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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:13am On Jan 05
Have anyone done wes evaluation here before?
Please I have some questions
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:14am On Jan 05
GloriousGbola:
actually ties into trumps not thinking things through

an unpopular president, disaffected citizens - you quietly back a coup. everyone knows whats up but you have deniability
You seem to think coups are that easy to stage and carry out successfully especially in a hostile country like Venezuela. Most likely the president has the military in his pocket who are willing to crush any attempted coup.

I want to believe the Americans must have contemplated the idea of sponsoring a coup but concluded it won't work as you assume it should.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:15am On Jan 05
Ellexy:
No matter what, the US won't allow the country within it's hemisphere with the largest oil deposit to fall in the hands of it's enemies like Russia, China and Iran. It's beyond the oil but the oil is also a vital part of it all. Infact Chinese officials where on ground the night the Op was carried out just to send a message to China.
Yeah, that's a major factor definitely.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 10:18am On Jan 05
Between Lordadam12 and David Hundeyin I wonder who'll run mad first from their obsession with the US. Both have been very restless.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 10:34am On Jan 05
But the US military is the strongest the world has ever known. They did this without informing any of their allies maybe except Israel. Maduro was living in a fortified military base, yet it didn't deter them. They went in, got him and his wife without any casualty and left. Respect.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:35am On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
You seem to think coups are that easy to stage and carry out successfully especially in a hostile country like Venezuela. Most likely the president has the military in his pocket who are willing to crush any attempted coup.

I want to believe the Americans must have contemplated the idea of sponsoring a coup but concluded it won't work as you assume it should.
Look how many coups have been staged in Africa over the past three years

And the CIA has extensive experience in coups in Latin America

Then again, they have also learnt that coups and counter coups can go sideways (see iran)
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:42am On Jan 05
GloriousGbola:
And the CIA has extensive experience in coups in Latin America

Then again, they have also learnt that coups and counter coups can go sideways (see iran)
The bold is exactly my point; they would've considered the coup option and decided against it . Most likely because they don't see it being as effective they would expect it to.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:45am On Jan 05
Ellexy:
But the US military is the strongest the world has ever known. They did this without informing any of their allies maybe except Israel. Maduro was living in a fortified military base, yet it didn't deter them. They went in, got him and his wife without any casualty and left. Respect.
There will definitely be casualties; maybe not fatalities but they would have military men who caught bullets.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 10:52am On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
There will definitely be casualties; maybe not fatalities but they would have military men who caught bullets.
Yes I think they reported they had one or two deltas wounded but nothing fatal and it's like they lost a chopper too.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 10:54am On Jan 05
Bimmarlykay:
To what end APC?To what end?
It was Tinubu official handle that posted this image, is it truly fake?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by akwesenana: 11:48am On Jan 05
https://x.com/i/status/2008092644266656148

This is bad. It's better to ignore at best.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 11:51am On Jan 05
Look at the idiots running this country..

The president of Nigeria is having his picture taken with a phone of poor camera quality like WTF kinda explanation is this?

The worst of us are in power truly..

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ChristineC: 11:57am On Jan 05
akwesenana:
https://x.com/i/status/2008092644266656148

This is bad. It's better to ignore at best.
no to ignore is worse. that will be a confirmation.
the original poor quality picture should have been posted to dispel rumour.
someone in Tinubu's entourage having a phone with poor camera though.
even a $200 Tecno these days dey sharp like madt

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:02pm On Jan 05
CrystalTiger:
Look at the idiots running this country..

The president of Nigeria is having his picture taken with a phone of poor camera quality like WTF kinda explanation is this?

The worst of us are in power truly..
Are u surprised? Is it not the same Tinubu that stole Donald Duke's childhood photograph and claimed it as his?

I'm not surprised if I hear say Tinubu and his co-travellers forged a document or photograph. No be today dem start.

People have already queried grok via prompt and the AI confirmed the picture was entirely generated with AI and not the clock and bull story of using grok to edit an original low quality picture shoch Bayo is selling to gullible people.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:05pm On Jan 05
akwesenana:
https://x.com/i/status/2008092644266656148

This is bad. It's better to ignore at best.
They are even indicting themselves with this nonsense explanation. The office of the Media & Publicity under the presidency has over a billion naira budgeted for buying media equipment in the running budget o. Yet they are claiming the picture was taken with low quality camera.

