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raumdeuter:
Has Fubara ever delivered any election in his life? Why gamble on a crucial election n someone who hasn't proven anything. Wike does not need FG support to deliver Rivers to APC, he has done it before. So FG can focus on other states that need it

Did Wike not become a Governor before he started his deliverance? Was Fubara suppose to deliver Rivers election from his office as Accountant General of the State? This same Fubara took the fight to Wike and was even winning until Tinubu intervened. Fubara has showed that he can play it ruff like Wike, so Tinubu should focus on Delta and other South South/South East State...

izzou:
Asides delivering only Rivers for Tinubu, which is not going to be more than 100k votes difference, what is major about his brokering?

All SS states are APC
3 SE states are APC

So with all these history you typed painstakingly, abeg what more can Wike give apart from Rivers?



Major power broker indeed!

I concur........... sometimes I wonder how politicians think.
I used to think its smart to conserve energy and strike when the Iron is hot.
The failure of PDP and LP to organise themselves has destroyed any hope of genuine opposition in the forthcoming elections.

Why would these guys be willing to bicker and splash funds for a closed and determined election.
Can they not see the hand writing on the wall or maybe these distractions are from their sycophants after all "man must wack"....

Tochex101:
I concur........... sometimes I wonder how politicians think.
I used to think its smart to conserve energy and strike when the Iron is hot.
The failure of PDP and LP to organise themselves has destroyed any hope of genuine opposition in the forthcoming elections.

Why would these guys be willing to bicker and splash funds for a closed and determined election.
Can they not see the hand writing on the wall or maybe these distractions are from their sycophants after all "man must wack"....

Na money nau

As they stayed far away from the piggy bank, they began to decamp one by one.

Nigeria has no opposition currently. Might look like victory for the supporters of APC, but when the party begins make laws that will affect everybody, we will wish for one.

Na siddon look mode I dey now.

izzou:
Asides delivering only Rivers for Tinubu, which is not going to be more than 100k votes difference, what is major about his brokering?

All SS states are APC
3 SE states are APC

So with all these history you typed painstakingly, abeg what more can Wike give apart from Rivers?



Major power broker indeed!

States being APC is not enough. Imo and Ebonyi were APC last election with APC governors yet couldnt win but Wike despite not APC won for APC. This shows that Wike is a real power broker and stronger than those governors who couldnt win for their party

izzou:
Na money nau

As they stayed far away from the piggy bank, they began to decamp one by one.

Nigeria has no opposition currently. Might look like victory for the supporters of APC, but when the party begins make laws that will affect everybody, we will wish for one.

Na siddon look mode I dey now.

There will definitely be a major split after our ogas next 4 years.
The scramble for the ticket will be hilarious...... a strong opposition block must form there of.

It is the nature of politics....... my own is that 2027 is a write off as far as challenging for the supreme seat is concerned.

TrebleChamp:
Did Wike not become a Governor before he started his deliverance? Was Fubara suppose to deliver Rivers election from his office as Accountant General of the State? This same Fubara took the fight to Wike and was even winning until Tinubu intervened. Fubara has showed that he can play it ruff like Wike, so Tinubu should focus on Delta and other South South/South East State...

Wike delivered for himself in 2015 before even becoming governor despite Amaechi the incumbent being APC and using all his power against Wike

How was Fubara winning when Wike was set to impeach him before Tinubu interfered, even Fubara admitted that Tinubu saved him from impeachment.

raumdeuter:
States being APC is not enough. Imo and Ebonyi were APC last election with APC governors yet couldnt win but Wike despite not APC won for APC. This shows that Wike is a real power broker and stronger than those governors who couldnt win for their party

You are writing Chapter 4 of a Mass Comm project, my Chief

Nigeria has 37 states. Someone is going to deliver Rivers state with at most, 100k difference in votes

You call am "Major power broker"

So the ones that will deliver the 8 million plus that Tinubu will get nko??

E rora, Egbon anyi

Tochex101:
There will definitely be a major split after our ogas next 4 years.
The scramble for the ticket will be hilarious...... a strong opposition block must form there of.

