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Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by bobestman(m): 5:34pm On Dec 23, 2025
A generation of blind men following a blind religion created to control them. How can the Romans he spoke against give you a complete history of what he taught? What you all follow are all European fabrication which is different from his true message

When you see truth like this you guys are no longer disunited but will unite to paint everything evil yet non of you can dispute everything he wrote.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 5:50pm On Dec 23, 2025
bobestman:
A generation of blind men following a blind religion created to control them. How can the Romans he spoke against give you a complete history of what he taught? What you all follow are all European fabrication which is different from his true message

When you see truth like this you guys are no longer disunited but will unite to paint everything evil yet non of you can dispute everything he wrote.
This is you proving
People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter", Denis Diderot

Did you not see me counter his arguments? Come and prove me wrong if you can.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 6:16pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
I once say to a friend that God is the same person we call Satan... They all laugh at me... But no qwarm we gather dey...
Why will they not laugh at you gon gon. grin grin grin grin

So God is his enemy eh?

So you are both "you" and "your own enemy"?

So your enemy who goes about spoiling your work, is the same person as you, right?

Na wa ooo, some people are raving m....and they don't know it shocked
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by bobestman(m): 6:16pm On Dec 23, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
This is you proving
People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter", Denis Diderot

Did you not see me counter his arguments? Come and prove me wrong if you can.
You countered nothing. What he wrote is the pure truth many can never understand now
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker:
bobestman:
You countered nothing. What he wrote is the pure truth many can never understand now
The thread shows you are lying for the counter has been there since yesterday and today and as the thread shows no one challenges it. So you are just showing that like the op, you are both Lieyarz
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by bobestman(m): 6:48pm On Dec 23, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
The thread shows you are lying for the counter has been there since yesterday and today and as the thread shows no one challenges it. So you are just showing that like the op, you are both Lieyarz
You can't counter the truth. It's just chochocho
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 6:55pm On Dec 23, 2025
bobestman:
You can't counter the truth. It's just chochocho
The thread proves you are a Lieyar already, for it shows that even you cannot counter, so you are the one lying chochocho since you cannot counter.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 7:36pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
Why will they not laugh at you gon gon. grin grin grin grin

So God is his enemy eh?

So you are both "you" and "your own enemy"?

So your enemy who goes about spoiling your work, is the same person as you, right?

Na wa ooo, some people are raving m....and they don't know it shocked
It will be long before you will understand, He said in Bible I create evil and good... He didn't say someone else create the evil... Even when the Israeli the want to leave Egypt, the same God have to go back and harden the mind of Pharao... But you never see everything different in that.. That's why he says my people are perish because they lack knowledge... Almighty God did not state anywhere that no one should question Him... But all is well

Ask yourself why it easy to crusify Jesus but Satan was left alone... Normally there is no explanation. I can say to you that will justify but wait and reason this statement

It was said in the Bible that Death is Wages of Sin, but in real life both the righteous and sinner will surely Die...
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 8:05pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
It will be long before you will understand, He said in Bible I create evil and good... He didn't say someone else create the evil... Even when the Israeli the want to leave Egypt, the same God have to go back and harden the mind of Pharao... But you never see everything different in that.. That's why he says my people are perish because they lack knowledge... Almighty God did not state anywhere that no one should question Him... But all is well

Ask yourself why it easy to crusify Jesus but Satan was left alone... Normally there is no explanation. I can say to you that will justify but wait and reason this statement

It was said in the Bible that Death is Wages of Sin, but in real life both the righteous and sinner will surely Die...
So because He created evil and good now means He is Satan his very own enemy who goes about spoiling His work?

Ha, understanding is very very very far from you ooooo

And because he dealt with the Enemy of His children who kept them in Bondage for 430 years or so by making sure that the guy collect and no escape for him, now means Satan in your convoluted mind.

And what has Jesus's crucifixion got to do with Satan who when God is ready for him, he will be dealt with final final, thrown into the lake of fire eh?

Then the wages of sin is death ehen what is the problem there? The Righteous sleep which is what Jesus says of his Loved ones see Lazarus and the young girl.

