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| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 5:53pm On Jan 06 |
Kukutente23:Christianity developed as a human-constructed system after the death of Jesus. When the Roman Empire later adopted it, many elements of existing pagan traditions were absorbed into the faith. Core doctrines were shaped by church leaders during councils, where theological positions were debated and decided by majority agreement, and the views that prevailed were formalized as official Christian beliefs. All the things you do today as Christians would be strange to jesus |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by jehoha696(m): 5:55pm On Jan 06 |
FreeIgboho:. Did you hear him say so,or naw media dey carry the fuzz,did you listen nor watch any interview where he said so?.... Anyway the team naw "soldier go,soldier come...." |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by 12inchess: 6:58pm On Jan 06 |
2020 was COVID. Not one of these so called Prophets or Seers saw it or anything close to it. That was the last time I took any of them serious. ![]() |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by FreeIgboho: 7:02pm On Jan 06 |
jehoha696:The point is that the same Lookman that this Elijah guy said shouldn't be included in the team (which makes no sense) is the reason for all this! |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 8:14pm On Jan 06 |
NOETHNICITY:Which religion does not have elements of paganism in it? All religions have their doctrines developed by their leaders What do Christians do today that will be strange to Jesus |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jan 06 |
judewrites:Who told you about the plane story? |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:15pm On Jan 06 |
Kukutente23:Jesus never celebrated 25th December as his birthday Jesus never named any religion Christianity Jesus never mentioned the word ‘trinity’. Jesus never said ‘I’m fully God and fully man’. Jesus never said humans inherited the original sin Jesus never hinged salvation on death, rather he emphasized repentance and belief in one God Jesus never set up clergy hierarchy (pope, bishop) Jesus never encouraged the set up of your today church building and structure Jesus does not know anything about the images of him you erect Jesus never ate pork Jesus warned against not following the laws Etc Let me just stop here for now |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 10:32pm On Jan 06 |
NOETHNICITY:You didn't answer the first question though All you listed are practices that have roots in the Bible which is the word of God so I don't know why you think because you assumed Jesus never did them means they are pagan. |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:50pm On Jan 06 |
Kukutente23:Jesus ate pork in the Bible? Jesus built a church in the Bible? Jesus mentioned the word trinity? Did Jesus say there are 3 Gods To answer your first question, Islam doesn’t have elements of paganism |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by judewrites: 2:33am On Jan 07 |
FaAbData:Go to dove media and hear from the GO himself. |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 6:36am On Jan 07 |
NOETHNICITY:Which part of the bible forbids eating of pork Are you by any chance saying Christians are only allowed to eat what Jesus ate? Which religion is there that only eats what their leader ate? How do you know that Jesus never ate pork when there were people who reared pork for a living then Jesus did not build a church but he used churches or are you saying Christians are only allowed to build what Jesus built Jesus mentioned Trinity. Trinity is a word that defines what Jesus already explained about his relationship with God and the holy spirit Christianity never said there are 3 Gods either I see you're a Muslim as I suspected. Islam is about the most deficient religion in the world but you guys are quick to judge and condemn others most times out of ignorance. If the weakness of your Islam is brought to the fore now you'll run away. Imagine claiming that Islam doesn't have elements of paganism. What was the Kaaba and black stone used for before Muhammad? |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:06am On Jan 07 |
Kukutente23:Jesus observed the law which forbids eating pork. Jesus commands his followers to observe the laws as well. How are you a follower of Jesus when you do the opposite of what he did? Jesus mentioned trinity? Can you please provide clear reference where stated that trinity? If Jesus is god, the father is god, and the HS is also god, how many do you count? Why is it that when it comes to Christianity clearly defined counting methods does not apply. You say Jesus is the son of god. I say the word sonship can only be used in 3 different situations. 1, if you biologically begets a male child. 2, if you adopt a males child 3, in the form of endearment (people who are not father called me their son to show affection) Now what category does Jesus fall into We know that the Bible describes several prophets as sons of God, and those sonship are clearly defined as righteous created beings who serve God. You talked about Islam as being deficient, I thought so too before I became Muslim. What you need is to know more it before it before you can criticize it effectively or objectively. But you clearly don’t. For instance you mentioned the Kaaba. Islam did not adopt pagan rituals because they were pagan; it retained certain practices because Muslims believe they pre-dated paganism and originated with Abraham, and Islam redefined them strictly for monotheism (tawḥīd). The Kaaba predates the Arabs. |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Nobody: 10:07am On Jan 07 |
