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Just make sure to stay alive till then, I will quote you exactly on 8-12-2028 to ask you how far?

Tonnyray:
Biya will not last the next 3 years.
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Sonnobax15:

Coup isn't the way forward ..

In as much as we all want a better Africa,but even as little as some of us were during the Abacha regime,at least,I witnessed how jubilations filled up the entire country when the news of his Demise broke out.

What should bother you Most The Military have seen the democratic govt are not better than how they rule

the only difference is the constitutional right, the civilian are far worst, corrupt and power drunk
What we have in africa is not democracy, it is rulership

franvincoop:
Dey play....
That was what some people said 25 years ago.
Infact, when he was sick and rumours were flying left and right that he was dead, Biya said and I quote " I give a RDV of 20 years for those wishing me dead"
Biya will finish this 7 years, note this down.
His family members are known to live well beyond 100 years and if you add his trimestrial medical trips to Switzerland for exchange transfusion and organ transplant, then you should know that Biya will still win 2032 Presidential elections in Cameroon and live beyond that mandate.

I doubt that Biya would be good for another transplant. But the fact is, man is over 90.

I can point to people in my extended family who lived to be a hundred and then there are other members who didn't make it.

nairalanda1:
I don't like the way our rulers are ruling us, but at least under democracy, I get chance to chase them out with my vote in 2027.

Even 2023, if not that atiku and obi were not united, apc and tinubu would have been kicked out.

I know, corruption, but army rule won't change anything. The same corruption under democracy always continues under army rule. To say nothing of lack of freedom of speech, and bad economic policies

I can remember when they were saying we had to remove Shagari in 1983 because corruption and bad economy. Not only did the economy get worse , but so did the corruption. By 1988 we were begining to cry for Democratic rule self.

Plus an army that is now spending time between leadership and fighting boko and bandits is a distracted army. The crisis may even get worse.

I respect your opinion, but 1000 Atiku and Obi amalgamation can not unsit Tinubu. What make them failed in 2023 will still resulted to the failure in 2027. Tinubu is going out for manipulation not our vote. Moreover, even if Atiku or Obi emerged the situation will get more worse. I totally lose faith in Democratic government as my hope in Buhari administration to do better regards to his past record of War Against Indiscipline. Tinubu the regards as one of the gods father we believed he will be able to align well with all stakeholders for Nigeria growth but worst is the case.

Meanwhile, the number of people stealing is not that much in military administration but in Civilian government country loot will be distributed among all arms of government. See how Tinubu holding citizens dry (by removing subsidy and enforce high TAX) to see more money to loot.

My brother, I support military government to stabilise things

Lanre1st:
I respect your opinion, but 1000 Atiku and Obi amalgamation can not unsit Tinubu. What make them failed in 2023 will still resulted to the failure in 2027. Tinubu is going out for manipulation not our vote. Moreover, even if Atiku or Obi emerged the situation will get more worse. I totally lose faith in Democratic government as my hope in Buhari administration to do better regards to his past record of War Against Indiscipline. Tinubu the regards as one of the gods father we believed he will be able to align well with all stakeholders for Nigeria growth but worst is the case.

Meanwhile, the number of people stealing is not that much in military administration but in Civilian government country loot will be distributed among all arms of government. See how Tinubu holding citizens dry (by removing subsidy and enforce high TAX) to see more money to loot.

My brother, I support military government to stabilise things

The same number of thieves and stealing in army rule is very similar to civillan rule.

Like I said, Nigeria needs to stop sharing cake and start producing.

And atiku and obi united would have chased out tinubu. You sound like the apc supporters in 2014 who assumed pdp would manipulate the election as usual..until the results came out

EdiskyHarry:
Democracy remains the best system of government. But in Africa, the worst military dictator is far better than the best democratic president.

