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Antichristian2:
You and balderdash are like 5 and 6!

Where was Jesus from 1-11 years? Where was Jesus from 13-29 years?

This is really error 404!

How does that information save you from your sins?

Even his people have nothing to give about it. It's like he doesn't exist in Israel/Palaestine! Yet you claimed oral tradition before Jesus was passed down when even Jesus's tradition and 88% life span is lost!

How does the history of His lifespan affect the mystery of salvation from sin and the glorious association with the Father?

Are you bragging because of what Mohammed copied from the fake gospel of Thomas?

FxMasterz:
Are you bragging because of what Mohammed copied from the fake gospel of Thomas?

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How do you determine what gospels are fake?
Surely you know the Roman Curia selected those in today's bible from hundreds.

FxMasterz:
How does that information save you from your sins?

At least we truly know the full life of your God wey become man!

How does the history of His lifespan affect the mystery of salvation from sin and the glorious association with the Father?

Are you bragging because of what Mohammed copied from the fake gospel of Thomas?

Where was Jesus from 1-11 years? Where was Jesus from 13-29 years? Matthew, Mark, Luke and John certainly did have something to hide!

DeepSight:
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How do you determine what gospels are fake?
Surely you know the Roman Curia selected those in today's bible from hundreds.

My brother, we're not the ones to determine what's fake. People lived in the times of authors who wrote any book, and the people who lived at the time of the authors know who wrote what? They're the ones who know what's fake and what's genuine. Ours is to accept what they accepted and reject what they rejected.

There are many books being written in our own days that in centuries time, their authorships would be debated. But if those people accept what we accept today and reject what we reject today on the basis of confirmed authorship, they'll be fine.

FxMasterz:
My brother, we're not the ones to determine what's fake. People lived in the times of authors who wrote any book, and the people who lived at the time of the authors know who wrote what? They're the ones who know what's fake and what's genuine. Ours is to accept what they accepted and reject what they rejected.

There are many books being written in our own days that in centuries time, their authorships would be debated. But if those people accept what we accept today and reject what we reject today on the basis of confirmed authorship, they'll be fine.

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Problem is that it is well known that the authors of the gospels in the bible are not even known. People wrote and attributed to the apostles. You can check this out, don't take my word for it.

Antichristian2:
At least we truly know the full life of your God wey become man!

Would you please narrate it fully?

Where was Jesus from 1-11 years? Where was Jesus from 13-29 years? Matthew, Mark, Luke and John certainly did have something to hide!

He was in Egypt as a Baby and was returned to Israel after about 3 years. How does that give you salvation?

All those years, He was in His Father's shop learning carpentry. He didn't nothing significant worthy of records other than being obedient to His parents. Again, how does that give you salvation?

Or, do you feel like feeling up those insignificant years with stories from the gospel of Thomas found in the Quran?

DeepSight:
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Problem is that it is well known that the authors of the gospels in the bible are not even known. People wrote and attributed to the apostles. You can check this out, don't take my word for it.

No no no no. The Christian sect was a persecuted sect in the early days. Therefore, most of them were not known because they met mostly in hiding. But within the sect, they know themselves. And what they passed on is what we hold unto today.

FxMasterz:
No no no no. The Christian sect was a persecuted sect in the early days. Therefore, most of them were not known because they met mostly in hiding. But within the sect, they know themselves. And what they passed on is what we hold unto today.

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The thing is also that there were hundreds of such writings, also the councils where these things were decided were a few centuries later and not by the said persecuted Christian sects but by powers and bishops set up under Roman authority after Christianity had become the State Religion of Rome courtesy of Constantine the Great.

DeepSight:
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The thing is also that there were hundreds of such writings, also the councils where these things were decided were a few centuries later and not by the said persecuted Christian sects but by powers and bishops set up under Roman authority after Christianity had become the State Religion of Rome courtesy of Constantine the Great.

My brother, all what the council compiled is the Roman Catholic Bible.

And a few hundred years after the writings of a book is not enough to loose the sense of its authorship.

