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Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt - Politics (9) - Nairaland

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Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Obiedun(m): 5:19pm On Jan 02
Kukutente23:
What is wrong with keeping it?
This is how these ruinous APC was shouting spend the money that crashed ECA till today
Now you are angry that a gov decided to keep money in a state account
But you worship a man who uses bullion vans to take state money to his house to share pittance to your mothers
Shame!!
I early thought I was engaging someone who is objective and understanding. I have known the kind of person you are.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by JOLLOFman(m): 6:04pm On Jan 02
Mumu niyin ni? FG gave the money in NOVEMBER 2024. SEYI Makinde was approving money in MAY 2024
barkays001:
https://tribuneonlineng.com/oyo-govt-approves-n4-5bn-for-survivors-victims-of-bodija-explosion/
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by vanitybutiwanti: 6:09pm On Jan 02
Eriokanmi:
I'm not surprised seeing this. Makinde is a very prudent man. Have you been to Oyo State before ? He used to buy some things needed by the State by himself after seeing killing quotes submitted by contractors. Nobody is complaining because he was voted by the masses. He's not answerable to any godfather so, he's spending every penny received on the development of the state.
.By the way, unlike fayose, Makinde was already a multibillionaire before becoming governor. Wetin e wan take 30bn belong to the state do? Na fayose be tout wey no fit survive without politics. He has no single investment he can count on, just like wike
Who told you that wike has no investment he can count on? grin wike is easily one of the highest employers of labour in Rivers state, you guys just open your mouth to talk about things you know nothing about. And who told you that makinde is not stealing government money? How old are you? Are you a child? grin
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by adekolaelect(m): 6:30pm On Jan 02
Kukutente23:
1. Very wrong. No 50bn was given and he never posted evidence of 50bn disbursed. Go back and check what he called evidence
2. There's no moral burden on Seyi Makinde to declare incomplete payments which he never spent. What the money is meant for is clearly written in the narration and it does not make sense for money to be spent when incomplete. That's what leads to incomplete projects. The FG should explain why they've not fulfilled the payment after 2 years and where the money is
3. Again. Seyi has no business announcing incomplete funds. The FG should have announced it as they used to do for other states especially as they did for Niger and Borno states. Why did FG hide the fact that they gave 30bn out of 50bn to a state if not that they are being mischievous
4. It is you who is reasoning along partisan lines. Makinde did absolutely nothing wrong. The money is in the account untouched. The money is not complete. Yet you're placing moral burden on Seyi for incomplete funding while excusing FG that claimed to approve 50bn but only released 30bn. We've seen the 30bn. Where's the remaining 20bn from FG side
Thanks for your best analysis why it is not normal for Seyi to say good things that came from fg as support for over 2 years.. Thank you for letings us know that transparencing is an abomination in this political dispensation . Thank you for letting us know that givers are the Sinner when the receiver failed to declare what was given to him over 2 years BCS it is never completed. Thank you for sweet wording to cover up why Seyi initially deneyed the receipt of the fuñds untill Evidences was posted against him . why did he Deneyed and insulted Fayose who alleged him untill Evidences was posted ?. Thank you for your ability to defend the work assigned to you.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by hush15: 6:52pm On Jan 02
Wallade:
You mean that ₦30B was sitting in an account, yielding interest that is probably not being declared fully, if declared at all.

While those affected by the bombings have moved on with the challenges as they suffer the consequences and manage the situation despite government intervention funds being locked down in an account by the governor of the state.
Is it the 20billion that is not yielding interest somewhere... You faulting the wrong person. Why was 20billion withheld. Atleast, we know what the 30billion is for. Go and check the papers given to Fayose as an attack dog, it says 50billion, if not, he wont have said 50billion. He thought he was doing Makinde, but he only displayed the con artists in FG....
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by hush15: 7:00pm On Jan 02
Wallade:
You are not serious.

Which project? Besides, have you ever been at Project Management? Who would transfer all funds for projects of such amount without staggering it into milestones.

