituals. Can't u see that many of them don't get married especially their ladies.

Do quick to free yourself this self inflicted wahala.

I packed out of my former house because of this same white garment landlady which I got to found out few years in my rental tenor,she sprayed every nonsense in and around the house and to worsen the matter,on our cars...that was why I called it off and I immediately packed out to avoid being met with bad luck and after everything,I blocked her on both WhatsApp and lines.

Cromagnon:
you know poor men have more kids than you pretending to be rich

Poverty mindset.

U have a long way to go in life.

ibechris:
So,because I have two cars that means I am living beyond my means.

If in a year,I make 60million and spend 18million how am I living above my means.

Oga,park jor. Must every be in poverty.

I am not complaining here okay.

Oga stop forming.I am not in your class.Do you think I can sit in a office for 200k. They hype yourself. You are making 60m , spending 80m , story for the God. Who asked you question in the first place. You turned yourself to D.A Fagunwa dey tell us story. Your 200k is 2.4m per annum gross, so where is the 60 million coming from. Empty barrel make the loudest noise, I am not here to drag with you. All I know is that if your naration is real, you are living beyond your means. I am not spending 18m annually and my family are living happily including a vacation abroad annually.

Babaibe:
Oga stop forming.I am not in your class.Do you think I can sit in a office for 200k. They hype yourself. You are making 60m , spending 80m , story for the God. Who asked you question in the first place. You turned yourself to D.A Fagunwa dey tell us story. Your 200k is 2.4m per annum gross, so where is the 60 million coming from. Empty barrel make the loudest noise, I am not here to drag with you. All I know is that if your naration is real, you are living beyond your means. I am not spending 18m annually and my family are living happily including a vacation abroad annually.

This one pain u.

Well,I am always a proud man...at least I am not poor...if it pains u further,u can do the needful.

Sorry for ur High blood pressure ok.

Babaibe:
Oga stop forming.I am not in your class.Do you think I can sit in a office for 200k. They hype yourself. You are making 60m , spending 80m , story for the God. Who asked you question in the first place. You turned yourself to D.A Fagunwa dey tell us story. Your 200k is 2.4m per annum gross, so where is the 60 million coming from. Empty barrel make the loudest noise, I am not here to drag with you. All I know is that if your naration is real, you are living beyond your means. I am not spending 18m annually and my family are living happily including a vacation abroad annually.

Why are u angry on another person post. He never asked u for advice.

U sounded very pained. Stop displaying this kind of unreasonable attitude outside.

In his write up,he said thank to his side income.

Meaning he has an additional income that makes up for him...so why are u angry?

Jman06:
Says who? People can marry on that salary and still be happy if they have the right mindset and approach life with wisdom

Life is not nollywood. Do you guy think life is all about rice and garri?

Have you thought of how expensive healthcare is? School fees and materials? Rent, and clothing. Be like you think say na lala land una Dey live.

ibechris:
This one pain u.

Well,I am always a proud man...at least I am not poor...if it pains u further,u can do the needful.

Sorry for ur High blood pressure ok.

See this one, your remark made smile. If anyone is a potential candidate of high bp , Oga na you ooo. Me I dey enjoy my life. I am not coming to nairaland to lament ooo. I don't need magic to turn 2.4m gross to 60m per annum and spend 18m on family with batallion nannies and 100 cars oo. Na your problem wey no dey finish oo. All I know is that empty barrel makes the loudest noise, and you don't need to mount a stool for the world to know you are tall.

Nice2023:
Why are u angry on another person post. He never asked u for advice.

U sounded very pained. Stop displaying this kind of unreasonable attitude outside.

In his write up,he said thank to his side income.

Meaning he has an additional income that makes up for him...so why are u angry?

Initially, I decided to ignore your foolish comment. But you know what people like you that come here to brag and jump to debate without careful reasoning are the most miserable.You painted Nigeria as hell when you have never stayed one day abroad. A man earning 200k is making unreasonable justification for his unreasonable spending. Yet someone like you is jamming hand for him when I am sure you dont have a million in your account. Are people not surviving with 150k salary or less. Yes, we know times are hard but not for to tell us you are spending 1.2m on food stuff and nannies, then your family must have their pots in shoprite . Oga I am happy for those who hustle legally, if your job pays 200kmonthly which translate to 2.4m, and your side hustle pay 57.6m annually. Then quite the job and face the hustle, at least you can double your income to 120 million annually except if the hustle is to steal fund that belong to the government using that same office like people working at Inland revenue.

Babaibe:
See this one, your remark made smile. If anyone is a potential candidate of high bp , Oga na you ooo. Me I dey enjoy my life. I am not coming to nairaland to lament ooo. I don't need magic to turn 2.4m gross to 60m per annum and spend 18m on family with batallion nannies and 100 cars oo. Na your problem wey no dey finish oo. All I know is that empty barrel makes the loudest noise, and you don't need to mount a stool for the world to know you are tall.

Yoruba man with so much envy and hate.

How much do you pay your laundry man for ironing per-shirt(clothe)?

hatchy:
Also add to the data boys salary, you're good to go, abi.

