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Dtruthspeaker:
Is bit coin real? No
Fela:
When someone give hin real salary to buy unreal money, abeg wetin hin dey find? Na nothing he dey find, na nothing hin go get e ooo..

Then you would Kon dey cry like this guy ooo
https://www.nairaland.com/3620519/beware-bitcoin-fraudster#53573291

Bitcoin is real just like your salary sent to your bank account when you see alert. You can covert it to cash just like I can convert my Bitcoin to cash also.
I can also relate examples of people whose money have been illegally withdrawn from their bank accounts. Does that mean the money in their bank accounts is not real?

Oshiomole was crying some days ago about how his money was illegally withdrawn. Does that make all of us stop using banking system and start stacking our cash at home.

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE PLEASE.

immaculatesense:
What was the basis of our discussion in the first place? Gambling.
Why deflect the discussion?

This is about what elders of the church of Christ concluded upon {Matthew 18:17} that gambling is not for the children of God so if you now insist on seeing a scripture where it's written word for word when no church support it then you are like the Jewish nation that rejected Christ and his Apostles because they can't see what they said written word for word in the Old Testament!🙂

immaculatesense:
For something to be called stealing, there must be the thief, the owner and the object, commodity or money.

All these was answered when you said "Tell me whose money I am stealing if I placed my bet on Manchester United to win today?"

And I answered "If you put ₦1k in the your box, do you get ₦100k? No.
So, if you bet putting down ₦1k that Man U. will win, and they win, is it not somebody's (Betnaija's) ₦99k that you have taken if they give you ₦₦100k?"

So, you see you have nothing to say but to keep repeating yourself

immaculatesense:
Bitcoin is real just like your salary sent to your bank account when you see alert. You can covert it to cash just like I can convert my Bitcoin to cash also.
I can also relate examples of people whose money have been illegally withdrawn from their bank accounts. Does that mean the money in their bank accounts is not real?

Oshiomole was crying some days ago about how his money was illegally withdrawn. Does that make all of us stop using banking system and start stacking our cash at home.

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE PLEASE.

See for your to use Bitcoin and salary together just shows how low you have fallen.

Wiki
Bitcoin is the first decentralized cryptocurrency

A cryptocurrency is a digital, currency.

And here you are calling air and software in a computer a real thing like thing you use to pay bus fare, and you say you are normal.

Then you compare with Oshiomhole whose real money was stolen, o boy stop embarrassing yourself

Jesus taught his disciples how to fish out unbelievers among them by saying:

“If your brother or sister in God’s family does something wrong, go and tell them what they did wrong. Do this when you are alone with them. If they listen to you, then you have helped them to be your brother or sister again. But if they refuse to listen, go to them again and take one or two people with you. Then there will be two or three people who will be able to tell all that happened. If they refuse to listen to them, tell the church. And if they refuse to listen to the church, treat them as you would treat someone who does not know God or who is a tax collector.” Matthew 18:15-17

The question any right thinking person should ask himself is:
"why should one of a member or some members of the church completely reject the counsel from the church?"

The answer is simple: they are insisting on seeing where such counsel is written word for word because there is no one who will boldly reject what is written in the Bible yet claiming he or she is a Bible believer back then.

So this idea of questioning the decision of the elders of the church didn't start today but Jesus has given us the right to remove such ones from our midst {Matthew 18:17 compare to 1Corinthans 5:13} therefore the children of God can know those within and those without!🙂

jiggyman:
What does bible say about david who took someone's wife?
What does bible say about Jacob who tricked his brother?

David's own son slept with his wives!

And for Jacob he was tricked by Laban also!

So you see, wife for wife and trick for trick.

89green:
Let me educate you ASAP

Allah, may He be exalted, describes the wine of the Hereafter as being different from the wine of this world. He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Round them will be passed a cup of pure wine —

46. White, delicious to the drinkers.

47. Neither will they have Ghoul (any kind of hurt, abdominal pain, headache, a sin) from that nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom”

[al-Saaffaat 37:45-47]

So Allah describes the wine of the Hereafter as:

1.white

2.delicious to the drinkers, unlike the wine of this world which is distasteful when drunk

3.having no “ghoul” (hurt, abdominal pain, headache, a sin) in it, which is what affects one who drinks it in this world, of headache, pain in the stomach and loss of reason. In Soorat al-Waaq’iah it says: “Wherefrom they will get neither any aching of the head” [56:19], i.e., they will not get a headache from it.

4.“nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom”, unlike the wine of this world which causes them to lose their minds.

