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thinkmoney:
Metaphor

a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.

so it fire destroying not a literal application of fire?

I may stop chatting with you because it appears you are very insincere. I have showed you the real wording of revelation 1:1, you didn’t talk despite my effort bringing them up. You only come with that your stupid laughing emoji.

so you want to claim I did not answer your revelation 1:1?

The good thing is that you are not the only one seeing our conversation, there are some sincere people and I am sure a light as been ignited in them.

Now this is another example of a metaphor;

He was a black hole, pulling everyone’s energy into his orbit.

This means the guy has a strong character that pulls everybody to him. So now if I must follow your irritating vexing logic, I can’t use “pull” again because “pull” have already been used in the metaphor?

Fire we know destroy things. Lake of fire in revelation was aptly used to show how those things and ideas- sinners, Devil and Death will be destroyed.

bro I don't know the point of you giving another example that clearly proves my point of a different meaning and you improperly stating that burning fire is a metaphor, meanwhile when asked you said it means destruction. Bro does burning fire mean creation before? That's why I am laughing.

Look at you calling sinners "AN IDEA" If I don't laugh should I cry

thinkmoney:
Doesn’t what the book contain proof “symbolized “ in the introductory verse of verse 1, accurate?

Do you think everyone worths a reply?

Thinkmoney and who ever agreed with that fallacious reasoning are funny o

Someone writes a text describing a place or an end result, and you call it a metaphor but can't give us the metaphorically meaning of "lake of fire" in context

Not mentioning Daniel, let's quote from Revelation

Rev.19.20 And the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who did mighty miracles on behalf of the beast--miracles that deceived all who had accepted the mark of the beast and who worshiped his statue. Both the beast and his false prophet were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.


Rev.20.9 - 15
And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them. Then the Devil, who betrayed them, was thrown into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and I saw the one who was sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God's throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to the things written in the books, according to what they had done. The sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead in them. They were all judged according to their deeds. And death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.


Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."

So an English author telling a story says the good guys go to US and the bad guys to 9ja, but to you the "9ja" here is metaphorical... ah God 🤦‍♂️

gohf:
Thinkmoney and who ever agreed with that fallacious reasoning are funny o

Someone writes a text describing a place or an end result, and you call it a metaphor but can't give us the metaphorically meaning of "lake of fire" in context

Not mentioning Daniel, let's quote from Revelation

Rev.19.20 And the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who did mighty miracles on behalf of the beast--miracles that deceived all who had accepted the mark of the beast and who worshiped his statue. Both the beast and his false prophet were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.


Rev.20.9 - 15
And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them. Then the Devil, who betrayed them, was thrown into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and I saw the one who was sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God's throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to the things written in the books, according to what they had done. The sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead in them. They were all judged according to their deeds. And death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.


Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."

So an English author telling a story says the good guys go to US and the bad guys to 9ja, but to you the "9ja" here is metaphorical... ah God 🤦‍♂️

So you mean that the wild beast and his false prophet, death and hell were literally tormented in the lake of fire?

What of those in Revelation 20:9 that fire consumed them, were they also tormented in the lake of fire, where did they go to?

Truthseeker10:
So you mean that the wild beast and his false prophet, death and hell were literally tormented in the lake of fire?

What of those in Revelation 20:9 that fire consumed them, were they also tormented in the lake of fire, where did they go to?

what did you read?

gohf:
what did you read?

🤣🤣🤣na wa....so the bible says that wild beast was literally tormented, You mean God tormented an animal in the lake of fire?


hell and death were also literally tormented? You mean that death and hell can feel pains of torment?
Na wa oo🤣🤣

The ones in Revelation 20:9 please show me where they went to after fire consumed them. Show me where they were literally tormented in the lake of fire.

gohf:
so it fire destroying not a literal application of fire?


so you want to claim I did not answer your revelation 1:1?

bro I don't know the point of you giving another example that clearly proves my point of a different meaning and you improperly stating that burning fire is a metaphor, meanwhile when asked you said it means destruction. Bro does burning fire mean creation before? That's why I am laughing.

