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zoedew:
The Bible is replete with the evidence you seek but the evidence is accessed by faith in what you hear from the Bible and corroborated by what you see in creation. It's your choice though to or not to believe. No compulsion whatsoever!

which of the bibles?

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

My take goes with a another question: After writing exam in a programme of five years and 40% percent of the students failed. What will the system gain for failing the students?

Amotolongbo:
That is why we say all these things na scam.
The concept of Heaven and Hell is to empower the leaders (spiritual or political) to enjoy this life to the fullest, making the followers to be docile to their authorities and command promising them good life after earth in heaven. The same good life the leaders on earth are enjoying, not waiting to get it in heaven.

That is why Karl Marx condemned religion because it makes me opiated and clueless in pursuit of good life and better economy policies. Karl Marx attempted to replicate heaven on earth via his essay and theory of Communism

But USA govt stopped spread of the ideology tagging it utopian economy

seunmsg:
You mean hellfire na scam?

confirm scam... always use your sense abi you don't have any

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you see God complaining about that? So don't brother about them. It is Krinimals like you who are Wanted

ur god and his heaven and hell are as dead as dodo.

seunmsg:
You mean hellfire na scam?

A very big scam

buragidi:
That god must be hungry to eat BBQ. Animal talk

Unless you repent you will likewise perish says the scriptures in Luke 13:3
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. That day your mouth will not be able to yarn the ukpata you just vomitted!

galantjoe:
That is why Karl Marx condemned religion because it makes me opiated and clueless in pursuit of good life and better economy policies. Karl Marx attempted to replicate heaven on earth via his essay and theory of Communism

But USA govt stopped spread of the ideology tagging it utopian economy

What a worthy belief system you have there that could be stopped by USA!

Only the dead can believe that God has a place where he incinerates spirits. God is Spirit, and when anyone sheds this physical tabernacle which we all use rto interact with this physical and material world, our spirit, which is us, returns to God, to rest.

Then we reincarnate to face either judgment and punishment for the sins of the immediate past life, or rewards and joy for the good deeds also of the immediate past life.

God does not have a place in the skies where he incinerates spirits

MaxInDHouse:
There is no word whether in Hebrew or Greek that's called "HELLFIRE" the churches scammed you!😟

that righteousness needs better slap i swear

Death, as you quote in Romans 6:23, is the ultimate end. But eternal torment leads to death.

1. For the saved => Eternal life

2. For those who refuse or reject salvation => Eternal condemnation

MaxInDHouse:
YES!

And God's word specifically says the wages (punishment or consequence) of sin is death. Romans 6:23

Not torment nah?😟

werisetogether:
The poster has a right to his opinion

But what's really the point of his question?

Is he expecting GOD to reply him on X?

Yes!, at least 'better than thou' and God advocators should explain it to him.

ledaman:
Pray not to experience hell on earth, you will know it's real.

You're booked!, for shifting the goal post. Be warned.

seunmsg:
You mean hellfire na scam?

biggest scam

Amotolongbo:
That is why we say all these things na scam.
The concept of Heaven and Hell is to empower the leaders (spiritual or political) to enjoy this life to the fullest, making the followers to be docile to their authorities and command promising them good life after earth in heaven. The same good life the leaders on earth are enjoying, not waiting to get it in heaven.

U beg to differ. Infact, this is the most childish thought I have every heard. To ridicule God with such. Reason am, how can you say what does God gain?

Very laughable. Obviously this poster does not understand why God is God. If he does, he wouldn't even phantom it.

Lemme share this, God don't have anything to gain or loose, they do cos they can and don't because they don't want to. Probably because, its against their very core. Someone who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent has nothing to gain or loose. All power belongs to them. Afterall, bible tells us earth was once destroyed by God except for one man. If God didn't gain or loose then, what has changed now, afterall, God is same yesterday, today and forever, and believe me, God does exist. Heaven and hell is real. JESUS is Christ and God. GOD DOESN'T GAIN OR LOOSE, IT IS MAN THAT DOES ALL THAT.

