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paltielx:
If they don't celebrate Christmas I can't say they're wrong by not celebrating it, Jesus Christ did not command Christians to celebrate his birthday, there's no record in the Bible that the first century Christians celebrated his birthday and there's no evidence Jesus was born that day.
Actually Christmas has pagans origin

paltielx:
If they don't celebrate Christmas I can't say they're wrong by not celebrating it, Jesus Christ did not command Christians to celebrate his birthday, there's no record in the Bible that the first century Christians celebrated his birthday and there's no evidence Jesus was born that day.
Actually Christmas has pagans origin

paxonel:
But there are records in the bible that the first century Christians celebrated their birthday and marriages?

Is birthday and marriage celebrations wrong?

paxonel:
Christianity as a religion was established by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago when Christ died and resurrected, that's why we celebrate Christmas today.
But Jehovah witnesses, they carry bible pretending to believe in Christ, but they are not. Rather, Jesus isn't part of the God head according to them.
It follows that the dead and resurrection of Jesus Christ profit them nothing. This explains why they do not celebrate Christmas.

Please beware of them.

DSS1335 post=137906718£:
. Don't you think if the celebration was necessary he would have commanded his followers to keep celebrating it in his honor just same way he did his death?

DSS1335:
What do you have to say of Pastor Williams Kumuyi of deeper life ministries who withdrew from Christmas celebration in December 2013 calling it pagans celebration?

DSS1335:
What do you have to say of Pastor Williams Kumuyi of deeper life ministries who withdrew from Christmas celebration in December 2013 calling it pagans celebration?

DSS1335:
The only recorded birthday celebration in the Bible was that of Pharaoh and king Herold. Both of them do not worship the God of the Hebrew, the progenitor of Christianity. Both birthday celebration was marked by beheading. Pharaoh has his cupbearer beheaded while Herold authorize the beheading of the outspoken John the Baptist, the same John the Baptist that Baptized Jesus. Furthermore there is no record of Jesus celebrating his birthday or his earliest Christians. Don't you think if the celebration was necessary he would have commanded his followers to keep celebrating it in his honor just same way he did his death?

Dtruthspeaker:
1) Christianity does not have pagan origins.
https://www.nairaland.com/8326278/christianity-does-not-pagan-roots#133866110

2) There is no record of in the bible that the first Christians peed and pood, played and joked, so do you say it did not happen?

Dtruthspeaker:
Jws have so perverted the bible both in word and in doctrine that no reasonable person would ever call them Christians. And this is in addition to their strange and weird behaviour and appearance which gives everybody a creepy feeling

paxonel:
Christianity as a religion was established by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago when Christ died and resurrected, that's why we celebrate Christmas today.

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Dtruthspeaker:
But Jehovah witnesses, they carry bible pretending to believe in Christ, but they are not. Rather, Jesus isn't part of the God head according to them.
It follows that the dead and resurrection of Jesus Christ profit them nothing. This explains why they do not celebrate Christmas.

Please beware of them.

paxonel:
But there are records in the bible that the first century Christians celebrated their birthday and marriages?

Is birthday and marriage celebrations wrong?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did The Commandments prohibit joy and celebration? No. So why would He Speak on it?

paxonel:
His argument that Christmas is pagan celebration does not follow.

I mean, we all know about Christ that he was born into this world as a child. So if any Christian based on this belief want to celebrate his birth, why not?

No Christian who celebrates Jesus birth worldwide has ever mentioned any pagan god, or did Kumuyi see any such Christian?

Dtruthspeaker:
He explained that he felt it was pagan since it appeared to have coincided with a pagan festival or something.

That is a reasonable and understandable ground. But I don't think the reason supplied by JW is reasonable.

Janosky:
LoL, just kuantinu in your ....

But study the screenshot.

Janosky:
[b]Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Can you name the first century believer who celebrated birthday?

Your Bible is filled with records of marriages hosted by God's people .
Jesus attended marriage feast, that's a sign of approval.

Which birthday celebration did he attend or host?
Oga, be reasonable jare.

paxonel:
Who is this one? Do you understand the argument at all?
same question i asked the person i quoted

The person I quoted said "there's no record in the Bible that the first century Christians celebrated Jesus birthday.

And i asked him, But there are records in the bible that the first century Christians celebrated their birthday and marriages?

He could not answer the question.
ok, how about school party children celebrates in schools?

Is there any record in the bible to show that Jesus approved children party in schools?

Or una dey Jones?

Janosky:
Oga,I have 2 question for you?
Which of the believer whom Jesus converted & was eye witness of Jesus death &resurrection that celebrated Christ birthday?

Oga, are you copying Jesus/ Paul /early believers@ 1 Corinthians 11:1 or you're copying Emperor Constantine?
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Janosky:
Jesus celebrated marriage.
Many times,he spoke positively about marriage.
Did Jesus speak or encourage annual birthday celebration?
No.
Are you wiser than Jesus?
No,therefore stick to Jesus/Paul example,1 Cor 11:1.

The real question you don't want to face;
Did the Commandments approve birthday celebration?

Your Bible did not say disObey/honour your mother & your father.

Did that mean your Bible approve of disobedience to parents?

MaxInDHouse:
Topic of your thread:
Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians
So Deeperlife, MFM and others who don't celebrate Christmas are also not Christians!🤣

paxonel:
Deeper life, MFM and others have their reasons not to celebrate Christmas. This reasons are not because they are not Christians.

paxonel:
What i know is that, it is not unlawful to have reasons to celebrate anything worth celebrating even though the celebration may not be necessary

DSS1335:
Same Jesus who taught far and wide to the meek, to the lowly and to the haughty Pharisees and Sadducees about the kingdom of God

paxonel:
what is the kingdom of God that Jesus Christ thought?

You people read bible to look at patterns thereby neglecting purpose

paxonel:
wrong deduction

Deeper life, MFM and others have their reasons not to celebrate Christmas. This reasons are not because they are not Christians.
But for Jehovah witnesses, the reason is clearly because they are not Christians because they trickly reject Jesus Christ which Deeper life, MFM and others have not done.

If one do not properly analyse your doctrines, they will never know that by your tricks, you reject Jesus Christ.

Many of you don't even know that!
You are just floating in your kingdom halls.

Watchtower is another religion entirely from Christianity.

We also have similar others like Ekankaar, Amok, etc. All these religions make reference to Jesus Christ in the bible too, like Jehovah witnesses.
Even Muslims do

Dtruthspeaker:
Fallacy of circular reasoning and red herring. Thus, you are talking rubbish and have no valid counter to give

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are proven the accusations True by your forgery and editing of my post