₦airaland Forum

madridguy:
Alkali just want to rant for his followers to hail him If bank deduct your money, carry cutlass go fight them.

You know these people, so many hadly use bank accounts, secondly their way of reason is so bad that they can start attacking branches of banks in their region, even the lives of staffs and management may be at risk.

aribisala0:
The FAAC. allocations is a partial story
Receiving more is a ratio of what you contribute to what you receive

So you cannot sit down in Gombe contribute zero and tell us rubbish


If I contribute 20 and get 2
You contribute nothing and get 2 you are getting more


Also you need to include Local Government allocations and loan deduction for loans guaranteed by the Federal Government

You are now twisting your narrative. This is what you wrote, and I quote;

The north gets more than the south when federal funds are shared

After showing this to be false, you now twisted to contributions.

This type of revenue sharing is not peculiar to Nigeria, all countries of the world share revenue not solely based on contributions. In the US, states like California, New York, Florida and Texas contribute the bulk of Federal revenue, but states like Alaska, Wyoming, and Vermont contribute very little, but they still receive substantial allocations. In fact states like New Mexico and West Virginia are most dependent on federal money relative to their own revenue.

I am not making excuses for northern states, we have to improve our revenue profile as a country. I don't see much difference between the northern states and southern states in terms of revenue generation. The only exceptions are Lagos due to VAT, and the Niger Delta states due to petroleum resources. Even the East apart from Imo state contribute little revenue to the federation account, and receive more than they contribute to the federation account.

aribisala0:
This is an opinion and explanation. No facts no figures
You just explain explain explain

No evidence


WHAT DO3S THE NORTH CONTRIBUTE..?



That theory of priritzing recurrent over capital is ignorant rubbish
Just repeating what you heard
Salaries of teachers , police, doctors, nurses, soldiers, buying petrol for police vehicles paying electricity bills are recurrent expenditure

Stop parroing this mantra about recurrent without knowledge

Different states have different needs but health education security and the services you talk about are reliant 9n recurrent expenditure

Recurrent expenditure us not a sin
Capital expenditure us nota virtue

At any rate the claim is false almost every state now announces a budget with more capital than recurrent including this last one by Tinubu


I do not agree that is a virtue ir necessarily a good thing


Employing doctors teachers nurses police men is necessary and good

Maintaining existing infrastructure is too

No one is saying recurrent expenditure is a bad thing, my argument is that the recurrent expenditure does not benefit the majority of the population, only a miniscule segment of the population - politicians, civil servants, and cronies, friends and families of those in government. The bulk of the police protect this class and not you and I. Report a threat or an attack on your home to the nearest police station and see if the police would come and rescue you. Go to the police state to report a case and see if you will not be asked to fund the investigation, or no action will be taken. Is this how police services work? Are we being policed? Same operates across all government services, education, health, water, power,etc. Its even worse in the North, people are dying because of N2000 Malaria drugs. People are drinking water you cannot have your bath in. As I reiterate, governance has broken down in Nigeria.

wirinet:
No one is saying recurrent expenditure is a bad thing, my argument is that the recurrent expenditure does not benefit the majority of the population, only a miniscule segment of the population - politicians, civil servants, and cronies, friends and families of those in government. The bulk of the police protect this class and not you and I. Report a threat or an attack on your home to the nearest police station and see if the police would come and rescue you. Go to the police state to report a case and see if you will not be asked to fund the investigation, or no action will be taken. Is this how police services work? Are we being policed? Same operates across all government services, education, health, water, power,etc. Its even worse in the North, people are dying because of N2000 Malaria drugs. People are drinking water you cannot have your bath in. As I reiterate, governance has broken down in Nigeria.

That is equally true of capital expenditure
The argument about recurrent capital is a non argument
All those complaints are nothing to do with proportionality of recurrent to capital
There is no God given formula of ideal proportionality

Most of those things that make a country a country are on recurrent expenditure
We are a poor country with huge population so services are thin the logical solution would be. MORE recurrent expenditure not less

lawani:
You have nothing against Biafrans invading the Midwest and west when no aggression was coming against Biafra from there. I have nothing against those regions pushing back against Biafran invasion and subsequently entering Biafra to end the secession. If you choose to invade other people's land why are you surprised they drove you back? Wonders shall never end. Nigeria was never one nation and everybody consider their land sacred. You are the one capping rubbish. It is indeed very very naive to think the Biafrans would control Yoruba land with 3k soldiers. Back then Ibadan was many times bigger than Lagos and there were still other cities

You are happy your Nigeria soldiers which included Yorubas invaded Eastern region for no reason.

wirinet:
You are now twisting your narrative. This is what you wrote, and I quote;


After showing this to be false, you now twisted to contributions.

