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Stephen0mozzy:
That's what the Soviet Union thought too. All Empires that rise will also Fall.

Ask Rome, Persia, Egypt, Babylon, Britain (UK).

Either explodes from external Powers or implodes via Civil War.

USSR was never the world power at any time.



It is ignorant people that attribute the defeat of Germany Nazi under Hitler to USSR, it was the US that made the defeat of Germany possible. Without US coming all the way to weaken Germany from the Western front and also dealing a heavy blow on Germany's biggest ally Japan, Germany would have defeated USSR.

Flangelo12:
Talking rubbish.

Even today, Americans have become uneasy with the monumental cost of living, making many abandon MAGA and the Republican party.

America was losing its status and Trump has accelerated its demise.

Nobody has to buy an American made product today.

The world is moving towards Technology and AI, not just physical products, and which country is leading in tech and AI? American of course.


There is no single day humans on earth don't make use of American owned tech platforms.


The income these tech platforms, products and services generate is far bigger than what physical products generate today.


America will remain world power for the next 200 years at least

Stephen0mozzy:
I mentioned Israel because the person I quoted was invoking the name of Jesus as a shield for America - I used Israel that had the first revelation of Jesus' God to let the person know say it's not by religious beliefs.

The other things you mention fall under a bias where you're assuming that America is so solid ot can't fail, because other countries are stagnant abi?

When America becomes a common enemy for countries like China, Russia and backstabbed by Israel, terrorized by Iran and all its other enemies, America will first be sabotaged economically, and watch its own citizens eat her up from within and then Russia and China will come clean them up.

But then again, we're both making assumptions. America will not so another 50yrs as 50 States if it continues on this path.

Okay bro and back to the America’s debate, I am definitely not being biased but being realistic. I don’t always agree with the country’s stance and views but realistically speaking, it looks like the last empire that will be known to mankind because usurping it is just impractical. The empires we’ve had in the past all fought wars and most of those wars were won by sheer luck and numbers. Things and time have changed, unlike how it was in the past, countries now possess weapons that can wipe out the world and isn’t it concerning how one country alone has thousands of these weapons in his possession. You might want to argue that Russia has more but the country is definitely not favored by its location as it’s surrounded by neighbors who are hostile while its borders can be easily accessed (relatively and in comparison to the US) and this is one of the reasons you are more likely to see Russian-made weapons in wrong hands and places unlike the Americans’.
About implosion, the US seems to be resistant due to their mature nature. Like I pointed out in my previous comment, they are never divided when it comes to external politics. See what’s happening in Venezuela and even Nigeria for example, opposition leaders in Venezuela are happy that a leader who they describe as a tyrant was arrested not thinking about the greater consequences and embarrassment the arrest caused the country. It is not uncommon to see some people from the North and Eastern parts of Nigeria calling for military or external assistance invasion of Nigeria just because they don’t like the person in power. My friend, all these nonsenses can’t happen in the US, they are never divided when it comes to external politics. Insurrections is more likely to happen in empires like the Russian and the Chinese, at least Yevgeny Prigozhin tried it with Putin. This new empire isn’t crumbling any time soon my brother.

Stephen0mozzy:
I mentioned Israel because the person I quoted was invoking the name of Jesus as a shield for America - I used Israel that had the first revelation of Jesus' God to let the person know say it's not by religious beliefs.

The other things you mention fall under a bias where you're assuming that America is so solid ot can't fail, because other countries are stagnant abi?

When America becomes a common enemy for countries like China, Russia and backstabbed by Israel, terrorized by Iran and all its other enemies, America will first be sabotaged economically, and watch its own citizens eat her up from within and then Russia and China will come clean them up.

But then again, we're both making assumptions. America will not so another 50yrs as 50 States if it continues on this path.

Okay bro and back to the America’s debate, I am definitely not being biased but being realistic. I don’t always agree with the country’s stance and views but realistically speaking, it looks like the last empire that will be known to mankind because usurping it is just impractical. In that 50 years, will America too be sleeping?
Those empires we’ve had in the past all fought wars and most of those wars were won by sheer luck and numbers. Many of them were shaken by those wars. Things and time have changed, unlike how it was in the past, countries now possess weapons that can wipe out the world and isn’t it concerning how one country alone has thousands of these weapons in his possession?. You might want to argue that Russia has more but the country is definitely not favored by its political system (somewhat immature) and location as the country is surrounded by neighbors who are hostile while its borders can be easily accessed (relatively and in comparison to the US’s borders) and this is one of the reasons you are more likely to see Russian-made weapons in wrong hands (terrorists and Dictators) and places unlike the Americans’.
About implosion, the US seems to be resistant due to the kind of mature politics they play. Like I pointed out in my previous comment, they are never divided when it comes to external politics. See what’s happening in Venezuela and even Nigeria for example, opposition leaders in Venezuela are happy that a leader who they describe as a tyrant was arrested not thinking about the greater consequences, the bad precedent and embarrassment the arrest has caused the country. It is not uncommon to see people from the North and Eastern parts of Nigeria calling for military or external meddling into Nigeria’s affairs just because they don’t like the person in power. The Ibos would be the happiest should Tinubu be given the Maduro’s treatment (due highly impossible because Tinubu is a democratically elected leader and not a tyrant like Maduro)
My friend, let’s be truthful to ourselves, all this nonsense can’t happen in the US, they are never divided when it comes to external politics. Insurrections and implosion are more likely to happen in empires like the Russian and the Chinese, at least Yevgeny Prigozhin tried it with Putin. This new empire isn’t crumbling any time soon my brother.