The Roman Catholic Church selected their books but the real Christians had theirs. The Eastern Orthodox Church for example was not part of what the Roman Catholics cooked. The Council of Nicea itself selected the New Testament books with rules. Only books written by the Apostles or their disciples were canonized (And they had knowledge of the books that were and were not in this category). Every other book was contemned.

Right from the days of the first writings of the new testaments, the writers of each book were known among the Christians. It wasn't hard for the council to decide what to be canonized and what shouldn't be.

[quote author=FxMasterz post=138029327]Would you please narrate it fully?

He was in Egypt as a Baby and was returned to Israel after about 3 years. How does that give you salvation?

Where can we find this 3years? If it is related to one unclear Prophecy from the OT i know it will be found in the Synoptic Gospels.

All those years, He was in His Father's shop learning carpentry. He didn't nothing significant worthy of records other than being obedient to His parents. Again, how does that give you salvation?

There's nothing to learn from his interactions with the people for all those years? Its okay o!

Or, do you feel like feeling up those insignificant years with stories from the gospel of Thomas found in the Quran?

I don't know any Gospel of Thomas. Is Gospel of Thomas available in Arabia as at the time of the Prophet? You don't even need evidence to tell lies! It comes freely!

Antichristian2:
[/quote]Where can we find this 3years? If it is related to one unclear Prophecy from the OT i know it will be found in the Synoptic Gospels.

Herod killed babies 3 years and younger just to apprehend Baby Jesus. Get it? All that while, Jesus was in Egypt.

There's nothing to learn from his interactions with the people for all those years? cool Its okay o!

What do you want to learn more about from what is already recorded. We have all we need to get the salvation He brought. The Bible is not a book of mere stories. It is a book of the stories of man's fall, man's degradation, God's plan of salvation and God's execution of that plan.

Jesus' stories that were necessary: God promised salvation true a Son that'll be born of a virgin. The virgin appeared during the days of Herod. The Son was born. Satan attempted to stop Him. God protects His vessel of Salvation. He grew up a holistic child. Demonstrated He was not a mere man. Gave His life on the cross to fulfil the promise of salvation that God had made.

What else would you like to know?

I don't know any Gospel of Thomas. Is Gospel of Thomas available in Arabia as at the time of the Prophet? You don't even need evidence to tell lies! It comes freely!

Hey, you must be ignorant. Many Christians and Jews surrounded Mohammed in his days. The Gospel of Thomas was in circulation among some Christians. One of Mohammed's cousins even got converted into Christianity from Islam during the days of Mohammed himself. Mohammed had access to Christian books. The Gospel of Thomas included.

FxMasterz:
Where can we find this 3years? If it is related to one unclear Prophecy from the OT i know it will be found in the Synoptic Gospels.
Herod killed babies 3 years and younger just to apprehend Baby Jesus. Get it? All that while, Jesus was in Egypt.

Was there any external record of Herod killing such large number of babies? No, there's no independent historical evidence that King Herod ordered the Massacre of the Innocents (killing babies in Bethlehem to find Jesus); the story appears only in the Gospel of Matthew and is considered by most scholars to be theological folklore, possibly inspired by other tales of tyrannical rulers and Herod's known cruelty, but not historically verified by figures like Josephus.

What do you want to learn more about from what is already recorded. We have all we need to get the salvation He brought. The Bible is not a book of mere stories. It is a book of the stories of man's fall, man's degradation, God's plan of salvation and God's execution of that plan.

Jesus' stories that were necessary: God promised salvation true a Son that'll be born of a virgin. The virgin appeared during the days of Herod. The Son was born. Satan attempted to stop Him. God protects His vessel of Salvation. He grew up a holistic child. Demonstrated He was not a mere man. Gave His life on the cross to fulfil the promise of salvation that God had made.

What else would you like to know?

We ought to know what he did as a man. Or is he not a man? Not a script written by unknown authors! You see someone possing as Jesus's disciple Matthew writting about Jesus going to Egypt to fit into a narration from the old testament. Luke, Mark and John were not aware of Jesus's going to Egypt! No be juju be that?