There is no single verse in the scriptures that says there is something people need to do so that they can go to heaven.
Even Jesus doesn't have that authority to take anyone to heaven because it's not a place made for humans {Psalms 115:16} only God chooses those who will join the Christ as corulers in heaven and nobody can decide to go there because it does not depend on human effort {Matthew 20:23} God only select a few as in limited number among Jesus' loyal disciples that will rule with him in heaven only the twelve Apostles got that Visa first and it's because they were loyal to the mission Jesus established with the last drop of their blood. That's why Judas Iscariot lost out due to his love for money.

But after the twelve Apostles nobody can decide to become a born again Christian because God chooses them the same way He chose Jesus.

What is certain for all faithful servants of God is everlasting life on earth which is what all servants of God believe from time immemorial! Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5🙂

zoedew:
Take this and am done with you as I expect that for a genuine seeker an agglomeration of all the scriptures outlined on this thread should suffice.

Romans 10:8-13
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

geoworldedu:
You are just waking up Op. The real creator of the universe isn't an arsonist like Jehovah or Allah. So fear not, you are not getting burnt.

Allah and Jehovah happen to be among the first creations of God. They are not God itself. You can research this in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY delivered to humans through GREAT OTEM.

Read Jasheb Chapter 2



CHAPTER TWO

1. What is the hope of the homos on earth?

2. What is our hope when the jealous son of God has promised to make unquenchable fire?

3. Now who can stop Alsadur from making his fire?

4. How shall the soul of the dead go to rest in the clumoid and chumorld when Nymphidis is bent on capturing their souls in his unquenchable fire?

5. Give us hope, O! Earthus.

6. For we are threatened to death by the fire of Nymphidis.

7. For this cause has many of us become weak in heart.

8. For our brains are tormented by the thought of it.

9. Did Faulkin his son not tell us that the fire of Nymphidis is real?

10. And he has embellished it with sulphur.

11. He has garnished it with the never-dying worms of Ephradite and he has promised to take more worms with him from the land of Ephradite.

12. The breeze which supports life in the ocean has Nymphidis trapped.

13. This he said shall sustain his fire forever.

14. Now are the waters of the oceans and seas left with little or no breeze to sustain the creatures of the waters.

15. Did Nymphidis not secretly tell Faulkin that he will take the land of Ephradite by surprise?

16. Now am I sick.

17. Now is my soul terrified for the fear of the fire of Nymphidis.

18. O Earthus! plead for our cause before Reverad.

16. Tell him to prevent Nymphidis from making the fire that shall capture our souls.

17. I would rather I am not created than to spend the rest of my life in the fire of Nymphidis.

18. And whom has Alsadur blamed for the invention of the fire?

19. Who has Nymphidis blamed for causing him to make this unquenchable fire?

20. He has blamed it on the old serpent of Ephradite. He has blamed it on the dragon which he made of his own hands.

21. Watch if he would not blame it on his friends in the future.

22. For Largas is now the closest friend of Nymphidis.

23. But shall I live to see how long their friendship shall last?

All these are jargon and gibber.
Please get the Bible, the authentic Word of God

olaniyilukman:
that righteousness needs better slap i swear

No!
They have a zeal for God but not with knowledge {Romans 10:2-3} they thought since both the good and evil die they can't fathom the punishment for evildoers.
God promised to bring back good people for another chance {Job 14:13-15} but as for the evildoers as in those who deliberately choose to be evil God will not remember them so the grave becomes their lasting home! Psalms 9:17

What about people who never heard of God's word or Jesus?
God said if they had lived by conscience He will remember them! Romans 2:14-15

Nostalemate:
Add ritheousness...antichristian will really get ecstatic about this kind of post.


