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advanceDNA:
in Iran ...someone woke up and updated the a marriageable age for girls to 9 years old......see ehn, we humans know the right thing...we just want to do evil....

Some pple sat down and did research about on the impact of early sexual exposure which made them establish 18 years as legal age of consent....
There was a time alcohol drinking age was 18, later it was moved to 21..na research

...some pple are exposed to drinking as early as 5 ears old....because the effect is not immediately visible doesn't mean this things doesn't impact the mind and body in some way
.... But una too dey carnally and lustful driven ..... So Na only physical outlook una dey see

At 16, my friends and I were sexually active. We were adolescents with the sexual energy of men. Some decided to use it and some didn't. Same is happening with a lot of 16 year old young men right now. So take your high moral ground and stick it up your behind.

ashawopikin:
the law is not emotional.how do u convince a judge that a minor seduced you? Eveñif it's the, it's still a crime.

So there you have it. You were wrong - a minor CAN'T statutorily rape another minor!

kingthreat:
At 16, my friends and I were sexually active. We were adolescents with the sexual energy of men. Some decided to use it and some didn't. Same is happening with a lot of 16 year old young men right now. So take your high moral ground and stick it up your behind.

😆There is no "decided", they bleep anytime they see a chance!

Kukutente23:
I believe you should know that being good in bed means ability to satisfy one's partner sexually.
I don't know what you mean by I'm carnally minded. I assume we're having an adult conversation on sex and sexuality. I don't know if there's a spiritual angle you're looking to bring in but sexual activity is basically a carnal act.
Have you seen the video? She's being in the school for about a year. Do you mean this guy just started having sex last year? I don't think so.
You need to carry out proper research on this subject. The age of consent and maturity are social and legal construct not based on research. It was once fixed at 12 even in Western countries. A 12 year old child should be sexually mature in the physical sense. The fear there is that they shouldn't be taken advantage of since they do not have full gasp of the social and potential physiological implications. In this case, the debate is not about the social and physiological implications since it's obvious the young man is not doing it under duress nor is the lady in question unaware of such implications. Minus the age of consent, this will definitely qualify as consensual. The big question mark is the relative position of the two individuals involved since one has a coercive and administrative power over the other. If we're to go by psychological research, the age of full readiness for sex and its ramifications should be between 25-32 years.
Human psychology is fluid and can't be fixed based on age. The age factor is just used as a baseline to protect the younger ones.
There's no human knowledge that has ever put the age of puberty at 9

Well-said

These are South Africans, I can see from their faces.
She must serve the right punishment....same goes for randy lecturers.

advanceDNA:
u are carnally minded means u are only viewing this issue from an animal point of view .. we are humans..... that's why we have rules of inappropriateness, ethics, morals, and of course legality about such matters

lol... u are the one that needs proper research.....social and legal constructs are also research driven to begin with...

so how did u think they arrived at 18?? U think they just did so because they felt like protecting kids...?? How did they arrive at kids needing protection after u have established they are mature .....Baba, please go and read clinical psychology journal on this issue and see how they are used to established law in the west....

.......It's research that is used in other spheres of society... For example..a chemical used in preservation and coloring thats classified as food grade many years ago may now be classed as illegal this year with new research outcomes.....


This is funny....so why are u looking at the issue from an animalistic POV alone, when maturity should be viewed from mental and bodily maturity altogether....??

U keep trying to justify sex btw a boy and and an adult woman as just sex btw animals and therefore no biggie....... Yet u agree laws are made because pple can take advantage of them....
So I ask?? Is it not just sex the two wants?? What do u now agree that one can take advantage of the other when u also feel both a matured for sex??
Why is the fear that they can be taken advantage of still there??

Baba...It's because these children only appear bodily mature but are in many ways still a minor in the mind which is what makes us who we are........they are not mentally matured enough to under the full implication of their actions....
For example....research shows that Children that learn sex from movies or porn0graphy are only driven by impulse to act out what they've seen....but because movies never portray the use of protection, hardly ever show pple get pregnant or have herpes or HIv, and other negative outcomes from reckless sex engagement ....these children are never experienced enough to consent .....

that's the thing...u don't even have knowledge on how pple can be a willing participant in sex yet be under duress....u are claiming obvious from a video....
If this happened btw the teacher and a 9 year old u will still see the same thing in the video ...because sex is a pleasure act that most pple need discipline to resist even as adult.....so it makes the matter worse that an over 30 year old adult is doing such with a boy.....
U can't conclude there anything including from the video u watched....


it will not fly as consensual because power imbalance is involved in this case and that's what pple like u with only animalistic view of sex don't see

it is not just a baseline....it is arrived at considering both mental and bodily maturity which cannot be separated and functions together in a person....



The muslims and Arabs beg to differ....just as u are trying to carnally present maturity to be a matter of what u see........the Muslims also put theirs at 9 since many children start growing pubic hair and even start menstruating around that age ...
.infact...a 6 year old has gotten pregnant and delivered a child before....

Baba...I notice u keep trying to down play the reason behind establishment consent age at 18. U keep making it look like something that's done just for protection if these minors but it doesn't mean they are not ready to be fvcked..

but I ask u again....why do these children need to be protected if they are ready for sex and sex is what the adults want from them..??

