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SeriouslySense:
Even if she changes again, its fine. Its only God that saves not human beings. And she will still be welcomed back anytime.

God that saves you from who? Himself?

[quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=137741293]Nigerian Atheist Lady Converts Back To ‘Christianity’ After Moving Abroad


Islam is the only religion on the face of the earth.

olabrad:
Mesuslims don't believe in God at all
They believe in ala and ala is not God Almighty that created heaven and earth. Ala is a pagan Idol worshipped by pagans in Mecca long before Islam started

u guys are funny the term “god” isn’t a specific deity,capitalizing “G” doesn’t make it any different from “g”.
The Jewish deity is a god name YHWH.
The Meccan deity is called Allah, all are gods

[quote author=Miosofune post=137790239]islam is a threat to mankind

lailo:
All women are professional liars and manipulators. Take whatever that comes out of their mouth serious at your own peril.

haha u just cruel

Blakjewelry:
God that saves you from who? Himself?

lol a god that couldn’t save his only son

The Jewish God spoke to people and manifested himself before israel and her prophets. While allah never did, he was an idol and among many idols. He had three daughters.

Allah was not a Jewish God.

After Christianity exploded. There was no great one for the Arabs, so he was invented to compete not relate to the people.


That is why l like Jesus. He speaks, i can hear him. He can appear to anyone he wants to appear to.

He is very real and personal.

Arda1000:
u guys are funny the term “god” isn’t a specific deity,capitalizing “G” doesn’t make it any different from “g”.
The Jewish deity is a god name YHWH.
The Meccan deity is called Allah, all are gods

kingxsamz:
Christians will backside and start calling themselves former atheists when they run back to church after facing difficulties in life. 😂😂
Abeg we have seen this script many times.
There are many theists who argue against religion, so it's nothing new. Make she go sit down abeg.

she distanced herself from religion,running away from god to another country .
She’s a liar and never an atheist,atheist is a total disbelief in any deity,you can’t be an atheist and be running away from what you don’t believe in.

SeriouslySense:
The Jewish God spoke to people and manifested himself before israel and her prophets. While allah never did, he was an idol and among many idols. He had three daughters.

Allah was not a Jewish God.

After Christianity exploded. There was no great one for the Arabs, so he was invented to compete not relate to the people.

the Jewish god spoke the people?
Do you have any proof to back the claim?

Both Allah and YHWH are both the same both are fairytales

Blakjewelry:
I have been an atheist for a very long time and I don't see that changing anytime in the future. I love history and science and those two keep punching holes into the God's theory every waking day.

Great position ,but if you remove religious God from God theory ,you will realise that something is the origin of everything and we can just ascribe the name "God" to that something.

But is it wrong for God to save people.

The law of God is holy or sacred. The serpent deceived Eve and Adam because he loved Eve Choose Eve instead of God. So humans broke the commandment of God and fell into Sin. No one could save humanity, since the law of God is perfect and sacred.

The devil thought he will be the God of the earth forever, since he became the ruler after adam fell from his position.

No angel could save humans since the law they broke is as sacred as God. Only God could save humanity.

Just as Adam will rather die than allow sin separate him from eve. So God will demonstrate his love for humanity by sacrificing his eternal Son.

So Jesus will rather die than allow sin separate humans from God.

Blakjewelry:
God that saves you from who? Himself?

Arda1000:
oga both u and the girl are agnostics.

No , Agnostic neither believes nor disbelieves in a God ,I believe in a God but it's just not religious God .

I still question if my believe is right ,that's why I'm a freethinker .

Arda1000:
u guys are funny the term “god” isn’t a specific deity,capitalizing “G” doesn’t make it any different from “g”.
The Jewish deity is a god name YHWH.
The Meccan deity is called Allah, all are gods

The Jew deity evidently sent messangers to humans over thousands of years.

Then the meccan deity came thousands of years later to claim that he sent those messangers. He both confirmed and denied messages of those jew deity messangers.

How can you confirm and deny an information simultaneously except if you are a liar and imposter?!

The meccan deity is a liar and imposter! He is, therefore,a fake deity

Allah said he is the best deceiver. In the bible satan was gifted great wisdom and is known as the deceiver, he was supposed to be the light bearer.

