₦airaland Forum

AlphaTaikun:
Indeed, the Car-T method of cancer treatment was used for her which itself is NOT "blood transfusion" in reality.

The main thrust of creating the thread is to share some of the alternative non-blood transfusion methods that have been available since the 1990s. I'm really surprised at the confirmation bias, and circular reasoning among a lot of uninformed posters here who think it's ONLY blood that you can medically use for transfusions. People have lost the urge to creatively read, take part in continuous education and understand situations through cognitive engagements.

If Erythropoietin (EPO) is readily available in that country (Nigeria), then that's OK. She can use that EPO as an alternative since it's one of several methods long recommended by her JW Church based off of the AWAKE magazine I read back in the 1990s. EPO is just one out of several forms of non-blood transfusions that doctors have recommended as alternatives.

Last but NOT least, I have NEVER been a member of JW neither am I a Christian BUT I know the JW adherents to be very educated folks who embrace modern scientific breakthroughs and good business ethics as seen in some of their AWAKE magazines that I still have in my home libraries since the 1990s. The JW folks indeed have a right of choice to choose what is BEST for them and do have a very STRONG point in the sense that improperly screened blood especially in developing countries and underdeveloped countries have led to the massive spread of HIV, Ebola, Marburg, Lassa Virus, hepatitis variants, and more.

GanagiBitrus:
I feel for those of them who still cling to such dogmatic beliefs at the risk of their lives.

Janosky:
Was the lady's treatment successful?
Yes, it did.

Did her doctor share your view?
No.
You are here expressing your bias.
I've met an elderly man (a Pentecostal) who had major surgery & his doctors followed the procedure that JWs preferred,he said feels rejuvenated aand healthier.
Oga,continue deceiving yourself.

GanagiBitrus:
Calm down Bro, let's be clear on this.
Are you saying no JW member has lost his life on account of refusing blood transfusion?

Did you even read the comment I quoted that claimed many JW members have covertly received blood transfusion & lived.

Your claim is not what the OP is talking about nau.
Him no share that kain news wey you wan hear about JWs.


OP is talking about successful surgery of a JW,through a remarkable feat of professional expertise.

Let's applaud this medical achievement.
Who knows,tomorrow it might benefit you & your loved ones.
I come in peace.

Janosky:
The folks here on this thread couldn't hide their bias & unreasonable sentiments in their hearts.

The medical team performed an outstanding feat without transfusion, worthy of commendation.

These folks don't appreciate the success of the medical team who respects the rights of his patient for a treatment she prefers.

But ,non of these folks want their own right to medical treatment to be infringed upon by their doctor or anyone.

If the medical team had done the procedure on their pastor,they would applaud him & say their deity did it,but because it's JW's treatment that was successful, they are expressing bias.
Hypocrites they are , I must say .

Janosky:
Your claim is not what the OP is talking about nau.

Him no share that kain news wey you wan hear about JWs.

OP is talking about successful surgery of a JW, through a remarkable feat of professional expertise.

Let's applaud this medical achievement.
Who knows,tomorrow it might benefit you & your loved ones.

I come in peace.

LordReed:
No it isn't. The scientists involved didn't create the therapy because of JW beliefs.

Thunderfayamods:
Obviously comprehension is a problem for you. Read my comment again.

Thunderfayamods:
And so? JW believes in science go and read Awake.
Their beliefs is one of the reasons why such a science fest is evolving.

Janosky:

Your claim is not what the OP is talking about nau.
Him no share that kain news wey you wan hear about JWs.


OP is talking about successful surgery of a JW,through a remarkable feat of professional expertise.

Let's applaud this medical achievement.
Who knows,tomorrow it might benefit you & your loved ones.
I come in peace.

bitbybit123:
Not only in USA, it can be done in Nigeria too, i have heard about those who did it in Nigeria before.

Hemanwel:
It's an autoimmune disorder, if I am correct. Doctors in the house, I lie??

Janosky:

Your claim is not what the OP is talking about nau.
Him no share that kain news wey you wan hear about JWs.


OP is talking about successful surgery of a JW,through a remarkable feat of professional expertise.

Let's applaud this medical achievement.
Who knows,tomorrow it might benefit you & your loved ones.
I come in peace.

grandstar:
Yes, we accept no transfusion treatments.

Some doctors said that should be the standard. Many patients who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses prefer they be treated without a transfusion of blood.

JuanDeDios:
Of course, that's the thing. During an argument, you select the cases that prove your point. Some people have recovered from illnesses (including cancer) without treatment at all. So no need for medical interventions, I guess.