See: Tafseer Soorat al-Saaffaat by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, p. 107-109.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baz (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The wine of the Hereafter is good, and does not cause any intoxication or harm. As for the wine of this world, it is harmful and causes intoxication. In other words, in the wine of the Hereafter there is no ghawl (intoxication) and the one who drinks it will not become intoxicated; it does not cause him to lose his mind and it does not cause physical harm. As for the wine of this world, it is harmful to mind and body alike. None of the harmful effects in the wine of this world will be found in the wine of the Hereafter. And Allah is the source of strength. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fatawa Ibn Baz, 23/62.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/127938/the-difference-between-the-wine-of-this-world-and-the-hereafter

Wine is an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice
Wine is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented grape juice, varying widely in style due to grape type, climate, and production, with common varieties including red, white, rosé, sparkling, and fortified, and it also refers to a compatibility layer for running Windows apps on Linux/macOS. Historically originating in the Caucasus, wine is a complex drink enjoyed globally, with different production methods affecting flavor and type.
You don even understand your Quran, Just as mentioned by the Quran of everlasting erection and sex with 72 virgins

osuofia2:
Wine is an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice
Wine is an alcoholic beverage made from fermented grape juice, varying widely in style due to grape type, climate, and production, with common varieties including red, white, rosé, sparkling, and fortified, and it also refers to a compatibility layer for running Windows apps on Linux/macOS. Historically originating in the Caucasus, wine is a complex drink enjoyed globally, with different production methods affecting flavor and type.
You don even understand your Quran, Just as mentioned by the Quran of everlasting erection and sex with 72 virgins

Sorry , read my response over and over again

If you want to divert let me know, I am ready to attend to your funny criticism

Maryiah:
Na why ur mouth be like dz. See ya mouth below
Cho cho cho talk bad about who came to save ya life.

Na so so lie lie as a Christian!

olabrad:
Jesus ended up by resurrecting from the dead and ascending into Heaven.

That's good luck.

Whenever people die it is always badluck! No good! When Adam sinned and your God said he would die was that also good luck? Death na death!

Minamed ended up by kpaing from food pois0ning.

All his children, except Fatima, kpaied in his life time!

His last surviving daughter, Fatima, was m0rdared in c0ld bl00d by her fellow Meuslims.

So, minamed left no single child to bear his name.

That's the definition of bad luck

Minamed is the ep1tome of bad luck.

Y@hweh has one begotten son Jesas!

But Jesas was Barren!

John the b@ptist was beheaded as a birthday gift!

Can you define some more badluck from your Bible?

miracle002:
But I have seen many Muslims gambling over and over again. They always come to play virtual

That does not erase the fact that Gambling is forbidden in Islam!

olabrad:
Isleam forbids gambling but approved child mairriage and mairrying family members!

Which is worse between gambling and incest?!

Isleam is a joke of a re1ligion!

Incest like in Genesis 38 story of Judar and Tamar ancestors of Jesus!

Or that of Lot and his daughters who were saved from sodomy but ended up in incest!

Yahweh is Good all the time!

89green:
Gambling is haram because Allah has forbidden it, and He rules as He wills.

The world is filled with different deities that adherents of such deities claims their own is the Almighty.
Apart from the books written and revered as SACRED is there any evidence that's logical or humane to ascertain which of these Gods is the true God?🤔

MaxInDHouse:
The world is filled with different deities that adherents of such deities claims their own is the Almighty.
Apart from the books written and revered as SACRED is there any evidence that's logical or humane to ascertain which of these Gods is the true God?🤔

You can always do a personal in depth research on your own, it may take time but do genuine research

89green:
You can always do a personal in depth research on your own, it may take time but do genuine research

Going by the research i made only one God makes sense to me and that's JEHOVAH the God of Jehovah's Witnesses!🤔

MaxInDHouse:
Going by the research i made only one God makes sense to me and that's JEHOVAH the God of Jehovah's Witnesses!🤔

Which means your previous comment is invalid. Next question bros

89green:
Which means your previous comment is invalid. Next question bros

What makes you think that Allah of the Quran is the true God?

@ 89green
Your comment regarding which one is the true God out of all the deities people are worshiping globally.

89green:
You can always do a personal in depth research on your own, it may take time but do genuine research

So have you done a genuine and personal in-depth research on your own regarding Allah of the Quran or you only stick to what is WRITTEN in the book of Muslims?

MaxInDHouse:
What makes you think that Allah of the Quran is the true God?

Whenever i see Muslims jumping into topics or questions asked regarding what the BIBLE says on issues it amuses me because i just don't know what correlation is between the Quran and the Bible!🙂

89green:
Gambling is haram because Allah has forbidden it, and He rules as He wills. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, al-Ansab [sacrifices for idols, etc.] and al-Azlam [arrows for seeking luck or decision] are an abomination of Shaytan’s handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Shaytan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drink) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from al-salah (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?” [al-Maidah Quran 5:90-91]

Question answered perfectly

MaxInDHouse:
This is why STUDYING the Bible matters not just reading it {Psalms 1:1-3} there are some people God chose to TEACH others because such ones are wise and can discern the principle behind the laws God gave His worshipers! Nehemiah 8:8

There is just one single thing that brings all what God condemned together it's called "POLITICS"

The world in general has a definition for POLITICS but according to God's word it is the evil that's connecting all evil deeds together and making practicers of such evil deeds one family. Galatians 5:19-21

Let me pick GAMBLING which is the topic of discussion on this thread.