Look at you calling sinners "AN IDEA" If I don't laugh should I cry

What are you so dishonest? Is it only sinners that were burnt there? Didn’t it say death? Is death a material thing?
Just wait a moment let me reply to that your long comment.

gohf:
bro a book containing metaphors isn't a metaphoric book but a book containing metaphors. I did not disregard anything like symbols being used in the book of revelation I only asked you to explain and tell us the metaphorically meaning of fire being used in Revelation 20 and 21.

Except you are saying EVERYTHING in that book is metaphoric ?

But if it you using the Greek word for signify to mean metaphoric I say bro claim down, John was not metaphorically spoken to by the angel, an angel was sent to signify and make known to him the things that will happen. Where symbols and metaphors used? Yes but was it all metaphoric and having different meanings than a literal interpretation NO.

Or you want to get into the conversation of what is the metaphorically meaning of those coming back to eternal life, since both souls, death, life etc are not material things

The message according to the Bible were given to him in signs or symbols. This must first be clear.
You at a point alleged there was no “signify” , symbolized or signs. You quoted from a translation that omitted those things entirely. You mocked.
I however showed you. So it’s not as if it’s only “fire” you have been talking about.
Still hold a moment let me reply that your Long comment.

thinkmoney:
The message according to the Bible were given to him in signs or symbols. This must first be clear.
You at a point alleged there was no “signify” , symbolized or signs. You quoted from a translation that omitted those things entirely. You mocked.
I however showed you. So it’s not as if it’s only “fire” you have been talking about.
Still hold a moment let me reply that your Long comment.

at your imaginary point, I quoted NIV that had the correct translation which stated "made known" which I also wrote if you read it properly.

"Which one is it's not only fire" that me, wait it was you that brought up revelation 1:1 and whined incorrectly about me not responding to it. If YOU don't want to talk about rev. 1:1 then stop bringing it up

MaxInDHouse:
Just as nobody asked you to bring them here as your children nah!

If God didn't start the creation in the beginning, would humans have existed?

thinkmoney:
What are you so dishonest? Is it only sinners that were burnt there? Didn’t it say death? Is death a material thing?
Just wait a moment let me reply to that your long comment.

dishonest? Is it not you who wrote this sentence
"Lake of fire in revelation was aptly used to show how those things and ideas- sinners, Devil and Death will be destroyed."....?

So where is the dishonesty you are accusing me of?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣na wa....so the bible says that wild beast was literally tormented, You mean God tormented an animal in the lake of fire?


hell and death were also literally tormented? You mean that death and hell can feel pains of torment?
Na wa oo🤣🤣

The ones in Revelation 20:9 please show me where they went to after fire consumed them. Show me where they were literally tormented in the lake of fire.

bro you still don't know how to read o. Is that where the story ended or was that the only verse I quoted? 🤣 bro only an semi-illiterate would read an answer and ask a question where is the answer but I am no surprised is it not you again.

Truthseeker10 you want me to start with you and again and school you in the basics of common sense, problem is you will not still learn.

Anyway hope you take the roasted wild beast meat that you are seeing and stuff your mouth with it o 🤣😂🤣🤣😂

Below is a recent example

https://www.nairaland.com/8578589/how-political-power-empire-helped#137812632

DeepSight:
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Why do you keep calling me wicked and evil for defending your God when you accused him?

Because you are ivu and are not defending God but actually using style to insalt Him if not you would have come to prove your accusation.

But you are running forgetting that God, Nature or whatever Authority of fairness and just is you believe, will surely surely and absolutely punisch yeuw for your ivu. So keep on running..