It is the nature of politics....... my own is that 2027 is a write off as far as challenging for the supreme seat is concerned.

Before 2027, the party itself will have loopholes.

It's left for it to be enough to wreck them, or we wait till 2031.

You cannot assemble all the political names inside one party, and satisfy them

raumdeuter:
States being APC is not enough. Imo and Ebonyi were APC last election with APC governors yet couldnt win but Wike despite not APC won for APC. This shows that Wike is a real power broker and stronger than those governors who couldnt win for their party

It was by blatant rigging and result manipulation pure and simple.

In the coming election there won't be nearly as much resistance as this previous one.
Voter apathy would be at unseen levels for sure, even Tinubu knows he really doesn't have much to do.
Those of the mind to participate in the South West, most of the North and large portions of the South East and South South would vote for APC willingly.

The vast majority would be disinterested....

izzou:
You are writing Chapter 4 of a Mass Comm project, my Chief
Nigeria has 37 states. Someone is going to deliver Rivers state with at most, 100k difference in votes
You call am "Major power broker"
So the ones that will deliver the 8 million plus that Tinubu will get nko??
E rora, Egbon anyi

That 100k is key, imagine removing that 100k and adding to your opponents. How many states will you need to win to recover than 100K difference

In Politics you aim to add and not remove

izzou:
Before 2027, the party itself will have loopholes.

It's left for it to be enough to wreck them, or we wait till 2031.

You cannot assemble all the political names inside one party, and satisfy them

Then it will be too late to change any outcome as regards the presidential election.
There is only one direction for that and all actors are united in the BAT agenda.

The fractioning will begin as a result of the Gubernatorial primaries as usual....

Tochex101:
It was by blatant rigging and result manipulation pure and simple.

In the coming election there won't be nearly as much resistance as this previous one.
Voter apathy would be at unseen levels for sure, even Tinubu knows he really doesn't have much to do.
Those of the mind to participate in the South West, most of the North and large portions of the South East and South South would vote for APC willingly.

The vast majority would be disinterested....

You can call it blatant rigging or anything you chose to, The Supreme court did not acknowledge it as that

You can speculate here, but seasoned politicians do not take chances, even when you believe there wont be resistance, a seasoned politician will take every vote serious and not look to fight with someone as powerful as Wike

izzou:
Before 2027, the party itself will have loopholes.
It's left for it to be enough to wreck them, or we wait till 2031.
You cannot assemble all the political names inside one party, and satisfy them

There is not party without loopholes even in US, its just to manage the crisis. Everyone cannot be satisfied. You will seive the real people with power and drop those who are just noisemakers

raumdeuter:
That 100k is key, imagine removing that 100k and adding to your opponents. How many states will you need to win to recover than 100K difference

In Politics you aim to add and not remove

If you remove the entire Rivers state vote (including LP, PDP) from APC votes in 2023, Tinubu still won

Major Broker indeed....

raumdeuter:
You can call it blatant rigging or anything you chose to, The Supreme court did not acknowledge it as that

You can speculate here, but seasoned politicians do not take chances, even when you believe there wont be resistance, a seasoned politician will take every vote serious and not look to fight with someone as powerful as Wike

This is true, maybe Tinubu can find a middle ground........ bringing Fubara into the fold of APC offers him some kind of protection.

Denying him the perks of such membership will be a bad signal to all the new powerful decampees.
They are all paying close attention...... its a real tight rope.

Tochex101:
This is true, maybe Tinubu can find a middle ground........ bringing Fubara into the fold of APC offers him some kind of protection.

Denying him the perks of such membership will be a bad signal to all the new powerful decampees.
They are all paying close attention...... its a real tight rope.

Not all decampees are equal, Some are important to APC while some are just trying to hide under APC
They had an agreement when the SoE thing was settled,
Wike withdraw impeachment
Fubara finish your 2nd term and no second term for you

After 1st term, they give Fubara Ambasaddor or ministerial slot

izzou:
If you remove the entire Rivers state vote (including LP, PDP) from APC votes in 2023, Tinubu still won

Major Broker indeed....

