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What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 10:14pm On Jun 26
From 2 Thessalonians 2 (NKJV):

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Questions:
1) If there is a lawless one, doesn't there have to be a Law ?
2) If the lawless one is also referred to as the man of sin, doesn't that mean sin equates with being lawless ?
3) Using Bible Scripture only, what is the definition of "sin"... and be exact please.

Thank you.

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by BeeBeeOoh(m): 10:18pm On Jun 26
Paul said something 2000-years ago and you are asking us what he meant 2000-years after??




Ogbeni! No just provoke us

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by doggedfighter(f): 10:32pm On Jun 26
BeeBeeOoh:
Paul said something 2000-years ago and you are asking us what he meant 2000-years after??




Ogbeni! No just provoke us
This comment cracked me up.

I can't stop laughing here.

Hahahahahahaha.

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by BeeBeeOoh(m): 10:38pm On Jun 26
doggedfighter:

This comment cracked me up.

I can't stop laughing here.

Hahahahahahaha.
angry


Imagine putting us in a tight corner like this?Silas wey be Paul's manche back then no fit answer this kind question

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Nobody: 10:52pm On Jun 26
It means make we the face our front for this country,

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by MightySparrow: 10:57pm On Jun 26
BeeBeeOoh:
angry


Imagine putting us in a tight corner like this?Silas wey be Paul's manche back then no fit answer this kind question

Maximus'side has an answer, he is JW.


Copy him
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:09pm On Jun 26
BeeBeeOoh:
Paul said something 2000-years ago and you are asking us what he meant 2000-years after?? Ogbeni! No just provoke us

I believe this post is targeted against Anti-Commandment people
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by AntiChristian: 12:30am On Jun 27
Another Christian denomination:

Commandments people and

Anti-commandment people!
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 5:22am On Jun 27
I modified the 3rd question to say "Using Bible Scripture only".
I wanted to be clear, that's all.
Thank you.
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:55am On Jun 27
awitness41:
I modified the 3rd question to say "Using Bible Scripture only".
I wanted to be clear, that's all.
Thank you.

I believe you know that in the Bible the definition of sin is Off-Fence, (offence) Threatened-Pass (Tresspass), Transit Agression (Transgression).

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Karlovych: 6:12am On Jun 27
BeeBeeOoh:
Paul said something 2000-years ago and you are asking us what he meant 2000-years after??




Ogbeni! No just provoke us
grin grin grin They should ask Pastor Paul Adefarasin to explain, the mantle has been handed over to him

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by oracle009(m): 6:27am On Jun 27
Dtruthspeaker:


I believe you know that in the Bible the definition of sin is Off-Fence, (offence) Threatened-Pass (Tresspass), Transit Agression (Transgression).

Ha! Where you get all these your etymology nitori Ọlọ́run? Off-Fence ko, off-road ni grin grin

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 6:28am On Jun 27
Dtruthspeaker:

I believe you know that in the Bible the definition of sin is Off-Fence, (offence) Threatened-Pass (Tresspass), Transit Agression (Transgression).
My friend DT, please find a passage in the Bible that actually defines what sin is exactly, such as "sin is ...".
Then we will know exactly what the Bible says sin is.
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:33am On Jun 27
awitness41:

My friend DT, please find a passage in the Bible that actually defines what sin is exactly, such as "sin is ...".
Then we will know exactly what the Bible says sin is.

The Bible rarely specifically defines anything. No Law is.., Court is... and Judgement is...
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:36am On Jun 27
oracle009:


Ha! Where you get all these your etymology nitori Ọlọ́run? Off-Fence ko, off-road ni grin grin

grin Extremely Ancient Letters, Poems, Novels, Books, the Bible!

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 6:43am On Jun 27
Dtruthspeaker:


The Bible rarely specifically defines anything. No Law is.., Court is... and Judgement is...
Do you have Bible search feature on your computing device?
There is definitely a Bible definition of sin starting with "sin is..."
C'mon DT. You can do it !
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:49am On Jun 27
awitness41:

Do you have Bible search feature on your computing device?
There is definitely a Bible definition of sin starting with "sin is..."
C'mon DT. You can do it !

I use the hard copy Bible, so no search feature.
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 6:52am On Jun 27
Dtruthspeaker:


I use the hard copy Bible, so no search feature.
So how do you type into this post ?
No matter, look at 1 John 3.
What version of the Bible do you use ?

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:13am On Jun 27
awitness41:

So how do you type into this post ?
No matter, look at 1 John 3.
What version of the Bible do you use ?

I got this covered. cheesy

for sin is the transgression of the law.

I did say "Transit Aggression (Transgression)

Off-Fence, (offence) - Matthew 18:6

Threatened-Pass (Tresspass) - Matthew 6:14 cheesy

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 7:43am On Jun 27
Dtruthspeaker:


I got this covered. cheesy

for sin is the transgression of the law.

I did say "Transit Agrression (Transgression)

Off-Fence, (offence) - Matthew 18:6

Threatened-Pass (Tresspass) - Matthew 6:14 cheesy

Yes, excellent DT !

Sin is the transgression of the Law.