I left the case for Them

And that is why I thank God that helfaya is there waiting for you wen u dhie

gohf:
bro you still don't know how to read o. Is that where the story ended or was that the only verse I quoted? 🤣 bro only an semi-illiterate would read an answer and ask a question where is the answer but I am no surprised is it not you again.

Truthseeker10 you want me to start with you and again and school you in the basics of common sense, problem is you will not still learn.

Anyway hope you take the roasted wild beast meat that you are seeing and stuff your mouth with it o 🤣😂🤣🤣😂

Below is a recent example

https://www.nairaland.com/8578589/how-political-power-empire-helped#137812632

🤣🤣🤣bro just answer the questions below na since you know how to read and know how the story ended na.


🤣🤣🤣na wa....so the bible says that wild beast was literally tormented, You mean God tormented an animal in the lake of fire?


hell and death were also literally tormented? You mean that death and hell can feel pains of torment?
Na wa oo🤣🤣

The ones in Revelation 20:9 please show me where they went to after fire consumed them. Show me where they were literally tormented in the lake of fire.

Chidolalar:
If God didn't start the creation in the beginning, would humans have existed?

He loves to have children on planet earth just like human parents that's why the Bible said He made us in His image.

So if you wish to have children don't blame God because you are exhibiting His trait. Genesis 1:27

gohf:
dishonest? Is it not you who wrote this sentence
"Lake of fire in revelation was aptly used to show how those things and ideas- sinners, Devil and Death will be destroyed."....?

So where is the dishonesty you are accusing me of?

Well, I am not writing a thesis. I said things there, maybe I should say people and idea abi?
Just wait small let me find time to reply to that your long comment.

thinkmoney:
Na you make the post. I haven’t seen your post before and what is happening now isn’t the same has what is described in revelation.
No one is taken a literal 666 mark anywhere yet

Where you not here in 2023? So you saw the fulfillment?

And the fulfillment of Revelations 16:12?

It is because you have not seen it happen is why you are holding on to metaphor, exactly how you people did before the prophecies started getting fulfilled.

"You cannot wake a person pretending to be asleep"

gohf:
at your imaginary point, I quoted NIV that had the correct translation which stated "made known" which I also wrote if you read it properly.

"Which one is it's not only fire" that me, wait it was you that brought up revelation 1:1 and whined incorrectly about me not responding to it. If YOU don't want to talk about rev. 1:1 then stop bringing it up

NIV too doesn’t translate a lot of places well. I can show you three more errors in NIV and I am sure you take time to verify things that are new to you.
Did NIV even use anything like signify ? It just went on and say “made it known”.
I can show you three more errors, one is even just a position of punctuation mark in a sentence. Yes, such subtle insignificant things can change the whole meaning of a message.
I don’t want to do it now as it will open more fronts. This one we are dealing with is already overwhelming. Do I am going to focus on replying to that your long comment

Dtruthspeaker:
Where you not here in 2023? So you saw the fulfillment?

And the fulfillment of Revelations 16:12?

It is because you have not seen it happen is why you are holding on to metaphor, exactly how you people did before the prophecies started getting fulfilled.

"You cannot wake a person pretending to be asleep"

My brother, no be your post I dey look for for nairakand especially when I noticed is error filled.
Nobody in Nigeria is taking a mark yet

Dtruthspeaker:
Because you are ivu and are not defending God but actually using style to insalt Him if not you would have come to prove your accusation.

But you are running forgetting that God, Nature or whatever Authority of fairness and just is you believe, will surely surely and absolutely punisch yeuw for your ivu. So keep on running..

I left the case for Them

And that is why I thank God that helfaya is there waiting for you wen u dhie

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There is no way you can win this case before God.

Reason is simple. You made a statement. You said that God said that no mind has conceived what he has in store for those that hate him. You said this to justify hell fire.

I provided verses correcting you and showing that what was said was that eye has not seen, ear has not heard, nor can anyone conceive the wonderful things God has in store for them that love him.

That is the beginning and end of this matter.

