₦airaland Forum

QuinQ:
It is NOT jealousy against anybody, it is a just that Soyinka is not in the same league as Achebe when it came to writing

I never mentioned anyone's name o.
But as you don mention name make I answer you.

Yes He is not in the same league with him.

That's why he got the the Prize

Which other books did Achebe write that is popular besides "Things Fall Apart" ?

The Nobel Prize organisers must have been bribed by Soyinka abi,

The same jealousy blood that runs in you guys runs in Achebe's so, he went to his grave with grudges against Soyinka as if Soyinka chose himself.

Go and Rest guy

bobogogo:
it was a set up.
they were envious of vatsa.
that envy has made the military a lame duck.
the best officers are not promoted and allowed to lead.

To execute a coup you must have money . Vatsa gave one of the ringleaders some serious money for "farming" during that period . That was what nailed his coffin .

QuinQ:
It is NOT jealousy against anybody, it is a just that Soyinka is not in the same league as Achebe when it came to writing

Oga you go explain tired and I know you are still feeling the pain of Soyinka Nobel laureate award.It is a pity you can not rewrite history and non of your explanations can change it...Respect to Soyinka and Achebe

Kog45:
Una don start with una rubbish,outside world know who is who between Achebe and Soyinka,so leave emotion out of it,imagine Soyinka won Nobel laureate cuz of activism not cuz he was a good writer.

Exactly. If MNK were a writer he'd win one b4 Adichie. Blame Alfred Nobel who set up criteria for the Prize

Shikena:
Read up your history. Azikiwe was supported to the end by several Yorubas through the crisis. Even his NPP in the 2nd republic was backed by several Yorubas.

Learn to go beyond grandma tales so you can make better judgment. Awolowo's decision is not Yoruba decision, there were other equally strong leaders and they did not always agree.

That's why I said allegedly

ppogba:
We are used to your changing narratives in Nigeria. You cannot succeed with this narrative concerning Nobel.

Allow Achebe to rest this afternoon.

StoryHaven:
I never mentioned anyone's name o.
But as you don mention name make I answer you.

Yes He is not in the same league with him.

That's why he got the the Prize

Kog45:
Oga you go explain tired and I know you are still feeling the pain of Soyinka Nobel laureate award.It is a pity you can not rewrite history and non of your explanations can change it...Respect to Soyinka and Achebe

See below..
Please try not to mention Achebe and Soyinka in same sentence when it comes to purely writing

And Soyinka later worked for IBB as Chairman of FRSC😂😂

This is when we have serious and confirm activist unlike yesufu,Adeyanju , sowore and co

Love800:
Why was a poet executed?
What happened!

An inconvenient waste of space.

BigIyanga:
And Soyinka later worked for IBB as Chairman of FRSC😂😂

And Obi worked for Abacha at NPA

PureSperm:
That was when true friendship was still the bedrock of a functional Nigeria

How we got it all wrong is what I'm yet to fathom.

There was never a functional Nigeria

Love800:
Why was a poet executed?
What happened!

he was an officer and a close alley to babagida, he was accused of planning a coup against his friend.

he was also a poet who wrote many primary school rhythms

QuinQ:
If he were a writer, he definitely would be considered before Adichie - it is part of the criterea set by the founder of the prize

rest, no Ibo person will win Nobel prize till eternity

PureSperm:
That was when true friendship was still the bedrock of a functional Nigeria

How we got it all wrong is what I'm yet to fathom.

Ask jagaban, the number one modaru of our era. He caused all these nonsense in Lagos, who was he before 1999? He was nobody as Lagos was peacefully cohabiting. Lagos was the capital and the seat of the intellectuals , just the way Abuja is today. Everyone from all the regions was eager to come here and live. Sadly, Prof Soyinka allowed tinubu to manipulate him and he began to take sides.

Airlord2030:
rest, no Ibo person will win Nobel prize till eternity

How is that my problem?
How about Fulani? Will Fulani win?
Hausa nko?
Maybe Bwala will win😅

1972xy:
Mamman Vatsa was a victim of hatred for rhe Middle belt . They saw his as a threat.

