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Retroactive policing. A Flashpoint like Borno doesn't need this kind of policing.

Such a shame to our Police Force

The evil you have bred has come home to roost. Their clerics have refused to tame them and they have come back to hunt them. Until Muslim cleric begin to condemn this evil, it will continue to thrive.

nairalanda1:
It is the same reason why christian leaders have never called out unknown gunmen, corrupt politicans that happen to be christian since 1999, and cults as well as violent gangs in the south. And millitants.

Nigerians prefer to call out evil that does not benefit them.

You see yourself,get sense you nor gree,one of the most currupt politician in this country is Arikulooted and you are looking for who to call out christian politician that is currupt,ok,Adams Oshiomhole,are you happy now?

ATEAMS:
That's massive..... OMOH...who come remain for barrack

During election they deploy 30 000 in a state election but deploy 1000 during insecurity and you are shouting who is still in barracks?

ussv:
Can a thousand police handle this ? Government should have deployed armed battalions.

Very small, when it gets to state election you will hear 30k police deployed to monitor state election

Deployment is always after the did has been done. Why not being proactive enough to prevent the bombing.
The community needs to be the eyes of the security agencies, those bombing do not just happen, there must have been some suspicious movements.
May God help my country.

North is the cause of this long term insurgent operating. Most of them hauled bokoharam when they started. Infact , sultan of sokoto , buhari etc praised them.

Where were the officers before?

obrian888:
You see yourself,get sense you nor gree,one of the most currupt politician in this country is Arikulooted and you are looking for who to call out christian politician that is currupt,ok,Adams Oshiomhole,are you happy now?

SO, the christians should ignore the sin because person na christian?

Charity begins at home. Una see how the muslims dey enjoy boko haram because they did not relaize the importance of that saying.

ussv:
Can a thousand police handle this ? Government should have deployed armed battalions.

1,000 armed police officers equals an armed battalion

Your argument is cyclic.

nairalanda1:
SO, the christians should ignore the sin because person na christian?

Charity begins at home. Una see how the muslims dey enjoy boko haram because they did not relaize the importance of that saying.

I disagree with this but that is a discussion for another day. I was in the media when Boko Haram started. And I clearly remember in 2009-11, the headline news was always about an Islamic cleric being murdered by these boys. Any Islamic cleric who condemned them was kpaid and the government didn't do anything until they progressed into suicide bombing and advanced terror. So the talk that Muslims kept quiet is false. If I have some time, I will bring some of those headlines to you. It was clearly in the news then and I got tired of it because Muslims were condemning it but down south, they thought they were condoning it.

buzmanjohn:
https://punchng.com/christmas-police-deploy-1000-officers-across-borno-after-mosque-bomb-blast/

Yes to further drive the narrative that there's no Christian persecution they decided to bomb their brothers


Silly and wicked
God heal the injured
Rip to the dead

blowjohn:
But I often wonder why Muslims don't condemn these bastardized sects.

They might say something like: any group of people who kills..... But they never mention the names of the groups while condemning them

They won't condemn because they don't represent love

Have you seen how Antichristain is very active in christian threads but has never for once condemned bandits and attackers with supposed ties to their religion

Razzness:
Please they should do whats is neccessary to protect lives and properties. As them bomb mosque now everywhere quite, but if to say na church them bomb, the reception would have been very much different.

well what do you expect ?
The very religion that suffered massive casualty cannot even condemn it why ?

I don't know let's ask Antichristain

SixSeven:
I disagree with this but that is a discussion for another day. I was in the media when Boko Haram started. And I clearly remember in 2009-11, the headline news was always about an Islamic cleric being murdered by these boys. Any Islamic cleric who condemned them was kpaid and the government didn't do anything until they progressed into suicide bombing and advanced terror. So the talk that Muslims kept quiet is false. If I have some time, I will bring some of those headlines to you. It was clearly in the news then and I got tired of it because Muslims were condemning it but down south, they thought they were condoning it.

This is a different matter you are talking about...I was referring to the fact that just as muslims fail to call out evil in their ranks, so do christians.

What you are talking about is basically government failure.

Finally, I did mention that SLS did call out Boko above.

Fact is, christian and muslim clerics for the most part don't call out minor evils in their ranks, as well as government based corruption in their area (calling out corruption is not just saying the President is a loota)...and that is how these issues start.

