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doffman:
Any day you want to leave Libya , inform me , I will be of help . I still like you shaa as a human ; I only hate you being a pagan ahaaa😀


You are my first customer in this forum that receive daily drugs from me ahaaa

doffman:
Why did you change mouth ?😀😀

😀😀😀 he has now set into repetition mode like her sister here 😀😀.

The answer shock am well .

doffman:
😀😀😀😀 then why are you Christian since Jesus is not a Christian?😀😀


Does Jesus teach Christianity?

Yes or no ?

You are my customer nah and student .

Expanse2020:
J

doffman:
Why lying nah🙈


😀😀😀😀😀😀🤣😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 certified pagan now changing mouth after I have reset his cerebellum .


You once confess here that Jesus never preached any religion


Is Christianity not religion ?

Yes or no ?

Since you already agreed that Jesus never preached any religion you do not have locus standi to preach Pauline religion called Christianity for us nah .



This is second time I asked you this question and you are running away .

doffman:
Even Satan loves you guys .

Maybe you should find your partner in dating app like them lobatan

doffman:
Even your pastor ? 😀😀

doffman:
Certified pagan 😀😀😀😀😀😀

I just like the way I am giving it to you very hard .


The more I give it to you , the more you expose yourself and display your empty knowledge .


You now shifted the post and say this :

Abraham went to meet his God and worshipped him by bowing to the ground before GOD ALMIGHTY Awho appeared as a Man (Theopahy)
Abraham called one of the men ADONAI- one of the divine name of God.


After I exposed your lie that Abraham did not worship any man you now say that man appeared as a God . Chai


You guys are worst than Satan himself .


Anyway , I will cast you again .

Open your bible and go to : Numbers 23:19: "God is not a man, that He should lie; nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?" (NKJV).


How can God be a man nah . Reason nah ; who do this to you guys ahaaa

So you never know God's nature is divinely and unique, unlike humans who are prone to falsehood and changing their minds.

You don’t know anything and your bible knowledge is very limited .



I have casted you again ! 🤣


Which lies again you want to say to justify your paganism bayii 🤷🏼‍♂️.


When I called you a pagan , I did not lie nah 😀

SIRTee15:
Use your brain my friend. I believe I'm talking to a educated person with functioning brain not an illiterate dimwit.

Christ means Messiah in Greek. Jesus is the messiah.

U can as well ask why we call him Jesus since Jesus never called himself that name.

I heard says Jesus never heard what you call him or answer that thing you called him... Yes or no
Just like everything was form from Greek, to Rome, Catholic ... Where everything in Christianity was form🤣🤣🤣

Arindin

Everything to them is Paul. Here is Peter apostle of Christ himself using the word Christian

1 Peter 4:16
“Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name.
which one of Peter is this ...is the direct disciples or those that didn't had connection with Jesus but wrote 80 % of new testament since they fill the old is obsolete 🤣🤣

Lobatan. Even Peter called believers Christians.
Christian mean followers of Christ.
Christ mean Messiah
Is Jesus the messiah? Yes

AntiisIam:
Sule, tani allah and his angels sent this prayers to?

Quran 33:56 Samy Mahdy
Surely Allah and His angels are praying[b] (bless)[/b] thank God you didn't remove the word from the page... You can see blessing here and you bragging with zero upstairs...chaiii

upon the Prophet. O those who believed! Pray (bless) upon him and salute him, a salutation.



Quran 33:56 Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri
Allah sends His Salah on the Prophet, and also His angels (do so). O you who believe! Send your Salah on him, and greet him with Taslim.



Quran 33:56 The Wise Quran Project
Indeed, God and His angels pray for the prophet.
Chaii English na wahala . You don't know different between you pray for and you pray to
O those who believed! Pray for him and salute, a salutation.


Imagine, allah dey pray

AntiisIam:
Sule, shey simple English koye e nii? Abi opolo e ti finally lo?

Jesus Christ is not a Christian, but one of your brother in other room said otherwise that Jesus is a Christian because he established Christianity

we are his followers, Jesus Christ can't follow himself because Christianity was named after him

Omi eran, don't ask me this kind of question again sogbo

AntiisIam:
Na good question you asked again, this is what allah said you be doing

Jesus Christ, through the Holy Spirit, preached to people in the Old Testament era, who are described as "spirits in prison" awaiting judgment, signifying Christ's proclamation of victory over sin and death even before His incarnation. This isn't a "second chance" after death but a pre-incarnate act, showing the Spirit of Christ's work through prophets like Noah, etc to those who rejected the message, reinforcing judgment, not offering new hope.


1 Peter 3:19-21
19. In it he went and preached to the spirits in prison,

20 after they were disobedient long ago when God patiently waited in the days of Noah as an ark was being constructed. In the ark a few, that is eight souls, were delivered through water.

21 And this prefigured baptism, which now saves you not the washing off of physical dirt but the pledge[h] of a good conscience to God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,



1 Peter 4:6
For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.

Expanse2020:
Chaii English na wahala . You don't know different between you pray for and you pray to
O those who believed! Pray for him and salute, a salutation.