If u see your 15 year son doing this same thing to a gay man of 33 years....I'm sure u will scream that the man must manipulated and groomed him.....

Well even in sociology man is regarded as an higher animal.

You miss the point. As I've told you, the age of consent is not scientific or based on research as you claimed. You have Google on your phone. Use it. It was 12 at a point before climbing to 14, 16 and some countries like Cameroun put it at 21 presently. The changes were not based on research but the work of social activists and lobby groups like the feminist movement.

The present age of 18 is due to such activism. So countries like UK have age of consent as 16 (which means if it was UK, what happened here can't be termed sexual abuse or statutory rape) , while countries like France set it to 18. The fact that there's no universally adopted age shows you that it is not scientific or research based but based on social construct and nuances about protection of the child.
Again, there's a wide boundary between legality and morality.

Morality is highly subjective. Some people frowned at Pa Ned marrying Regina while for her and her family, they felt it was better for her to marry a rich, old man than gallivanting around town Ruth a young man in her age grade. Today she's claiming that he took advantage of her innocence to introduce her to drugs. I've not seen any police march on him considering the difference in age, claims and counter claims flying around but everyone can clearly see that even at 25 abi na 24, she's clearly not emotionally and psychologically ripe for marriage.

What you still do not understand about my point is that while I agree that there's possibility of sexual exploitation, my point is that the laws governing such are not based on any biological or scientific research but nuances and prevailing opinions about such interactions. Another example. In the UK, a doctor having sexual relationships with a patient can fetch him a loss of his licence. No such condition exists in Nigeria except in cases of mental sickness. It is inappropriate for a doctor to propose a date to a patient in the UK.

Nothing of such exists here in Nigeria. So do you now say UK are more morally upright and conservative than Nigeria? Is their decision on doctor-patient relationship based on any scientific research?

I've pointed out that emotional maturity is not age based as well. In fact, it is believed that the human brain is fully developed between 25-32 years yet the age of consent is 18.

If I have a 15 year old son doing this with a 33 year old man (God forbid) I'll take action against the man and my son cause I'll have imbibed in him lessons on sexual relationships which I expect him to abide with.

Now let me ask you since you believe the age of consent cures all ill. If your 18 year old son who is at age of consent is seen in sexual intercourse with a 35 year old man. Will you accept it as two consenting adults doing what they have the right to do?

Well, that's

SpencerForbes:
I seriously doubt that angle. I think the power dynamic is actually the opposite way round!
The boy has significantly less to lose (reputation, career, status) compared to the teacher. This means she has to be the one constantly funding or supporting him just to ensure he keeps their secret locked down.

Secondly, since the teacher is reportedly based in the USA, I genuinely wonder what the boy, operating locally (I assume), could possibly offer her that would be so valuable it would completely becloud her sense of reason and self-preservation.

Well, that's another angle given her status supposedly...but the Nigerian context still stands that teenage boys get into amorous relationship with older women due to money.
The yahoo boys are a prime example. What they have in terms of money the children of the rich class also have
Let's get her own story first

Morizo:
This is where the world is coasting now esp with this generation of GenZ. The so called boy has been doing this before he was 14 given his confidence and handling skills. He might have been the one who approached the teacher and fell for his handsomeness and courage to approach her. He's mature enough to handle his own decisions and the consequences thereafter. I can bet you he's a very rich kid and the teacher has been getting good money from him given the way teachers salaries are handled in some African countries

This is not to excuse the dumb teacher from her own blames too cos she should have drawn a boundary that would not give kids the confidence to encroachecen if she's sex starved or a money longer. She might go to jail depending on the laws of Zimbabwe regarding such issues. No law, no punishment

A teacher's authority makes any relationship with a student exploitative, regardless of who initiated it. A minor cannot give free consent in that dynamic. Confidence or wealth doesn't change that—the adult is always responsible for maintaining the boundary. The law exists to protect children from this exact abuse of power.

It can be emphatically stated that the video was recorded with the consent of the duo citing the position of the camera.

Consent of who? Surely with consent of the rapist. A minor cannot give consent.

CJStarz:
No female teacher in Nigeria will ever condescend so low.

Where were u when a JSS 3 students impregnated a corps member in 2012 or 2013?

Dpsychologist:
A teacher's authority makes any relationship with a student exploitative, regardless of who initiated it. A minor cannot give free consent in that dynamic. Confidence or wealth doesn't change that—the adult is always responsible for maintaining the boundary. The law exists to protect children from this exact abuse of power.

He's not a child or a minor

Did you watch the video?

Dpsychologist:
An abused person can appear enthusiastic, even dominant, within the dynamic their abuser has constructed. That does not mean the relationship is consensual, ethical, or legal. Grooming works by making the victim feel complicit, special, or "in control" as part of the manipulation. The teacher, as the adult and authority figure, created the context and set the stage. The student is acting within a scenario designed and permitted by the abuser.