This type of revenue sharing is not peculiar to Nigeria, all countries of the world share revenue not solely based on contributions. In the US, states like California, New York, Florida and Texas contribute the bulk of Federal revenue, but states like Alaska, Wyoming, and Vermont contribute very little, but they still receive substantial allocations. In fact states like New Mexico and West Virginia are most dependent on federal money relative to their own revenue.

I am not making excuses for northern states, we have to improve our revenue profile as a country. I don't see much difference between the northern states and southern states in terms of revenue generation. The only exceptions are Lagos due to VAT, and the Niger Delta states due to petroleum resources. Even the East apart from Imo state contribute little revenue to the federation account, and receive more than they contribute to the federation account.

I am not twisting it

It is clear but s8nce you lack understanding I clarified it for you

Your claim about America is false

There is no automatic distribution of funds from the centre that is a lie
Anything that goes to Wyoming from the centre is a line in the FEDERAL BUDGET
REPEAT FEDERAL BUDGET

now I stand by what I said
If I contribute 100 and get 20

Then I have got MINUS 80

If you contribute nothing and get 20 you have got plus 20

You cannot ignore where the money comes from

If we buy shares in a company when it is time to pay dividend it is based on shareholding

It is only a parasite that would make the kind of argument you seem to be making
That has a sense of entitlement for nothing

I don't see how that is difficult to understand

4 brothers inherit their fathers house

It needs renovation. 1 person pays for everything.
Half the value of the new house

Then it is time to share and everyone gets one flat
Some are GETTING MORE if they don't pay for the renovation
It is the same whether in a cooperative or even a group dinner

We say everyone should cook their native food so we can have a buffet
2 peopl cook a bag of rice and turkey
You and 5 others cook indomie and egg another 10 bring nothing
Everyone eats 2 plates of food

You want to tell us those who brought nothing did not get more?

I no gree

madridguy:
Alkali just want to rant for his followers to hail him If bank deduct your money, carry cutlass go fight them.

Lol...lol... Lol... I dey tell you

Salewa97:
The new tax law is for all Nigerians not only for the Northerners.

Why are they always acting like they are above the law?

Their eye don clear. Tinubu no be their mate.

mascot87:
I am in 100% support of North going there way. We aren't wired to be together as one.

You want a failed state? You are supporting people with an orientation that is NOT supporting develpment. All the years the Northern leaders have been at the helm of affairs what have they made of it?

Ngozi123:
It has now been revealed that the Premier of the Western Region who died alongside Ironsi was deliberately assassinated due to his alleged involvement in that coup. It is said that he personally trained many of the main players in that coup. The coup plotists had intended to put Awolowo in power. He may not have had any direct involvement but may have been involved indirectly.

Igbo people have been carrying this blame for decades and have suffered because of it. It's an injustice of the highest order.

Please don't take Yoruba people serious.
That Fajuiyi lies have since been debunked.
They needed the lie to be able to form alliance with the North.
Because how else can they justify forming alliance with the North who killed a Western region military governor in Yorubaland?
They had to paint him as a Martyr who died because of an "Ibo man".
It's always the fault of Ibo man.😃

https://www.nairaland.com/8350184/curious-case-fajuiyithe-falsehood-role/1

Zuckembego:
You see, this exactly what I am saying. I believe you read what the person I quoted wrote up there blaming Awolowo for why Nigeria has not separated. Which is why I replied to his post. You did not blame him or has anything to say about it but boom, you started quoting me. Is it because he's your brother or he says what you want to hear? If you want me to blame leaders of today, why is your brother lying against leader of yesterday and you couldn't tell him to only blame leaders of today?

I hardly reply to posts but I don't ignore the ones that blame people and cover their own atrocities.

Peace!

Awolowo was partially to blame for why Nigeria didn't split up in 1967. He had the chance to secede and he didn't. For what it's worth, I do blame Zik as well but not because he didn't support a secession clause in the constitution. Some Yorubas keep using it as an excuse for their leaders subsequent actions and that's stupid. Did the lack of a secession clause prevent Awolowo from threatening to secede on the eve of the Biafran war? No, it didn't so stop bringing it up as it has little bearing here.