You lied on your God.

I was gracious enough to point out the lie and show that what was said was actually beautiful and benevolent, not the malevolent lie you produced. I did that despite the fact that I don't believe in your God.

There is no way on Earth that any powers above or below will justify you over me in this matter.

thinkmoney:
NIV too doesn’t translate a lot of places well. I can show you three more errors in NIV and I am sure you take time to verify things that are new to you.
Did NIV even use anything like signify ? It just went on and say “made it known”.
I can show you three more errors, one is even just a position of punctuation mark in a sentence. Yes, such subtle insignificant things can change the whole meaning of a message.
I don’t want to do it now as it will open more fronts. This one we are dealing with is already overwhelming. Do I am going to focus on replying to that your long comment

so after telling me to wait let you find time, this is the best you could come up with. An irrelevant mention of possible errors in a Bible translation not related to the topic at hand where I clearly stated the Greek text and wrote out the interpretations of a verse you incorrectly attempted to use to justify your statement that "burning fire" as used in Rev. 19,20&21 is a metaphor.

Wow

gohf:
Thinkmoney and who ever agreed with that fallacious reasoning are funny o

Someone writes a text describing a place or an end result, and you call it a metaphor but can't give us the metaphorically meaning of "lake of fire" in context

Not mentioning Daniel, let's quote from Revelation

Rev.19.20 And the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who did mighty miracles on behalf of the beast--miracles that deceived all who had accepted the mark of the beast and who worshiped his statue. Both the beast and his false prophet were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.


Rev.20.9 - 15
And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them. Then the Devil, who betrayed them, was thrown into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and I saw the one who was sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God's throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to the things written in the books, according to what they had done. The sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead in them. They were all judged according to their deeds. And death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.


Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."

So an English author telling a story says the good guys go to US and the bad guys to 9ja, but to you the "9ja" here is metaphorical... ah God 🤦‍♂️

It’s important for you to know that Christians have some fundamental general assumptions about the meaning of things, but if you understand the Bible really, you will know that these popular assumptions might be wrong. The Bible prophesied that in our days, deceivers will come out deceiving MANY. It advised that he that think he stands should do a reassessment.

You have to have the calmness and condition of mind to listen to things that are radically different from what you have known.



*First the beast there is not even a literal beast. It’s an imaginary animal that is used to describe the Worldwide political system. It rules over “every tribe and people and tongue and nation,” so it is greater than a single national government.
This shows how the political set up of the world, it’s leaders were used to do Satans bidding. So you see that in consistence with the metaphoric value of Revelation, the wild beast isn’t just a literal entity, but an animal that symbolizes a system.

*The false prophet too, isn't just an individual, but it represents individuals and organizations that skillfully teach people things that take them away from God or make them question God. The theory of evolution and its proponents that many nations of the world have embraced to explain the existence and essence of things may fall into this category.

*you see how the “sky and earth” fled before the great throne. Does earth have leg to run? Does sky have wings to fly away? Again in that Revelation 20:9-15; “death and grave” were thrown into the lake of. Can death and grace be handled? Isn’t this a pointer to the fact that many of thing are allegorical? How do you burn grave and death in a literal lake of fire?

What’s this lake of fire?

*There was an actual lake of fire that sulfur was added to constantly in the time of Christ and the Apostles.
There was a valley just outside the big walls of Jerusalem. It was a huge dump site. Rubbish and sometimes criminals that have been executed that people deem not to deserve burial were thrown in to it to dispose off them. There was a fire that constantly burn at this site because sulfur was constantly poured on it. The name of this lake is Gehenna.
Sometimes when Jesus said things like “somebody that hate his brother will be throne into “hell”, the word the Bible translators of the Bible translate as hell is Gehenna. It’s that burning lake (valley) Jesus was using to describe the destruction such person will face. Jesus explicitly use Gehenna.
In this lake too, worms feast on the decomposing body. You can imagine the horror of the face. There apparently are some bodies that flies perch on and lay there maggots on. The Bible describe this maggots that they never die, that can mean you will always find them slithering on the decomposing corpse.