No sane financier releases such funds as a whole at once. The amount release to him is still being warehoused for what exactly. Is the government of Oyo state trying to say they never needed the money in the first place.
Which Financiers are you talking. Someone approved 50billion only 30, kept 20. If FG was financing, then the onus is on FG to declare and let Nigerians know what they financing and what the financing structure look like. You all keep defending thievery with full chest. The governor was wise not to spend that fund till what was approved was disbursed to avoid stupid folks like the ones I reading here.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Wallade(m): 7:24pm On Jan 02
This
hush15:
Which Financiers are you talking. Someone approved 50billion only 30, kept 20. If FG was financing, then the onus is on FG to declare and let Nigerians know what they financing and what the financing structure look like. You all keep defending thievery with full chest. The governor was wise not to spend that fund till what was approved was disbursed to avoid stupid folks like the ones I reading here.
Your political affiliation has made you lose your sense of reasoning
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Wallade(m): 7:26pm On Jan 02
hush15:
Is it the 20billion that is not yielding interest somewhere... You faulting the wrong person. Why was 20billion withheld. Atleast, we know what the 30billion is for. Go and check the papers given to Fayose as an attack dog, it says 50billion, if not, he wont have said 50billion. He thought he was doing Makinde, but he only displayed the con artists in FG....
Your political affiliation and sentiments is affecting your sense of reasoning.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Wallade(m): 7:38pm On Jan 02
Kukutente23:
But he has accounted for it with evidence
FG should complete the payment so that the project can start
Do you remember the parable of the servants who were given talents in the bible. Do you remember the one that went to hide his talents in the ground and when the master asked about the talents, he brought the one inside the ground.

The master took it off him and gave to the one that used his talents. It will be more useful in the hands of the productive servant.

You asked for ₦100B but ₦50B was approved for you and shortly ₦30B was released to you and then you went to hide or keep the money in a commercial bank account and claim that you were waiting for the balance of ₦20B before you start utilizing it for the purpose that you asked.

Doesn't that sound ridiculous!

Nonsense.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Wallade(m): 7:38pm On Jan 02
Kukutente23:
But he has accounted for it with evidence
FG should complete the payment so that the project can start
Do you remember the parable of the servants who were given talents in the bible. Do you remember the one that went to hide his talents in the ground and when the master asked about the talents, he brought the one inside the ground.

The master took it off him and gave to the one that used his talents. It will be more useful in the hands of the productive servant.

You asked for ₦100B but ₦50B was approved for you and shortly ₦30B was released to you and then you went to hide or keep the money in a commercial bank account and claim that you were waiting for the balance of ₦20B before you start utilizing it for the purpose that you asked.

Doesn't that sound ridiculous! That sounds very irresponsible.

Nonsense.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Eriokanmi: 7:49pm On Jan 02
vanitybutiwanti:
Who told you that wike has no investment he can count on? grin wike is easily one of the highest employers of labour in Rivers state, you guys just open your mouth to talk about things you know nothing about. And who told you that makinde is not stealing government money? How old are you? Are you a child? grin
Mr defender, which company did wike have before entering politics ? I have his resume in my palms even long before he became the LG chairman in rivers. All the money he made,either by hook or crook, was through politics.

Makinde was multi billion rich before entering pioitics. He owns a thriving Oil and Gas Company. No politician is a saint but makinde isn't a thief. I'm not from oyo, neither am I a pdp member. I also didn't say wike didn't work as governor in rivers, using rivers money. With godfather in place, that 30bn left in the account of oyo state for so long would have vanished long ago. Unlike many governors, he didn't even invest the money. Its same amount he received that's there.
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Kukutente23: 10:15pm On Jan 02
Wallade:
Do you remember the parable of the servants who were given talents in the bible. Do you remember the one that went to hide his talents in the ground and when the master asked about the talents, he brought the one inside the ground.

The master took it off him and gave to the one that used his talents. It will be more useful in the hands of the productive servant.