As for your other point, I didn't even read what the other poster said. I read your post and replied to it. Do you have a problem?

pazienza:
Please don't take Yoruba people serious.
That Fajuiyi lies have since been debunked.
They needed the lie to be able to form alliance with the North.
Because how else can they justify forming alliance with the North who killed a Western region military governor in Yorubaland?
They had to paint him as a Martyr who died because of an "Ibo man".
It's always the fault of Ibo man.😃

https://www.nairaland.com/8350184/curious-case-fajuiyithe-falsehood-role/1

The guy actually claimed that they killed Fajuyi because he was armed and he refused to leave his friend. They tried to frame it in a similar manner to how the Sardauna's wife was killed, only she was shot dead on the spot. If Fajuyi wasn't an intended target, why then was he disarmed and led into a secluded area before being shot. That's a textbook assassination.

Average northerners dnt pay for most of these charges southerner and Easterners pay reason because there transaction is mostly physical cash, also you hardly see them work to receive salaries,except the educated ones..tho,this tax will prove a bit difficult to evade but they will actually being less affect compared to southerners and Easterner

Tranquillity360:
You are happy your Nigeria soldiers which included Yorubas invaded Eastern region for no reason.

There were Yorubas in both the Biafran and the Nigerian army but both the Midwest and the Midwest did not allow aggression against Biafra from their land. Awo got all Northern troops to leave the west and there were no troops at all in the Midwest. The west and Midwest had to join the federal forces with their land when Biafra invaded them. They were initially working for Biafra

tymicjay77:
Average northerners dnt pay for most of these charges southerner and Easterners pay reason because there transaction is mostly physical cash, also you hardly see them work to receive salaries,except the educated ones..tho,this tax will prove a bit difficult to evade but they will actually being less affect compared to southerners and Easterner

Most big businesses across the country use banks. I think many businesses will be captured both in the North and the south. BVN is low compared with NIN Around sixty million to around 120 million showing that many people especially in the North don't operate bank accounts but most people with bank accounts in the south too won't be paying anything.

lawani:
There were Yorubas in both the Biafran and the Nigerian army but both the Midwest and the Midwest did not allow aggression against Biafra from their land. Awo got all Northern troops to leave the west and there were no troops at all in the Midwest. The west and Midwest had to join the federal forces with their land when Biafra invaded them. They were initially working for Biafra

Stop believing lies told you by your parents,go read real history.


Again having one Yoruba man who believe the right for Biafra to go their separate country doesn't mean there were Yorubas Both in Biafra and Nigeria Army.


Yoruba soldiers were fully part of Nigeria army that invaded Eastern region first.

Biafra army didn't start the fight but Yorubas and Hausafulanis Army.


This was how they lied to you that one of your own killed by northern soldiers during the counter coup sacrificed himself by asking northern soldiers to kill him for Igbo Man.

To be honest, this is not how Tax works in Civilised countries and IF Tinubu was really a qualified accountant as he "claimed", then he should know this.

Tax is not just deducted by raiding any money that comes into peoples bank account - only an illiterate Agbero President cum Treasury looter would think this was the right way to collect tax.

What happens to gifts from family members and gambling winnings which are tax free What happens to school fees paid into a students account by his parents

Normally, the Inland Revenue would send an assessment form to registered taxpayers who will fill it in stating all their income, expenses, tax deductable allowances they made for the just ended tax year and send it to the Inland Revenue who will then send the Tax payer a tax calculation and assessment for the tax year which will have deducted any statutory allowances like Married Couples Allowance, Personal Allowances etc that are free from tax leaving just the taxable amount to which various tax rates are then applied in segments and then a demand for tax is sent to the tax payer with a generous deadline for payment failing which interest will be applied at a specified rate until fully paid.

But juxtapose this sane tax collection system with Tinubu's plan to fill his bullion vans with money hurriedly grabbed from long suffering Nigerians in yet another attempt by the greedy pig to amass more loot to corrupt the Nigerian electoral system and perpetuate himself and his cronies into power FOREVER.

For starters he has already managed to "convince" almost EVERY Nigerian politician to defect to the APC.

Again I say, God Please help the long-suffering Nigerian masses.

Tranquillity360:
Stop believing lies told you by your parents,go read real history.


Again having one Yoruba man who believe the right for Biafra to go their separate country doesn't mean there were Yorubas Both in Biafra and Nigeria Army.


Yoruba soldiers were fully part of Nigeria army that invaded Eastern region first.

Biafra army didn't start the fight but Yorubas and Hausafulanis Army.


This was how they lied to you that one of your own killed by northern soldiers during the counter coup sacrificed himself by asking northern soldiers to kill him for Igbo Man.

