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IronGalaxy:
Um..
We are not, we wouldn't be doing this back and forth
It's a racial category, same as mestizo in Latin America..

So in South Africa we have 4 official race categories.

Black
White
Indian
Bi-racial/Mixed race
Colored.

but only Colored people are allowed to jump hoops via race and ethnicity as one thing. You guys are so smart. We are so slow.

seppuku:
So in South Africa we have 4 official race categories.

Black
White
Indian
Bi-racial/Mixed race
Colored.

but only Colored people are allowed to jump hoops via race and ethnicity as one thing. You guys are so smart. We are so slow.

Yes, you're slow..

IronGalaxy:
Yes, you're slow..

Gayton Mckenzie must be one of those "black" mixed race colored people.

Once he leaves South Africa if mistaken for black the rest of us must just be slow.

Gotcha!

seppuku:
Gayton Mckenzie must be one of those "black" mixed race colored people.

Once he leaves South Africa if mistaken for black the rest of us must just be slow.

Gotcha!

Even in topics that are not about "right" or "wrong".. you want to assume the position of being right.. People with this attitude rarely learn anything

seppuku:
Gayton Mckenzie must be one of those "black" mixed race colored people.

Once he leaves South Africa if mistaken for black the rest of us must just be slow.

Gotcha!

There are colored people mistaken for hispanics and arabs, so this is not the "gotcha" moment you think it is

IronGalaxy:
There are colored people mistaken for hispanics and arabs, so this is not the "gotcha" moment you think it is

That's because those two groups of people are heavily mixed race people if you didn't know.

seppuku:
That's because those two groups of people are heavily mixed race people if you didn't know.

Colored people can look like all these groups owing to their distinction of having the highest genetic mix in the world..

IronGalaxy:
Even in topics that are not about "right" or "wrong".. you want to assume the position of being right.. People with this attitude rarely learn anything

I am not assuming that I am right. I am flushing out your argument. In the end the evidence is presented and its irrelevant if you convince me or not. The information is there for all to see.

Sonnobax15:

Not bad...

He only wanted to see his society being cleaned up,and that's what every sensible person would do

You guys should be talking about who shot him and not by digging out his past posts that doesn't matter any more

past posts will always matter so we need to be careful what we write as the Internet is forever

seppuku:
I am not assuming that I am right. I am flushing out your argument. In the end the evidence is presented and its irrelevant if you convince me or not. The information is there for all to see.

Sorry buddy, there's nothing to flush here. Colored is a real racial category that exists both in SA and Namibia,, you saying otherwise doesn't nullify their existence..

IronGalaxy:
Colored people can look like all these groups owing to their distinction of having the highest genetic mix in the world..

Ergo they are mixed race people who are culturally or ethnically "colored".

Hispanic or Latino people are not a race of people which is why you have White hispanics as well.

Colored people are not a race of people which is why we can tolerate people like Gayton claiming he is a colored.

nairalanda1:
He's not being xenophobic

The issue is, most of us Nigerians tend to see emigration in terms of remittances. People living in the country that emigrants go to tend to see and often times bear the bad side of illict immigration

In South Africa a lot of poor people are being , for example , forced to compete for jobs with immigrants. Which leads to them losing out because the immigrant does the job for a lower salary. That and other things.

competition is a feature of the system. Survival of the fittest(lowest salary collector)

And anyway here in Nigeria once upon a time we chased out thousands of ghanians in the name of illegal immigration. And some of you want to do the same to others. No be xenophobic things be that?


I did not say that xenophobic attacks in south Africa are okay o.

we chased them cos they chased us first actually

callmemakaveli:
Of course he didn't expect them to fold arms and watch him evict them. Na him do himself He had it coming.

do you have it coming of you get got by your tenants when refuse to pay rent?
Keep that same energy when the next evicter comes with the thunder

IronGalaxy:
Sorry buddy, there's nothing to flush here. Colored is a real racial category that exists both in SA and Namibia,, you saying otherwise doesn't nullify their existence..

I can understand how coloreds want to hang on to an outdated non scientific racial designation because they are emotionally invested in the term, however please don't expect the rest of us in the rest of the world to indulge in that delusional thinking.

New races are not developed in less than 10,000 years.

seppuku:
Ergo they are mixed race people who are culturally or ethnically "colored".

Hispanic or Latino people are not a race of people which is why you have White hispanics as well.

Colored people are not a race of people which is why we can tolerate people like Gayton claiming he is a colored.

The bolded is definitely not true. How does a mixed person of Brazil have a "colored" culture? You keep putting emphasis on the "mixed" aspect, and ignore the culture. Culture is what makes a mixed person colored

i know Latino is not a race, eg a Black woman from Venezuela is a Black Latina

seppuku:
I can understand how coloreds want to hang on to an outdated non scientific racial designation because they are emotionally invested in the term, however please don't expect the rest of us in the rest of the world to indulge in that delusional thinking.

New races are not developed in less than 10,000 years.