They pass on to sleep which is what people call death but Sinners surely die which is what you see when sinners are dying they squeeze and fight and claw on to life but alas they die.

We the children of God look forward to passing on for we know we die not, but go to sleep as the psalms say, "He gives his beloved, sleep".

But for you people, you scream and squeeze your faces when death comes for you, crying and begging not to die.

So better better undisputed difference dey!
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:15pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
So because He created evil and good now means He is Satan his very own enemy who goes about spoiling His work?

Ha, understanding is very very very far from you ooooo

And because he dealt with the Enemy of His children who kept them in Bondage for 430 years or so by making sure that the guy collect and no escape for him, now means Satan in your convoluted mind.

And what has Jesus's crucifixion got to do with Satan who when God is ready for him, he will be dealt with final final, thrown into the lake of fire eh?

Then the wages of sin is death ehen what is the problem there? The Righteous sleep which is what Jesus says of his Loved ones see Lazarus and the young girl.

They pass on to sleep which is what people call death but Sinners surely die which is what you see when sinners are dying they squeeze and fight and claw on to life but alas they die.

We the children of God look forward to passing on for we know we die not, but go to sleep as the psalms say, "He gives his beloved, sleep".

But for you people, you scream and squeeze your faces when death comes for you, crying and begging not to die.

So better better undisputed difference dey!
Change the quote as you like but the truth will leave on, do you ever ask the reason why Jesus was crusified? It not because of your sin, it because he was trying to to expose the lie that you can only have contact with your maker through your pastor... His preaching was base on that you are the temple and if you are the temple you can talk to your creator directly
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:17pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
So because He created evil and good now means He is Satan his very own enemy who goes about spoiling His work?

Ha, understanding is very very very far from you ooooo

And because he dealt with the Enemy of His children who kept them in Bondage for 430 years or so by making sure that the guy collect and no escape for him, now means Satan in your convoluted mind.

And what has Jesus's crucifixion got to do with Satan who when God is ready for him, he will be dealt with final final, thrown into the lake of fire eh?

Then the wages of sin is death ehen what is the problem there? The Righteous sleep which is what Jesus says of his Loved ones see Lazarus and the young girl.

They pass on to sleep which is what people call death but Sinners surely die which is what you see when sinners are dying they squeeze and fight and claw on to life but alas they die.

We the children of God look forward to passing on for we know we die not, but go to sleep as the psalms say, "He gives his beloved, sleep".

But for you people, you scream and squeeze your faces when death comes for you, crying and begging not to die.

So better better undisputed difference dey!
Even when it is time for Jesus he say I wish this cup can pass over me... To tells you every soul don't want to die

Even you no matter how righteous you are on the day of your last breath you will gasp for air.. Water will roll out of your eyes before you will give up... Tell me anything else
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:31pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
Even when it is time for Jesus he say I wish this cup can pass over me... To tells you every soul don't want to die

Even you no matter how righteous you are on the day of your last breath you will gasp for air.. Water will roll out of your eyes before you will give up... Tell me anything else
Now you have changed questions yet again after I answered your last questions
grin grin

Anyway I will answer you yet again.

So? Was He not going to be tortured and murdered by evil doers like you? So of course it would be necessary for Him to gather all the strength required to go through it. No biggie

You wish but no matter how much you wish it to be like you people's death, it can never be so. grin grin ; grin That kind and even worse is for your kind.

Now I expect to run to another one after I don quench this one like the last one
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 9:35pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
It will be long before you will understand, He said in Bible I create evil and good... He didn't say someone else create the evil... Even when the Israeli the want to leave Egypt, the same God have to go back and harden the mind of Pharao... But you never see everything different in that.. That's why he says my people are perish because they lack knowledge... Almighty God did not state anywhere that no one should question Him... But all is well

Ask yourself why it easy to crusify Jesus but Satan was left alone... Normally there is no explanation. I can say to you that will justify but wait and reason this statement

It was said in the Bible that Death is Wages of Sin, but in real life both the righteous and sinner will surely Die...
Pz creates toilet roll, good and Omo detergent which is a poison therefore evil, yet have you for once said that the company and other companies like this should be closed down? No.

