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DeepSight:
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Stop this at once MAX and point to the verse which says Michael is Jesus, otherwise I will have to discipline you.

Funny atheist!
Who cares what you think about yourself?
Answer the question or do what your other friend did when i told him that "butter no be monkey food"
Once he heard that he mello.

So i will ask you again.

Do you believe that the Bible is God's inspired word?

If not there's nothing to discuss with you!🙂

Truthseeker10:
So if 1 Thessalonians 4:16 does not mention Michael, whose voice of an archangel is involved in the resurrection of the dead according to that verse?

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


Is there anywhere in the bible where the plural "Archangels" is used?

Below in the screenshot is the commentary that you provided in this thread. Do you agree with the scholars below?

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There is no reason to require that "archangels" appears in plural, and even if Michael is the only Archangel, the fact remains that this verse still does not translate to him being Jesus. Because it says the Lords descends WITH the voice of an archangel, that could mean in company of an archangel.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
Who cares what you think about yourself?
Answer the question or do what your other friend did when i told him that "butter no be monkey food"
Once he heard that he mello.

So i will ask you again.

Do you believe that the Bible is God's inspired word?

If not there's nothing to discuss with you!🙂

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I am not an atheist and I have already said the Bible is not inerrant.

DeepSight:
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There is no reason to require that "archangels" appears in plural, and even if Michael is the only Archangel, the fact remains that this verse still does not translate to him being Jesus. Because it says the Lords descends WITH the voice of an archangel, that could mean in company of an archangel.

So Oga what voice is raising up the dead according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

DeepSight:
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I am not an atheist and I have already said the Bible is not inerrant.

So if you believe it's not God's word and it has errors then what exactly do you expect from such a book?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself if you don't believe the Bible Jesus said i should not share God's precious words with you:

“Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine, so that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open" Matthew 7:6

So go for what you believe (trust) faith is not what your type cherish! 2Thessalonians 3:2

MaxInDHouse:
So if you believe it's not God's word and it has errors then what exactly do you expect from such a book?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself if you don't believe the Bible Jesus said i should not share God's precious words with you:

“Do not give what is holy to dogs nor throw your pearls before swine, so that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open" Matthew 7:6

So go for what you believe (trust) faith is not what your type cherish! 2Thessalonians 3:2

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It is not up to you to give the bible to me I am sure I had read it several times while you were still a child or even not yet born.

Truthseeker10:
So Oga what voice is raising up the dead according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

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It says with the voice of an archangel. It does not say Michael.

After all, God has spoken through even humans has he not?

DeepSight:
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It says with the voice of an archangel. It does not say Michael.

After all, God has spoken through even humans has he not?

Oga how does this answer the question, Where did I say that it said Michael?

I simply asked you whose voice is raising up the dead according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

King James Bible
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Or are you implying that there is another voice that can raise the dead apart from the voice of Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy butter doesn't belong to monkeys so leave this matter at least you have agreed that someone actually lived in the first century Jewish community named Jesus of Nazareth.

That's enough for now!🙂

LoLz. Why are you sour because we know the book too?

Truthseeker10:
I simply asked you whose voice is raising up the dead according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

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The Lord, in company of the voice of an arch angel.

Or are you implying that there is another voice that can raise the dead apart from the voice of Jesus?

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According to the bible, God reserves that power. After all who is said to have raised Jesus himself from the dead?

DeepSight:
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It is not up to you to give the bible to me I am sure I had read it several times while you were still a child or even not yet born.

Go and teach what you know at least i've gotten many here who respected me for what i teach.

Let me add what used to make you cry:

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...

LordReed:
LoLz. Why are you sour because we know the book too?

You know the book as what o?🙂

DeepSight:
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The Lord, in company of the voice of an arch angel.

🤣🤣🤣so it's the archangel's voice and Jesus that would raise the dead?


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to the bible, God reserves that power. After all who is said to have raised Jesus himself from the dead?

You mean that Jesus does not have the power to resurrect the dead?

Below is John 11:25 and John 5:25
King James Bible
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

King James Bible
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣so it's the archangel's voice and Jesus that would raise the dead?
You mean that Jesus does not have the power to resurrect the dead?
Below is John 11:25 and John 5:25
King James Bible
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
King James Bible
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

The funny thing is asking how God raised Jesus from the dead as if God must call like Jesus did!

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣so it's the archangel's voice and Jesus that would raise the dead?