Get your history right. Biafrans started the fight in the west. They were being attacked from the North but they chose to invade the west. Therefore you can't blame those who defended their land as any military analyst would have expected. Yes there were Yorubas in both the Nigerian and Biafran army but there was no Nigerian division assaulting Biafra from the west or Midwest only from the North. Awo can not stop Yorubas in the army from attacking from the North neither could he stop the Yoruba soldiers in Biafra. I hear even that there were Northern soldiers fighting for Biafra. Awo did what he could which was get Northern soldiers out of the west and make sure no attack against Biafra originated from the west prior to the Biafran invasion. If the Biafrans now believed the west would exchange gladly Northern occupation with Eastern occupation without a fight then that is their own miscalculation and who do you blame for that?
Our own version of history in Yoruba land corroborated by eminent people like Colonel Ejoor former governor of Midwest and former chief of army staff is that Colonel Fajuyi was killed because he obstructed the assassination of his boss General Ironsi. The Northerners planned to implicate the west in the coup or rather make them share in the blame hence the choice of Ibadan instead of Lagos and they did not plan to kill Colonel Fajuyi. Even some Yorubas that were part of the coup lived to their old age not to talk of someone who had no link at all with the coup plot. However you are free to believe your own or any version of history. To me Colonel Fajuyi was a gentleman soldier who understood honor. Then why even accuse a dead man of something as heinous as coup plotting when you have no proof and nobody has any proof?. He was just unfortunate to be the governor of the west when they came for Ironsi. Be mindful how you throw mindless accusations about for nothing. The man still has family

The Biafrans may have been right to invade the west and Midwest in your understanding but the people that resisted them were right too. So stop blaming them

lawani:
Get your history right. Biafrans started the fight in the west. They were being attacked from the North but they chose to invade the west. Therefore you can't blame those who defended their land as any military analyst would have expected. Yes there were Yorubas in both the Nigerian and Biafran army but there was no Nigerian division assaulting Biafra from the west or Midwest only from the North. Awo can not stop Yorubas in the army from attacking from the North neither could he stop the Yoruba soldiers in Biafra. I hear even that there were Northern soldiers fighting for Biafra. Awo did what he could which was get Northern soldiers out of the west and make sure no attack against Biafra originated from the west prior to the Biafran invasion. If the Biafrans now believed the west would exchange gladly Northern occupation with Eastern occupation without a fight then that is their own miscalculation and who do you blame for that?
Our own version of history in Yoruba land corroborated by eminent people like Colonel Ejoor former governor of Midwest and former chief of army staff is that Colonel Fajuyi was killed because he obstructed the assassination of his boss General Ironsi. The Northerners planned to implicate the west in the coup or rather make them share in the blame hence the choice of Ibadan instead of Lagos and they did not plan to kill Colonel Fajuyi. Even some Yorubas that were part of the coup lived to their old age not to talk of someone who had no link at all with the coup plot. However you are free to believe your own or any version of history. To me Colonel Fajuyi was a gentleman soldier who understood honor. Then why even accuse a dead man of something as heinous as coup plotting when you have no proof and nobody has any proof?. He was just unfortunate to be the governor of the west when they came for Ironsi. Be mindful how you throw mindless accusations about for nothing. The man still has family

The Biafrans may have been right to invade the west and Midwest in your understanding but the people that resisted them were right too. So stop blaming them

I stopped reading the trash after the second line.


You can continue deceiving yourself with lies told you by your parents.

Tranquillity360:
I stopped reading the trash after the second line.


You can continue deceiving yourself with lies told you by your parents.

You that your reasoning show you to be most probably a very young man. How old are you?

A wise old man who sees the wisdom in Biafra invading Yoruba land because some Yorubas joined Northerners to attack Biafra from the North while those that defended their lands were wrong. You are definitely a kid

lawani:
You that your reasoning show you to be most probably a very young man. How old are you?

A wise old man who sees the wisdom in Biafra invading Yoruba land because some Yorubas joined Northerners to attack Biafra from the North while those that defended their lands were wrong. You are definitely a kid

Yes I am kid as your fader.


Small man you have been noticed.

Tranquillity360:
Yes I am kid as your fader.


Small man you have been noticed.

You are a kid who is bitter for no valid reason

All Oil Revenue should also be kept in the South too
At 87% the FG has been overtaxing Oil Revenue for decades

lawani:
You are a kid who is bitter for no valid reason

Small man you have been noticed.

If they cannot pay, they should leave the country.