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seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

God doesn't burn you in hell, you choose to burn in hell. It's because he doesn't want you to burn that he paid the ultimate sacrifice on the cross. Your being separated from him who is the source of all comfort and consolation brings you hell.

MaxInDHouse:
Burning you for what?

Well this is what the Bible God feel about tormenting living people?


They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind. ‭Jeremiah 7:31 NIV‬

Tormenting living people in fire has never ever come into the mind of our God!

JehovahWitness don speak

Lolzzzzz 🤣

Righteousness2:
GOD ALMIGHTY did not send you or burn you in Hell.

You choose to go to hell by yourself.
GOD will not force himself on us.
GOD puts before us choices and the consequences of the various choices.
He also admonishes us to choose life. But will never force you.
Whatever choice you choose, you get the consequence.


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Thank you so much please tell them or him

ono:
Wrong argument.

The Bible actually predates the "white" man. That the Bible was translated into English and handed down to us doesn't make it a white man's invention. Also, the God of the Israelites, He is the God of gods, the King of kings and Lord of lords. The creator of the Universe. And say what you like, believe what you may, God is real. And like Righteousness stated, Jesus (God in human form - for with our God, nothing shall be impossible - Mark 10:27), one who saw it all right from the beginning and who has been in Heaven and has gone through the depths of Hell and back said. "Fear Him, who after killing the body hath the power to cast the soul in Hell"

"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever" - Rev 20:10.

God does not desire that anyone should end up in Hell. That dreadful, horrible place was meant for the Devil and the demons.

I know it's a stretch for many people - this whole simple "believe and confess your sins and you will be saved" jingos, right? Sounds too easy to be what one needs to do to be saved. But it is what it is.

And yes, the 5-yead old example you stated is exactly the type of people God wants - apt. I believe God doesn't want to complicate things.
"and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. - Matt 18:3

THE BIBLE DOES NOT PREDATE THE WHITE MAN

the Torah predates the bible

it and the other religious texts of the Hebrew people has no relationship to a later fabrication of European people called the New Testament

This so called New Testament was attached to the books of the Hebrew people without their permission and called THE BIBLE

Later on another forger called Muhammad came with his own Pro Max

Twisted stories from the so called Old and New Testaments, Arabized the names e.g Ibrahim , Musa Suleiman
Claimed that Ibrahim built the Kaaba in Mecca and that Ishmael was called Ismail and he was the one to be sacrificed not Isaac

He then called it the Quran but I prefer Latest Testament

He was very clever he called it the final word and that anything in previous books that did not agree with the Quran was corrupted, that people should face Mecca to pray and come to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone and throw stones at the devil whilst naked

Then black people in Africa argue and kill themselves over which is the correct story.

God will gain nothing by burning you in hell because God doesn't burn anything alive in any hell. Shoel or Hades were listed in the Bible as a place of interment or eradication of bad things from the world NOT AS A PLACE FOR TORTURE

The church created hell, trinity, Easter, Christmas and some other pagan doctrines and trying to force it down the throat if ill informed believers.

So after burning you in hell, what does God actually gain? Nothing! For everyone person burning in hell, God has lost a cherished, precious soul that He created, in fact, you can't imagine the torture and pain God experience for every soul that goes to hell.
What is even more painful is that He allowed Jesus, His first Son to die a humiliating death so that no one will ever go to hell, and after He allowed that, some people still say, i don't believe he died for me, so these people die in their sins and go to hell, and that breaks God's heart,

2 Peter 3:9. NIV
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

2 Peter 3. NLT
The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.

Hell was created for the devil because he rebelled against God, when we sin, we also rebel against God, and there's only one place God has created for the rebellious soul, the Lake of fire,

God has done everything He could for us not to go there, but if we reject His provision to avert us from going to hell, God will not force His choice on us, as free moral beings, the final decision to go or not to go to hell depends on us. The provision to escape hell is in Jesus, when you accept Jesus, you accept the provision, when you reject Jesus, you reject the provision.

richmond500:
There is no evidence of god

There is no evidence of evolution!🙂

Zocalite:
JehovahWitness don speak
Lolzzzzz 🤣

Spoke for Jehovah the God of Jehovah's Witnesses only!🙂

Chijeep:
So God want what he took time to create to die
Is this not contradicting to your first comment?
God want them to die, good.
God can't watch his creatures to burn in he'll?🤷‍♂️

God didn't create those people o they're descendants of Adam that God created so He doesn't know them that's why they deserve to die. He recognized Noah only not because He created Noah specially but because the man chose to walk with God.

MaxInDHouse:
There is no evidence of evolution!🙂

fossils, DNA similarities, genetics are all evidence.

Fossils are one of the most evident proof of evolution which shows ordered pattern
Humans and chimps share 98-99% of DNA which proof a common ancestry.