Indeed they have no iota of shame and they know their lackeys will defend this nonsense explanation with their last drop of blood.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 12:07pm On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
Are u surprised? Is it not the same Tinubu that stole Donald Duke's childhood photograph and claimed it as his?

I'm not surprised if I hear say Tinubu and his co-travellers forged a document or photograph. No be today dem start.

People have already queried grok via prompt and the AI confirmed the picture was entirely generated with AI and not the clock and bull story of using grok to edit an original low quality picture shoch Bayo is selling to gullible people.
Like what's the need for this kind of lie? What's the actual need? I can't believe the things this man does most times..

Nobody is asking him to post picture or say he had dinner, nna mehn , forgery dey the nigga bone marrow
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:14pm On Jan 05
CrystalTiger:
Like what's the need for this kind of lie? What's the actual need? I can't believe the things this man does most times..

Nobody is asking him to post picture or say he had dinner, nna mehn , forgery dey the nigga bone marrow
Maybe it's a reflex action for him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:25pm On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
Are u surprised? Is it not the same Tinubu that stole Donald Duke's childhood photograph and claimed it as his?

I'm not surprised if I hear say Tinubu and his co-travellers forged a document or photograph. No be today dem start.

People have already queried grok via prompt and the AI confirmed the picture was entirely generated with AI and not the clock and bull story of using grok to edit an original low quality picture shoch Bayo is selling to gullible people.
this dependency on LLMs all around will be the death of humanity in general and nigerians in particular. with the budget available to the team - they should be using photoshop to tweak any photos, not handing them over to an LLM.l it also smacks of the lowest forms of mental laziness across board - whatever the photo was , it was uploaded without the most basic checks. for there to be a grok watermark indicated whoever did this was using a free version.

also, personally i am irritated when ever i see people confidently posting i asked grok - especially for Nigerian matters which do not have that much online documentation to begin with

this is on the social media handlers
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:34pm On Jan 05
GloriousGbola:
this dependency on LLMs all around will be the death of humanity in general and nigerians in particular. with the budget available to the team - they should be using photoshop to tweak any photos, not handing them over to an LLM.l it also smacks of the lowest forms of mental laziness across board - whatever the photo was , it was uploaded without the most basic checks. for there to be a grok watermark indicated whoever did this was using a free version.

also, personally i am irritated when ever i see people confidently posting i asked grok - especially for Nigerian matters which do not have that much online documentation to begin with

this is on the social media handlers
It's obviously a blatant lie that they used Grok to edit a low quality picture.

We all know nobody would use low quality camera to take the president's pictures. Even Buhari that wasn't as flamboyant as Tinubu and doesn't have much digital handlers like Tinubu, we saw how sharp his pictures always come out.

Only people who enjoy being lied to will believe this cock and bull story by Bayo Onanuga.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 1:34pm On Jan 05
Niger state road is just too bad, considering they’ve had two head of state from the state. From Suleja to Kainji, na death trap be those road. We spent 9+ hours in Niger alone

Izzou, how you dey do am whenever you Dey go north cause apart from that Kaaba Abuja nassarawa road, the rest na trash, even kaduna kafanchan road na rubbish.

Nigerian government no dey try at all
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:36pm On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
Well, I guess that's how geopolitics works. They must find something to say when taking a drastic action like this one.

I watched a video Rubio talking Venezuela being in the western Hemisphere and that they (America) will not open their eyes while Venezuela gives an opening for China, Russia and their other adversaries to set up camp in their backyard. More like they know the moment Venezuela warms up to those aforementioned superpowers through oil deals, America will be under threat from their presence in Venezuela.

So maybe that is also another reason for the whole arrest and capture of Maduro. I don't think the whole thing is as a result of one single reason.
Exactly. You are getting the point.

You pile up reasons and excuses for your actions and hope one or all stick.

The drug issue is just another reason/excuse to add. It is not the actual reason for the action but it is also not untrue.

Even the Noriega that was removed back in the day for drug trafficking, the US knew about him for years but overlooked it as long as he was useful to them. When he became more of a liability they removed him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:41pm On Jan 05
afrodoc2:
Exactly. You are getting the point.

You pile up reasons and excuses for your actions and hope one or all stick.

The drug issue is just another reason/excuse to add. It is not the actual reason for the action but it is also not untrue.

