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Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by southsouthking(m): 6:50pm On Jan 02
Some hungry people will still disagree with him.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Proudlyngwa(m): 6:50pm On Jan 02
The chicken and egg theory comes to play

Do you tax first, or you invest government funds first.

Where will government get the money to fund those businesses and small scale investments he is talking about.


Sorry to say Peter aobinhas no idea of Governance
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by SmartyPants(m): 6:56pm On Jan 02
This is being clever by half because this same man will turn around and demand government provides infrastructure and other societal needs.

The issue is not tax, it's judicious use of tax revenue. And Peter Obi surely knows better than this populist narrative.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by jaxxy(m): 7:08pm On Jan 02
tinubu taxing poverty and claiming its not affecting the poor.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by lawani(m): 7:09pm On Jan 02
IduNaOba:
Once PBAT leaves office
Some of these stuff will be overturned that's what I guess.
No It can't be overturned. To start a good thing is difficult but once started it can't be overturned. Lagos could have been dependent on allocations like Kano today but it is not. Once you are making a budget of 2 trillion you can't go back to 500 billion.
If the current government reduces oil income to twenty percent of total income it will be a good development
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Funkyswagzz(m): 7:15pm On Jan 02
Richtaiwo:
I do not, in any way, support this tax regime. However, whenever this neatly packaged fraud called Pitobi opens his mouth to condemn it, I instinctively suspect there must be something beneficial about the tax that we Nigerians are yet to grasp. At that point, I’m forced to pause… and reconsider.

But wait, did I just read the profound wisdom that “you can’t tax yourself out of poverty”? Interesting. Should we then conclude that Nigeria is officially poor? And if so, how does that square with the earlier sermon from the same handle-mops who confidently assured us that Nigeria can conveniently pay every citizen one million naira monthly?

Surely, the handle-mops will soon emerge with another magical explanation, because consistency, as usual, is clearly not part of the brand.
I'm sorry to say but you sound very myopic. Be a little more constructive when you say your opinion. Nigerians are not as intelligent as I thought it's all crame you lot do in school
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by laurel03(m): 7:16pm On Jan 02
njokuuche77:
Okwute Himself.

This is a crucial point. Taxation should be the outcome of prosperity, not a substitute for it. When production is weak, jobs are scarce, and SMEs are struggling, increasing taxes only widens inequality and deepens hardship. Without transparency, legality, and visible public value, taxation loses its moral and economic legitimacy. No nation has taxed its way out of poverty, growth comes from production, trust, and honest leadership.
Okwute even introduced mad Tax in Anambra during is regime... I just dislike this Obi because he did lot of what he now criticise like his saint... https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16mHPeXgnz/
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by manuelkel(m): 7:18pm On Jan 02
Brendaniel:
My question about this tax law to the government is:

1. For those who are unemployed without a salary account, who determines what is income from inflow of money into individual account?

2. How would the tax be paid by such an individual, would it be deducted automatically from his account(if it is, who did the separation and calculation to determine what was income and what was inflow?), if it is not automatically deducted, do they expect such and individual to do that himself when we know most Nigerians will likely not want to do that?

3. If the 1 and 2 here are not effective, what incentives and direct benefits have the government provided for the citizens to encourage citizens to pay their taxes?

4. If the number 1, 2 and 3 is not effective for both the government and the citizens, is this not a failed tax law?

5. Why is the government compelling citizens to comply like citizens of foreign countries while the government doesn't want to comply to behave like governments of foreign countries?
You get bank, you no get bank you're not exempted from tax..... it's all about the tax base. Every commodity purchased have a tax fund attached.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Fulgur: 7:31pm On Jan 02
Richtaiwo:
[s] do not, in any way, support this tax regime. However, whenever this neatly packaged fraud called Pitobi opens his mouth to condemn it, I instinctively suspect there must be something beneficial about the tax that we Nigerians are yet to grasp. At that point, I’m forced to pause… and reconsider.