**what’s more? Revelation 21:8; explains what this lake of fire represent. I will quote your version. “their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH." The lake represents the second death, which is the permanent death, a death without hope of resurrection. Permanent destruction and forfeiture of the gift of God that is eternal life (or forever existence). That is why death and grave too can be said to be thrown into this lake, because around that time that sinners are thrown into that figurative fire and made to cease to exist, death too will be no more. Nobody will die again and the use of graves will go extinct.

Yes, somebody can use USA and 9ja as two different things to show 2 contrasting realties. There can be a proverb in a place were somebody say things like “eh, David, we wey support APC na for America we dey live oh, the government are showing us a lot of favor, while you guys that are rebellious to Tinubu are the one living in 9ja. You are being deprived of several subsidies the government offers ( this is just an example you know, it’s not the exact description of things in Nigeria).

DeepSight:
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There is no way you can win this case before God.

Reason is simple. You made a statement.

I made no case against God, so I am not fighting anything against Him that I should require a win.

My case is against you who for your twisted ivu reasons felt the need to accuse me of having an evil opinion. And you have been called upon several times to come and prove your accusation against me. And you have been running away

DeepSight:
You said that God said that no mind has conceived what he has in store for those that hate him. You said this to justify hell fire.

I provided verses correcting you and showing that what was said was that eye has not seen, ear has not heard, nor can anyone conceive the wonderful things God has in store for them that love him.

That is the beginning and end of this matter.

You lied on your God.

So you are telling the Spirit of the earth and the air and the sea and the world that I did not reply and counter your assertion stated above, but that is where the matter ended?

At 12:34pm December 14 the thread proves that countered you saying

12:34pm On Dec 14
DeepSight:
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Can you see just how your own hatred has caused you to put hateful evil words into the mouth of your own God? God doesn't say this in the Bible. He actually says the opposite.

The verse you are thinking of is 1 Corinthians 2:9, it talks about the beautiful things God has prepared are for those who love him, not those who hate him.

"However, as it is written: 'What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived'—the things God has prepared for those who love him." — 1 Corinthians 2:9

This is taken from Isaiah 64:4 which says - "Since ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those who wait for him."...

*Common natural sense already tells us, if you see the good, then you can see the bad. The Bible even mentions His Right Hand, yet no one remembers to check for His Left Hand"

So, the thread shows that it is you who is the lieyar!

For after my answer you did not have any reasonable thing to say other than to accuse me of making an "inference" saying

'It is you that is inferring the opposite by force."

To which I replied that

"Is inference not part of speech?
If you say you are not at home, have you not impliedly also said that you are outside your home?
Or if you say I will give my employees Christmas bonuses, do you not impliedly also say that you are not giving Christmas bonuses to people who do not work for you?"

Only for you to even agree with me and proved what I already said by you saying

That is completely different. If I say I am inside my house of course that means I am not outside.

Therefore, you have proven that I am not wrong for thinking the way I did.

All these are clearly laid out in black and white for God and all to see and Judge

AZControversial:

It's okay.... Stop crying.

Next time, don't curse God ok. Else, your words will judge you

Your mumu God yaf suffered

vdestro:
Comon, you gat the power to simply take some swipes from that popular drink na. Nothing hard for inside.

Is your God powerless like me?

Dtruthspeaker:
I made no case against God, so I am not fighting anything against Him that I should require a win.

My case is against you who for your twisted ivu reasons felt the need to accuse me of having an evil opinion. And you have been called upon several times to come and prove your accusation against me. And you have been running away



So you are telling the Spirit of the earth and the air and the sea and the world that I did not reply and counter your assertion stated above, but that is where the matter ended?