Hey, you must be ignorant. Many Christians and Jews surrounded Mohammed in his days. The Gospel of Thomas was in circulation among some Christians. One of Mohammed's cousins even got converted into Christianity from Islam during the days of Mohammed himself. Mohammed had access to Christian books. The Gospel of Thomas included.

Where is the evidence for this your lie? Was there a time Christians and Jews were using the Gospel of Thomas as a General scripture? Was the Gospel of Thomas translated to Arabic? If yes, when was it first translated to Arabic? Muhammad is unlettered and can not read! You said he had access to Christian Books! What books? Who were their authors? Name the Books?

Seems your lies has reached another level!

Antichristian2:
Was there any external record of Herod killing such large number of babies? No, there's no independent historical evidence that King Herod ordered the Massacre of the Innocents (killing babies in Bethlehem to find Jesus); the story appears only in the Gospel of Matthew and is considered by most scholars to be theological folklore, possibly inspired by other tales of tyrannical rulers and Herod's known cruelty, but not historically verified by figures like Josephus.

We ought to know what he did as a man. Or is he not a man? Not a script written by unknown authors! You see someone possing as Jesus's disciple Matthew writting about Jesus going to Egypt to fit into a narration from the old testament. Luke, Mark and John were not aware of Jesus's going to Egypt! No be juju be that?

Where is the evidence for this your lie? Was there a time Christians and Jews were using the Gospel of Thomas as a General scripture? Was the Gospel of Thomas translated to Arabic? If yes, when was it first translated to Arabic? Muhammad is unlettered and can not read! You said he had access to Christian Books! What books? Who were their authors? Name the Books?

Seems your lies has reached another level!

For Herod's massacre, read from here: https://biblearchaeology.org/research/new-testament-era/2411-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-historical-fact-or-legendary-fiction.

Then, ask yourself why Herod is known as Herod the Wicked, the Villain.

What He did as a man is recorded in the Bible. If you want to know any more, start relating with Him.

On the book of Thomas. Just go and compare that book with the stories about Jesus in your Quran. Mohammed wasn't inspired.

FxMasterz:
For Herod's massacre, read from here: https://biblearchaeology.org/research/new-testament-era/2411-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-historical-fact-or-legendary-fiction.

Then, ask yourself why Herod is known as Herod the Wicked, the Villain.

What He did as a man is recorded in the Bible. If you want to know any more, start relating with Him.

On the book of Thomas. Just go and compare that book with the stories about Jesus in your Quran. Mohammed wasn't inspired.

Did you even examine the link you posted above? It even confirms my position. There is no historical evidence Herod killed babies as written in Matthew.

Historical Evidence and Secular Records
Lack of Secular Attestation: There are no contemporary secular historical records or archaeological evidence outside the Bible that directly confirm the massacre. Major historians of the era, such as Josephus, who extensively documented Herod's reign and atrocities, do not mention this specific event.

Plausibility of the Event: Despite the absence of direct evidence, scholars acknowledge that Herod was known for extreme measures, including the execution of his own family members, to secure his power. Thus, the event is not implausible given Herod's character and political paranoia.

Analysis from your link(https://biblearchaeology.org/research/new-testament-era/2411-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-historical-fact-or-legendary-fiction) provides a nuanced view:

It states the massacre is unattested in secular records but argues the event fits the historical profile of Herod's reign.
The article discusses the possibility that the story may have been influenced by earlier Jewish narratives, such as the Midrash about Pharaoh's killing of Hebrew male infants, suggesting a literary or theological motif rather than a strictly historical report.

It also highlights the difficulty in verifying such an event due to the small size of Bethlehem and the limited historical documentation of minor local events in that period.

Scholarly Perspectives
Some scholars consider the story a legendary or theological construct designed to emphasize Jesus' significance and the threat he posed to earthly powers.

Others argue it could be a historical kernel wrapped in theological narrative, reflecting a real but undocumented atrocity.