But wait, did I just read the profound wisdom that “you can’t tax yourself out of poverty”? Interesting. Should we then conclude that Nigeria is officially poor? And if so, how does that square with the earlier sermon from the same handle-mops who confidently assured us that Nigeria can conveniently pay every citizen one million naira monthly?

Surely, the handle-mops will soon emerge with another magical explanation, because consistency, as usual, is clearly not part of the brand [/s].
The noises, confusion and irregularities regarding the different version of the so called tax law avoid give every right thinking citizen cause to worry. No sentiment!
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Noblex2011(m): 7:37pm On Jan 02
Brendaniel:
My question about this tax law to the government is:

1. For those who are unemployed without a salary account, who determines what is income from inflow of money into individual account?

2. How would the tax be paid by such an individual, would it be deducted automatically from his account(if it is, who did the separation and calculation to determine what was income and what was inflow?), if it is not automatically deducted, do they expect such and individual to do that himself when we know most Nigerians will likely not want to do that?

3. If the 1 and 2 here are not effective, what incentives and direct benefits have the government provided for the citizens to encourage citizens to pay their taxes?

4. If the number 1, 2 and 3 is not effective for both the government and the citizens, is this not a failed tax law?

5. Why is the government compelling citizens to comply like citizens of foreign countries while the government doesn't want to comply to behave like governments of foreign countries?
It is because the government aren't for the citizens.
Most of them only care for their pocket.
Tinubu is a terrible president.
I must tell you that even Buhari wasn't terrible upto this
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by idonhammer: 7:40pm On Jan 02
There's nothing beneficial about it but your hatred towards Igbos will not allow you reason like a human being. Tinubu will taxed the hell out of you until you paused and kpai completely.


Keep fooling yourself

Bigot


Richtaiwo:
I do not, in any way, support this tax regime. However, whenever this neatly packaged fraud called Pitobi opens his mouth to condemn it, I instinctively suspect there must be something beneficial about the tax that we Nigerians are yet to grasp. At that point, I’m forced to pause… and reconsider.

But wait, did I just read the profound wisdom that “you can’t tax yourself out of poverty”? Interesting. Should we then conclude that Nigeria is officially poor? And if so, how does that square with the earlier sermon from the same handle-mops who confidently assured us that Nigeria can conveniently pay every citizen one million naira monthly?

Surely, the handle-mops will soon emerge with another magical explanation, because consistency, as usual, is clearly not part of the brand.

Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by garykoeman: 7:40pm On Jan 02
etokhana:
Peter Gregory Onwuabasi Obi
This guy think Nigeria suddenly forget about his misrule in Anambra.

Why did you increase tuition fees by 250% and still refuse to pay civil servants 18k minimum wage. cheesy

Gbajue for a reason. grin
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by garykoeman: 7:43pm On Jan 02
Proudlyngwa:
The chicken and egg theory comes to play

Do you tax first, or you invest government funds first.

Where will government get the money to fund those businesses and small scale investments he is talking about.


Sorry to say Peter aobinhas no idea of Governance
What do u expect from someone who receive advise from a mad man to say grin
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by GorillaApp(m): 7:44pm On Jan 02
Basicend:
Obi is brilliant. . I also perceive him as a diplomatic leader.

But most brilliant people are usually not strong-willed, determined and bold. You need the traits therein to lead a stubborn nation like Nigeria impactfully.

Peter Obi, Femi Adesina, Yemi Osibanjo etc. Will give the ideas, but don't have the balls to stand by it to the tough end.
You are wrong about Peter Obi and Osibsnjo. I don't just have the strength to begin to explain.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by AMI3(m): 7:50pm On Jan 02
Richtaiwo:
I do not, in any way, support this tax regime. However, whenever this neatly packaged fraud called Pitobi opens his mouth to condemn it, I instinctively suspect there must be something beneficial about the tax that we Nigerians are yet to grasp. At that point, I’m forced to pause… and reconsider.