At 12:34pm December 14 the thread proves that countered you saying

12:34pm On Dec 14
DeepSight:
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Can you see just how your own hatred has caused you to put hateful evil words into the mouth of your own God? God doesn't say this in the Bible. He actually says the opposite.

The verse you are thinking of is 1 Corinthians 2:9, it talks about the beautiful things God has prepared are for those who love him, not those who hate him.

"However, as it is written: 'What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived'—the things God has prepared for those who love him." — 1 Corinthians 2:9

This is taken from Isaiah 64:4 which says - "Since ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those who wait for him."...

*Common natural sense already tells us, if you see the good, then you can see the bad. The Bible even mentions His Right Hand, yet no one remembers to check for His Left Hand"

So, the thread shows that it is you who is the lieyar!

For after my answer you did not have any reasonable thing to say other than to accuse me of making an "inference" saying

'It is you that is inferring the opposite by force."

To which I replied that

"Is inference not part of speech?
If you say you are not at home, have you not impliedly also said that you are outside your home?
Or if you say I will give my employees Christmas bonuses, do you not impliedly also say that you are not giving Christmas bonuses to people who do not work for you?"

Only for you to even agree with me and proved what I already said by you saying

That is completely different. If I say I am inside my house of course that means I am not outside.

Therefore, you have proven that I am not wrong for thinking the way I did.

All these are clearly laid out in black and white for God and all to see and Judge

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Stop trying to deflect by claiming you made a justified inference. The fact is YOU CLAIMED THAT YOUR GOD SAID SOMETHING HE NEVER SAID.

And your matter keeps getting worse because by invoking the Earth, the Air and the Sea against me you have unwittingly revealed that you are in fact pagan.

So drop the pretenses at Christianity.

thinkmoney:
It’s important for you to know that Christians have some fundamental general assumptions about the meaning of things, but if you understand the Bible really, you will know that these popular assumptions might be wrong. The Bible prophesied that in our days, deceivers will come out deceiving MANY. It advised that he that think he stands should do a reassessment.

You have to have the calmness and condition of mind to listen to things that are radically different from what you have known.



*First the beast there is not even a literal beast. It’s an imaginary animal that is used to describe the Worldwide political system. It rules over “every tribe and people and tongue and nation,” so it is greater than a single national government.
This shows how the political set up of the world, it’s leaders were used to do Satans bidding. So you see that in consistence with the metaphoric value of Revelation, the wild beast isn’t just a literal entity, but an animal that symbolizes a system.

*The false prophet too, isn't just an individual, but it represents individuals and organizations that skillfully teach people things that take them away from God or make them question God. The theory of evolution and its proponents that many nations of the world have embraced to explain the existence and essence of things may fall into this category.

*you see how the “sky and earth” fled before the great throne. Does earth have leg to run? Does sky have wings to fly away? Again in that Revelation 20:9-15; “death and grave” were thrown into the lake of. Can death and grace be handled? Isn’t this a pointer to the fact that many of thing are allegorical? How do you burn grave and death in a literal lake of fire?

What’s this lake of fire?

*There was an actual lake of fire that sulfur was added to constantly in the time of Christ and the Apostles.
There was a valley just outside the big walls of Jerusalem. It was a huge dump site. Rubbish and sometimes criminals that have been executed that people deem not to deserve burial were thrown in to it to dispose off them. There was a fire that constantly burn at this site because sulfur was constantly poured on it. The name of this lake is Gehenna.
Sometimes when Jesus said things like “somebody that hate his brother will be throne into “hell”, the word the Bible translators of the Bible translate as hell is Gehenna. It’s that burning lake (valley) Jesus was using to describe the destruction such person will face. Jesus explicitly use Gehenna.
In this lake too, worms feast on the decomposing body. You can imagine the horror of the face. There apparently are some bodies that flies perch on and lay there maggots on. The Bible describe this maggots that they never die, that can mean you will always find them slithering on the decomposing corpse.