This. Is a super power expressing himself, the don't need help from others as much as others need them. Not a country cap in hand begging up and down for loans and foreign aids. Lesson: Add value to yourself that you will be needed and sought for, not the other way round. America has carved a niche for herself.

This is not 1940s!

Ezeama400:
America will never fall, apart from their economy and military , their geographical location contributed immensely to their strength.. No country has that advantage in this world..

UrVillageChief:
Okay bro and back to the America’s debate, I am definitely not being biased but being realistic. I don’t always agree with the country’s stance and views but realistically speaking, it looks like the last empire that will be known to mankind because usurping it is just impractical. In that 50 years, will America too be sleeping?
Those empires we’ve had in the past all fought wars and most of those wars were won by sheer luck and numbers. Many of them were shaken by those wars. Things and time have changed, unlike how it was in the past, countries now possess weapons that can wipe out the world and isn’t it concerning how one country alone has thousands of these weapons in his possession?. You might want to argue that Russia has more but the country is definitely not favored by its political system (somewhat immature) and location as the country is surrounded by neighbors who are hostile while its borders can be easily accessed (relatively and in comparison to the US’s borders) and this is one of the reasons you are more likely to see Russian-made weapons in wrong hands (terrorists and Dictators) and places unlike the Americans’.
About implosion, the US seems to be resistant due to the kind of mature politics they play. Like I pointed out in my previous comment, they are never divided when it comes to external politics. See what’s happening in Venezuela and even Nigeria for example, opposition leaders in Venezuela are happy that a leader who they describe as a tyrant was arrested not thinking about the greater consequences, the bad precedent and embarrassment the arrest has caused the country. It is not uncommon to see people from the North and Eastern parts of Nigeria calling for military or external meddling into Nigeria’s affairs just because they don’t like the person in power. The Ibos would be the happiest should Tinubu be given the Maduro’s treatment (due highly impossible because Tinubu is a democratically elected leader and not a tyrant like Maduro)
My friend, let’s be truthful to ourselves, all this nonsense can’t happen in the US, they are never divided when it comes to external politics. Insurrections and implosion are more likely to happen in empires like the Russian and the Chinese, at least Yevgeny Prigozhin tried it with Putin. This new empire isn’t crumbling any time soon my brother.

Oga mi Sir, you have raised very reasonable points, but it still relies on one bias - Trump's America.
Just one administration ago, America had become the laughing stock of the Western world, and if it had had two consecutive Joe Biden-kind of president, America would have been humbled into former glory just like the British.

You say Americans are ever so united against external concerns, but just like any country that has become too prosperous, too free, it soon becomes unreasonable and then they start to look for more common enemy; and sooner or later they'll find that enemy at home and will self-disintegrate. American's democracy is its strength and weakness, China is a contender for the next world power. and in that 50yrs time, it's not going to be America.

Ezeama400:
America will never fall, apart from their economy and military , their geographical location contributed immensely to their strength.. No country has that advantage in this world..

No nation stays powerful forever.

If the world can be bold enough and isolate america, it'd crumble in one year. You guys watch too much american movies and think everything to be reality.

1. How many American soldiers died ?
2. How many USSR soldiers died?

3. How many axis soldiers did the Americans kill ?
4. How many axis soldiers did the USSR kill ?
5. Who took Berlin ?

6. What was the foot print of the USA military in Europe during WW2 ? What was that of the USSR ?


Conclusion: the USSR did around 80% (if not more) of the job to defeat the axis in ww2.

franchasng:
USSR was never the world power at any time.



It is ignorant people that attribute the defeat of Germany Nazi under Hitler to USSR, it was the US that made the defeat of Germany possible. Without US coming all the way to weaken Germany from the Western front and also dealing a heavy blow on Germany's biggest ally Japan, Germany would have defeated USSR.

Ghostagain:
1. How many American soldiers died ?
2. How many USSR soldiers died?

3. How many axis soldiers did the Americans kill ?
4. How many axis soldiers did the USSR kill ?
5. Who took Berlin ?

6. What was the foot print of the USA military in Europe during WW2 ? What was that of the USSR ?


Conclusion: the USSR did around 80% (if not more) of the job to defeat the axis in ww2.

You know nothing about world war II.


Stalin/USSR were Hitler/Germany ally at the start of the war.


Stalin only mobilized against Germany after Hitler ordered German soldiers to invade USSR from Poland after conquering Poland.


And at this time, Germany was already facing serious drawbacks on the Western front being manned by; UK, US, etc.



It was Hitler's miscalculation that made him lose to USSR because his military was already overstretched fighting on too many fronts at the same time and coupled with the extreme weather issue German soldiers faced on their advancement to Moscow.

Typical Nigerian's response.
I'm too educated for this conversation with you. Have a nice life.

franchasng:
You know nothing about world war II.


Stalin/USSR were Hitler/Germany ally at the start of the war.


Stalin only mobilized against Germany after Hitler ordered German soldiers to invade USSR from Poland after conquering Poland.


And at this time, Germany was already facing serious drawbacks on the Western front being manned by; UK, US, etc.



It was Hitler's miscalculation that made him lose to USSR because his military was already overstretched fighting on too many fronts at the same time and coupled with the extreme weather issue German soldiers faced on their advancement to Moscow.