Without the effort of the Wike led G5 what would have happened? If Wike and his friends had delivered for PDP what they got for Tinubu

raumdeuter:
Without the effort of the Wike led G5 what would have happened? If Wike and his friends had delivered for PDP what they got for Tinubu

5 Governors make up the G5

Everybody went home and delivered his state.

But na Wike be the Major power broker.

Abeg sir. I no dey ready for the back and forth

Apart from Rivers state, Wike will not deliver anything to Tinubu. In fact, Wike's strife with Fubara is to save his political career. Either ways, Tinubu has any side on his own side.

Just erase any "Major power broker" status you elevated him to.

izzou:
5 Governors make up the G5

Everybody went home and delivered his state.

But na Wike be the Major power broker.

Abeg sir. I no dey ready for the back and forth

Apart from Rivers state, Wike will not deliver anything to Tinubu. In fact, Wike's strife with Fubara is to save his political career. Either ways, Tinubu has any side on his own side.

Just erase any "Major power broker" status you elevated him to.

G5 was as a result of Wike. Na Wike all the G5 follow, to fight his fight If Wike had accepted fate handed to him by PDP there wont be a G5

raumdeuter:
G5 was as a result of Wike. Na Wike all the G5 follow, to fight his fight If Wike had accepted fate handed to him by PDP there wont be a G5

Yes sir
We have heard

raumdeuter:
You are funny, very funny. Why will Wike play on the level you want?

Soon you will say If Wike get mind he should meet at bus stop without bodyguards to fight Fubara in a boxing bout

Na wetin he take pass you he will use against you

The takes dey surprise you abi. He should forego his advantage to please who.

Watching the video of the woman killed by the ICE Agent.

That woman wasn't trying to hit that guy, if we want to be honest

Even look at how her tyres were turned shows she was trying to run away from the officer who wanted to open the door.

May God have mercy on America, suffering from SARS brutality

izzou:
Watching the video of the woman killed by the ICE Agent.

That woman wasn't trying to hit that guy, if we want to be honest

Even look at how her tyres were turned shows she was trying to run away from the officer who wanted to open the door.

May God have mercy on America, suffering from SARS brutality

We are watching America devolve into a third world police state in real time

We are also seeing their nazi turn.

At this rate we will end up with ww3 with the US in the role of ww2 nazi Germany.

If you don't want to be under a Godfather then stop accepting support from Godfathers. Nobody will spend his time and resources to put you in a place, and you expect him not to recoup his investments.

The only reason this film isn't playing out in other states like akwa ibom for example, where the governors have ditched their Godfathers is that the Godfathers are paperweights that aren't powerful without the office of governor. If they had the means and power like Wike, they'd all be dealing with their ungrateful political sons by now.

Tinubu would never tolerate half of what Fubara has done from Sanwo Olu. Y'all saw what happened to Ambode, although you can say the difference is that he was patient enough to wait for primaries before treating Ambode 's fvck up, however Ambode didn't do as much as Fubara, if not he( Tinubu) would've never waited that long before treating his fvck up.

GloriousGbola:
We are watching America devolve into a third world police state in real time

We are also seeing their nazi turn.

At this rate we will end up with ww3 with the US in the role of ww2 nazi Germany.

Anybody defending that kill is blinded by his political affiliation.

That woman was trying to escape from the guy trying to open her door.

She reversed. Turned her steering to run, and the officer in front shot her.

What sort of policing is that?

izzou:
Watching the video of the woman killed by the ICE Agent.

That woman wasn't trying to hit that guy, if we want to be honest

Even look at how her tyres were turned shows she was trying to run away from the officer who wanted to open the door.

May God have mercy on America, suffering from SARS brutality

ICE were performing their duties as stated by law
She and others formed themselves into anti ICE unit to obstruct ICE from doing their work
The officer told her to get down from the car
SHe refused and pressed down the gas while an officer was in front of her car

Now you have multiple angles and videos to start analyzing the angle of the tire, if you are an officer in front of the car aiming at you with split seconds to react what will you do?

