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Arostar2023:
Which Christians absorbed Santa? It was the world that created and accepted Santa not the church. Maybe you should also tell us who created the tradition of eating chicken during Christmas I guess we should stop eating rice and chicken on Christmas because Satanists were involved in Christmas.

So Muslims acknowledge Santa?
I'm talking A, you're talking F. Because you have no concrete thing to say.

OKOATA:
I don't know what I'm talking about. Who created satan? Is it not the same God that gave Satan permission to persecute Job? So in your reasoning you didn't know it was God that asked Satan to test Jesus? You don't even know the word of God. Just carry extremism for head.

Lol

So, God created Satan to set Satan up as a rival to Himself?

So it was also God that asked Satan to test Jesus his only begotten son and from what some of you believe God himself?

Go and eat your Christmas Chicken, it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about.

Must we demonize everything? Tree, Santa, food and all that makes Christmas memorable is now been traced to some imaginary idol.

Life is short, enjoy every moment let's you say in your old age I wish I had a free mind.

Me I was just thinking about it, that in 1959, what was Santa in Nigeria

Fast forward 2025, Nigerians even want to put on pyjamas for Christmas. Hmmm😂

And we don't have these trees 🎄 so what are we doing? Are we imitating or 🤔

this op ,E sure me he's a member of mummy G.I CHURCH

jesusjnr2020:
I've been hearing the name Santa since my childhood days, especially through movies with Christmas themes, but didn't make too much of it, until a few years back I actually saw a post that said Santa was an anagram of Satan, it sounded quite convincing though up til now I haven't come to any conclusion about it.

However being aware of the cunning nature and devices of the devil won't be surprised if that's actually true.

It also beggars belief how Santa became associated with Christmas if it was indeed the celebration of the birth of Christ.

Or could it be specifically deviced to distract souls from Christ?

So many questions that warrant answers concerning the relationship between Santa and Christmas celebration.

God bless.

Na so so follow dem de follow.
No knowledge

I feel a Muslim person is behind all these write up out of Jealousy.

You guys shld leave us and our globally untitled style of celebration's alone..

Santa or no Santa.. Enjoy your Christmas..

Ignorant is a deadly decease . This write up shows the low level at which some educated illiterate Nigerians reason with their low IQ .

We lack knowledge and wisdom to progress and invents because we lack ability to research and self development.

Google is there to tell you all you need about Santa Claus .

Santa Claus has nothing to do with Bible or religion, he's a philanthropy in the past that started the habit of giving children surprise gifts on Christmas day . People recognized him and immitate what he did until today .

Christmas is a celebration of LOVE and Gifts to humanity.

Santa means Satan it is a Christmas clown to amuse children, Christmas although a useless holiday just like st valentine' day b4 u come for me do your research. Jesus wasn't born on the 25th 25th is st. Nicolas day the man who shares gifts out of generousity it is a fabricated day to make it 7 days before new year which is another lie. January is not the new year. New year starts when the rain starts. Ciao

jude33084:
Jehovah false withness don drop post

Fixed

sprints1:
Santa means Satan it is a Christmas clown to amuse children, Christmas although a useless holiday just like st valentine' day b4 u come for me do your research. Jesus wasn't born on the 25th 25th is st. Nicolas day the man who shares gifts out of generousity it is a fabricated day to make it 7 days before new year which is another lie. January is not the new year. New year starts when the rain starts. Ciao

If rain starts in February then that is the new year,if it doesn't start till April,then we wait till April for new year. smh
Conspiracy theorists.

SixSeven:
Me I was just thinking about it, that in 1959, what was Santa in Nigeria

Fast forward 2025, Nigerians even want to put on pyjamas for Christmas. Hmmm😂

And we don't have these trees 🎄 so what are we doing? Are we imitating or 🤔

We don't have apples growing in Nigeria so all the apples around,are we imitating(mimicking in your voice)?

thorpido:
We don't have apples growing in Nigeria so all the apples around,are we imitating(mimicking in your voice)?

There was never a better representation of apples and oranges like this post.

vdestro:
Or is it December that we all used to remember for being the month of Christ's birth something good and pure now being called dirty (detty) and now openly calling on people to do all things dirty?