Shout-out to Chess players on nairaland earning via the game.

were can i play chess and earn money pls🙏

JooEeL:
ur god and his heaven and hell are as dead as dodo.

Yet when sicknesses and cancer holds you, you start praying and repenting and looking for people to pray for you. And of course God is never going to answer you as you must go to hel

MaxInDHouse:
God has always remove evildoers during His time to judge {Psalms 37:7-11} that's the right thing to do but sustaining life creatures and tormenting them is evil in His eyes!😟

U didn't answered my question.
Based on your comment, you said why will God watch his creatures get burned and I asked you why did he watched them consumed by the flood he sent?

iramure:
biggest scam

Yet when cancer hold you, you go remember say e real den una go Kon dey cry dey pray make people pray for you.

Just to satisfy his bruise ego

Chijeep:
Why did he watched them consumed by the flood he sent?

He want them to die so they won't be able to disturb His program!

GodPunishOsu:
Just to satisfy his bruise ego

Godpunee.schyou. and may you never have any remedy when people do you ivu

Dtruthspeaker:
Godpunee.schyou. and may you never have any remedy when people do you ivu

Amen and amen

seunmsg:
So, if all the sins I’ve committed are just occasional consumption of alcohol, having consensual sex with matured and unmarried ladies, and not going to church on Sundays, am I also qualified to be labeled a wicked soul that should be burnt forever and ever in hell?

Friend, the qualification for hell isn't about those things you mentioned. It is about "REJECTING JESUS CHRIST", God's one and only plan to save humanity. It is the acceptance of Jesus that gives you the power to quit those things your conscience perceives as terrible; like those things you mentioned. The SIN "gangan" that most folks are guilty or could be guilty of, IS THE REJECTION OF JESUS CHRIST as their LORD AND SAVIOUR. John 3:16 is short, precise and pretty much the crux of the matter. God didn't create hell for human beings. In fact, God made humans; just a little lower than HIMSELF Psalms 8:5 (NLT) Yet you made them only a little lower than God and crowned them with glory and honor. This is precisely the reason Lucifer is so jealous of humans, that he so much wants them with him, in his abode - hell, where he can torment them endlessly. So, it isn't God who wants to punish humans in hell, rather it was God who executed an excellent plan for humans not to end up there by paying with His own blood. All you have to do is simply ACCEPT and ACKNOWLEDGE that TRUTH and ya got no business with hell. Ain't that wonderful? Remember, only you can make the choice. DO IT NOW!

AZControversial:


If God didn't ask you what you gained by continually sinning, you shouldn't be bothered by God leaving you to burn in hell....

I ask your God to create me in the first place?

seunmsg:
So, if all the sins I’ve committed are just occasional consumption of alcohol, having consensual sex with matured and unmarried ladies, and not going to church on Sundays, am I also qualified to be labeled a wicked soul that should be burnt forever and ever in hell?

First of all hell means grave that's where all dead people go {Ecclesiastes 9:10} but as for the evil that makes God reject people it is about what you won't accept but doing it to others! Matthew 7:12

Dtruthspeaker:
Godpunee.schyou. and may you never have any remedy when people do you ivu

Are you pained or your tellolist and stvpid god behalf?

It lack of bible knowledge to think God will send anybody to hell. God has no business sending u to hell.

Sin is simply separation from God, when u walk away from the God, that makes u a sinner.

And the abode of sinners is hell.

So tell me, where above did God push anyone to hell.

The problem is people hate accountability, they want to eat their cake and have it back.

U reject God, walk away from him yet u want to continue to enjoy the benefit of being in his presence.

The idea of hell is not my business. It's a gamble I don't want to take. I don't want to find out what hell looks like.

This world already give an hint of what being without God looks like. If u take away the all creation of God here on earth and u like it still, maybe hell is a natural place for u then.

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

Try and get to hell first and let see what God will gain.

People just want to trend they just post all sorts of things. When God created you what did he gain, am asking you.