Antiislaam:
Sule, Quran 33:56 so wipe allah ati awon malaka e GBADURA fun anobi e muomo

Tani allah send adura ti o gba fun anobi e si is the question?

Expanse2020:
So Jesus actually preach to spirit in prison or dead Wao Wao Wao
Mule of the year

Expanse2020:
The answers already in the verses you posted that I highlighted for you .... But nobody can help with the disease you are battling with jare

SIRTee15:
I will respond to your other post but this one really gets to me.
So u telling me u admit that

1. another person apart from God can have the name of God in him- another person can actually bear the name of God.
2. Have the authority of God in him.
3. can be called God in some ways and even called God in authority.
4. u acknowledge that another person can be a physical representation of the invisible Father
5. God can interact directly with humanity through a physical being.
6 another person apart from God can forgive sin

MY BROTHER, IS THIS NOT JESUS CHRIST OR AM I CONFUSED SOMEWHERE.

A MUSLIM IS SEEING JESUS CHRIST IN THE OLD TESTAMENT OR IS IT NOT WHAT I'M READING.

Jesus said ' Before Abraham was, I AM'- called himself the name of God.
Jesus said 'Your sins are forgiven' - forgives sin
Jesus said 'If you have seen me, you have seen the Father"
Jesus said ' All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me"
Jesus said' “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
Jesus said 'Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

SO HOW COME U ACCEPT THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAN HAVE ALL THESE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD BUT REJECT SAME FOR JESUS.
WHY DO U ACCEPT THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT BUT REJECT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?

I think we have a lot more in common in Jesus than u think. I always tell Muslims, scrutinize the Quran critically, also scrutinize the old and new testament. Those 3 books will lead u to Jesus Christ called the saviour.

PERSONALLY IF U CAN ACCEPT THE ANGEL OF THE LORD HAS THESE ATTRIBUTES, THEN U HAVE NO OBJECTIVE REASON TO REJECT SIMILAR ATTRIBUTES FOR CHRIST.

The issue of divinity is simply how its defined separately in the 2 religions.
u guys believe Allah is separate from his divinity and his attributes. So another person that has Allah's attributes doesn't mean he's Allah or has Allah's divinity.
That's why tawhid in Islam is problematic in theological sense because it shows Allah has parts. Allah's attributes are part of Allah and NOT ALLAH. ALLAH'S DIVINITY IS PART OF HIM AND NOT HIM.

we dont belive that in christianity. we accept something called the principle of divine simplicity- God is simple. He's doesn't have parts.

God's attributes cannot be separated from his divinity, equally his divinity cannot be separated from him; and God doesn't have divinity, instead God is divine.
God is inseparable from his from his divinity or attributes. God doesn't have existence, God is existence. God doesn't have omnipresent or omnispotent attributes, God is omnipresent and omnipotent. God doesn't have a name, He is his name.
GOD IS INDIVISIBLE IN ANY FORM OR WAY- HE IS ONE. HE CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM HIS DIVINITY OR ATTRIBUTES.
SO WHEN HIS NAME OR POWER TO FORGIVE OR AUTHORITY OR GLORY PROCEEDS FROM HIM, IT'S HIS FULL DIVINITY THAT PROCEEDS. YOU CANNOT DIVIDE OR COMPARMENTALIZE ALMIGHTY GOD'S DIVINITY

That's why The Angel of the LORD is presented as a divine agent in the Targum. He's not just an ordinary angel.

doffman:
The certified pagan , why do you like to deviate nah .

Face the topic nah .

You claimed Abraham worship someone and j refuted you with proof .

You claimed Muslim blew to stone and worship kaabah , I refuted you with proofs .


If you disagree , the notion is on you to bring in your evidence nah if you fit .


All these you deviation will never help you and I will not allow you to escape .

I went to missionary school ; so you can never lie to me using your bible ; never ; I repeat .


Bursting pagan lies is my hubby ; Alhamdulillah 🥷

doffman:
Certified pagan has now reduced to debris . Just see how you are displaying t your half knowledge . I just tutored you now and you now reject Quran verses ahaaaa.


Oya from your bible :

Daniel 6:10, which states that Daniel prayed with his windows open toward Jerusalem.


1 Kings 8:29-30
New International Version
29 May your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, this place of which you said, ‘My Name shall be there,’ so that you will hear the prayer your servant prays toward this place. 30 Hear the supplication of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place, and when you hear, forgive.


These people facing sacred Jerusalem for prayers ; is it bad act of worship ?


Yes or no ?


These are your bible verses o or you don’t also believe in bible 😀😀😀.


I repeat , Muslim does not bow to stone or worship any idol ; I have given you evidence .

If you disagree , then the notion is on you to give us proof where God say Muslim should bow to stone and worship it ; very simple

If you don’t have such proof , no hassle , you can join the league of your fellow pagan who photoshopped 🕋 with lies nah . No problem at all .

doffman:
The certified pagan now knocked out ahaa: so you don’t know anything ahaaa.