**what’s more? Revelation 21:8; explains what this lake of fire represent. I will quote your version. “their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH." The lake represents the second death, which is the permanent death, a death without hope of resurrection. Permanent destruction and forfeiture of the gift of God that is eternal life (or forever existence). That is why death and grave too can be said to be thrown into this lake, because around that time that sinners are thrown into that figurative fire and made to cease to exist, death too will be no more. Nobody will die again and the use of graves will go extinct.

Yes, somebody can use USA and 9ja as two different things to show 2 contrasting realties. There can be a proverb in a place were somebody say things like “eh, David, we wey support APC na for America we dey live oh, the government are showing us a lot of favor, while you guys that are rebellious to Tinubu are the one living in 9ja. You are being deprived of several subsidies the government offers ( this is just an example you know, it’s not the exact description of things in Nigeria).

guy you know deceivers like jam-talk, which is what you are doing here
Lake of fire being the second death, is not a metaphor, a description/definition/explanation is not a metaphor. Just look at the bunch of IRRELEVANT volumous twarp you, all you have had to do WAS TO SHOW HOW IT'S A METAPHOR AND STATE IT'S DIFFERENT MEANING.

At least have the shame to admit you were wrong. THERE WAS NOT ONE THING YOU WROTE THERE THAT CLEARLY ADDRESSES THE SUBJECT OF CONVERSATION, lake of fire being a metaphor, I don't care about wild beasts or bush fowls, don't care about anything else that you do not relate to the lake of fire being a metaphor and not a literally place they get thrown into like you original stated

Dan.7.10 - 11
and a river of fire flowed from his presence. Millions of angels ministered to him, and a hundred million stood to attend him. Then the court began its session, and the books were opened. I continued to watch because I could hear the little horn's boastful speech. I kept watching until the fourth beast was killed and its body was destroyed by fire.

Thinkmoney if Jesus was using "Gehenna" what was Daniel using here?

gohf:
guy you know deceivers like jam-talk, which is what you are doing here
Lake of fire being the second death, is not a metaphor, a description/definition/explanation is not a metaphor. Just look at the bunch of IRRELEVANT volumous twarp you, all you have had to do WAS TO SHOW HOW IT'S A METAPHOR AND STATE IT'S DIFFERENT MEANING.

At least have the shame to admit you were wrong. THERE WAS NOT ONE THING YOU WROTE THERE THAT CLEARLY ADDRESSES THE SUBJECT OF CONVERSATION, lake of fire being a metaphor, I don't care about wild beasts or bush fowls, don't care about anything else that you do not relate to the lake of fire being a metaphor and not a literally place they get thrown into like you original stated

Maybe I don’t know the meaning of metaphor. Because I don’t understand this fuss.
Ok, what I mean all the while is that the lake of fire is not a literal burning fire, it’s an analogy to represent things coming to an end- being put out of existence. Bad people, the beast, Satan, death, grave all get thrown into this FIGURATIVE lake of fire, which means SECOND DEATH.
So if you will continue making fuss and keep saying the lake is a literal fire then fare there well bro. I don try for you.
If your head block others are not that irredeemable.

thinkmoney:
Maybe I don’t know the meaning of metaphor. Because I don’t understand this fuss.
Ok, what I mean all the while is that the lake of fire is not a literal burning fire, it’s an analogy to represent things coming to an end- being put out of existence. Bad people, the beast, Satan, death, grave all get thrown into this FIGURATIVE lake of fire, which means SECOND DEATH.
So if you will continue making fuss and keep saying the lake is a literal fire then fare there well bro. I don try for you.
If your head block others are not that irredeemable.