Summary
No direct historical proof exists outside the Gospel of Matthew to confirm Herod's massacre of Bethlehem's infants.
The event is consistent with Herod's known ruthlessness, making it plausible but not verifiable.

The narrative may serve a theological and literary purpose, echoing earlier Jewish stories of infant massacres.

The Bible Archaeology article concludes the event remains historically unconfirmed but plausible, emphasizing the lack of secular evidence and the possibility of legendary embellishment.

Kindly digest any article before promoting it next time. Holy spirit won't help you read! You have to do it yourself!

Comparing the Gospel of Thomas and the Quran

The Gospel of Thomas and the Quran have fundamentally different purposes and theological frameworks.

The Gospel of Thomas contains esoteric sayings, some of which are cryptic or mystical, often interpreted in Gnostic terms.

The Quran’s depiction of Jesus is consistent with Islamic monotheism and prophetic tradition.

The two texts do not share a common narrative style or theological outlook; thus, direct comparison is methodologically flawed.

Historical, linguistic, theological, and spiritual evidence supports Muhammad’s claim of divine inspiration.

Your absurd comparison ignores the distinct contexts, genres, and aims of the texts involved. It's clear Holy spirit has failed you again as usual.

Antichristian2:
Did you even examine the link you posted above? It even confirms my position. There is no historical evidence Herod killed babies as written in Matthew.

Historical Evidence and Secular Records
Lack of Secular Attestation: There are no contemporary secular historical records or archaeological evidence outside the Bible that directly confirm the massacre. Major historians of the era, such as Josephus, who extensively documented Herod's reign and atrocities, do not mention this specific event.

Plausibility of the Event: Despite the absence of direct evidence, scholars acknowledge that Herod was known for extreme measures, including the execution of his own family members, to secure his power. Thus, the event is not implausible given Herod's character and political paranoia.

Analysis from your link(https://biblearchaeology.org/research/new-testament-era/2411-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-historical-fact-or-legendary-fiction) provides a nuanced view:

It states the massacre is unattested in secular records but argues the event fits the historical profile of Herod's reign.
The article discusses the possibility that the story may have been influenced by earlier Jewish narratives, such as the Midrash about Pharaoh's killing of Hebrew male infants, suggesting a literary or theological motif rather than a strictly historical report.

It also highlights the difficulty in verifying such an event due to the small size of Bethlehem and the limited historical documentation of minor local events in that period.

Scholarly Perspectives
Some scholars consider the story a legendary or theological construct designed to emphasize Jesus' significance and the threat he posed to earthly powers.

Others argue it could be a historical kernel wrapped in theological narrative, reflecting a real but undocumented atrocity.

Summary
No direct historical proof exists outside the Gospel of Matthew to confirm Herod's massacre of Bethlehem's infants.
The event is consistent with Herod's known ruthlessness, making it plausible but not verifiable.

The narrative may serve a theological and literary purpose, echoing earlier Jewish stories of infant massacres.

The Bible Archaeology article concludes the event remains historically unconfirmed but plausible, emphasizing the lack of secular evidence and the possibility of legendary embellishment.

Kindly digest any article before promoting it next time. Holy spirit won't help you read! You have to do it yourself!

Comparing the Gospel of Thomas and the Quran

The Gospel of Thomas and the Quran have fundamentally different purposes and theological frameworks.

The Gospel of Thomas contains esoteric sayings, some of which are cryptic or mystical, often interpreted in Gnostic terms.

The Quran’s depiction of Jesus is consistent with Islamic monotheism and prophetic tradition.

The two texts do not share a common narrative style or theological outlook; thus, direct comparison is methodologically flawed.

Historical, linguistic, theological, and spiritual evidence supports Muhammad’s claim of divine inspiration.

Your absurd comparison ignores the distinct contexts, genres, and aims of the texts involved. It's clear Holy spirit has failed you again as usual.

You wouldn't expect Herod to record such a gruesome act. Would you? Josephus omitted the event in his writings, that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Herod's killing of babies in Jerusalem was already prophesied in the Bible before the event. And like all Biblical prophesies that usually have striking fulfilments, this too was fulfilled. The link I shared with you defended the Bible's position maintaining that historical records about Herod indicates he is capable of such villainy.