But wait, did I just read the profound wisdom that “you can’t tax yourself out of poverty”? Interesting. Should we then conclude that Nigeria is officially poor? And if so, how does that square with the earlier sermon from the same handle-mops who confidently assured us that Nigeria can conveniently pay every citizen one million naira monthly?

Surely, the handle-mops will soon emerge with another magical explanation, because consistency, as usual, is clearly not part of the brand.
But u have forgotten so soon that this same government promised Nigerians heaven on earth when they were opposition.
We just finished battling with subsidy now they are introducing another issue that is causing confusion in the minds of Nigerians.
Up till now they are still finding ways to give good explanation about this so call tax.
Whereas if there was transparency and accountability people could have not raised any eye brow against them.
Peter Obi may not be a perfect guy but his submission on this is quite okay.

You want to tax the citizens what are u going to use the money for?
You removed fuel subsidy what have u been using the money for?
You still want to go and borrow, what are u borrowing for?

If u can read the right up again and forget the person that is saying it u will agree with him to a certain level.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by GorillaApp(m): 7:51pm On Jan 02
Proudlyngwa:
The chicken and egg theory comes to play

Do you tax first, or you invest government funds first.

Where will government get the money to fund those businesses and small scale investments he is talking about.


Sorry to say Peter aobinhas no idea of Governance
Nigeria is filled with so many dumb and illiterate folks. The first thing is to plug all loopholes where monies are being syphoned off. So many excesses in government. Reduce bloated spending ie buying of exotic cars for government officials, building new offices for VPs and other officials at astronomical rates. There is just too much wastage in the country. Have you seen the presidents convoy? Or even a governor.
Next is to go after looters and recover all their loots. Have you heard what malami, emefiele and the account general looted? Recover all these monies and put them into the economy.
But you guys are bereft of ideas I guess. Nonsense
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Arostar2023:
Is the government taxing the government agencies or the Nigerian masses? You should be asking the government in power why the aggressively taxing Nigerians while claiming that Nigerian economy is robust.

Richtaiwo:
I do not, in any way, support this tax regime. However, whenever this neatly packaged fraud called Pitobi opens his mouth to condemn it, I instinctively suspect there must be something beneficial about the tax that we Nigerians are yet to grasp. At that point, I’m forced to pause… and reconsider.

But wait, did I just read the profound wisdom that “you can’t tax yourself out of poverty”? Interesting. Should we then conclude that Nigeria is officially poor? And if so, how does that square with the earlier sermon from the same handle-mops who confidently assured us that Nigeria can conveniently pay every citizen one million naira monthly?

Surely, the handle-mops will soon emerge with another magical explanation, because consistency, as usual, is clearly not part of the brand.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Streetinvestor2: 7:55pm On Jan 02
That is one of the reasons. This present looters looking for more to steal after borrowing us to fouth generations. The must be kicked out in 2027 by coalition of SS,SE and north. Then after be jailed and our wealth recovered anywhere they took it in this world.
This SW president is never an option in 2027.
A government that can't show what they have done with money saved from subsidy removal besides paying governors billions to join APC
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by akpumping7720(m): 7:55pm On Jan 02
Ask him what were his own contributions to production in Anambra and watch him speak gibberish.
Politicians and mouth ehhhn
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Proudlyngwa(m): 7:55pm On Jan 02
GorillaApp:
Nigeria is filled with so many dumb and illiterate folks. The first thing is to plug all loopholes where monies are being syphoned off. So many excesses in government. Reduce bloated spending ie buying of exotic cars for government officials, building new offices for VPs and other officials at astronomical rates. There is just too much wastage in the country. Have you seen the presidents convoy? Or even a governor.
Next is to go after looters and recover all their loots. Have you heard what malami, emefiele and the account general looted? Recover all these monies and put them into the economy.
But you guys are bereft of ideas I guess. Nonsense
Where should the government get the money first to run as a government from.
B4 blocking loopholes, and other rubbishes U wrote
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by AMI3(m): 7:59pm On Jan 02
Proudlyngwa:
The chicken and egg theory comes to play

Do you tax first, or you invest government funds first.