Some think law enforcement have multiple lives

You play stupid games with law enforcement you win stupid prizes whether its in Nigeria China or America

izzou:
Anybody defending that kill is blinded by his political affiliation.

That woman was trying to escape from the guy trying to open her door.

She reversed. Turned her steering to run, and the officer in front shot her.

What sort of policing is that?

See what you are saying

Officer in front of your car, another beside your door both telling you to come down

You refuse instead accelerate with an officer in front of you

Haba Nwanne think am na

Those officers sef na one life dem get, na person born dem and dem get family for house

raumdeuter:
See what you are saying

Officer in front of your car, another beside your door both telling you to come down

You refuse instead accelerate with an officer in front of you

Haba Nwanne think am na

Those officers sef na one life dem get, na person born dem and dem get family for house

Odiegwu

I have watched it from different angles

That woman was trying to run away from the officer pulling her door. The one in front could have easily moved away.

How come it's the one standing in front that had his weapon out? Why didn't the one opening the door pull out his gun from the beginning?

Nothing whatsoever warrants her being shot. Absolutely nothing

raumdeuter:
ICE were performing their duties as stated by law
She and others formed themselves into anti ICE unit to obstruct ICE from doing their work
The officer told her to get down from the car
SHe refused and pressed down the gas while an officer was in front of her car

Now you have multiple angles and videos to start analyzing the angle of the tire, if you are an officer in front of the car aiming at you with split seconds to react what will you do?

Some think law enforcement have multiple lives

You play stupid games with law enforcement you win stupid prizes whether its in Nigeria China or America

So if he shot her, and the car still killed him nko?

After shooting her, didn't he jump out of the way?

Abi which kind excuse be this?

izzou:
Odiegwu

I have watched it from different angles

That woman was trying to run away from the officer pulling her door. The one in front could have easily moved away.

How come it's the one standing in front that had his weapon out? Why didn't the one opening the door pull out his gun from the beginning?

Nothing whatsoever warrants her being shot. Absolutely nothing

The ones beside the windows life was not threatened, the one in front did not pull out his weapon until the woman started moving her car towards him

The law is simple whether in Afghanistan or Croatia

Which of the below is controversial to you or any reasonable person

- If you park in the middle of the street and block law enforcement, they have a right to detain you for an infraction. If it’s done on purpose, it’s a crime.
- If they are legally detaining you , and you try to get away, you have now committed a crime.
- If an officer is in front of your vehicle and you drive forward while he/she is in front of you, it can be considered clear hostile act and an assault with a deadly weapon, because a vehicle has the potential to cause serious bodily injury or death
- Which can lead to a law enforcement officer using deadly force to prevent you from hitting him or potentially killing anyone else.

If you don’t want that to happen to you, for your safety and the safety of the officer… DON’T DO THAT!!

izzou:
So if he shot her, and the car still killed him nko?
After shooting her, didn't he jump out of the way?
Abi which kind excuse be this?

She put his life in danger by driving towards him

If you put my life in danger, I will put yours too in danger

raumdeuter:
The ones beside the windows life was not threatened, the one in front did not pull out his weapon until the woman started moving her car towards him

The law is simple whether in Afghanistan or Croatia

- If you park in the middle of the street and block law enforcement, they have a right to detain you for an infraction. If it’s done on purpose, it’s a crime.
- If they are legally detaining you , and you try to get away, you have now committed a crime.
- If an officer is in front of your vehicle and you drive forward while he/she is in front of you, it can be considered clear hostile act and an assault with a deadly weapon, because a vehicle has the potential to cause serious bodily injury or death
- Which can lead to a law enforcement officer using deadly force to prevent you from hitting him or potentially killing anyone else.

If you don’t want that to happen to you, for your safety and the safety of the officer… DON’T DO THAT!!

I have not defended whatever she did. But the penalty for all what you wrote isn't death.

I just want to debunk the lie that she was intending to hit the officer in front. It's not true.