You don't expect the book of Thomas to share theology with the Quran, do you? But the stories mohammed claimed were from Allah were actually in the book of Thomas. Meanwhile, all those stories were lies. They actually never happened. Jesus never made a flying bird from clay!. Mohammed was known to have copied from many sources to write his Quran, he then added his own words, and Muslims went ahead to cover up his tracts by claiming he couldn't read and write. Someone who was a rich woman's business manager cannot read and write? Dey play.

FxMasterz:
You wouldn't expect Herod to record such a gruesome act. Would you? Josephus omitted the event in his writings, that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Herod's killing of babies in Jerusalem was already prophesied in the Bible before the event. And like all Biblical prophesies that usually have striking fulfilments, this too was fulfilled. The link I shared with you defended the Bible's position maintaining that historical records about Herod indicates he is capable of such villainy.

You don't expect the book of Thomas to share theology with the Quran, do you? But the stories mohammed claimed were from Allah were actually in the book of Thomas. Meanwhile, all those stories were lies. They actually never happened. Jesus never made a flying bird from clay!. Mohammed was known to have copied from many sources to write his Quran, he then added his own words, and Muslims went ahead to cover up his tracts by claiming he couldn't read and write. Someone who was a rich woman's business manager cannot read and write? Dey play.

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A notorious plagiarist for sure.

DeepSight:
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A notorious plagiarist for sure.

Very correct bro!

I don't know why people like Antichristian cannot just see the deception. We're talking about a Mohammed who divided the moon into two. Mohammed surely thought the moon was like some tomato in the sky. So, after dividing it, he joined it together again? Wonders shall never end? These guys don't even know the level of destabilization the action would cause for the earth and for the cosmos if that was to happen.

Antichristian and his fellow Muslims should know that the moon is a body just like the earth, having landscapes, waters and hills. Just that it is not built to sustain life. It's not a tomato in the sky that can be divided into 2 by anybody.

FxMasterz:
You wouldn't expect Herod to record such a gruesome act. Would you? Josephus omitted the event in his writings, that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Herod's killing of babies in Jerusalem was already prophesied in the Bible before the event. And like all Biblical prophesies that usually have striking fulfilments, this too was fulfilled. The link I shared with you defended the Bible's position maintaining that historical records about Herod indicates he is capable of such villainy.

You just keep parroting the same think like a broken record! There was no historical records for Herod killing babies despite records available for many of his other attrocities!

You don't expect the book of Thomas to share theology with the Quran, do you? But the stories mohammed claimed were from Allah were actually in the book of Thomas. Meanwhile, all those stories were lies. They actually never happened. Jesus never made a flying bird from clay!. Mohammed was known to have copied from many sources to write his Quran, he then added his own words, and Muslims went ahead to cover up his tracts by claiming he couldn't read and write. Someone who was a rich woman's business manager cannot read and write? Dey play.

So the unlettered Muhammad copied from many sources! Type it in AI and see if it is possible to write the Qur'an by an unlettered man in Arab 1400 years ago in 23 years. And all these textual compilations were done mainly by memory! So being able to count money and do money arithmetic means he is educated/ not unlettered? So you haven't seen some elders that have such skills despite not having any formal education? Waoh! You be real low-level Gala- 3:1.

AntiChristian:
You just keep parroting the same think like a broken record! There was no historical records for Herod killing babies despite records available for many of his other attrocities!

So the unlettered Muhammad copied from many sources! Type it in AI and see if it is possible to write the Qur'an by an unlettered man in Arab 1400 years ago in 23 years. And all these textual compilations were done mainly by memory! So being able to count money and do money arithmetic means he is educated/ not unlettered? So you haven't seen some elders that have such skills despite not having any formal education? Waoh! You be real low-level Gala- 3:1.

Mohammed was actually lettered. That 'unlettered' narrative was a lie. Being able to count money is one thing, bring employee by a business manager is another. Mohammed was a lettered business manager.