This is why the law focuses on the position of the adult, not the behavior of the child. A 16-year-old is legally and developmentally incapable of consenting to a sexual relationship with their teacher period. Their physical actions do not change the fundamental power imbalance, breach of trust, or criminal liability of the adult involved.

To claim the boy wasn't victimized because of how he participated is to fundamentally misunderstand how predation, especially of minors, actually works.

Stop bringing law when we're talking about reality.

Law has a lot to do with logic and argument, are logic and arguments actually portray reality?

"By law" that something is like this by law doesn't mean it is what it is in the real world. Law is just a conconcion made by man to guide man.

Have you not seen where the culprit goes free and the innocent goes in to languish in detention in law?

Law is not a reality, it's just a logic.

Abuse keh 😂,Abi una no see how him dey handle the woman?

We4all:
A 16 year old boy is old enough to reject the advances of his teacher. Physically, he is even stronger and from the video, he wasn't raped.

However, people tend to raise alarm if an older man sleeps with a teenage girl because they mostly do it forcefully; even threating them with death. So, comparing both scenarios is absurd!

Which forcefully? It's as if you have not had encounters with these small girls before. I was 24 and a 15 year old smallie wouldn't let me be until people around noticed.

DiarisGodoo:
So there you have it. You were wrong - a minor CAN'T statutorily rape another minor!

all in all its still a crime, if not, minors will be sleeping with each other with reckless abandon, consentual or not, it's still a crime. Na Juventus detention straight

Obaaderemi2:
Which forcefully? It's as if you have not had encounters with these small girls before. I was 24 and a 15 year old smallie wouldn't let me be until people around noticed.

No 15 year old smallie will go close to a 24 year old unless you give her greenlight. You were probably too free with her, and she misunderstood your intentions.

ashawopikin:
all in all its still a crime, if not, minors will be sleeping with each other with reckless abandon, consentual or not, it's still a crime. Na Juventus detention straight

U wrong.
Consensual s'ex between two minors is not a crime. If it is not consensual then it is rape, NOT statutory rape.

We4all:
No 15 year old smallie will go close to a 24 year old unless you give her greenlight. You were probably too free with her, and she misunderstood your intentions.

Greenlight ke? People noticed her movements towards me and asked if I was blind and didn't notice what she was doing. She took advantage of the fact that our families were close. Later she confessed to me that she had been exposed to porn by her friends. Bro, some of these young girls have urges higher than their ages

Age of consent in Zimbabwe is 16? Why is this here if not for the boy to brag? They were in a relationship if so. Nairaland just used the age difference and sex video to create “eNgaGemEnT.” Useless hypocritical platform.

Despite the age of consent, if that was a reverse case, we wouldn’t hear the end of it. Sex is a huge distraction and temporary madness that humans are cursed with.

QuinQ:
U wrong.
Consensual s'ex between two minors is not a crime. If it is not consensual then it is rape, NOT statutory rape.

Says who? Under the criminal code, and the child right as as amended, except you are under 14, if u as a minor, had sex with another minor, with or without "consent" it's a crime. Oga

ashawopikin:
Says who? Under the criminal code, and the child right as as amended, except you are under 14, if u as a minor, had sex with another minor, with or without "consent" it's a crime. Oga

What sort of yeye "crime"? As amended what? Have you EVER heard of consensual sex between two minors come close to being prosecuted in Nigeria?
Ever hesrd of Romeo & Juliet laws? Most statutes criminalizing underage sex are going to specify a minimum age for a perpetrator or a maximum age difference between the parties.

Toymax88:
Where were u when a JSS 3 students impregnated a corps member in 2012 or 2013?

I dey Sambisa forest 🤣
No light, no TV, no network there, only Boko boys

QuinQ:
What sort of yeye "crime"? As amended what? Have you EVER heard of consensual sex between two minors come close to being prosecuted in Nigeria?
Ever hesrd of Romeo & Juliet laws? Most statutes criminalizing underage sex are going to specify a minimum age for a perpetrator or a maximum age difference between the parties.

oga dey there, all these ones no concern judge

That woman should be released abeg. The boy enjoyed himself. He knew what he was doing and she never abused him

ashawopikin:
oga dey there, all these ones no concern judge

Point is, it has never happened in Nigeria and will never happen in Nigeria! Which is equivalent to there beibg no such law!

QuinQ:
Point is, it has never happened in Nigeria and will never happen in Nigeria! Which is equivalent to there beibg no such law!

how did u know it has never happened in Nigeria? U dey go court?

ashawopikin:
how did u know it has never happened in Nigeria? U dey go court?

Because it'll be reported by the papers and Google search will find it

Azazyel:
That woman should be released abeg. The boy enjoyed himself. He knew what he was doing and she never abused him

Boy wey don dey patronize olosho since. The woman only save am money

QuinQ:
Because it'll be reported by the papers and Google search will find it

it will be great if you take out time out of your busy schedule and and go to court session once in a while to experience things first hand. I have learned through experience, not to believe the so called press all the time

ashawopikin:
it will be great if you take out time out of your busy schedule and and go to court session once in a while to experience things first hand. I have learned through experience, not to believe the so called press all the time

I actually do. I don't see any parade of women accused of sexuallly molesting boys