Atleast you can organise protest freely, only in africa you see people wishing to live in cages with no freedom. You all are really dvmb.

mascot87:
Those that staged the coup should be arrested and the maximum punishment of dead sentence should be there destiny. No mercy

shebi una dey condemn una government. I hope we finish exmas well.

It seems you don't get my point.
"All" of Biya family members live to more than a hundred years.
It's not a matter of some, I repeat all of them, it's in their genes.
Don't tell me you don't know of any such families around you that always live long 99+ years, then add the long term ownership of the resources of a country to that family and you will get the answer on how long Biya still has left to live.
A son of a poor catechist ooo and he himself a seminarian who is one of the few people in this world to be both a Freemason and a Rosicrucian.
If I tell you that Popes have visited small Cameroon than Nigeria, will you ever believe? but Google is your friend.
Do you know who is Grand Master Fra' Giacomo Dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto?

nairalanda1:
I doubt that Biya would be good for another transplant. But the fact is, man is over 90.

I can point to people in my extended family who lived to be a hundred and then there are other members who didn't make it.

madridguy:
The Elite guard of the Benin republic army are currently protecting Talon and fighting to protect the regime.
By evening we will know if the coup was successful or not.
Fingers crossed!

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The coup won't be successful. Nigeria will never allow it

Quote me

Biodun556:
The coup won't be successful. Nigeria will never allow it

Quote me

I think it would be.

Grass always greener.

Also realize , and I know you are an apc supporter, that many people who support coup are really commenting on the bad government polices of the apc and the fact that the government is squeezing out the legit opposition.

I don't support coup, but I can understand that sentiment

reddingtonblack:
What should bother you Most The Military have seen the democratic govt are not better than how they rule

the only difference is the constitutional right, the civilian are far worst, corrupt and power drunk
What we have in africa is not democracy, it is rulership

Army rule, in my experience is rulership, only this time with a gun pointed at the populace and eroded freedoms.

This reminds me turkey foiled coup

Erdogan baba

mascot87:
Those that staged the coup should be arrested and the maximum punishment of dead sentence should be there destiny. No mercy

Why should they give them maximum punishment?

You think Benin is like Nigeria where there is tribalism and strong ethnic loyalty in face of misrule?

Beninoise wants freedom from aristocratic hew. Unlike Nigeria where support is based on supremacist ethno religious agenda.

In solidarity with the coupists!

seunmsg:
This is a good development. The coup must never be allowed to succeed. Enough of this nonsense in West Africa.

Oops!

You think Benin republic is like Nigeria where support is Based on ethnic loyalty. Despite the rubbish going on, you don't see anything wrong because leadership is superintended by your tribesman. So, you don't see anything wrong.

ODE to Beninoise People!

Firing squad for this animals after a quick trial, an example needs to be made and fast. I blame the weak response of Ecowas to the previous coups for this clowns seizing power. Bloody Lt seizing power like what development would a bloody Lt bring to a country,

Kewekubosineh:
Oops!

You think Benin republic is like Nigeria where support is Based on ethnic loyalty. Despite the rubbish going on, you don't see anything wrong because leadership is superintended by your tribesman. So, you don't see anything wrong.

ODE to Beninoise People!

lol. The coup has been foiled with most of the plotters arrested already.

Kewekubosineh:
Why should they give them maximum punishment?

You think Benin is like Nigeria where there is tribalism and strong ethnic loyalty in face of misrule?

Beninoise wants freedom from aristocratic hew. Unlike Nigeria where support is based on supremacist ethno religious agenda.

In solidarity with the coupists!

Benin gets some tribalism too.

But it is not as bad as Nigeria, because, like Tanzania, there is no dominant tribe.

Also coups don't bring freedom. We cried for.coup in Nigeria for the same reasons you cite in 1983. By 1993, the same issues of tribalism and corruption remained

Plus is it the same army you people abuse all day long for being inefficient and for being dominated by fulanis that will now give you good government?