FxMasterz:
Mohammed was actually lettered. That 'unlettered' narrative was a lie. Being able to count money is one thing, bring employee by a business manager is another. Mohammed was a lettered business manager.

Managing business in a caravan means a person is literate? Now your IQ is clear. Probably you think he is preparing balance sheet and profit and loss account back then!

Na so you guys dey think!

FxMasterz:
You wouldn't expect Herod to record such a gruesome act. Would you? Josephus omitted the event in his writings, that doesn't mean they didn't happen. Herod's killing of babies in Jerusalem was already prophesied in the Bible before the event. And like all Biblical prophesies that usually have striking fulfilments, this too was fulfilled. The link I shared with you defended the Bible's position maintaining that historical records about Herod indicates he is capable of such villainy.

Other gruesome acts of Herod were recorded. So why was this not recorded? Josephus didn't omit it. It never happened! Not all biblical prophecies were fulfilled. I know the created "Matthew" was trying so hard to make Jesus fulfil certian prophecy but it is clear it never happened historically. You can argue till tomorrow! There's no record of any baby killings historically at the time of Jesus birth and infancy!

You don't expect the book of Thomas to share theology with the Quran, do you? But the stories mohammed claimed were from Allah were actually in the book of Thomas. Meanwhile, all those stories were lies. They actually never happened. Jesus never made a flying bird from clay!. Mohammed was known to have copied from many sources to write his Quran, he then added his own words, and Muslims went ahead to cover up his tracts by claiming he couldn't read and write. Someone who was a rich woman's business manager cannot read and write? Dey play.

You can't even differentiate between the Gospel of Thomas and the Infancy Gospel of Thomas! I think i am right to call you a typical Galatians 3:1. You don't even know what you are saying and you'll write a long prose upon error!

The Gospel of Thomas has no miracles but are sayings ascribed to Jesus! Your actual miracles claim are present in infancy Gospel of Thomas which describes Jesus's childhood and filled the gaps left behind by the Bible. It was written around the 2nd Century CE.

Let's see the differences between the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and the Qur'an!

1. Miraculous Birth
Qur'an:
-Jesus is born miraculously to the Virgin Mary (Maryam) without a father by the command of God.
-The Qur'an highlights this as a sign of God's power and Jesus' special status.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
-Does not focus on the birth narrative.
-The text assumes Jesus' divine nature and focuses on his childhood miracles.

2. Nature and Types of Miracles
Qur'an
-Jesus performs miracles by God's permission, including:
-Speaking as a newborn to defend Mary.
-Healing the blind and lepers.
-Raising the dead.
-Creating a bird from clay and breathing life into it.
**These miracles serve as signs to confirm his prophethood and God's power.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas
Focuses on miraculous acts performed by Jesus as a child, such as:
-Forming birds from clay and bringing them to life.
-Multiplying grain to feed others.
-Resurrecting playmates.
-Controlling natural elements and performing supernatural feats.
-Some miracles show a childlike, sometimes temperamental Jesus, with stories of cursing those who offend him.

3. Theological Emphasis
Qur'an:
-Emphasizes Jesus as a prophet and servant of God, not divine himself.
-Miracles are signs of God's power and Jesus' mission to guide people to monotheism.
-Jesus is sinless and humble.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
-Emphasizes Jesus' divine power manifesting even in childhood.
-The miracles sometimes portray Jesus with a more human, even capricious, character.
**The text is more legendary and less theologically restrained.

4. Purpose of Miracles
Qur'an:
-Miracles authenticate Jesus' prophethood and call people to worship one God.
-They demonstrate God's authority and mercy.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
-Miracles illustrate Jesus' supernatural nature and divine origin.
-They fill narrative gaps about Jesus' early life with legendary stories.

So where exactly did your Holy Spirit see Muhammad copying from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas?

Antichristian2:
Other gruesome acts of Herod were recorded. So why was this not recorded? Josephus didn't omit it. It never happened! Not all biblical prophecies were fulfilled. I know the created "Matthew" was trying so hard to make Jesus fulfil certian prophecy but it is clear it never happened historically. You can argue till tomorrow! There's no record of any baby killings historically at the time of Jesus birth and infancy!