If he ask you what Daniel meant by fire please tell him that Daniel himself asked God for the meaning of these symbolic terms but God told him it's not for him or his generation to understand what it means:

I heard the answer, but I really didn’t understand. So I asked, “Sir, what will happen after all this comes true?” Daniel 12:8

God responded:

“Go on about your life Daniel. The message is hidden. It will be a secret until the time of the end. Daniel 12:9

So the meaning of all these symbolic terms were hidden until our own time and only true servants of God will know the meaning Jesus said it's these anointed Christians that will teach his real disciples in the end time the meaning of all these signs! Matthew 24:45

For your information the Bible book of Daniel 12:1 revealed that archangel Michael is the one who will lead servants of God to unravel all these sacred secrets well if you are willing to accept it Jesus Christ is the hidden archangel Michael so only those who recognize his presence will understand!

gohf:
Dan.7.10 - 11
and a river of fire flowed from his presence. Millions of angels ministered to him, and a hundred million stood to attend him. Then the court began its session, and the books were opened. I continued to watch because I could hear the little horn's boastful speech. I kept watching until the fourth beast was killed and its body was destroyed by fire.

Thinkmoney if Jesus was using "Gehenna" what was Daniel using here?

You are obviously not a good Bible student.
Daniels vision (or dream) like Joseph’s, Isaiah’s, Ezekiel’s and Johns all use animal or some bizarre looking creatures to represent things.
7 cows represents seven years in Joseph’s case. It’s noteworthy however, that the creatures in Daniel, Ezekiel and Johns visions are similar. They represents things that will happen in the last days.
The creatures, things and event in this visions represents things and ideas. The Angel explained to Daniel that the animals are kingdoms (like I explained the creature at Revelation to that it represents political powers of the earth). The Angel didn’t explain the fire from Gods throne. However, putting Bible together one will come to the conclusion that the fire represents destructive power of God to bring judgement to erring nations and power, both physical and spiritual.
The fire coming out of the throne like the lake of fire in Revelation is used to pass judgement. It’s used to destroy and bring to nonexistence.
“Our God will come and cannot remain silent.
Before him is a consuming fire,
And a great storm rages all around him.” Psalm 50:3.

Our God will come and cannot remain silent.
Before him is a consuming fire,
And a great storm rages all around him.

Fire goes before him
And consumes his adversaries on every side. Psalm 97:3.

This fire represents the destructive ability of God and his capability to render judgement.

I will give you an example from that same passage in Daniel. The four beast represents four world powers that will still come after Daniel.
We have had Babylon, Greece, Rome and now we are in the last one -Anglo-Saxon- power. It will soon get divided into several powers. We are entering that phase of multipolar world where China is coming up, India too, Russia and several others.
These other powers that have gone were burned by the fire. They were made to cease to exist. But if you are a good student of history, you will know that Babylon, Rome, and Greece where in no time burned by a big inferno that destroyed them and they are not in any hell.
But they have met there end. They have been consumed by the fire from God.
The serving political powers today represented by the beast, the false prophet, Devil himself, sinners, grave and death will soon be destroyed as it where by this fire of God [or from God]. They will all go into non-existence

thinkmoney:
Maybe I don’t know the meaning of metaphor. Because I don’t understand this fuss.
Ok, what I mean all the while is that the lake of fire is not a literal burning fire, it’s an analogy to represent things coming to an end- being put out of existence. Bad people, the beast, Satan, death, grave all get thrown into this FIGURATIVE lake of fire, which means SECOND DEATH.
So if you will continue making fuss and keep saying the lake is a literal fire then fare there well bro. I don try for you.
If your head block others are not that irredeemable.

"an analogy to represent 'things' coming to an end" which things? Things you said were not material abi, okay so your metaphorically meaning is that the lake of fire means to bring to an end things, put them out of existence but did you skip the part where is was written, they were THROWN IN ALIVE chap. 19, then chap. 20 THEY WILL BE TORMENTED DAILY FOREVER

SOOOO TELL US HOW TO THEY END DAILY FOREVER
and WHYYYYY

is what you are saying contradicting the phrase written in the text

basanisthesontai which means torment not end them