There is observed evolution that we see today sef: bacteria evolving to resist antibiotics, virus mutation like covid 19

richmond500:
fossils, DNA similarities, genetics are all evidence.
Fossils are one of the most evident proof of evolution which shows ordered pattern. Humans and chimps share 98-99% of DNA which proof a common ancestry. There is observed evolution that we see today sef: bacteria evolving to resist antibiotics, virus mutation like covid 19

Did you see or hear fossils speak?
Or some people EXPLAINED what they BELIEVE to CONVINCE you?🤔

The truth is they showed you things that could convince you and start modifying your thoughts that's the same process all humans welcome.
So whether a person believes in the book that says a snake spoke thousands of years ago or you believe in books that says monkeys gradually became humans it depends on what you choose to believe there is little evidence (as you choose to believe) or no evidence at all to me who chose not to believe it.

Double post.

Dtruthspeaker:
Thought you don't care about lake of fire, so why are you deflecting?

Further, look at the uncountable ways you guys have created to extinguish a person, is it now Him?

He even Said it, no mind can conceive what He has in store for those He hates

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Can you see just how your own hatred has caused you to put hateful evil words into the mouth of your own God? God doesn't say this in the Bible. He actually says the opposite.

The verse you are thinking of is 1 Corinthians 2:9, it talks about the beautiful things God has prepared are for those who love him, not those who hate him.

"However, as it is written: 'What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived'—the things God has prepared for those who love him." — 1 Corinthians 2:9

This is taken from Isaiah 64:4 which says - "Since ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those who wait for him."

So can you see yasef? How did you now twist the words of God into such evil hatred?

pfadom:
Death, as you quote in Romans 6:23, is the ultimate end. But eternal torment leads to death.

Can you quote the highlighted in your own copy of the Bible?🤔

pfadom:
1. For the saved => Eternal life
2. For those who refuse or reject salvation => Eternal condemnation

Condemnation means God cuts off their source energy that's activating their breath and slowly they die off.

Dtruthspeaker:
You wish

When you have cancer it is then you would know it is real

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You brain is clouded with fear. You get cancer, if unable to treat it, you die. Shikena! Every living thing must die even if he prays and fasts 365 days in a year. Why are you scared of the inevitable? It is fact of life. Embrace it.
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MaxInDHouse:
Did you see or hear fossils speak?
Or some people EXPLAINED what they BELIEVE to CONVINCE you?🤔

The truth is they showed you things that could convince you and start modifying your thoughts that's the same process all humans welcome.
So whether a person believes in the book that says a snake spoke thousands of years ago or you believe in books that says monkeys gradually became humans it depends on what you choose to believe there is little evidence (as you choose to believe) or no evidence at all to me who chose not to believe it.

they are different, completely different.
Fossils are like buried photographs in rock layers, dead plant and animal remains, imprints on rocks like bones teeth, if you had passed through SS3 science class and did sedimentation either in geography or agric, u will see practical evidence and not just book.
They show that simple life appeared first, complex life later, and many animals changed gradually, exactly as evolution predicts.

Christians and their hypocritical thinking. Wait till that day

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

First, Scripture tells us that God’s ultimate purpose is not to “gain” anything for Himself, but to restore what was lost. In *John 3:16* we read that God “gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.” God’s desire is relationship, not profit. When sin entered the world, it broke that relationship, and the consequence—separation from God—was a natural outworking of the broken covenant (Romans 6:23). Hell, described in *Matthew 25:46* as “eternal punishment,” is the ultimate expression of respecting the free‑will choice to reject that relationship.

Second, the Bible also affirms God’s holiness and justice. *Romans 2:6‑8* says God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” This justice is not a selfish gain; it is the affirmation that love cannot be forced. If God were to overlook sin without consequence, love would become cheap, and the moral order of creation would be undermined.

Third, the hope of Scripture is that God’s glory will be fully revealed when every knee bows and every tongue confesses that He is Lord (*Philippians 2:10‑11*). Even the “gain” of seeing His glory is not about personal enrichment but about the manifestation of His perfect character to all creation.

God does not “gain” from punishment; He gains the fulfillment of His holy purpose—justice, love, and the ultimate glorification of His name—by honoring the choices of free beings. In the end, God’s greatest gain is the restoration of a people who willingly reflect His love, a reality that will bring everlasting joy to the Creator and the created alike.

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

for all the evil you have done to your fellow man, innocent people, innocent girls, you don't want repercussion for your devilish ways- Dey play....
It has been placed before you, do good, and be rewarded, do evil, and get your reward as well.

It is not God, you by your hand choose where you belong and what you suffer afterwards.

Steep:
If you don't want to be in hell, then you must be born again, and this is by accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour and that he died for you and rose again to as a guarantee for your salvation.

20th century dude.

Grow up

Insectkiller:
How does that move God??

Just accept Him and be saved..

That's all..