You can't even differentiate between the Gospel of Thomas and the Infancy Gospel of Thomas! I think i am right to call you a typical Galatians 3:1. You don't even know what you are saying and you'll write a long prose upon error!

The Gospel of Thomas has no miracles but are sayings ascribed to Jesus! Your actual miracles claim are present in infancy Gospel of Thomas which describes Jesus's childhood and filled the gaps left behind by the Bible. It was written around the 2nd Century CE.

Let's see the differences between the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and the Qur'an!

1. Miraculous Birth
Qur'an:
-Jesus is born miraculously to the Virgin Mary (Maryam) without a father by the command of God.
-The Qur'an highlights this as a sign of God's power and Jesus' special status.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
-Does not focus on the birth narrative.
-The text assumes Jesus' divine nature and focuses on his childhood miracles.

2. Nature and Types of Miracles
Qur'an
-Jesus performs miracles by God's permission, including:
-Speaking as a newborn to defend Mary.
-Healing the blind and lepers.
-Raising the dead.
-Creating a bird from clay and breathing life into it.
**These miracles serve as signs to confirm his prophethood and God's power.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas
Focuses on miraculous acts performed by Jesus as a child, such as:
-Forming birds from clay and bringing them to life.
-Multiplying grain to feed others.
-Resurrecting playmates.
-Controlling natural elements and performing supernatural feats.
-Some miracles show a childlike, sometimes temperamental Jesus, with stories of cursing those who offend him.

3. Theological Emphasis
Qur'an:
-Emphasizes Jesus as a prophet and servant of God, not divine himself.
-Miracles are signs of God's power and Jesus' mission to guide people to monotheism.
-Jesus is sinless and humble.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
-Emphasizes Jesus' divine power manifesting even in childhood.
-The miracles sometimes portray Jesus with a more human, even capricious, character.
**The text is more legendary and less theologically restrained.

4. Purpose of Miracles
Qur'an:
-Miracles authenticate Jesus' prophethood and call people to worship one God.
-They demonstrate God's authority and mercy.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
-Miracles illustrate Jesus' supernatural nature and divine origin.
-They fill narrative gaps about Jesus' early life with legendary stories.

So where exactly did your Holy Spirit see Muhammad copying from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas?

I really pity you my friend. Is this hoe you want to continue defending the deception called Islam? Mohammed copied lies from books, added his own stories and made everything into a Quran. Who doesn't know this? Do you think it was only from the book of Thomas he copied from? Fake stories o. You're even saying he covered the gaps that were left in the Bible.

Not all.of the Bible's prophecies were fulfilled? At least you admit that some have been fulfilled, and the ones yet fulfilled are still future. Josephus didn't write his history for the Jews or Christians. He can arguably omit events if they didn't come to his memory at the time of writing. The writers of the Bible wrote for the times they lived in. The stories they narrate ate read by those who were alive at the time of the events. You cannot publish a book of events in Nigeria today and start writing things that didn't happen. Can you? You'll be called out. Infact Mathew stood the risk of being arrested for publishing a false narrative about Herod. Think my friend.

AntiChristian:
Managing business in a caravan means a person is literate? Now your IQ is clear. Probably you think he is preparing balance sheet and profit and loss account back then!

Na so you guys dey think!

My dear, balance sheets are not the things a business manager does. Leave that for the accountant.

But, he'll take inventories dear. He'll record events, supplies and important dealings to be reported to the business owner. He'll read all correspondence and make important notes. Tell me who'll give his business to someone who can't do all these when there are thousands of others who can.

FxMasterz:
My dear, balance sheets are not the things a business manager does. Leave that for the accountant.

But, he'll take inventories dear. He'll record events, supplies and important dealings to be reported to the business owner. He'll read all correspondence and make important notes. Tell me who'll give his business to someone who can't do all these when there are thousands of others who can.