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As you laugh remember that I do not believe in the Bible. You do. I am only repeating what it says.

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You mean that Jesus does not have the power to resurrect the dead?

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That verse says "the Lord." How do you know its not a reference to God?

Again, who raised Jesus himself from the dead?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and teach what you know at least i've gotten many here who respected me for what i teach.

Let me add what used to make you cry:

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As I have always told you, this only shows your need for validation and discloses an inferiority complex.
Its also very creepy. It suggests mental illness.

DeepSight:
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As I have always told you, this only shows your need for validation and discloses an inferiority complex. Its also very creepy. It suggests mental illness.

Call it whatever you want the Interested person who has deep feelings for God's word saw the quotations and trembled because he respect the Bible not faithless people like you!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
You know the book as what o?🙂

As a human being.

DeepSight:
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As you laugh remember that I do not believe in the Bible. You do. I am only repeating what it says.

Oga your beliefs does not matter here. Interpretation does.
You are clearly Interpreting and not repeating.
If you are claiming to repeat what the verse says, kindly show us where the verse says "in company of an archangel's voice"?

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That verse says "the Lord." How do you know its not a reference to God?

Again, who raised Jesus himself from the dead?

Lol....ok if the verse says the lord, what does John 11:25 and John 5:25 say?

How does who raised Jesus from the dead contradicts the fact that Jesus' voice would raise the dead?

LordReed:
As a human being.

So you can even argue with the book itself shey?🙂

Truthseeker10:
Oga your beliefs does not matter here. Interpretation does.
You are clearly Interpreting and not repeating.
If you are claiming to repeat what the verse says, kindly show us where the verse says "in company of an archangel's voice"?
Lol....ok if the verse says the lord, what does John 11:25 and John 5:25 say?
How does who raised Jesus from the dead contradicts the fact that Jesus' voice would raise the dead?

Do you see the reason why i ignored the two of them?

A believer in God's word won't continue arguing after seeing what is written in the Bible but atheists will just be wasting your time!

MaxInDHouse:
So you can even argue with the book itself shey?🙂

Argue with a book of Jewish myths, legends and fables? That's your job.

LordReed:
Argue with a book of Jewish myths, legends and fables? That's your job.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa, i TEACH (EXPLAIN) to whoever has respect for the book as for people who don't regard it we speak with them on logics and reasonings.
If you want to reason with me on what i believe surely i will attend to you but if you want to argue about the book since you don't regard it i must not give you that chance.

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa, i TEACH (EXPLAIN) to whoever has respect for the book as for people who don't regard it we speak with them on logics and reasonings.
If you want to reason with me on what i believe surely i will attend to you but if you want to argue about the book since you don't regard it i must not give you that chance.

You are the one who argues about the book. I have accepted what it is, a compendium of Jewish myths, legends and fables. Myths, legends and fables don't lend themselves very well to logic and sound reasoning that is why you have to argue and twist its words to fit whatever tale you want to tell.

LordReed:
You are the one who argues about the book. I have accepted what it is, a compendium of Jewish myths, legends and fables. Myths, legends and fables don't lend themselves very well to logic and sound reasoning that is why you have to argue and twist its words to fit whatever tale you want to tell.

Whatever you feel we have people who TRUST (BELIEVE) our book and benefiting maximally from doing so!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you feel we have people who TRUST (BELIEVE) our book and benefiting maximally from doing so!🙂

Good for you.

LordReed:
Good for you.

That's what LOGIC means to us not just arguing to win when there is no practical benefits!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
That's what LOGIC means to us not just arguing to win when there is no practical benefits!🙂

You don't get your own meaning of logic.

LordReed:
You don't get your own meaning of logic.

Check your dictionary it's not about the fruitless arguments you go about doing on Nairaland rather it's about changing the way people reason to benefit all those around you.

MaxInDHouse:
Check your dictionary it's not about the fruitless arguments you go about doing on Nairaland rather it's about changing the way people reason to benefit all those around you.

Logic in the dictionary has nothing to do with practical benefit.

LordReed:
Logic in the dictionary has nothing to do with practical benefit.

According to the dictionary it has to do with solving problems.
Please tell me what problem have you ever solved for anyone here with all your years of arguing on the religion section of Nairaland?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
According to the dictionary it has to do with solving problems.
Please tell me what problem have you ever solved for anyone here with all your years of arguing on the religion section of Nairaland?🙂

Kindly show me that dictionary definition.

I am not like you who boasts of their doing.