You asked for ₦100B but ₦50B was approved for you and shortly ₦30B was released to you and then you went to hide or keep the money in a commercial bank account and claim that you were waiting for the balance of ₦20B before you start utilizing it for the purpose that you asked.

Doesn't that sound ridiculous! That sounds very irresponsible.

Nonsense.
Lol
This one has taken matters of public accountability to the bible
Is the Bible the fiscal responsibility act of the budget or anti-money laundering act?
Anyways, in the same parable you referred to, the master actually recommended to the servant that he should have taken the talent given him to the bank to keep instead of burying it which is exactly what Seyi Makinde did in this case. (See Matthew 25:14-30)

Secondly, the money was not released "shortly" but 11 months later
The illustration you gave is the reason why we have so many uncompleted projects littering our country. Oyo-Ogbomoso expressway is still uncompleted after over 20 years due to the mentality of piecemeal and haphazard release of approved funds. The sad thing is how the cost has ballooned over time with no tangible result to match it. In project management, funds release should have a timeline that should be adhered to. Anything outside this is opening the door for waste and looting.

Rubbish
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Kukutente23: 10:45pm On Jan 02
adekolaelect:
Thanks for your best analysis why it is not normal for Seyi to say good things that came from fg as support for over 2 years.. Thank you for letings us know that transparencing is an abomination in this political dispensation . Thank you for letting us know that givers are the Sinner when the receiver failed to declare what was given to him over 2 years BCS it is never completed. Thank you for sweet wording to cover up why Seyi initially deneyed the receipt of the fuñds untill Evidences was posted against him . why did he Deneyed and insulted Fayose who alleged him untill Evidences was posted ?. Thank you for your ability to defend the work assigned to you.
Most of you are simply ignorant of due process
The FRA 2007 mandates FG to publish all its spending on a monthly basis. Check on the open treasury portal and govspend, you'll not see any such transaction which means it was not reported by FG in contravention of the law.
The FG has a responsibility to announce the payment just as it did for Niger and Borno states which later turned audio and for all the states during the subsidy palliative scam. If the govt could announce scams, how come they found it difficult to announce genuine transactions if not that they were also planning to chop the 20bn. This is two years. Where is the 20bn?
Seyi Makinde never denied receiving money. He denied receiving 50bn and that fact stands till today
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Kukutente23:
Wallade:
I don't know if you are being comedian or serious however, if you are serious, then I would just be amazed at your level of reasoning and mentality.

Let me ask you a question: assuming you want to build a house and your engineers and quantity surveyor cost it at ₦1B.

Howevee, the financier indicated that they can only grant you ₦500M. Upon that correspondence, the financier forwarded ₦300M to your account for the construction of the house, while withholding a balance of ₦200M.

Would you not commence the construction of the house, render accounts to the financier on anticipation that when the ₦300M is exhausted, you will demand the ₦200M?