Also when you promised to deal with a person you hate is it that you would send them a bag of rice and groundnut oil or you would make them suffer to ensure that when they hear your name they run?

And looking at how God deals with His enemies do you not see that He must be setting up something if He has not offd Satan yet He let humans murder His Son? Matthew 21:28-46 already gives you a hint.

Even the story of Lazarus tells you that there are dying and there are dying as you cannot compare Judas Iscariot's and Pharoah's dying with Moses's and Samuel's dying. They are not the same.

So if you are the reasonable and truthful, even you can appreciate that you are talking rubbish
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:37pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
So? Was He not going to be tortured and murdered by evil doers like you? So of course it would be necessary for Him to gather all the strength required to go through it. No biggie

You wish but no matter how much you wish it to be like you people's death, it can never be so. grin grin ; grin That kind and even worse is for your kind.
With your response you are equating him to ordinary human.... He is special for God Sake.. But what do I know self... Poor me... Even when Solomon pick another mans wife, he still choose him, so who are you? Open your eyes bro.... I'm not fighting with your believe.. I'm only trying to let you know that he is almighty the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and every other days with different motives
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:40pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
Change the quote as you like but the truth will leave on, do you ever ask the reason why Jesus was crusified? It not because of your sin, it because he was trying to to expose the lie that you can only have contact with your maker through your pastor... His preaching was base on that you are the temple and if you are the temple you can talk to your creator directly
Ah ah, na so the answers burst your soul you spoke twice? grin grin

You are just rambling incoherently grin grin grin

Oh boy, guy thought nobody could answer the questions as you could not answer them when they used it to make you fall grin grin

And then the people around you could not answer either. So you thought they were unanswerable grin grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:40pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
Now you have changed questions yet again after I answered your last questions
grin grin

Anyway I will answer you yet again.

So? Was He not going to be tortured and murdered by evil doers like you? So of course it would be necessary for Him to gather all the strength required to go through it. No biggie

You wish but no matter how much you wish it to be like you people's death, it can never be so. grin grin ; grin That kind and even worse is for your kind.

Now I expect to run to another one after I don quench this one like the last one
You mentioned something about been touture... Who create evil and who create good let start from that
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:41pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
Ah ah, na so the answers burst your soul you spoke twice? grin grin

You are just rambling incoherently grin grin grin

Oh boy, guy thought nobody could answer the questions as you could not answer them when they used it to make you fall grin grin

And then the people around you could not answer either. So you thought they were unanswerable grin grin grin grin
Yet you answer nothing...
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:46pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
With your response you are equating him to ordinary human.... He is special for God Sake.. But what do I know self... Poor me... Even when Solomon pick another mans wife, he still choose him, so who are you? Open your eyes bro.... I'm not fighting with your believe.. I'm only trying to let you know that he is almighty the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and every other days with different motives
Now that I have answered you and you can not answer, you have moved to equating with another human grin grin grin

You just dey disgrace yourself wella grin grin grin

Did I not say you will move to another question? grin grin grin

Now it's Solomon that picked another man's wife? Na wa oooo, your soul don scatter true true. Not to talk of the fact that God rejected Solomon and never took him back again.

So which other rubbish you wan ask? I ready for you.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:47pm On Dec 23, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Pz creates toilet roll, good and Omo detergent which is a poison therefore evil, yet have you for once said that the company and other companies like this should be closed down? No.

Also when you promised to deal with a person you hate is it that you would send them a bag of rice and groundnut oil or you would make them suffer to ensure that when they hear your name they run?

And looking at how God deals with His enemies do you not see that He must be setting up something if He has not offd Satan yet He let humans murder His Son? Matthew 21:28-46 already gives you a hint.

Even the story of Lazarus tells you that there are dying and there are dying as you cannot compare Judas Iscariot's and Pharoah's dying with Moses's and Samuel's dying. They are not the same.