Where will government get the money to fund those businesses and small scale investments he is talking about.


Sorry to say Peter aobinhas no idea of Governance
Do u want to tell me that the government have not been collecting tax from her citizens?
What happened to the subsidy they removed?

Obi is not against any taxation what every same Nigerians is against is the transparency

Fuel subsidy was just removed and everybody was feeling the heat of it now the new tax law show it face.
What will happen in 2027 or 2028 only God knows and we will still giving excuses without nobody accounting for anything.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Bluntemperor: 8:00pm On Jan 02
Seun Osewa,
Why is this repeating here in FP - 2- times.
Please, check - is this an Intentional Act to help your Obedient people,who are trying to gasp for water 💦?
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by grandstar(m): 8:24pm On Jan 02
The fact that Soludo did not endorse Peter Obi speaks volumes about what he thinks of Peter Obi's economic performance

Without much improved non-oil revenue, the Naira and the economy will continue to be held hostage to the price of crude oil. It is a desperately needed shock absorber.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by CodeTemplarr: 8:33pm On Jan 02
Taxation is needed but never at the expense of production. God first bless man with fruitfulness and multiplication before taxing israel. Here Tinubu is ignoring productive environment and prioritizing taxation.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Eriokanmi: 8:35pm On Jan 02
Tell them. Most companies have shut down operations as a result of their inept rule. Some multinationals have also left Nigeria. These were the main causes of the depletion in the government revenues.

Only fin-techs are thriving now and my question is, how does this bring food to the table of the common man? There would only be so much devalued naira chasing limited goods hence, the need to keep importing and this will always affect our GDP the more. Inflation and unemployment would keep rising as well. I don't know the university those advising them graduated from. Even Taiwo, the tax guru, as experienced as he claims to be has contradicted himself on the tax issue.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by amp01(m): 8:36pm On Jan 02
Richtaiwo:
I do not, in any way, support this tax regime. However, whenever this neatly packaged fraud called Pitobi opens his mouth to condemn it, I instinctively suspect there must be something beneficial about the tax that we Nigerians are yet to grasp. At that point, I’m forced to pause… and reconsider.

But wait, did I just read the profound wisdom that “you can’t tax yourself out of poverty”? Interesting. Should we then conclude that Nigeria is officially poor? And if so, how does that square with the earlier sermon from the same handle-mops who confidently assured us that Nigeria can conveniently pay every citizen one million naira monthly?

Surely, the handle-mops will soon emerge with another magical explanation, because consistency, as usual, is clearly not part of the brand.
did peter Obi condem the tax policy or you did not understand the write up or you just against Obi for no just cause
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by CodeTemplarr: 8:38pm On Jan 02
grandstar:
The fact that Soludo did not endorse Peter Obi speaks volumes about what he thinks of Peter Obi's economic performance

Without much improved non-oil revenue, the Naira and the economy will continue to be held hostage to the price of crude oil. It is a desperately needed shock absorber.
So tax is your shock absorber? I think production to taxation ratio must be gotteb right to make meaning out of taxation. Tinubu is taxing us for our existence and not for our prosperity. How do you explain N50 flat tax for various transfer amount above N10,000?
Same bandwidth, processor power, network, and general resource used to send N10m is what is needed to transfer N10,000, so why a flat N50 fee?

Simple. Taxation of exisyence and not prosperity.
Re: You must produce not tax Your Way Out Of Poverty - Peter Obi by Kemetian: 8:40pm On Jan 02
helinues:
The town crier don start again in the new year

The new tax rate is lower than the previous one. The only difference is increasing of tax base.

Everything shouldn't be about cho cho cho . If the projects benefits are equality, let the tax also be equality
Because he knows most people don't reason.

Peter Obi is a saboteur.

If he and Atiku ever get into power, they will destroy this country. They don't know anything.
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