What you choose to indulge in, it's your own cross to bear; however, you don't play down people's identities because you like it

IronGalaxy:
The bolded is definitely not true. How does a mixed person of Brazil have a "colored" culture? You keep putting emphasis on the "mixed" aspect, and ignore the culture. Culture is what makes a mixed person colored

If a colored person travels to Brazil and he is asked what is your "race"How does he respond without explaining that to be colored is to be Mixed race.

If Gatyon travels to Brazil and is asked what is your race. How does he respond?

seppuku:
If a colored person travels to Brazil and he is asked what is your "race"How does he respond without explaining that to be colored is to be Mixed race.

Again, still emphasizing on the mixed race aspect..

seppuku:
If a colored person travels to Brazil and he is asked what is your "race"How does he respond without explaining that to be colored is to be Mixed race.

If Gatyon travels to Brazil and is asked what is your race. How does he respond?

Tyla already explained the same question to the Americans.. those who cared to understand, understood

IronGalaxy:
Tyla already explained the same question to the Americans.. those who cared to understand, understood

She didn't explain anything. She simply repeated the fact that she was colored with explaining what it meant.

She could have just stated I come from a community of people who are of mixed racial heritage but we refer to ourselves as colored with a distinct language, culture and way of life.

Trevor Noah explained this perfectly in an interview he and AKA were once on in America and I understood the concept clearly. AKA( God rest his soul) being a true colored struggled to convey what it was to be colored.

seppuku:
She didn't explain anything. She simply repeated the fact that she was colored with explaining what it meant.

She could have just stated I come from a community of people who are of mixed racial heritage but we refer to ourselves as colored with a distinct language, culture and way of life.

Trevor Noah explained this perfectly in an interview he and AKA were once on in America and I understood the concept clearly. AKA( God rest his soul) being a true colored struggled to convey what it was to be colored.

But that's exactly what she said, more than once even

IronGalaxy:
But that's exactly what she said, more than once even

That's what she "clarified" after the fact/backlash not when she was on the breakfast club.

seppuku:
That's what she "clarified" after the fact/backlash not when she was on the breakfast club.

No, Seppuku.. She mentioned her colored heritage many times before that Breakfast Club interview.. and every time she did, she faced backlash as she was accused of "looking down on black people" blah blah.. so her team advised her to avoid this question in the Breakfast Club interview..

IronGalaxy:
No, Seppuku.. She mentioned her colored heritage many times before that Breakfast Club interview.. and every time she did, she faced backlash as she was accused of "looking down on black people" blah blah.. so her team advised her to avoid this question in the Breakfast Club interview..

Please post an interview she did before the breakfast club debacle. Let me educate myself.

seppuku:
Please post an interview she did before the breakfast club debacle. Let me educate myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWVGfXkx5Bs

IronGalaxy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWVGfXkx5Bs

That's a snipit of an interview and then the rest is commentary by other people. Where is that specific interview. I have searched. I can't find it.

seppuku:
That's a snipit of an interview and then the rest is commentary by other people. Where is that specific interview. I have searched. I can't find it.

A snippet of her explaining innit? Even explaining how that term might be problematic in the US, this was way before that Breakfast Club interview.. I've seen the entire video btw, but even I can't find the full one anymore

IronGalaxy:
A snippet on the interview explaining innit? way before that Breakfast Club interview.. I've seen the entire video btw, but even I can't the full one anymore

So we have to go by your word then since the internet has pulled all evidence of interviews before the breakfast club interview but we still have the one of Trevor and AKA

Shame.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MldH4-35sI8

seppuku:
So we have to go by your word then since the internet has pulled all evidence of interviews before the breakfast club interview but we still have the one of Trevor and AKA

Shame.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MldH4-35sI8

Yup, let's act as if you didn't see her explain what colored was in that video. Yu're dragging a non-issue here

IronGalaxy:
Yup, let's act as if you didn't see her explain what colored was in that video. Yu're dragging a non-issue here

Trevor explains it to the Americans, no uproar.

Casper explains to the Americans, no uproar.

AKA manages to explain it to the Americans, no uproar.

I guess they were just pissed off at the way Tyla explains hers.

Those Americans!

seppuku:
Trevor explains it to the Americans, no uproar.

Casper explains to the Americans, no uproar.

AKA manages to explain it to the Americans, no uproar.

I guess they were just pissed off at the way Tyla explains hers.

Those Americans!

again. Let's not act as if you didn't see her explain her heritage on that clip I uploaded, even if it was short.. What was fundamentally wrong with it? Nothing..

IronGalaxy:
again. Let's not act as if you didn't see her explain her heritage on that clip I uploaded, even if it was short.. What was fundamentally wrong with it? Nothing..

Is colored a racial category or a culture.

I say it's a culture. You say it's a racial category but of course I can't espouse that view because Seppuku is not a South African and should mind his own business you must be the one who knows better

Here's a video from one of your own then. Notice throughout his narrative, he never equates the term colored with a "racial" category.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXx9q4i9zSI