Kindly respond.
This is a foolish way to execute a project. It's obvious you're not a project manager. Funding is an important aspect of project management and only a dullard will start a project when the source of funding is not stable.
If N300m is forwarded to my account instead of N500m, I'll raise a query for the balance reminding them of the importance of adequate funding for the success of the project. If I don't get a response, the project will be put on hold until I get a cogent, straightforward response about funding arrangements. This is important for ease of accountability and transparency and more importantly, to ensure the project will be completed
Anticipation is not a valid plan for financing in project management
BTW, you're still making the same mistake. That project will not be completed since the total cost is N1B and you have only 30% fund with you with approval for max 50% funds. So how do you intend to complete the project? I'm sure you're looking to deliver substandard result and endanger lives.
Typical APC mentality
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by hush15: 11:32pm On Jan 02
Wallade:
Your political affiliation and sentiments is affecting your sense of reasoning.
So it is not your political affiliation that is made you lost yourself... You see, a typical APC mentality. When it is them, they are politically correct but when it is others, everybody is saying nonsense
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by hush15: 11:36pm On Jan 02
Kukutente23:
This is a foolish way to execute a project. It's obvious you're not a project manager. Funding is an important aspect of project management and only a dullard will start a project when the source of funding is not stable.
If N300m is forwarded to my account instead of N500m, I'll raise a query for the balance reminding them of the importance of adequate funding for the success of the project. If I don't get a response, the project will be put on hold until I get a cogent, straightforward response about funding arrangements. This is important for ease of accountability and transparency and more importantly, to ensure the project will be completed
Anticipation is not a valid plan for financing in project management
The governor did raise your point but they were giving conditions to release the rest and your guess is as good as mine
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by adekolaelect(m): 8:26am On Jan 03
Kukutente23:
Most of you are simply ignorant of due process
The FRA 2007 mandates FG to publish all its spending on a monthly basis. Check on the open treasury portal and govspend, you'll not see any such transaction which means it was not reported by FG in contravention of the law.
The FG has a responsibility to announce the payment just as it did for Niger and Borno states which later turned audio and for all the states during the subsidy palliative scam. If the govt could announce scams, how come they found it difficult to announce genuine transactions if not that they were also planning to chop the 20bn. This is two years. Where is the 20bn?
Seyi Makinde never denied receiving money. He denied receiving 50bn and that fact stands till today
Can you see how you sound ? It is only the responsibility of the giver to announce what is given not the receivers? The questions you should asked if you have humans emperty is " has he borrowed to settle those need to be compensated base on the topic of the funds before he decided to keep the 30b unused in the bank ? Does he has the feelings of his people and love for heart for keeping what is meant to be distributed in a bank for up to 2 years? If he has borrowed to do that where did it appeared in the state expenses that the money was borrowed from the state that will later return when the FG make complete payment of the said funds ? Is it how the FG failed to write in the report mater to you or who suffered and what made it impossible for your pay master to be transparent in his style of governance ? Are you not concerned about those that need to benefit from the said funds kept in the bank by your pay master? Are you not feeling shame for this work given to you? Lastly pls can you tell me the difference between what your pay master did and what many of them did during COVID palliative saga?
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Kukutente23: 11:25am On Jan 03
adekolaelect:
Can you see how you sound ? It is only the responsibility of the giver to announce what is given not the receivers? The questions you should asked if you have humans emperty is " has he borrowed to settle those need to be compensated base on the topic of the funds before he decided to keep the 30b unused in the bank ? Does he has the feelings of his people and love for heart for keeping what is meant to be distributed in a bank for up to 2 years? If he has borrowed to do that where did it appeared in the state expenses that the money was borrowed from the state that will later return when the FG make complete payment of the said funds ? Is it how the FG failed to write in the report mater to you or who suffered and what made it impossible for your pay master to be transparent in his style of governance ? Are you not concerned about those that need to benefit from the said funds kept in the bank by your pay master? Are you not feeling shame for this work given to you? Lastly pls can you tell me the difference between what your pay master did and what many of them did during COVID palliative saga?
What is obvious throughout this thread is that most of you did not even get the right info nor read Makinde's statement in the Op before you jumped on his back.

The state has already compensated all those who needed to be compensated. You sef reason am if you get sense.

So it makes sense to you to leave the victims in the hospital and without houses from January till November when the FG released piecemeal money?

So where do you expect the victims to live for 11 months? Where do you expect the victims to get money for their treatment if Makinde is waiting for FG?

Have you seen any victim come out since 2024 to say they've not been compensated or taken care of?

The money requested was to rebuild some roads and infrastructure affected by the explosion not for the victims. That's what was reduced to 50bn from 100bn requested and then only 30bn was released after almost a year

So before you do zombie work abeg get yourself properly informed!!
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by adekolaelect(m): 5:13pm On Jan 03
Nu
Kukutente23:
What is obvious throughout this thread is that most of you did not even get the right info nor read Makinde's statement in the Op before you jumped on his back.

The state has already compensated all those who needed to be compensated. You sef reason am if you get sense.

So it makes sense to you to leave the victims in the hospital and without houses from January till November when the FG released piecemeal money?