Boko haram started because people like shekau were calling out corruption in the 1990's, since the actual mainstream religious muslim leaders weren't. IN essence, if the good guys don't do their work, the bad guys will do it for them.

We christians may not have boko...but we also got a lot of the same issues. Because too many of our own clerics kept quayet.

nairalanda1:
This is a different matter you are talking about...I was referring to the fact that just as muslims fail to call out evil in their ranks, so do christians.

What you are talking about is basically government failure.

Finally, I did mention that SLS did call out Boko above.

Fact is, christian and muslim clerics for the most part don't call out minor evils in their ranks, as well as government based corruption in their area (calling out corruption is not just saying the President is a loota)...and that is how these issues start.

Boko haram started because people like shekau were calling out corruption in the 1990's, since the actual mainstream religious muslim leaders weren't. IN essence, if the good guys don't do their work, the bad guys will do it for them.

We christians may not have boko...but we also got a lot of the same issues. Because too many of our own clerics kept quayet.

What do you mean Muslims fail to call out evil in their ranks? Do you know that the mentor of Mohammed Yusuf himself was murdered after condemning his actions? Didn't Yar Adua, a Muslim president order that Yusuf be taken out dead or alive? He even gave an ultimatum to the police. This is one of the advantages of AI. Look at the screenshots yourself.

You are only able to cite Sanusi. I am telling you that as far back as 2009, Muslim clerics in the North, precisely Borno state where this evil was birthed condemned it and they were taken out. The state did nothing about it. What more can be done? You talk about minor issues. It's one thing to talk about the problems, it's another thing to be listened to. I can't forget that we eventually saw that Yusuf and Boko Haram were a tool used by the politicians to count scores just like the herdsmen that were let in during elections and now they can't control them again. It's the typical script of our politicians to bring in thugs during election and after it, they become gangsters because they have dined with the devil. The government is clearly complicit in this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePpUvfTXY7w
Back then police collect because of the way Yusuf was murdered and the guys were against the injustices of the government, something that gave them a boost for recruitment. There are educated people among them and their actions are like what attracted Mutallab and those lost souls joining ISIS to fight wetin no consain them. If the state could let its own police officers go away and did not do anything, how do you expect clerics to talk again?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVG0TiTh6B4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipGzJVQUy3I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT8Zae6O5os

Nigerian police execute sect leader


Thu 30 Jul 2009
Thursday 30 July 2009
A building which allegedly housed an Islamic sect in the Nigerian city of Maiduguri

Rooted out: A building allegedly used by the sect burns in the city of Maiduguri (AFP)
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The leader of a radical Islamic sect in northern Nigeria has been shot dead in police detention hours after being captured by the security forces, a police spokesman says.

Security forces captured radical preacher Mohammed Yusuf, the leader of a militant Islamic sect responsible for days of unrest which have killed more than 180 people and displaced thousands.

A Reuters reporter saw Yusuf at a military barracks in the northern city of Maiduguri after his capture. Yusuf had no visible injuries and was standing up. He was later transferred to the city's police headquarters, where he was killed.

"He has been killed. You can come and see his body at the state police command headquarters," said Isa Azare, spokesman for the police command in the northern city of Maiduguri.

Another policeman said Yusuf "pleaded for mercy and forgiveness before he was shot".

Footage of his bullet-riddled body was shown on state television.

Yusuf, whose Boko Haram sect wants a wider adoption of sharia (Islamic law) across Nigeria, was seized after a manhunt involving military helicopters and armed police.

Army and police earlier battled the remnants of his sect in Maiduguri after shelling his compound.

Bursts of gunfire rang out and helicopters hovered overhead as the security forces went from door to door hunting his followers.

The violence erupted when members of the group were arrested on Sunday in Bauchi state, 400 kilometres south-west of Maiduguri, on suspicion of plotting to attack a police station.

Yusuf's supporters, armed with machetes, knives, home-made hunting rifles and petrol bombs, then went on the rampage in several states across northern Nigeria, attacking churches, police stations, prisons and government buildings.

President Umaru Yar'Adua, on an official visit to Brazil, spoke by telephone with northern governors and urged traditional and religious leaders to use Friday prayers to warn people about the dangers of such sects.