Even the Noriega that was removed back in the day for drug trafficking, the US knew about him for years but overlooked it as long as he was useful to them. When he became more of a liability they removed him.
well...

venezuela being a drug haven does not automatically translate to the president being a drug trafficker

that is like saying because Nigeria has a large number of fraudsters, the presidency is also involved in same

then again - it is trump and his gang we are talking about here so here we are.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:54pm On Jan 05
GloriousGbola:
well...

venezuela being a drug haven does not automatically translate to the president being a drug trafficker

that is like saying because Nigeria has a large number of fraudsters, the presidency is also involved in same
I do not have any knowledge of Maduro himself being a trafficker but I do know that numerous members of the Venezuelan government and especially its military have been involved in drug trafficking for years.

The US can claim that only a regime change can address the problems since the present government itself is tainted and has proved itself either unwilling or unable to solve the problem. Or maybe they can claim that they have intelligence linking Maduro to those cliques in his government that are involved in the business.

I am not in support of a country unilaterally going to another country to arrest its president, especially since I believe that the core reason is a selfish need to exploit that country.

However, the point that Venezuela is incredibly porous to drug trafficking because upper echelon members of government and military are involved is a fact. It is not made up. Trump might be exploiting it for his own selfish reasons but it does not take away from that real problem.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimmarlykay(m): 1:54pm On Jan 05
TemporaryHansel:
Between Lordadam12 and David Hundeyin I wonder who'll run mad first from their obsession with the US. Both have been very restless.
grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimmarlykay(m): 2:04pm On Jan 05
CrystalTiger:
It was Tinubu official handle that posted this image, is it truly fake?
In my opinion,there are two possibilities: either he met with President Paul,but they used A.I to enhance his appearance, or something.

Or

B- he never met the man, and A.I-generated pictures were used instead.

But if option B is true, why would the president of a country use AI to deceive his people,to the extent of using a fellow president for deceptive purpose.🤔
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimmarlykay(m): 2:11pm On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
They are even indicting themselves with this nonsense explanation. The office of the Media & Publicity under the presidency has over a billion naira budgeted for buying media equipment in the running budget o. Yet they are claiming the picture was taken with low quality camera.

Indeed they have no iota of shame and they know their lackeys will defend this nonsense explanation with their last drop of blood.
Are you surprised? Remember its an APC thingy.

2027 Election is already choreographed trust me. grin grin

Bunch of decepticons.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 2:19pm On Jan 05
Heat wan kpai me, where the hell is harmattan
For all this heat, I haven't heard or seen anyone suffer heat stroke

Ibime I read extreme heat can also cause tyre burst and there have been report cases of accidents back to back in the country recently
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Jan 05
Spy360:
That true.

And we are here supporting subsidy removal and more taxes. Whereas Tinubu is in France having fake lunch with Kagame.

Ramdeuter aren't we?
That is because when you look at Nigerias situation removing subsidy is the best policy which is why every candidate said it expliciyly that it would be removed
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:29pm On Jan 05
popizaino:
The irony is that most of these Venezuelans who have now settled in the West are now speaking against Trump's action while those back home are jubilating and congratulating Trump.
The Venezuelans in the west are all jubilating at the removal of Maduro

These are Venzuelans in Florida


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPmB5UeEPY

Venezuelans in New York


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krS__4LdVVY
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 2:33pm On Jan 05
iamoyindamola:
Heat wan kpai me, where the hell is harmattan
For all this heat, I haven't heard or seen anyone suffer heat stroke

Ibime I read extreme heat can also cause tyre burst and there have been report cases of accidents back to back in the country recently
Jos is the best place to be cause that place and heat no gel at all
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:34pm On Jan 05
BlueRayDick:
Well, I guess that's how geopolitics works. They must find something to say when taking a drastic action like this one.

I watched a video Rubio talking Venezuela being in the western Hemisphere and that they (America) will not open their eyes while Venezuela gives an opening for China, Russia and their other adversaries to set up camp in their backyard. More like they know the moment Venezuela warms up to those aforementioned superpowers through oil deals, America will be under threat from their presence in Venezuela.

So maybe that is also another reason for the whole arrest and capture of Maduro. I don't think the whole thing is as a result of one single reason.
This is the key thing. America will be foolish to allow a resource rich country in its hemisphere to go rogue and be controlled by other enemy states

America has to dictate how things are done in its hemisphere
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:35pm On Jan 05
Ellexy:
No matter what, the US won't allow a country within it's hemisphere with the largest oil deposit to fall in the hands of it's enemies like Russia, China and Iran. It's beyond the oil but the oil is also a vital part of it all. Infact Chinese officials where on ground the night the Op was carried out just to send a message to China.
Simple and straightforward
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