If he is the best deceiver, how do Muslims know if they are not deceived, can they trust the best deceiver.

When Christans refer to Allah they are referring to Jesus not the meccan God.

olabrad:
The Jew deity evidently sent messangers to humans over thousands of years.

Then the meccan deity came thousands of years later to claim that he sent those messangers. He both confirmed and denied messages of those jew deity messangers.

How can you confirm and deny an information simultaneously except if you are a liar and imposter?!

The meccan deity is a liar and imposter! He is, therefore,a fake deity

SeriouslySense:
But is it wrong for God to save people.

The law of God is holy or sacred. The serpent deceived Eve and Adam because he loved Eve Choose Eve instead of God. So humans broke the commandment of God and fell into Sin. No one could save humanity, since the law of God is perfect and sacred.

The devil thought he will be the God of the earth forever, since he became the ruler after adam fell from his position.

No angel could save humans since the law they broke is as sacred as God. Only God could save humanity.

Since god can see the end from the beginning as in knows what happens before it does so why did he put the apple in garden knowing fully well that he has seen eve ate the apple in the future yet still did anyway only turn around and purnish.

If you can see the future and you have seen your only child die from a rat poison you kept on the table and proceed to put the poison in the position on that very day it was supposed to happen?

Answer that question then we can continue.

If you are perfect and never sinned, then you dont need a savour. If you do not struggle to live right, you do not need a savour.

But the devil with great wisdom will tell you, you can be good by your own efforts alone or your good deeds can save you.

Blakjewelry:
God that saves you from who? Himself?

Psalm 139 Vs 7 And on explains this to us

tundaz2002:
I wonder how some people dey think like this. So wetin Christians wey dey northern Nigeria and other Arab countries dey call the Supreme
Creator?

Allah is a title, meaning "The God", not a specific name. The entity Muslims give the title of Allah is a pagan diety. He is also the same entity that Arab pagans called allah.

According to pagans in Arabia, allah has 3 daughters. That Allah with 3 daughters is the person Meuslims are serving.

The Meuslim god is a false god served by pagans in Mecca long before Islam started.

HydraFeeds:
No , Agnostic neither believes nor disbelieves in a God ,I believe in a God but it's just not religious God .

I still question if my believe is right ,that's why I'm a freethinker .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

You’re agnostic oga

Islam is not really a continuation of Judaism or Christianity. It was invented with lies, just like how they are permitted to lie when necessary.

How can truth be found in lies.

They took a random idol, then began to make claims that to look like it's a continuation.

Then they seek.to kill the religions that came before them that does not sound like God was behind it.

So it is clear they were envious of Christianity and wanted something for Arabs that will compete and make a name for Arabs.

olabrad:
Allah is a title, meaning "The God", not a specific name. The entity Muslims give the title of Allah is a pagan diety. He is also the same entity that Arab pagans called allah.

According to pagans in Arabia, allah has 3 daughters. That Allah with 3 daughters is the person Meuslims are serving.

The Meuslim god is a false god served by pagans in Mecca long before Islam started.

olabrad:
The Jew deity evidently sent messangers to humans over thousands of years.

Then the meccan deity came thousands of years later to claim that he sent those messangers. He both confirmed and denied messages of those jew deity messangers.

How can you confirm and deny an information simultaneously except if you are a liar and imposter?!

The meccan deity is a liar and imposter! He is, therefore,a fake deity

evidently? Elaborate the bolded?
Shed light on it,and bring proofs.
Both Jewish deity and the Meccan deity are fairytales

AntiChristian:
You'll join them soon!

I dare uuu to say the injil mentioned in uour Quran is lost.

Uou'll only end up desgriacing uur ala and his fiakke pri0fiet.

HydraFeeds:
Great position ,but if you remove religious God from God theory ,you will realise that something is the origin of everything and we can just ascribe the name "God" to that something.

Then go back through history backup with archeological evidence and pin that evidence to any single deity out of hundred and thousands of gods that have come and go.

Now go back to science and sturdy how big is the universe, the question now is if any of gods created the universe, they would mentioned them to those ancient priest, prophet and seers yet nothing was known until recently when we begin to develop powerful telescope.

If any of the gods did create the universe then all the scriptural text of old won't be limited to the immediate understanding of the world as it is then.