It's not about your human reasoning or imagination on what happened next..

I don preach to you "Accept Jesus and be saved".. Nah the only gate way be that..

Come on shift

Gateway to what?

Who made what the only gateway mr man?

And are u guys done preaching una fake silly rapture? How come u guys no longer talk about it like those days 15 - 20 yrs ago? Una don deyu learn

Gateway my foot. Fables!

ThunderFireAgba:
So na me tell your useless god make he create me and put me on earth??

Kai... Must you curse? If you get provoked over little issues like this, that explains the kind of mindset you carry. It shows you need the light inside to avoid getting filled with rage over someone's else's opinion.

Steep:
yes before the resurrection of Christ everyone who died went to hell and that is because the price for redemption had not being paid but however, those who died in the faith of God's promise when separated from those who died without God and they were conforted pending when Jesus would fulfill die for sin.
So after Jesus had finished the work on hell, he went to hell to reveal himself to the dead and bring out those who died in faith of God's promise so that after Jesus resurrection any saints who die go straight to be with Christ.

U go explain tire.

U sound like a brainwashed kid who we go give fabu say he should throw his fallen tooth on top of a roof so it can grow back after 7 days.

Thats how u sound.

hush15:
U beg to differ. Infact, this is the most childish thought I have every heard. To ridicule God with such. Reason am, how can you say what does God gain?

Very laughable. Obviously this poster does not understand why God is God. If he does, he wouldn't even phantom it.

Lemme share this, God don't have anything to gain or loose, they do cos they can and don't because they don't want to. Probably because, its against their very core. Someone who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent has nothing to gain or loose. All power belongs to them. Afterall, bible tells us earth was once destroyed by God except for one man. If God didn't gain or loose then, what has changed now, afterall, God is same yesterday, today and forever, and believe me, God does exist. Heaven and hell is real. JESUS is Christ and God. GOD DOESN'T GAIN OR LOOSE, IT IS MAN THAT DOES ALL THAT.

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All is in ur imagination birthed from being brainwashed by early exposure to a well programmed book called the bible.

It is in your head you imagine all these things and attributes. There is no proof and no one can boldly say for sure. So make we hear word. Carry your imaginative lamba go one side.

Dtruthspeaker:
See delu, who said He was going to heal you?

In your stupi mind you think He left Heaven to come and do healing? Did His prophets not heal people?

Even after all this rubbish when you have kidney cancer you would still pray and start begging people to pray for you. And your prayer is not even for healing

U just dey shout cancer cancer since. Shey cancer don show ur papa family shege ni, this one wey u get hangover and PTSD over am?

If I ask if ur God is perfect, u go say yes. If I say why he allow cancer, u go say he allows good and bad. If I ask if your good christians don suffer cancer. You go still talk yes.

So where is your logic in all this? No go warm eba.

djseanjohn77:
for all the evil you have done to your fellow man, innocent people, innocent girls, you don't want repercussion for your devilish ways- Dey play....
It has been placed before you, do good, and be rewarded, do evil, and get your reward as well.

It is not God, you by your hand choose where you belong and what you suffer afterwards.

Which evil have I done?

seunmsg:
You mean hellfire na scam?

It’s scam, Bible do not teach it

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

There is no hellfire. The Bible doesn’t teach it

richmond500:
they are different, completely different.
Fossils are like buried photographs in rock layers, dead plant and animal remains, imprints on rocks like bones teeth, if you had passed through SS3 science class and did sedimentation either in geography or agric, u will see practical evidence and not just book.
They show that simple life appeared first, complex life later, and many animals changed gradually, exactly as evolution predicts.

It's all lies but since you don't believe in the supernatural there is no way you can understand that there are unseen spirit creatures arranging those things to make you believe their lies.
God created each creature according to their likes there is nothing like evolution!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
It's all lies but since you don't believe in the supernatural there is no way you can understand that there are unseen spirit creatures arranging those things to make you believe their lies.
God created each creature according to their likes there is nothing like evolution!🙂

I already gave u practical evidence of evolution while u are still hell bent on unseen spirit.

Faith is believing something which you cannot see, touch or perceive.

You are no different from a child who believes that spiderman exists and if spider bites him, he might start shooting cobwebs right from his palms

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

God is not willing that anyone should go to hell. Based on divine justice, we were all already on our way to hell. To prevent this, God made a way for people to escape going to hell through the suffering and death of Jesus Christ.

All we have to do is to believe in Him and accept the free pass He's giving us to escape hell.

The question the person asked is like asking: what Nigerian government will gain by carrying out the sentence of a wicked, condemned serial killer who was sentenced to life in prison or death by the Justice system.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yet when cancer hold you to go remember say e real den una go Kon dey cry dey pray make people pray for you.

Emotional manipulation! Must you wish yourself cancer? Has cancer not afflicted a Christian like yourself before?
Honestly you religious people nor get sense!