The only valid post here. From your moniker, you really knew what happened in that era. IBB set vasta up. He was his childhood friend and very intelligent. He was much more brave as well so IBB saw him as a threat. There was an unconfirmed information that IBB was also eyeing Vasta's pretty wife. He was a flirt military officer wey no dey take eye commot for women. He was alleged to have also slept with Buhari's wife while the latter was in prison. Buhari had to divorce her after his release. Same IBB snatched maryam from Bongo Sikwe.

Today Babangida is old, weak and sick. Wheel-chair bound with the angel of death constantly at his stride, not sure when he'll get the final call.
If you'd ask IBB, what has been his greatest regreat, one would surely stand out; the k#l@ing of Vatsa.
Men are mere mortals, Legacy is Immortal...how do you want to be remembered?

When he passed death sentence on his best friend, he thought his would never come.

Vats

We4all:
Let's be honest, though IBB ain't no saint, Mamman Vatsa was a traitor for planning a coup again IBB, his best friend which could have gotten him executed.

And knowing that the penalty for coup was death, Vatsa's execution was justified. Unless he was set up and innocent of the charges. But findings proved that he was guilty as charged.

Vatsa was set up by some powerful people around IBB
He was IBB's best Man during his Wedding to Mariam.

His protection for the Christians on the North cost his life

IBB was so evil that he didn't change his mind.

The

matify83:
The coup was not only planned but executed leading to the deaths of several soldiers at Dodan barracks including the ADC to Gen. Babangida, Col. U. K Bello.

Update

Sorry I goofed on this one. I had a slight mix-up in the names and date.

Vatsa was from the An earlier coup on Babangida which was foiled at the planning stage.

Remembered that it would have been the bloodied coup in Nigeria if it had achieved kinetics as the Air Force had significant roles to play in it.

We lost a generation of our best fighter pilots to that coup.

Below: Photo collage of Mamman Vatsa

UK Belo was killed in the Gideon Orkar coup not the Maman Vasta rumored coup

aribisala0:
What did the findings prove ?

Out of interest were you alive then?

That is why we have Nigerian history. Were you alive during the civil war?

We4all:
That is why we have Nigerian history. Were you alive during the civil war?

I was

Do we have Nigerian history

Kindly tell me what exactly your sources tell you Vatsa did

aribisala0:
I was

Lol...Congrats to you.

We4all:
Lol...Congrats to you.

What was the finding against Vatsa

What did he do?

aribisala0:
What was the finding against Vatsa

What did he do?

Huh! Just a little Google search will provide all your answers.

We4all:
Huh! Just a little Google search will provide all your answers.

I believe nothing was found again him to justify his execution so maybe you know more and can educate me

If you don't know admit it

But don't go around making baseless claims as if you are a witness

aribisala0:
I believe nothing was found again him to justify his execution so maybe you know more and can educate me

If you don't know admit it

But don't go around making baseless claims as if you are a witness

Are you trying to say there was no coup plot? Then if he was innocent, why did IBB set him up since they were best friends?

We4all:
Are you trying to say there was no coup plot? Then if he was innocent, why did IBB set him up since they were best friends?

See you need to focus and be logical not emotional

I am not saying anything just clarification of what you said with great certainty
You said

Findings proved......
Once again

What did the Tribunal find against him
E.g Vatsa planned a coup with Mr X in such place or around such time

Or any other finding

Do you even know what he was convicted of?

aribisala0:
See you need to focus and be logical not emotional

I am not saying anything just clarification of what you said with great certainty
You said

Findings proved......
Once again

What did the Tribunal find against him
E.g Vatsa planned a coup with Mr X in such place or around such time

Or any other finding

Do you even know what he was convicted of?

Conspiracy to commit treason. He was indicted for being part of a conspiracy to overthrow the government of IBB.

PureSperm:
That was when true friendship was still the bedrock of a functional Nigeria

How we got it all wrong is what I'm yet to fathom.

Friendship built on deceptive and crooked foundation. The functional Nigeria you talked about only looked that way because it was in its prime when the lies of the fellowship laid down by the colonial masters still held sway the minds of the people.

It was just a matter of time that it would collapse, and it sure did.
The scattered Nigeria you now see today is the debris and ruins of that wishful and seemingly working Nigeria of the past that you saw.

It should never had been!