Its detty not dirty

If you do dirty things in that period, put the blame on youself. We have black friday n we know what it means, if you have another meaning for it...blame your mind

He's a Christmas myth. Not real.

femi4:
Its detty not dirty

If you do dirty things in that period, put the blame on youself. We have black friday n we know what it means, if you have another meaning for it...blame your mind

See as you just open mouth dey talk without cross checking your facts.

Simple googling it, would have told you this

"detty december is pidgin for dirty December."

Wikipedia
Detty December (Nigeria)
The term Detty is a corruption of "dirty"

See as guilty conscience dey work you.

You are the one who does detty detty things that is why you are here complaining even black friday that I didn't talk about you add am join but you sef know, that's why your conscience dey judge you bad bad.

jesusjnr2020:
I've been hearing the name Santa since my childhood days, especially through movies with Christmas themes, but didn't make too much of it, until a few years back I actually saw a post that said Santa was an anagram of Satan, it sounded quite convincing though up til now I haven't come to any conclusion about it.

However being aware of the cunning nature and devices of the devil won't be surprised if that's actually true.

It also beggars belief how Santa became associated with Christmas if it was indeed the celebration of the birth of Christ.

Or could it be specifically deviced to distract souls from Christ?

So many questions that warrant answers concerning the relationship between Santa and Christmas celebration.

God bless.

The greatest issue we have as Nigerians is our love for conspiracy theory snd unfortunately the religious world particularly so called commited Christian are the first to accept conspiracy theories like this.

A post down here actually mentioned the real reason but he was quick to debunk it himself. I have said this here before Christianity and its traditions and culture have grown over the years as a result of the lives and choices of the community. As long as it's in line with God's word then it was unanimously accepted.

Santa Clause is a modern remake of an ancient perosn who actually lived. If I remember correctly it was a brand that gave it the current look of red and white and an old man with beards and living in the north pole and other mystical things. It was a marketing gimmick that just stuck because it was rooted in some reality and because it didnt contradict anything within the Christian teaching it wasn't tackled by broader Christian communities.

The original figure was Saint Nicolas. Actually the word Santa Clause is the English version of the word Saint Nicolas

Santa - saint
Clause - Nicolas

Originally it was in Dutch as Sinterklaas which still means Saint Nicolas

So the name literally means Saint Nicolas not Satan. Simple google would have told you that but no you just like conspiracy theory.

We continue. When the Dutch moved into modern day New York they akresdybhad the tradition of Sinterklaas and it just became popular.

Now the main history.

Saint Nicolas was a Bishop born in what is now modern day Turkiey. He was known to secretly gift children snd families gift during Christmas time mostly gifting children from poor homes. Some reports say he also encouraged children year round to be good so that they can merit gifts from God (I can only assume thats why we have the modern day verison of good list and naughty list) anyway catholic history tells that even after his death in AD 270 many people in the local community still kept receiving gifts and miracles on the eve of Christmas so it became a tradition that spread and was accepted by the church. He was also made a Saint so his popularity stuck.

Anyway back to when the Dutch populated new York in the 1800s and ealry 1900s they brought this tradition. Books and stage plays were then written about this tradition with different views of him like being jolly, being old, being big, etc and the Coke company just solidified that image of red and white and it exploded going beyond even being religious to just being a social thing.

Many events today have the same history. The American Easter bunny is a modern remake of the Easter season. Halloween was originally All Halos eve which was and is still the day before a catholic feast day where we pray for the souls of all those who have died. Halloween was just modernised and commercialed into what we have today but Originally Christian communities would dress up as a saint to remember them.

So please don't live your life strapped to every conspiracy theory out there.

For the Christmas's tree I had to research this but again also it is a modern version of ancient practices. Ealry Christians would use trees to symbolise life. They used a particular tree though called evergreen tree. The tradition started in Europe and then Germans introduced it to the UK who introduced it to Americans who are the kings of modernising things and making it less spiritual and traditional.