And also, although not starting with "sin is...", 1 John 5:17 (NKJV) says "All unrighteousness is sin."
And there is one more definition of sin in James 4:17 (NKJV): "Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin."
If we put these together, keeping all Truth, we see that sin is the transgression of the Law, a Law which defines "all righteousness" (to which James also agrees... not doing that which we know is righteous).

That answers question #3 above, thank you.

Questions 1 and 2 are surely connected somehow...

I have to go now, but in the meantime I remember seeing you were now reading the Bible, with the intention of reading it all the way through.
May I humbly make a suggestion... or maybe it's actually a reminder of support in that endeavor ?
If one starts with the Gospels of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and, John, and reads them on endless reel for life (at least 3 chapters a week, or more), it is very helpful, because Jesus is the one who gives us proper perspective on how to discern the rest of the Bible.
For example, many false prophets preach a "mangled version" of Paul such that they have Paul disagreeing with Jesus.
The Real Paul doesn't disagree with Jesus, but their "mangled version" does.
So if we read something that seems to disagrees with Jesus, Who is right ?
The answer is obvious... Jesus is !
That's how Jesus gives us help in discerning the rest of the Bible... because as God's Son, He's never wrong !
And another reminder for encouragement: remember that one must become like a little child in Faith to enter the Kingdom of God.
Don't believe people have to the smartest in the class, or to somehow be "successful" in whatever worldly endeavor they have (like a job).
If we carry any pride about our sinful selves, it impedes our growth in the Word of God. We must forsake all for Jesus, even our "self".
You know me, I could go on, but I've got to go for now.
Thanks for your support in this post.

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:15am On Jun 27
awitness41:


Yes, excellent DT !

Sin is the transgression of the Law.

That answers question #3 above, thank you.
Questions 1 and 2 are surely connected somehow...

I have to go now, but in the meantime I remember saying you were now reading the Bible, with the intention of reading it all the way through.
May I humbly make a suggestion... or maybe it's actually a reminder of support in that endeavor ?
If one starts with the Gospels of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and, John, and reads them on endless reel for life (at least 3 chapters a week, or more),

shocked 3 chapters, at a stretch, in a week?

In my.respectful opinion that is not a good way to read.

I think it best to read, then verify that, that specific point read, is True in Natural Living and then become an expert In Doing what you have just read.

That is how I am reading the Bible and (any text) most especially as there are many what we call "little details" in there which I sometimes missed and I once suffered the consequences for not paying good attention to details.

So, now I am trying my best to ensure that I do not miss any important thing which the Bible has already fore-spoken.

So I started last year and I am still in Exodus 20. (And truth fully, I can not remember, at my own will, much of the matters contained in Genesis. But at least, I am certain, I have seen them and immediately I see them, remembrance occurs!)

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by awitness41(m): 8:28am On Jun 27
Dtruthspeaker:


shocked 3 chapters, at a stretch, in a week?

In my.respectful opinion that is not a good way to read.

I think it best to read, then verify that, that specific point read, is True in Natural Living and then become an expert In Doing what you have just read.

That is how I am reading the Bible and (any text) most especially as there are many what we call "little details" in there which I sometimes missed and I once suffered the consequences for not paying good attention to details.

So, now I am trying my best to ensure that I do not miss any important thing which the Bible has already fore-spoken.

So I started last year and I am still in Exodus 20. (And truth fully, I can not remember, at my own will, much of the matters contained in Genesis. But at least, I am certain, I have seen them matters and immediately I see them, remembrance occurs!)

You are certainly able to do as you wish! smiley
Thanks again for your support in this post!
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by DropsMic(m): 8:42am On Jun 27
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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by TheVoice21(m): 8:42am On Jun 27
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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by tillaman(m): 8:43am On Jun 27
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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by falseprophet: 8:48am On Jun 27
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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by judedwriter(m): 8:48am On Jun 27
The man of sin refers to an ex-president, a black man whose name starts with 'B', surname starts WITH 'O' and middle name stars with 'H'.

If you know, you know.

He will bring about lawlessness as never seen before in human history.

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by stunnert(m): 8:52am On Jun 27
Christian and Bible Scholars over to you, make una answer the question so that others can learn from your knowledge.

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by Nikkganc08(m): 8:53am On Jun 27
Always read ur bibles properly before commenting or simply Stay away.

When Paul Referred To The "Lawless One" as "Man Of Sin", he was simply trying to buttress on the fact that the sin of the man is not big enough to be passed into law.
Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by malvisguy212: 9:00am On Jun 27
yes. there is law ,but The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false
signs and wonders. First I would like to point out that we are truly living in a lawless time.the purpose of the law is to get a clear image of sin and its consequence thus we have the meaning of sin " Sin is the transgression of the law....specifically the law that has the commandment .

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Re: What Did Paul Mean When He Referred To The "Lawless One" Also As "Man Of Sin"? by clericuzzio(m): 9:01am On Jun 27
BeeBeeOoh:
Paul said something 2000-years ago and you are asking us what he meant 2000-years after??




Ogbeni! No just provoke us

My brother the thing weak me sef. Paul don talk him own, is he now God that we should equate his words as absolute

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