What inventories? It was said that people do keep items with him and he do return them as they gave it to him! This certainly doesn't need education at all. He could even have people doing it for him. And we can even say he had a sophisticated memory that he could remember all his transactions! If he is lettered according to you then show us which school he attended and who were his teachers?

AntiChristian:
What inventories? It was said that people do keep items with him and he do return them as they gave it to him! This certainly doesn't need education at all. He could even have people doing it for him. And we can even say he had a sophisticated memory that he could remember all his transactions! If he is lettered according to you then show us which school he attended and who were his teachers?

Lol. Hear yourself out. You're comparing business accountability with neighborhood safekeeping. Are they the sane thing? Who would appoint a business manager that cannot read and write when there are several others who can? You're even asking me what Inventory? Is this how you want to keep defending the indefensible?

FxMasterz:
Lol. Hear yourself out. You're comparing business accountability with neighborhood safekeeping. Are they the sane thing? Who would appoint a business manager that cannot read and write when there are several others who can? You're even asking me what Inventory? Is this how you want to keep defending the indefensible?

It clear you have no verifiable evidence. My evidence is in the memorization of the Qur'an. Muslims right from the time of the Prophet have been learning it by heart! There was no literature review on any kind of manuscripts like your Bible. This is clear. Even your claim about infantile gospel of Thomas fell through!

Ye japoro!

FxMasterz:
I really pity you my friend. Is this hoe you want to continue defending the deception called Islam? Mohammed copied lies from books, added his own stories and made everything into a Quran. Who doesn't know this? Do you think it was only from the book of Thomas he copied from? Fake stories o. You're even saying he covered the gaps that were left in the Bible.

Not all.of the Bible's prophecies were fulfilled? At least you admit that some have been fulfilled, and the ones yet fulfilled are still future. Josephus didn't write his history for the Jews or Christians. He can arguably omit events if they didn't come to his memory at the time of writing. The writers of the Bible wrote for the times they lived in. The stories they narrate ate read by those who were alive at the time of the events. You cannot publish a book of events in Nigeria today and start writing things that didn't happen. Can you? You'll be called out. Infact Mathew stood the risk of being arrested for publishing a false narrative about Herod. Think my friend.

You first need to acknowledge you failed woefully mixing up The gospel of Thomas with infantile gospel of Thomas.

I know you won't accept the truth that you erred and you have no special holy spirit guidance in you!

What books did he copy? How was the literature review done with all he accomplished within 23 years?

He was not even know to have written anything!

Anyways! Telling lies is a trait!

Antichristian2:
You first need to acknowledge you failed woefully mixing up The gospel of Thomas with infantile gospel of Thomas.

I know you won't accept the truth that you erred and you have no special holy spirit guidance in you!

What books did he copy? How was the literature review done with all he accomplished within 23 years?

He was not even know to have written anything!

Anyways! Telling lies is a trait!

Go and ask ChatGpt. Even all AIs attest to the fact that Mohammed copied. Except you're brainwashed, you wouldn't be asking unnecessary questions.

AntiChristian:
It clear you have no verifiable evidence. My evidence is in the memorization of the Qur'an. Muslims right from the time of the Prophet have been learning it by heart! There was no literature review on any kind of manuscripts like your Bible. This is clear. Even your claim about infantile gospel of Thomas fell through!

Ye japoro!

I pity you. Keep defending lies. Obvious lies o.

Anyone can memorize anything. There were 'memorizers' before Mohammed, and 'memorizers' would not cease after him. How's memorization an evidence to anything? Even his contemporaries accused him of plagiarism.

Did Mohammed also divide the moon true true?

Lol.

FxMasterz:
I pity you. Keep defending lies. Obvious lies o.

You call it a lie yet you have no evidence at all! The liar is clear!

Anyone can memorize anything. There were 'memorizers' before Mohammed, and 'memorizers' would not cease after him. How's memorization an evidence to anything?

Show us just one person who has memorised the Bible wholly in its original language?

Did Mohammed also divide the moon true true?

Lol.

Of course he did as it is clear Moses spilted the sea!