Santa is a Rev. father carrying out alms giving

Santa is Satan in a Red Garb

Let no man deceive you - Jesus Christ

Santa is S.a.t.a.n in a Red Garb

Let no man deceive you - Jesus Christ

sprints1:
Santa means Satan it is a Christmas clown to amuse children, Christmas although a useless holiday just like st valentine' day b4 u come for me do your research. Jesus wasn't born on the 25th 25th is st. Nicolas day the man who shares gifts out of generousity it is a fabricated day to make it 7 days before new year which is another lie. January is not the new year. New year starts when the rain starts. Ciao

Everyone in the world knows jesus wasnt born in December but if you did your research well then you'd know that Christmas was choosen for multiple reasons.

As ealry as AD 204 Christians were alresdy celebrating Christmas. Thats just around 200 years after jesus died so its a very old tradition. The tradition was partly influenced by Jewish understanding. In that time period it was believed that prophets or people who served God died only on the day they were conceived not born o but when they were conceived in their mothers womb (it was an ancient belief dont come for me, I don't know why). Anyway according to catholic calculations Jesus died on the passover which is March 25 so 9 months after that would naturally be December 25th. So that was their first claim but then the catholic church likes to double down and have multiple reasons for doing things so the second reason was that the second half of December is generally when winter is cooling a little and there is more sunlight. So again the early church being very theological and reading meaning into things (much like how we read meaning into everything now) decided that since Christ is the light of the world then the later half of December when light is rising more was again a fitting time to exoress christ as the light of the world and they just stuck with 25th.

But the most popular reason came much later. When Christianity took over Rome it had one major issue which was the end of the year celebration of the sun god which was a pagan celebration but had become very intertwined with the roman people. So as much as rome had lots of Christians they still struggled with than end of year celebration which began 7 days before the end of the year (they already knew about astrology and how many days made a year at that time) anyway the Bishop of Rome then decided that they needed to do something about it but knew that saying it was bad or condemning it would cause many issues with the converts. So since the date coincided with the ancient celebration of Christmas, the decree was made saying that rather than worshiping the sun god celebrate the son of God's birthday. That's the most popular event that most people remember about choosing Dec 25th as Christmas even though it had already existed for years before that event.

Now saint Nicolas actually existed and he was a Bishop of modern day Turkiey. He was a charitable Bishop that gave gifts in secret. The modern remake of him simply commercialised him but the name itself santa Clause means Saint Nicolas in English.

Negroid001:
Another pagan incorporation into christainity.
People don't ask questions.

I asked my Crk teacher in Jss1 and he told me to not question God. One catholic babe in my class told me he is saint Nicholas, as how na😂. Went to the cyber cafe to do research and it's mixed information.
From sources citing European folklore origin back to the saint Nicholas bull****.

One thing is certain though. The Santa we know today with the red outfit was made popular from ads in the 1930's by coca cola. And before you know, christains absorb everything, including what they have no idea about the origin.

If you did your research well and didn't rely on your own knowledge you'd have found out that the name itself santa Clause is Latin for saint Nicolas. And if you researched enough you'd know that he was a real Bishop who gave secrete gifts usually the day before Christmas to poor people in his community. If you researched enough you'd know that celebrating saint Nicolas has been there for ages and it was the Dutch who introduced the tradition to the US who went on to commercialise it. If you researched well you'd have found out that is not in fact a modern day tradition but one that has existed since the 1000s. But of course you didn't research.

vdestro:
See as you just open mouth dey talk without cross checking your facts.

Simple googling it, would have told you this

"detty december is pidgin for dirty December."

Wikipedia
Detty December (Nigeria)
The term Detty is a corruption of "dirty"

See as guilty conscience dey work you.

You are the one who does detty detty things that is why you are here complaining even black friday that I didn't talk about you add am join but you sef know, that's why your conscience dey judge you bad bad.

Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information

Same wiki told us 'ikeja' is an acronym which is wrong

As expected, when you go online, you will only go for unreliable sources that suit your narrative

Dvea:
If you did your research well and didn't rely on your own knowledge you'd have found out that the name itself santa Clause is Latin for saint Nicolas. And if you researched enough you'd know that he was a real Bishop who gave secrete gifts usually the day before Christmas to poor people in his community. If you researched enough you'd know that celebrating saint Nicolas has been there for ages and it was the Dutch who introduced the tradition to the US who went on to commercialise it. If you researched well you'd have found out that is not in fact a modern day tradition but one that has existed since the 1000s. But of course you didn't research.