So a lot of your here don't even earn what I pay my laundry man, yet you'll come online to insult your f*ther.

I don't blame you guys.

ibechris:
U didn't read well OK.

I did

I didn't seek for ur advice.

But we paid attention

SpencerForbes:
What passed 😳 The only thing killing Nigerian is they want to copy the ‘joes living next door’ You can stop your children from using pampers after a year and with proper training the child will be able to reduce the use of pampers.

How many years will you buy pampers, is it for a lifetime? A young man and lady that has planned their family life in the first two years of marriage and even started a side hustle, you think they won’t be able to provide a year of pampers.

many many nonsense I have nothing say to you, whatever rocks your boat idgaf

Are you serious?

6 children on 65k income!

Mikuni:
I'm married with 6 children and I earn 65k monthly. It's all about good management and understanding. Stretch your hands to your phone screen now and receive the Spirit of good management.
Why must you eat rice and chicken when garri and ablubosa "Onions" exist?

the difference between your ego and your income is your savings

Kobojunkie:
The sad of all of this is that a non-balanced diet is also one of the reasons why those stuck in poverty have a hard time leaving it.

@SpencerForbes, @truthhurts2

pls I beg u in the name of whatever u worship, go back and read what Kobojunkie wrote, then do more research on the impact of balanced diet on cognitive development.
As adults if u have given up on yourself, fine: but don't rub it on your kids. children need regular consumption of protein, milk, fruits and vegetables for proper brain development.

If u noticed, children from poor homes no longer do well on test scores in schools in naija. check admissions into competitive courses like medicine, Law....they are dominated by kids from rich homes. Its not connection, its difference in cognitive development as a result of nutrition.

One of u even said u dont need to eat fruits everyday. That's a bad advice.
pls give your kids milk, vegetables and fruits everyday and do not deny them protein.

In the uk, if they check the lunchbox of your kids in school and its devoid of fruits and vegetables, the school will write a very nasty letter to you as a parent.

1144AK:
This is not true at all, except in extreme cases(like In a famine)..

AI is very wrong. malnutrition cause decrease in milk production. A nursing mother who isnt eating or has poor diet will have nothing to produce. every breastfeeding know this. If the mother is not eating well, what's she going to produce.

I have seen a neonate died of starvation because the mum wasn't producing adequate breastmilk- virtually nothing because she wasn't eating and she had no money to buy baby formula.
This one no be dem say, it happened in the hospital I worked.

SIRTee15:
@SpencerForbes, @truthhurts2

pls I beg u in the name of whatever u worship, go back and read what Kobojunkie wrote, then do more research on the impact of balanced diet on cognitive development.
As adults if u have given up on yourself, fine: but don't rub it on your kids. children need regular consumption of protein, milk, fruits and vegetables for proper brain development.

If u noticed, children from poor homes no longer do well on test scores in schools in naija. check admissions into competitive courses like medicine, Law....they are dominated by kids from rich homes. Its not connection, its difference in cognitive development as a result of nutrition.

One of u even said u dont need to eat fruits everyday. That's a bad advice.
pls give your kids milk, vegetables and fruits everyday and do not deny them protein.

In the uk, if they check the lunchbox of your kids in school and its devoid of fruits and vegetables, the school will write a very nasty letter to you as a parent.

I had effectively closed my chapter on this debate, but since you mentioned me specifically, I will provide my final take for clarity. I want you to look at this blueprint objectively and tell me exactly where the logic fails. The fundamental premise here is that marriage is a partnership, not a solo burden. If a young man earning 100k—which is above the 70k minimum wage—is wise enough to marry an industrious partner earning a similar 90k to 100k, they immediately establish a combined household base of roughly 200k.

That 200k isn't just for consumption; it serves as leverage. They can comfortably set aside funds to start a side hustle like a POS business or workplace provision sales, or even invest in high-income skills like cybersecurity. If the lady is equally active and invests capital into cloth vending, that is an immediate startup. When you combine the salaries with the profits from these ventures, the family income can easily rise to around 300k monthly.

Here is where the real strategy kicks in. If they agree to suspend childbearing for the first two years, they accumulate serious capital. With a monthly inflow of around 300k, they generate 3.6 million in a year and 7.2 million over two years. Even if we account for a realistic expenditure of 5 million naira for living costs during that period, they are left with a solid savings reserve of 2.2 million naira before their first child even arrives. With that capital, they can diversify further into agriculture like poultry or pig farming. In five years, a family operating on this model will have absolutely no issue affording protein or maintaining a good standard of living.

Success relies on choosing an industrious (not our online feminist and woke ladies) supportive partner and adhering to strict strategic financial planning.

SpencerForbes:
I had effectively closed my chapter on this debate, but since you mentioned me specifically, I will provide my final take for clarity. I want you to look at this blueprint objectively and tell me exactly where the logic fails. The fundamental premise here is that marriage is a partnership, not a solo burden. If a young man earning 100k—which is above the 70k minimum wage—is wise enough to marry an industrious partner earning a similar 90k to 100k, they immediately establish a combined household base of roughly 200k.