Tinubu is.worse but at least there is a chance we can remove him in two years

Host78:
This shows who really own the country. It's not the president that's elected.

But the army.

The president is merely a face.

He's in power because the army allows him to rule. If a few high ranking army officers are not happy, the president can go at any time.

Now who are your top ranking officers in Nigerian army? How do you expect the president to fight their brothers the terrorists?

But the army commanders have to communicate, then all agree, with no one leaking the coup, which is extremely difficult. And the penalty for just being aware of a failed coup is DEATH!
The officers don't have to be high-ranking - Rawlings, Nzeogwu, etc led successful coups. Infact, coup is easier for direct commanders of the troops NOT the higher-ups.

QuinQ:
But the army commanders have to communicate, then all agree, with no one leaking the coup, which is extremely difficult. And the penalty for being aware of a coup is DEATH!
The officers don't have to be high-ranking - Rawlings, Nzeogwu, etc led successful coups. Infact, coup is easier for direct commanders of the troops NOT the higher-ups.

Muritala, buhari, ibb and abacha would like to disagree with you

nairalanda1:
Muritala, buhari, ibb and abacha would like to disagree with you

They all either removed fellow soldiers from power, or they were brought in to run things, and were not the original perpetrators of the coup.
Example, say Gowon was brought in after Dimka coup

QuinQ:
They all either removed fellow soldiers from power, or they were brought in to run things, and were not the original perpetrators of the coup

They were.

It's only the coup of Jan 1966 that fits the description of ' not the original perpetrators of the coup'

Also buhari removed shagari and abacha removed the technically civillan Shonekan

FatimaAbubakar:
Na lie. The coup was successful. Talon is gone for good. The zoo is next.

Amen

Until the poorest ppl who inhabit Afrika which is the richest continent address their problems head-on rather than always seeking solutions given to them by non-Africans from somewhere else -- this cycle will never end.

Why won't the coup fouled when the coup plotters look confused and disorganized see their steal helmet like mama put of soup.

ceejay80s:
All these coup in Africa, e don reach time death sentence should be given to coup plotters

Condemn looters and corrupt institutions first

ceejay80s:
All these coup in Africa, e don reach time death sentence should be given to coup plotters

Côte D’Ivoire president alassane dramane ouattara is serving a fourth term despite the constitution not permitting it -- is that a coup?

what about Cameroon paul biya or Togo faure gnassingbé -- changing the constitution to become preseident for life, does that qualify as a coup or its has to be only by the military that can be designated a lable "coup d’état".

What about Politicians that loot the public treasury ?

ceejay80s:
All these coup in Africa, e don reach time death sentence should be given to coup plotters

nairalanda1:
They were.

It's only the coup of Jan 1966 that fits the description of ' not the original perpetrators of the coup'

Also buhari removed shagari and abacha removed the technically civillan Shonekan

Mention a coup that removed a sitting soldier-president present in the country that was led by generals

QuinQ:
Mention a coup that removed a sitting soldier-president present in the country that was led by generals

Buhari...removed by Abacha and IBB in 1985

And then Gowon...removed by Muritala, Obasanjo and Garba in 1975.

nairalanda1:
Buhari...removed by Abacha and IBB in 1985

And then Gowon...removed by Muritala, Obasanjo and Garba in 1975.

In both cases the president was NOT around. In Buhari's case even the second in command was also not around

nairalanda1:
Benin gets some tribalism too.

But it is not as bad as Nigeria, because, like Tanzania, there is no dominant tribe.

Also coups don't bring freedom. We cried for.coup in Nigeria for the same reasons you cite in 1983. By 1993, the same issues of tribalism and corruption remained

Plus is it the same army you people abuse all day long for being inefficient and for being dominated by fulanis that will now give you good government?

Tinubu is.worse but at least there is a chance we can remove him in two years

Hmmmm

Okay. If you say so.

But I know Nigeria is not progressing because of ethnic loyalty instead of patriotism.