If you don't jump into conclusions you'd realize i mentioned what you just wasted your time explaining. Modern day santa has nothing to do with saint Nicholas. Modern day santa lives in the north pole, rides flying reindeers and has elfs has supporting staff. What has that got to do with the bible or christainity.


Enjoy your pagan holidays and belief.

SixSeven:
There was never a better representation of apples and oranges like this post.

Lol...smh

Negroid001:
If you don't jump into conclusions you'd realize i mentioned what you just wasted your time explaining. Modern day santa has nothing to do with saint Nicholas. Modern day santa lives in the north pole, rides flying reindeers and has elfs has supporting staff. What has that got to do with the bible or christainity.


Enjoy your pagan holidays and belief.

Again if you did your research you'd know that all those additional information were commercialised when santa Clause was introduced to the US. The Dutch brought the tradition of saint Nicolas to the Americans and over time they commercialised it. Made screenplays about him, used him in ads and added modern day identity to make it more appealing to people. And because it didnt tamper with the original truth of Saint Nicolas Christian communities and leaders didn't oppose it. It's not pagan because its a modern retelling of a real life figure that gave gifts to children and families the eve of Christmas.

People like you refuse to see that there is culture and community in Christianity. These modern retelling of saint nick was very instrumental in the late 1800s and early 1900s in spreading Christianity. How can it be pagan when it reminds you of Christianity?

Besides santa Claus as a tradition did not start today or yesterday. Saint Nicolas lived in 400AD and the tradition of children asking him for gifts during Christmas existed right after his death. It's an ancient tradition that has existed along side Christmas since the days of the ealry church. It became super popular in Europe in the 1500s and 1600s and popular in the American in 1800s and 1900s but it has always been there. Like wise Christmas, the first report of ealry Christians celebrating Christmas was in 200AD long before Christianity even became political and was Influencing countries.

The ealry church and it's communities have been celebrating these events for centuries as an approved activity. Why because Christianity includes both biblical truths and Christian traditions and that's something modern pastors refuse to teach that the church for 2000 years had to create traditions and customs that defined them because the Bible didnt give them that. Instead they created traditions and customs in line with the realities, truths and wisdoms of the ealry church. And as long as it didnt contradict the Bible it was approved. One such tradition was celebrating the birthday of Jesus and then venerating saint Nicolas as a pioneer in promoting the christian Christmas spirit of selfless giving and community love.

I explained in detail how the ealry church choose 25th of December as christ birth in my earlier reply on this post all of which was decided upon within the first 100 to 200 years after Christ's death. You may want to read that and be informed.

femi4:
Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information

Same wiki told us 'ikeja' is an acronym which is wrong

As expected, when you go online, you will only go for unreliable sources that suit your narrative

See it, I said if you go online you would see that Google and co have told you that detty is dirty yet you saw it fit to pick on just one of the sources I posted after seeing that I am right

So now you thought attacking Wikipedia will save you? Sorry it won't!

The fact that Wikipedia got Ikeja wrong doesn't mean it got Detty as Dirty wrong even if you wish it with all your might.

For its definition aligns with all the other sources which I did not post, so let me post the others for you since you want to pretend you did not see them.

What Is the Meaning of Detty December? | The Guardian Nigeria ...
"Detty December" means a wild, non-stop, gloriously excessive holiday season in Nigeria and Ghana, derived from Nigerian Pidgin for "dirty,"

Facebook · BBC News Africa
620+ reactions · 3 days ago
"Detty", is West African Pidgin for "dirty", and is widely used in ...
"Detty", is West African Pidgin for "dirty",


The vanguard newspaper
Detty December and road congestion
5 days ago — The term “Detty,” derived from Nigerian Pidgin for “dirty,” captures the wild...

So now come and say all these other sources are unreliable

Then see how you quoted Genesis (beginning) of detty december and ran away from the issue here which is whether detty is dirty and not about how it began and yet you accused me of only going for sources that suit my narrative when you are the one guilty of doing such things as your quote up there has betrayed and cast you open.

You should be thoroughly and head to toe ashamed of yourself.

jesusjnr2020:
Another post I saw on social media about the Christmas tree made so much sense.