I will not allow you to escape with any excuse . You must answer my question and you must be exposed .

You asked me this :

If Allah has a son, will u Doffman worship him.

My ans: Allah never has son and he did not ask us to worship any son ; he only asked us to worship him alone and we should never associate partner with him . So therefore , I will never and ever worship any son apart from God .


This are my evidences :


1. Quran 25:2

Allah is˺ the One to Whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, Who has never had ˹any˺ offspring, nor does He have a partner in ˹governing˺ the kingdom. He has created everything, ordaining it precisely.


2. Quran 112

Say, 'He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent

3. Quran 19: 88-93

And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son."

You have done an atrocious thing.

The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation


That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.

And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.

There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant.

4 . Surah At-Tawbah (9:31): "They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him".

Infact Jesus himself has answer for you :

Surah Maryam (19:33-35): Jesus says, "Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!” ... “Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him [alone]. This is the Straight Path.” ... “It is not for Allah to take a son! Glory be to Him. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is!”.


Now , this is final nail on you :

Surah Az-Zumar (39:3): "Indeed, sincere devotion is due ˹only˺ to Allah. As for those who take other lords besides Him, ˹saying,˺ “We worship them only so they may bring us closer to Allah,” surely Allah will judge between all regarding what they differed about.".

As you can see, ALLAH DID NOT HAVE SON OR PATNER AMD HE DID NOT ASK US TO WORSHIP ANY SON OR IDOL . Lobatan .



Evidence from bible :


1. Matthew 4:10 (NIV): "Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"


2. Luke 4:8 (NIV): "Jesus answered, 'It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.'"


3. Deuteronomy 6:13 (NIV): "Fear the Lord your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name."


4. Exodus 20:3 (NIV): "You shall have no other gods before me."

Even your own bible finished you off lobatan 😀


Have answer your question.


Now , My question :


Where does God ask you or commanded you to worship Jesus instead of him

remember , Jesus as already told you that Only God is worth of worship ! And you already told me you worship Jesus .

Oya , proof Jesus or God wrong 🤣. Give me evidence from Quran and your bible .


N.b : learn from me and give proof and outline your points if you fit .

🗡️🥷🪑 ☕️ waiting for your answer .

Thank you in advance .

doffman:
I repeat , Muslim does not bow to stone or worship any idol ; I have given you evidence .
.

SIRTeee15:
WOW HALLELUJAH SOMEBODY !!!! GOD IS GREAT AND CHRIST IS KING.

Doffman, in case u don't know, I have been asking this question for years and Muslims are always afraid to answer the question.

If ALLAH HAS A SON, SHOULD THE SON BE WORSHIPPED.

THEY NEVER ANSWER IT. MUSLIMS WILL SAY ANYTHING BUT ANSWER THE QUESTION. A QUESTION THAT QURAN GAVE A CLEAR ANSWER.

RATHER THAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, muslims will start giving answers to question I never asked them. They will self generate new questions not asked and start perambulating around the REAL QUESTION which is IF ALLAH HAS A SON, SHOULD THAT SON BE WORSIPPED.

IT SHOWS MUSLIMS ARE EMBARRASED BY THEIR OWN QURAN.

DOFFMAN IF THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IS IN YOUR QURAN AND U REFUSE TO ANSWER IT, THEN U ARE EMBARRASED BY WHAT'S WRITTEN IN YOUR OWN QURAN. U ARE ASHAMED OF THE TRUTH IN YOUR OWN QURAN.

DOFFMAN IF ALLAH HAS A SON, WILL U DOFFMAN WORSHIP THE SON OF ALLAH?

I'm not asking u whether Allah has a son or not BUT if Allah has a son, should the son of Allah be worshipped.
its not a hypothetical question, the answer is in your Quran.

answer the question, even if the answer is embarrassing, answer it. it's a big shame for a Muslim to be ashamed of his Quran.
Even if u don't like the answer, be bold and answer it.

antiislam may mock u for saying the truth BUT ALLAH will be proud of u for saying and declaring the truth for all to see.

Now don't let me down, I have motivated you enough to answer the question ASKED this time.

If Allah has a son, will u doffman worship the son of Allah?

answer the question. don't think of Antiislam when answering, just think of the truth that must be revealed and answer.

Expanse2020:
Matthew 19:29 you shall want me to burst speaker....

And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. Can you now see the meaning of the hadiths now...

If you follow Christ as we as others prophet we Muslims follow you shall have 100times in after life ....
And if you have 100 times of what you have, you must have strength of the equal to handle your affairs...

Did you now clear to you now...
Whatever you don't understand you asked we made it clear to you ... the hadiths explained how you handle your affairs of what our lord will give each other person according to his deeds....
The list of Muslim that we have minimal of paradise will have times 10X of this world so he must posses the same abilities to tour and handle his possession...