When people are thinking of how to get what they never worked for just by risking their money it shows how greedy such individuals are and they are never humble people instead they want to oppress others so even though they win a little the spirit of oppression won't let them rest instead they will continue aiming more which always make them desperate.

It's actually a two-edged sword though if you think about it critically. Some people trade forex,, stocks, options, crypto etc successfully which involves throwing in some funds with the aim of making profit. Even banks do it.

Some to folks will agree that's gambling. It's just life and it's been like that before we were born. If bad nothing to do with the Bible or Quoran, it's simply a part of the world's economics.

Dtruthspeaker:
See for your to use Bitcoin and salary together just shows how low you have fallen.

Wiki
Bitcoin is the first decentralized cryptocurrency

A cryptocurrency is a digital, currency.

And here you are calling air and software in a computer a real thing like thing you use to pay bus fare, and you say you are normal.

Then you compare with Oshiomhole whose real money was stolen, o boy stop embarrassing yourself

Oga. What is the definition of Money. It is a legal tender, either Cash or digital.
Did you even go to school? Must money be in cash?
Bitcoin is a legal tender just like ur Naira.

Go and learn and stone living in the stone age.

MaxInDHouse:
This is about what elders of the church of Christ concluded upon {Matthew 18:17} that gambling is not for the children of God so if you now insist on seeing a scripture where it's written word for word when no church support it then you are like the Jewish nation that rejected Christ and his Apostles because they can't see what they said written word for word in the Old Testament!🙂

Lol.
You are already cornered.
Who are the elders? The one in your Organization?
Keep whining yourself. Even if they tell you not to eat food again but fruits, you will take it as the gospel because some so called elders agreed on it.
Is that not laughable?

immaculatesense:
Oga. What is the definition of Money. It is a legal tender, either Cash or digital.
Did you even go to school? Must money be in cash?
Bitcoin is a legal tender just like ur Naira.

Go and learn and stone living in the stone age.

If truly you went to school then you would have known that by 99% you referred to real and tangible things with digital being the anomaly.

And see, in addition to all your disgrace you now resorted to lies for no, Bitcoin is not even sanctioned by your rulers (legal)

Central Bank of Nigeria
https://www.cbn.gov.ng
PDF
press release on virtual currencies.pdf
Virtual currencies are not legal tender in Nigeria

You better go hide yourself in shame.

RenoOkriTheGoat: 9:42am On Apr 15
They will never learn. Greed for quick wealth.

Anywhere belle face
Re: From MMM To CBEX: Nigeria’s Recurring Ponzi Tragedy by OkCornel(m): 9:42am On Apr 15
They never learn.

Another one will come up within 3-5 years.

AntiChristian:
Incest like in Genesis 38 story of Judar and Tamar ancestors of Jesus!

Or that of Lot and his daughters who were saved from sodomy but ended up in incest!

Yahweh is Good all the time!

Because it happened in the bible doesn't mean YHWH approved it. Show me where YHWH approved incest in the Bible.

In yuur case, isl@m approved incest.

Two different things!

AntiChristian:
Incest like in Genesis 38 story of Judar and Tamar ancestors of Jesus!

Or that of Lot and his daughters who were saved from sodomy but ended up in incest!

Yahweh is Good all the time!

YHWH doesn't say what Lot did was right.

YHWH never approved incest, but yuur ala approved incest


Stop pritiending as if yuu are 2 diaft to see the difference.

AntiChristian:
Incest like in Genesis 38 story of Judar and Tamar ancestors of Jesus!

Or that of Lot and his daughters who were saved from sodomy but ended up in incest!

Yahweh is Good all the time!

This yuur comment further proved that the stories of Abraham Moses, etc in the keuran were all copied from the bible.


Abraham, lot, Moses, Adam, David, etc are people of YHWH. Minamed stole their stories from the bible and laid that he got reveliation

Keuran is a copy copy fiake b00k. Yuu mesuslims are practicing a fiake reiligion copied from other religions, like Christians, Jews, Sabians and Ar@b paigans

MemoriesAndMe:
It's actually a two-edged sword though if you think about it critically. Some people trade forex,, stocks, options, crypto etc successfully which involves throwing in some funds with the aim of making profit. Even banks do it.
Some to folks will agree that's gambling. It's just life and it's been like that before we were born. If bad nothing to do with the Bible or Quoran, it's simply a part of the world's economics.

Guy i've delivered the church message to the OP who wants to know what the Bible teaches so if you are into gambling that's not my own cup of coffee you and i don't belong to the same faith.