That 200k isn't just for consumption; it serves as leverage. They can comfortably set aside funds to start a side hustle like a POS business or workplace provision sales, or even invest in high-income skills like cybersecurity. If the lady is equally active and invests capital into cloth vending, that is an immediate startup. When you combine the salaries with the profits from these ventures, the family income can easily rise to around 300k monthly.

Here is where the real strategy kicks in. If they agree to suspend childbearing for the first two years, they accumulate serious capital. With a monthly inflow of around 300k, they generate 3.6 million in a year and 7.2 million over two years. Even if we account for a realistic expenditure of 5 million naira for living costs during that period, they are left with a solid savings reserve of 2.2 million naira before their first child even arrives. With that capital, they can diversify further into agriculture like poultry or pig farming. In five years, a family operating on this model will have absolutely no issue affording protein or maintaining a good standard of living.

Success relies on choosing an industrious (not our online feminist and woke ladies) supportive partner and adhering to strict strategic financial planning.

I honestly don't think I need to respond to @SIRTee15 again cos, you've said it all. I'm sincerely and honestly tired of arguing or making people to see or understand some strategic ways to get some things done.

SIRTee15:
@SpencerForbes, @truthhurts2

pls I beg u in the name of whatever u worship, go back and read what Kobojunkie wrote, then do more research on the impact of balanced diet on cognitive development.
As adults if u have given up on yourself, fine: but don't rub it on your kids. children need regular consumption of protein, milk, fruits and vegetables for proper brain development.

If u noticed, children from poor homes no longer do well on test scores in schools in naija. check admissions into competitive courses like medicine, Law....they are dominated by kids from rich homes. Its not connection, its difference in cognitive development as a result of nutrition.

One of u even said u dont need to eat fruits everyday. That's a bad advice.
pls give your kids milk, vegetables and fruits everyday and do not deny them protein.

In the uk, if they check the lunchbox of your kids in school and its devoid of fruits and vegetables, the school will write a very nasty letter to you as a parent.

Those two monica you mentioned.

I had to first of all blocked them when i clicked on this thread for my sanity. I am still scanning for others to block as well.

Thomas1186:
PLS I NEED URGENT ADVISE AND SOLUTION!

Each time our marriage breaks, my business gets stuck and all manners of evils happen to me at the same time.

We did a couple of business together before she suddenly became attractive to me one day when I saw her. I wooed her and we dated for just 2 months and got married the third month.

Go to Mountain of Fire Ministries, for your own good o. I avoid anything White Garment. Before marrying a woman, dig deep into her social media pages. How can you marry someone who lies?

Aceed:
45k in 2016 is about $180 in 2016 which is almost 300k in 2025, using the current exchange rate

be realistic

During that 2016 you know a bag of cement was around 1900 - 2400 naira so how many bag do you think I will be able to get then 20bags abi that means I will not remove anything from my salary but today 300k as salary will give you 30 bags of cement

ibechris:
At least I can feed u comfortably that I am very sure.

What u understand,u don't understand.

Don't force yourself.

You when dey earn 200k can feed me when you never feed yourself.
I no wan banter with you cos I don't earn in Naira, your one month earning I might make in some hours.
Where you power stop na there some people own start.

bejick:
You when dey earn 200k can feed me when you never feed yourself.
I no wan banter with you cos I don't earn in Naira, your one month earning I might make in some hours.
Where you power stop na there some people own start.

Poor man wey dey advice rich man.

I think u should advice yourself and stop being petty.
When it comes to money,una go come out like ants given unsolicited advice here and there...man,it is time to advice yourself out of poverty.

Yes,I can feed u comfortably,take that home. Tell ur friends I said so.

Babaibe:
Initially, I decided to ignore your foolish comment. But you know what people like you that come here to brag and jump to debate without careful reasoning are the most miserable.You painted Nigeria as hell when you have never stayed one day abroad. A man earning 200k is making unreasonable justification for his unreasonable spending. Yet someone like you is jamming hand for him when I am sure you dont have a million in your account. Are people not surviving with 150k salary or less. Yes, we know times are hard but not for to tell us you are spending 1.2m on food stuff and nannies, then your family must have their pots in shoprite . Oga I am happy for those who hustle legally, if your job pays 200kmonthly which translate to 2.4m, and your side hustle pay 57.6m annually. Then quite the job and face the hustle, at least you can double your income to 120 million annually except if the hustle is to steal fund that belong to the government using that same office like people working at Inland revenue.

U are just paind and unfortunately uncomfortable.

Dirty soul.

geoworldedu:
Some people's happiness is tied to having children. Your post is semi okay until I read the part about frustrating the government's effort. Lol, like is it the government who is frustrating our efforts through inflation or another one?

You extremely high reproductive rate is frustrating government efforts. I said it because I know.

ibedun:
You extremely high reproductive rate is frustrating government efforts. I said it because I know.

Which plan government has for people in 1960 when population hasn't come up to this?
Better don't receive yourself, govt don't have you in its plan.

Nice2023:
Poverty mindset.

U have a long way to go in life.

and you delusional if you can't accept facts starting you in the face

Nice2023:
U are just paind and unfortunately uncomfortable.

Dirty soul.

Back to the sender.Truth is bitter.People like you are naija problem.Wealth without hard work