So where do you expect the victims to live for 11 months? Where do you expect the victims to get money for their treatment if Makinde is waiting for FG?

Have you seen any victim come out since 2024 to say they've not been compensated or taken care of?

The money requested was to rebuild some roads and infrastructure affected by the explosion not for the victims. That's what was reduced to 50bn from 100bn requested and then only 30bn was released after almost a year

So before you do zombie work abeg get yourself properly informed!!
weldone political Jobber . I asked you did Seyi told his people that he borrowed state funds to pay compensations which he had already requested from the FG? Can you tell his plans on the undisclosed funds stached in the bank for over 2 years? Are you saying it was the best decisions for saying for not disclosed what was given to him by fg and for keeping the funds in a bank for up to 2 years ? Politicians are not the major problems but many of you their Defenders .
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by Kukutente23: 6:33pm On Jan 03
adekolaelect:
Nu weldone political Jobber . I asked you did Seyi told his people that he borrowed state funds to pay compensations which he had already requested from the FG? Can you tell his plans on the undisclosed funds stached in the bank for over 2 years? Are you saying it was the best decisions for saying for not disclosed what was given to him by fg and for keeping the funds in a bank for up to 2 years ? Politicians are not the major problems but many of you their Defenders .
I really don't see any sense in this your post
You're just rambling aimlessly and asking irrelevant questions
Gather your thoughts
Be articulate
Then present a fact based position
Don't just be writing because you want the label of thief to stick on Makinde by all means even silly ones
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by adekolaelect(m): 7:53pm On Jan 03
Kukutente23:
I really don't see any sense in this your post
You're just rambling aimlessly and asking irrelevant questions
Gather your thoughts
Be articulate
Then present a fact based position
Don't just be writing because you want the label of thief to stick on Makinde by all means even silly ones
you are welcome . You have tried your best . It is not easy to do the job you were called for .
Re: Bodija Explosion: FG's ₦30bn untouched, ₦20bn yet to be paid - Oyo Govt by vanitybutiwanti: 7:51pm On Jan 04
Eriokanmi:
Mr defender, which company did wike have before entering politics ? I have his resume in my palms even long before he became the LG chairman in rivers. All the money he made,either by hook or crook, was through politics.

Makinde was multi billion rich before entering pioitics. He owns a thriving Oil and Gas Company. No politician is a saint but makinde isn't a thief. I'm not from oyo, neither am I a pdp member. I also didn't say wike didn't work as governor in rivers, using rivers money. With godfather in place, that 30bn left in the account of oyo state for so long would have vanished long ago. Unlike many governors, he didn't even invest the money. Its same amount he received that's there.
[b]Governors in Nigeria have the power to make a nonentity a billionaire over night so why do you expect wike to be broke? Are you from Rivers? Even before wike became governor and minister of education, he already had a company which was into construction, leasing and manufacturing, the fact that you dont see it on his resumes was because those ventures were side hustles while he was an active political player. Real Rivers people know, as a matter of fact, a company he established since his LGA chairmanship days got a contract in the NLNG $10b project and mind you Buhari was president then. You speak with certainty about wike, Wikes businesses cuts across oil and gas, Banking, hospitality, healthcare, large scale farming, construction and other Ventures we are not privy to. How do you even reckon politicians get rich? You think they just move state money into an empty bank account? Let me school you, politicians in Nigeria get rich by awarding contracts to firms they are affiliated to, upon execution of the project, the kickbacks they get from the projects is how they get rich. Wike has a lot of vehicles actively employing people and adding value in the state. Its just like Tinubu who awarded the $10b coastal road project to his hitech, the Alpha Beta contract in lagos and the oando deal he facilitated as soon as he became president. Is alpha beta not adding value and employing people? Is oando not employing people? What about hi tech? The fact that you don't like an individual doesn't mean you should go around talking about things you know nothing about. Wike also had all his three kids in the US, you think if he was a broke lowlife, he'd have achieved that?[/b]
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