"The president stated that religious groups such as Boko Haram, which seeks to disrupt the peace and security of the Nigerian state, should not be the bride of any true Muslim individual or group," his spokesman Olusegun Adeniyi said.

Nigeria's Muslim umbrella group Jama'atu Nasril Islam has already condemned the violence and backed the security forces.

Boko Haram - which means "Western education is sinful" - is loosely modelled on the Taliban movement in Afghanistan.

Its members wear long beards and consider anyone not following their strict ideology, whether Christian or Muslim, as infidels.

Its views are not espoused by the majority of Nigeria's Muslim population, the largest in sub-Saharan Africa.



National defence spokesman Colonel Mohammed Yerima said there would be a military "show of force" on Friday to reassure civilians they would be protected.

Maiduguri has borne the brunt of the fighting. Local residents said they were still too afraid to venture out despite assurances from the authorities.

"This city is like a battlefield," said Muhammed Yakubu, a local journalist and a resident of Maiduguri.

Yar'Adua has said intelligence agencies had been tracking the group for years and that its members were procuring arms and learning to make bombs to force their views on Nigerians.

He ordered the security forces to take all necessary action to "contain them once and for all".

Police in Maiduguri said the security forces had killed 90 sect members on Monday alone. Eight police officers, three prison officials and two soldiers were also killed.

In neighbouring Yobe state, police said they had recovered the bodies of 33 sect members after a gun battle near the town of Potiskum on Wednesday.

More than 50 people were killed in the initial fighting in Bauchi on Sunday.

Police said they freed 95 women and children on Wednesday being held by the sect in Maiduguri.

Its members believe their wives should not be seen by other men and their children should receive only a Koranic education.

The violence in the north is not connected to unrest in the Niger Delta in the south, where militant attacks have prevented Nigeria from pumping much above two-thirds of its oil capacity. The delta's main militant group has condemned the violence.
- Reuters

1000 police deployed for mosque bomb blast, but nothing done about killing of Christians. I smell Religious bias.

How is it that you think Muslims don't condemn Boko Haram? Of course they do it on a daily basis; the only thing is that northerners are not very active on social media, so a lot of this noise just flies under the radar. But if you listen to their radio stations or you engage them in a one-on-one conversation, you would hear what they really feel about it.

Chibuezem:
well what do you expect ?
The very religion that suffered massive casualty cannot even condemn it why ?

I don't know let's ask Antichristain

Imagine attacking your kind just to say to your kind are also being attacked

EmperorGodswill:
Any patriotic Nigerian must surely agreed with me that this government has failed us.
We need a change come 2027.
Don't think that it did not affect u today and
Who tell what tomorrow brings
you are rejoicing.
Be an agent of change
Tomorrow might be late

No matter what you do, don't vote a man from North

Would they have deployed same number if it was a church APC the terrorist organization.

Razzness:
How is it that you think Muslims don't condemn Boko Haram? Of course they do it on a daily basis; the only thing is that northerners are not very active on social media, so a lot of this noise just flies under the radar. But if you listen to their radio stations or you engage them in a one-on-one conversation, you would hear what they really feel about it.

lol they avoid mainstream media like twitter ,facebook and 2go
Antichristain a powerful Christianophobe is yet condemnn it

Fake News! Na Church the bomb, it is a Christian genocide in disguise! trump send airstrikes to Borno ooooooo🙄

Shebi na cruise una like for the country nah!!!

Razzness:
How is it that you think Muslims don't condemn Boko Haram? Of course they do it on a daily basis; the only thing is that northerners are not very active on social media, so a lot of this noise just flies under the radar. But if you listen to their radio stations or you engage them in a one-on-one conversation, you would hear what they really feel about it.

Another excuse
We have northerners who are Muslims on tiktok ,twitter facebook Gumi is an example

Gumi is mentally unstable, and he has no relevance in the North. In fact it is southern media that is giving him clout, in the North he is a lightweight cleric at best, nobody listens to him. In fact I personally only came to know about his existence on this NL.

Chibuezem:
Another excuse
We have northerners who are Muslims on tiktok ,twitter facebook Gumi is an example

Razzness:
Gumi is mentally unstable, and he has no relevance in the North. In fact it is southern media that is giving him clout, in the North he is a lightweight cleric at best, nobody listens to him. In fact I personally only came to know about his existence on this NL.

lol Even Arewa youths