Thunderfayamods:
And so? JW believes in science go and read Awake.
Their beliefs is one of the reasons why such a science fest is evolving.

bixton:
This can't be taken as blood transfusion since its still her own blood that was taken off her, re-engineered and put back into the body.

bitbybit123:
And a sister-in-law of mine took blood and still died. What about that and many like her?

jaephoenix:
Show me folks that recovered from cancers WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION. I'm waiting...

AlphaTaikun:
@dominique

I appreciate your pushing this important thread that I created to the NL front page. The new NL spam bot actually deleted the thread post yesterday which got me pissed off, BUT I was surprised to see just about I hour ago after I logged in that you had restored it and even moved it to the NL front page.


NOW, the main thrust of my posts on this thread and the other one is to simply share some of the non-blood transfusion methods that have been readily available since the 1990s that I'm aware of. BUT reading through this thread and the other one on the female shopper who is a JW member shows that a lot of posters are still highly ignorant about several alternatives to blood transfusions which doctors have long endorsed worldwide since the 1990s.

If one of the non-blood transfusion alternatives such as Erythropoietin (EPO) is readily available in Nigeria, then she can use that as an alternative since it's one of several methods recommended by her JW Church based off of the AWAKE magazine I read back in the 1990s. EPO is just one out of several forms of non-blood transfusions that doctors have recommended as alternatives.

Second, the JW folks have a right of choice and have a very STRONG point in the sense that improperly screened blood (especially in developing countries and underdeveloped countries) have led to the wide spread of HIV, hepatitis variants, Ebola, Lassa Virus, Marburg Virus, and other zoonotic diseases.

Cheers.

AlphaTaikun:
Indeed, the Car-T method of cancer treatment was used for her which itself is NOT "blood transfusion" in reality.

The main thrust of creating the thread is to share some of the alternative non-blood transfusion methods that have been available since the 1990s. I'm really surprised at the confirmation bias, and circular reasoning among a lot of uninformed posters here who think it's ONLY blood that you can medically use for transfusions. People have lost the urge to creatively read, take part in continuous education and understand situations through cognitive engagements.

If Erythropoietin (EPO) is readily available in that country (Nigeria), then that's OK. She can use that EPO as an alternative since it's one of several methods long recommended by her JW Church based off of the AWAKE magazine I read back in the 1990s. EPO is just one out of several forms of non-blood transfusions that doctors have recommended as alternatives.

Last but NOT least, I have NEVER been a member of JW neither am I a Christian BUT I know the JW adherents to be very educated folks who embrace modern scientific breakthroughs and good business ethics as seen in some of their AWAKE magazines that I still have in my home libraries since the 1990s. The JW folks indeed have a right of choice to choose what is BEST for them and do have a very STRONG point in the sense that improperly screened blood especially in developing countries and underdeveloped countries have led to the massive spread of HIV, Ebola, Marburg, Lassa Virus, hepatitis variants, and more.

Janosky:
The folks here on this thread couldn't hide their bias & unreasonable sentiments in their hearts.

The medical team performed an outstanding feat without transfusion, worthy of commendation.
These folks don't appreciate the success of the medical team who respects the rights of his patient for a treatment she prefers.
But ,non of these folks want their own right to medical treatment to be infringed upon by their doctor or anyone.
If the medical team had done the procedure on their pastor,they would applaud him & say their deity did it,but because it's JW's treatment that was successful, they are expressing bias.
Hypocrites they are , I must say .

Janosky:
Was the lady's treatment successful?
Yes, it did.

Did her doctor share your view?
No.
You are here expressing your bias.
I've met an elderly man (a Pentecostal) who had major surgery & his doctors followed the procedure that JWs preferred,he said feels rejuvenated aand healthier.
Oga,continue deceiving yourself.

GanagiBitrus:
Calm down Bro, let's be clear on this.
Are you saying no JW member has lost his life on account of refusing blood transfusion?

Did you even read the comment I quoted that claimed many JW members have covertly received blood transfusion & lived.

LordReed:
Was it your ghost that wrote this?



You clearly claimed that their beliefs is one of the reasons why such a science feat is occurring so how is my comprehension wrong?

LordReed:
Was it your ghost that wrote this?



You clearly claimed that their beliefs is one of the reasons why such a science feat is occurring so how is my comprehension wrong?

Thunderfayamods:
So "one of the reasons" is the same thing as "the reason". Now check if your comprehension is okay?

LordReed:
It is not one of the reasons. It is NO PART of the reason.

jaephoenix:
Really? So they now believe in evolution?

LordReed:
It is not one of the reasons. It is NO PART of the reason.

GanagiBitrus:
Calm down Bro, let's be clear on this.
Are you saying no JW member has lost his life on account of refusing blood transfusion?

Did you even read the comment I quoted that claimed many JW members have covertly received blood transfusion & lived.

jaephoenix:
Watch him dodge your question now... that's their life