It was so comprehensive and detailed, it touched on just about every aspect of the tree, from the top to the bottom and also the shape.

See it for yourself below

A Brief History of Santa Claus – The Wildcat
Santa Claus is a legendary figure, the patron saint of children, known for bringing gifts on Christmas Eve, evolving from the historical Saint Nicholas, a generous 4th-century bishop in Turkey, blended with Germanic folklore and English figures like Father Christmas, shaped into the jolly, red-suited man with a white beard who lives at the North Pole, makes toys with elves, and travels in a reindeer-pulled sleigh.
Historical Origins (Saint Nicholas)
Real Person: The legend stems from Nicholas of Myra (modern-day Turkey), a wealthy Christian bishop known for his secret gift-giving and kindness to the poor.
Name Origin: His name comes from the Dutch "Sinterklaas," a shortened form of "Sint Nikolaas" (Saint Nicholas).
Evolution into Modern Santa
Dutch Influence: Dutch settlers brought the Sinterklaas tradition to New Amsterdam (New York), where gift-giving on St. Nicholas' Day (December 6th) became popular.
Americanization: In the 19th century, writers like Clement Clarke Moore ("A Visit from St. Nicholas" and Thomas Nast (cartoonist) solidified the image of a jolly, portly man in a fur-trimmed suit with a sleigh and reindeer.
Father Christmas: The English figure of Father Christmas, symbolizing festive merriment, merged with Santa, creating the cheerful icon seen today.
The Modern Legend
The Man: A portly, jolly man with a white beard, rosy cheeks, and glasses, wearing a red suit.
His Home: The North Pole, where he lives with his wife, Mrs. Claus, and his workshop elves.
His Ride: A sleigh pulled by flying reindeer (including Rudolph).
His Mission: To deliver toys and gifts to good children worldwide on Christmas Eve, often coming down chimneys.
God bless.

vdestro:
See it, I said if you go online you would see that Google and co have told you that detty is dirty yet you saw it fit to pick on just one of the sources I posted after seeing that I am right

So now you thought attacking Wikipedia will save you? Sorry it won't!

The fact that Wikipedia got Ikeja wrong doesn't mean it got Detty as Dirty wrong even if you wish it with all your might.

For its definition aligns with all the other sources which I did not post, so let me post the others for you since you want to pretend you did not see them.

What Is the Meaning of Detty December? | The Guardian Nigeria ...
"Detty December" means a wild, non-stop, gloriously excessive holiday season in Nigeria and Ghana, derived from Nigerian Pidgin for "dirty,"

Facebook · BBC News Africa
620+ reactions · 3 days ago
"Detty", is West African Pidgin for "dirty", and is widely used in ...
"Detty", is West African Pidgin for "dirty",


The vanguard newspaper
Detty December and road congestion
5 days ago — The term “Detty,” derived from Nigerian Pidgin for “dirty,” captures the wild...

So now come and say all these other sources are unreliable

Then see how you quoted Genesis (beginning) of detty december and ran away from the issue here which is whether detty is dirty and not about how it began and yet you accused me of only going for sources that suit my narrative when you are the one guilty of doing such things as your quote up there has betrayed and cast you open.

You should be thoroughly and head to toe ashamed of yourself.

This is how people fail exam

Most Nigerian papers pick celebrities profile from wiki which has proven unreliable overtime

I have given you the right info but you prefer to run with the wrong one. How is that my fault

femi4:
This is how people fail exam

Most Nigerian papers pick celebrities profile from wiki which has proven unreliable overtime

I have given you the right info but you prefer to run with the wrong one. How is that my fault

See as person brain freeze

still fighting yourself over wiki and talking about celebrities profile and running away from all the other sources I posted, in proof you have woefully failed and have nothing to say

You are the one who has publicly failed this simple exam as is already proven even here

And you are also the one who inspite of all the right info I have given you has chosen to run with the wrong one as also further proven here also

It is clearly obvious that you do false accusations and self project your wrong doings onto others as you did by first accusing me of using sources that suit my narrative to which I countered and showed that it is you who did so.

Now you have moved to failing exams and refusing to take the right info when clearly it is you who has done and does all these things.

Like I said before, you should be very very very foreverly in shame.