judewrites:Oh! He's the one that said it? He said his own story? But you can't be a judge in your own case. |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by judewrites: 10:16am On Jan 07 |
FaAbData:Was I ever a judge? |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Nobody: 10:30am On Jan 07 |
judewrites:You don't get that statement. It's like an idiomatic expression. It means someone cannot be telling an issue between himself and someone and same time be passing conclusion to favour himself. The pastor is stylishly throwing jabs at another prophet but his own claims are questionable too. Like the plane incident now, he's the one telling us the story, you weren't there o wasn't there, no witness - just story |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by dofman: 10:44am On Jan 07 |
treesun:antiisiam 😀😀 Just see how your religion is casting in the public ahaaaa |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 11:56am On Jan 07 |
NOETHNICITY:Which law is that which forbids eating pork Can you quote it? Read John 10v10 and 15v26 to see where Jesus spoke about the relationship between him, the father and the Spirit of the father You're not in a position to define how sonship can be used for Christians. Even your Islam does not meet your standards because of it were so, it means your prophet committed an abomination by marrying his adopted son's wife. I hope you won't run away on seeing this fact you brought up by yourself As for the status of Jesus, he was begotten of God which means he was created from God himself as a part of God. So the closest will be the biological one but it does not fully define it Yes we become sons of God through Jesus. There's no one who was ever called son of God in the Bible until Jesus came Muslims cannot provide any evidence that the Kaaba was used to worship Allah by Abraham. What is clear to everyone is that the Kaaba just like the pantheon in Rome was dedicated to the worship of multiple gods. I bet if Constantine had claimed that the pantheon was used by Moses and should thus now be a temple for Christianity, you wouldn't accept it but here you are expecting people to accept that the Kaaba originally belongs to Islam. Anyways, the circumambulation and kissing of the stone were also pagan practices before Islam and it is still retained. How do you explain that as well |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 1:07pm On Jan 07 |
Kukutente23:Here's Leviticus 11:7-8 (NIV): 7. "And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8. You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you." Now, I’m just wondering how you read the references (John 10:10 and John 15v26) and interpreted it as trinity. I’m still confused as to how trinity could be derived from the references you dropped When I defined sonship, I never said it was an Islamic definition of sonship. In Islam, sonship I basically understood as the biological relationship between father and the child he birthed through sexual relations with his wife/female. You said that no one was ever called the son of God in the Bible? Sorry sir, but you are wrong! In the Bible, several individuals are referred to as "son of God" or "sons of God" Adam: Luke 3:38 - Adam is called a "son of God" as he was created by God. Israel: Exodus 4:22, Hosea 11:1 - Israel is referred to as God's "firstborn son". Angels: Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 - Angels are called "sons of God" as they are created beings serving God. David was called the begotten son of God. |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by AntiisIam(m): 1:09pm On Jan 07 |
dofman:Same way your religion is casting, abi make I show you some films between your imams? |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 7:00pm On Jan 07 |
NOETHNICITY:And have you come across this part of the bible in your years of reading it? Acts 10 it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. 13And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.”You should take your time to read the references. It is clear as day and needs no interpretation except you mean the spirit that proceeds from the father is not of the father or that Jesus that said he's in the father is not of the father Jesus is the only begotten son of God not a son of God or any other qualification. Where was David called the begotten son of God? You asked recently how Jesus is God's son. Now you're pointing to references of people being referred to as God's son. Why do you have a problem with Jesus being God's son but not with the others if I may ask? In your definition are you saying Islam is wrong to not recognise adoption as a valid means of becoming son I see you've dropped the pagan topic since it's become obvious that Islam is not better in that regard. Pity |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:18pm On Jan 07 |