So if you are the reasonable and truthful, even you can appreciate that you are talking rubbish
Good and bad was created by Him(God) nothing on earth happen without his notice... But you are here defending what you can't defend... Laugh on you.... Reasonable and truthful is not of you except you want to lie he never ask you that.. Any thing you think within you is of your own...
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:49pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
Now that I have answered you and you can not answer, you have moved to equating with another human grin grin grin

You just dey disgrace yourself wella grin grin grin

Did I not say you will move to another question? grin grin grin

Now it's Solomon that picked another man's wife? Na wa oooo, your soul don scatter true true. Not to talk of the fact that God rejected Solomon and never took him back again.

So which other rubbish you wan ask? I ready for you.
I don't know I'm chatting with a dumb man, who can't reason do I mention anything beyond Bible which happen to be the manual for Christianityhuh
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:50pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
You mentioned something about been touture... Who create evil and who create good let start from that
See am another question yet again, you no dey shame.

So because He created evil something that was outside man, man took it up and started doing it, so He responsible for the man's doing eh?

Like saying the producer of sniper is responsible for the people who use it to unalive people.

You must be very disturbed
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:51pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
Yet you answer nothing...
Because you said nothing grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:53pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
See am another question yet again, you no dey shame.

So because He created evil something that was outside man, man took it up and started doing it, so He responsible for the man's doing eh?

Like saying the producer of sniper is responsible for the people who use it to unalive people.

You must be very disturbed
I'm glad you accept he create evil i the first place, the creator of snipper have a primary target which is to kill insects.. But can you tell me the primary objective of creating evilhuh
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:53pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
I don't know I'm chatting with a dumb man, who can't reason do I mention anything beyond Bible which happen to be the manual for Christianityhuh
See Dumbo the elephant that is so blind he can not see that He has said something wey no make sense.

What a clown giving a sweet night of laughter grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:54pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
See Dumbo the elephant that is so blind he can not see that He has said something wey no make sense.

What a clown giving a sweet night of laughter grin grin grin
If it will make you sleep well that's okay
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:56pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
I'm glad you accept he create evil i the first place, the creator of snipper have a primary target which is to kill insects.. But can you tell me the primary objective of creating evilhuh
Evil is exactly what sniper is for to get rid of pests in this case God's enemies.
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 9:56pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
If it will make you sleep well that's okay
Better Better sleep oooooo
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:57pm On Dec 23, 2025
vdestro:
Evil is exactly what sniper is for to get rid of pests in this case God's enemies.
You mean food can't kill anyonehuh Power can't kill anyone??

So pest is God enemy?? Wow so God create his own enemy
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by Dtruthspeaker: 9:57pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
Good and bad was created by Him(God) nothing on earth happen without his notice... But you are here defending what you can't defend... Laugh on you.... Reasonable and truthful is not of you except you want to lie he never ask you that.. Any thing you think within you is of your own...
I have already defended Him and I am waiting for your counter.

Instead you are repeating yourself and now added "nothing on earth happen without his notice" and resorted to attacking me (the fallacy of ad hominem) instead of the argument.

Clear, proof that even you know that you are talking rubbish because you know that like Esau, God has rejected you so in your pain you speak evil of Him. Another proof that you know all of you are Wrong
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by harjay1986: 9:59pm On Dec 23, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
I have already defended Him and I am waiting for your counter.

Instead you are repeating yourself and now added "nothing on earth happen without his notice" and resorted to attacking me (the fallacy of ad hominem) instead of the argument.

Clear, proof that even you know that you are talking rubbish because you know that like Esau, God has rejected you so in your pain you speak evil of Him. Another proof that you know all of you are Wrong
Are you Godhuh
Answer the question first
Re: Jesus Didn’t Come To Die For Your Sins; He Was Killed For Revealing The Direct by vdestro: 10:00pm On Dec 23, 2025
harjay1986:
You mean food can't kill anyonehuh Power can't kill anyone??
Come on you are being dumbino. I have answered you and now you have moved to food and power grin grin grin

The question wasn't what can kill but rather the primary objective of evil?

So now that I have answered you have moved to things not in issue so it's obvious you no get anything wey you wan say grin grin grin grin
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