Arda1000:
evidently? Elaborate the bolded?
Shed light on it,and bring proofs.
Both Jewish deity and the Meccan deity are fairytales

Many of the stories and places mentioned in the bible today are confirmed by archeologists. That's evidence.

The death of Jesus is confirmed by many non-christian ancient writings.

That's evidence

SeriouslySense:
Islam is not really a continuation of Judaism or Christianity. It was invented with lies, just like how they are permitted to lie when necessary.

How can truth be found in lies.

They took a random idol, then began to make claims that to look like it's a continuation.

Then they seek.to kill the religions that came before them that does not sound like God was behind it.

So it is clear they were envious of Christianity and wanted something for Arabs that will compete and make a name for Arabs.

Judaism,Christainity,Islam are both Abrahamic religion,all are scam and made up by men

It's because you ask without seeking answers.

You ask questions to make a point without listening

There are so much evidences, but you will keep asking to look like you won argument or made your points.

I surrender because I need to eat now

Blakjewelry:
Then go back through history backup with archeological evidence and pin that evidence to any single deity out of hundred and thousands of gods that have come and go.

Now go back to science and sturdy how big is the universe, the question now is if any of gods created the universe, they would mentioned them to those ancient priest, prophet and seers yet nothing was known until recently when we begin to develop powerful telescope.

If any of the gods did create the universe then all the scriptural text of old won't be limited to the immediate understanding of the world as it is then.

SeriouslySense:
Islam is not really a continuation of Judaism or Christianity. It was invented with lies, just like how they are permitted to lie when necessary.

How can truth be found in lies.

They took a random idol, then began to make claims that to look like it's a continuation.

Then they seek.to kill the religions that came before them that does not sound like God was behind it.

So it is clear they were envious of Christianity and wanted something for Arabs that will compete and make a name for Arabs.

Islam is a political cult clothing itself in the garment of religion!

It's like a wolf in sheep's clothing!

SeriouslySense:
It has pleased God to use the foolish things of this world to demonstrate his grace.

The fact that you are here. I believe God can choose anyone, including you. Your knowledge ends in the grave. And you are not the only one that loves history and science.

Even science points to God. How can there be a design in creation without an intelligent designer.

Even the design in creation is replicated at different scales, the design of the universe is in humans. Look at human eyes they look like the galaxies. The human lungs looks like the tree.

Everything was well thought about, and there is order, seasons. The stars speak.

There is one big flaw in your reasoning. You said the universe is too complex so must required an intelligent designer then it also means that complex designer must also have another person design too because he too must be too complex to just come into existence so the question here is who designed the god who designed the world.

Why is God called God.

Can an ant understand a human being.

Why do you assume that God can only be created by another.

Can an ant use its logic to understand a human being.

If you have finally found your logic absolutely unshakable then you understand God.


How many years have you been in existence and how long has the universe and the earth been in existence. Is your wisdom high enough or as great as the time the earth has been in existence that you finally understood God.

Blakjewelry:
There is one big flaw in your reasoning. You said the universe is too complex so must required an intelligent designer then it also means that complex designer must also have another person design too because he too must be too complex to just come into existence so the question here is who designed the god who designed the world.

olabrad:
Many of the stories and places mentioned in the bible today are confirmed by archeologists. That's evidence.

The death of Jesus is confirmed by many non-christian ancient writings.

That's evidence

which archeological evidence proof that the Jewish deity spoke them?.
Which archaeological evidence showed that Jesus existed?

jesusjnr2020:
Nigerian Atheist Lady Converts Back To ‘Christianity’ After Moving Abroad



https://www.gistreel.com/nigerian-atheist-lady-converts-back-to-christianity-after-moving-abroad/

This is someone I know personally. I never knew she faced this challenge, I would have been very much of assistance. I hope she stabilizes

SeriouslySense:
It's because you ask without seeking answers.

You ask questions to make a point without listening

There are so much evidences, but you will keep asking to look like you won argument or made your points.

I surrender because I need to eat now

Lol you should be asking God for Devine revelations to answer the questions. You said their evidence, it simple just point them.

It is an open discuss, it will be just to win an argument if I am beating around the bush. The net is full of materials to point to for references all you have to do is point.