Kukutente23:Regarding what was declared unclean but later declared clean. The question is why was it declared unclean previously? Was it due to physical uncleanliness? If yes, when a spirit (whatever it was) declared it clean, did that declaration remove the physical uncleanliness from the animal? Also, I thought you said there is no where in Bible where pig is prohibited? Regarding David being bigotten by God below is a screenshot attached I gave you 3 possible definitions of sonship know to mankind. One is to show endearment which I believe all the people in the Bible referred to as son of God relates to! I don’t have a problem with Jesus being called son of God! Just that you are unable to tell us or define what category of sonship you mean. Also, the Quran is not wrong in abolishing the cultural practice of Arabs taking adopted sons as their biological sons. To extent that adopted sons used to bear the names of their adopted fathers. Islam bloodline is sacred and cannot be changed. As such everyone is supposed to bear the names of their biological parents. |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 10:09am On Jan 08 |
NOETHNICITY:I never said there's nowhere that pork was forbidden. I specifically asked for it as concerning Jesus but as usual with islamists, you ran to the old Testament laws which you neither keep nor assent to. The reason it was declared unclean is given in the verse you quoted. Now the question is why an animal made by God, whom he declared all good at the beginning in Genesis 1 suddenly became unclean? Can you answer that? Why did God create unclean things when he is holy and does not behold unholiness? I'll be waiting for your answer. If you had read the words of Jesus concerning what goes into a man defiling him, perhaps you might have begun to do some research on why some animals were declared clean or unclean. Read Matt 15v11-16 You did not attach any screenshot to your post so I guess it's safe to admit you don't have any proof of David being called begotten son of God I already defined the category to you. Maybe you should go back and read it. I said biological sonship is the closest because Jesus came out of God. He was not created but formed from inside God himself. It is close to biological process than any other. So why do you recognise adoption as a means of becoming sons? You can't have it both ways. If Islam says adoption is wrong, then you as a Muslim should also accept it which in effect means Muhammad was right to take Zainab. If you on the other hand see adoption as a valid means of becoming son, then it means that Muhammad committed an abominable act |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:47am On Jan 08 |
Kukutente23:God being the creator of the heavens, doesn’t he have the right to decide what and what is clean or not, and what we should consume and not? For the records, I don’t recognize adoption as an authentic means becoming a son, I only referred to it because it’s a system you people uphold. I don’t know how someone who is not my son, can become my biological son. That’s plain delusion!
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| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 2:24pm On Jan 08 |
NOETHNICITY:Well, you initially claimed that the pig was deemed unclean due to some physical attributes Now you've made it as a wish of the Almighty in which case it becomes the Almighty can also decide to make an unclean animal become clean. You find it hard to adopt a position and stay there. The pig was declared unclean even though it's hoofed like other clean animals while it does not chew the cud Adoption does not make a child you did not sire your biological son. It is simply giving all the rights to a child you did not birth as yours. That said, if you say adoption is wrong, then it is also wrong to call a man who did not birth you father out of respect of endearment as it's simply a delusion The screenshot about Psalms 2 is a prophecy about Jesus not David. Go and read the chapter |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by NOETHNICITY(m): 3:28pm On Jan 08 |
Kukutente23:Bro, I’m fatigued by this back and forth. I know I can never convince you otherwise as your mind is already programmed. You say psalm 2 is a prophecy about Jesus even though there is nothing prophetic about it. I leave you with the attached I also want you to know that I admire your respectful attitude. So very unusual for a Christian to engage without getting emotional and resorting to insults
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| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by Kukutente23: 3:36pm On Jan 08 |
NOETHNICITY:Lol AI is not in a position to tell anyone about religion That said, I don't know what you mean by saying Christians resort to insults and emotions. I can tell you that's a preserve of Muslims on this thread. One of you even has a moniker dedicated to antagonising Christians called anti Christian |
| Re: Adeboye Reacts To Primate Ayodele’s AFCON Prophecy On Ademola Lookman by BarrElChapo(m): 11:20am On Jan 20 |
SixSeven:So one will not be wrong to say he is a charlatan and conman |
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