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Poll: Do you support the demolition notice in Lagos

Yes 30% (9 votes)
No 70% (21 votes)
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Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by horlando30(op): 3:13pm On Jan 09
Ttalk:
You are lying with your 150meter clearance from the highway of coastal road.

I challenge you to prove any official document or residential accounts that stated that government demanded for 150m clearance.

It is the policy of FG of Nigeria to give clearance parts on every highway and the stipulated length from the highway is 45m in each of the sides of the road, the total of both sides which amount to 90m.

Where did you see 150m?

This applies to FG roads across Nigeria, just like same observed in second Niger bridge so also is applicable to Lagos -Calabar coastal
road.

I know you deliberately increases the ROW to 150m to justify and spread your hate for the government. However, while doing that, you have forgotten that many property owners along that corridor are on Nairaland reading your distorted information.
I know you are paid troll and shouldnt respond to your ignorant self but that will make you perpetuate your ignorance here.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qda70-Gj_O0
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by horlando30(op): 3:24pm On Jan 09
Burob:
Is the president the Minister of Works?
Because he gave the order, so he is responsible.

Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by highchief1: 3:32pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
I drove through the Lagos calabar coastal highway recently and i did not fail to notice the demolition notice written on many beautiful structures adjacent the road on both sides. Govt asking for 150 metres clearance from the highway. That is ridiculous, 150 metres is like 4 full plots of land, what do they intend to use such land clearance for? I was told this was a directive from the president. As much as I welcome the idea of the coastal road, it makes no sense to destroy people's property for no just cause. I saw beautiful houses, fuel station, high rises marked for demolition from marwa to okun ajah on the island which could cover nothing less than a 1000 properties and structures in a small state like Lagos. This is pure waste of resources by the government. I want to assume the president does not understand what 150 m really translates to but what of the minister of works. Average clearance on highways in the US is between 5 and 40 meters. WTH do you need 4 plot clearance for? Or is someone trying to steal land by proxy?
they paid me compensation for my 6 bedroom mansion duplex in delta for second naija bridge by pass access road.i have used their money to rebuild my house and the project is no longer on going.drug people are in power now so all of us must be patient.it will pass.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by Sheuns(m): 3:33pm On Jan 09
They’ll steal the lands and reallocate to themselves.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by highchief1: 3:38pm On Jan 09
DomPerignon:
The owners of the building earmarked for demolition are not complaining as they know they will be compensated with the current market value of their properties. The ones whose homes have been demolished are not crying as they have since cashed out.

Also, there is a law that grants the Federal govt exclusive rights to all coastal setbacks up to 150m from the very edge of the ocean.

FG is even being magnanimous by paying anything because the properties encroached on federal land in the first place and none of the owners have a Federal issued Certificate of Occupancy. Their lawyers have briefed them on going to court to challenge the FG reclaiming their land. If anything , the FG has been kind enough to pay compensation at current market value to property owners along the path of this project.

So rest.

Why you landlocked hither dwelling natives are so obsessed with a project that is not in anyway connected to your region is what I don't understand.

Care to tell us why this long overdue project that will fast track economic development and promote economic growth in all coastal states in the SS is paining you ?
bros keep quiet.u are still a tenant.what do u understand by market value.u don see who govt pay well before?it’s only world bank or rich individuals that pay well.i was paid last year for my mansion by govt and it was laughable.i know how I managed myself.una go just come internet Dey talk anyhow.When Jim ovia wanted to expand his compound in Agbor.the house around him he bought all of them got about 3times the value of their houses.they all smiled and prayed for him.i don’t say what I don’t know.Most of us that collected compensation from govt know we can’t fight them.so don’t take our quietness for happiness.e no get wetin we fit do umahi and tinubu.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by Burob: 3:57pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
Because he gave the order, so he is responsible.
You reiterate my point, notice from the Surveyor General’s office.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by Ttalk: 4:27pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
I know you are paid troll and shouldnt respond to your ignorant self but that will make you perpetuate your ignorance here.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qda70-Gj_O0
You need to request for refund of your education. How does a random YouTube interview translate to fact.

An enlighten person will request for the copy of the evacuation notice from the government and clearly show where 150m ROW is requested.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by Originalsly: 4:30pm On Jan 09
DomPerignon:
Truth has never won a popularity contest amongst liars and those who thrive on lies.
Been trying to follow your line of argument .... often requesting citations but providing none . The point of argument was why 150 m clearance for the Coastal Highway? Why? If the buildings were demolished because they had no permit ...fine ...they were in Federal Reserve...fine....but why for the highway? I wish you can focus on this the point.
No doubt... internationally...the Federal Government has the right to confiscate property from private persons or businesses that are standing in the way of a public project ...in this case road infrastructure. The FG is required to compensate the owners by paying current market value of their property.
Back to the point ... reference was made to similar situations in the US. We need to look at the process as a whole. If a highway was deemed necessary... th n planners will first draft the best possible pathit should take ... avoiding residential or established communities as possible and thereby paying less compensation. In this case ...the communities were there first... they are going wayyyy out of their way to demolish these buildings ... absolutely unnecessary unless you can explain.

A highway ..in Manhattan...imagine clearing 150m of property to build this one? Did they clear land? No ...they build it over the existing one . Demolishing property to make a 150,M clearance for a highway? This is crazy.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by Ttalk: 4:35pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
Because he gave the order, so he is responsible.
You are such a dishonest person otherwise you would show complete letter and let's see where 150m is indicated in the letter.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by JomoGbomo2(m): 4:43pm On Jan 09
Ttalk:
You need to request for refund of your education. How does a random YouTube interview translate to fact.

An enlighten person will request for the copy of the evacuation notice from the government and clearly show where 150m ROW is requested.
The guys is right, FG is demanding 150m ROW on the coastal road, the markings started this week. Our projects are threatened but we are slightly lucky. So yes it is happening right now 150m set back.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by horlando30(op): 5:41pm On Jan 09
Ttalk:
You need to request for refund of your education. How does a random YouTube interview translate to fact.

An enlighten person will request for the copy of the evacuation notice from the government and clearly show where 150m ROW is requested.
Ah yes, the classic “I refuse to research but I demand footnotes” approach.
Instead of shouting from the comfort of your lazy chair, why not stand up, dust your brain, and actually do the research yourself?

If you were even half as enlightened as you claim, you would know how to look up official notices, ROW regulations, and government publications without waiting to be spoon-fed like a nursery school pupil. Google is free. Public records are free. Initiative is also free but apparently scarce for you.

So please, save the fake intellectual outrage. Do your homework yourself and stop outsourcing basic thinking.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 7:10pm On Jan 09
The I consider your submission as a subtle continuation of the senseless opposition to the project by bigotry enemies of progress who had no genuine reason to oppose it other than hidden primordial interest and grandstanding.
I thought enough hues and cries have been e raised on this issue as it is.

Your last paragraph smoked you out as having a vested interest.
Imagine your insolent insinuation that perhaps the president may not know the distance of 150km.

That said, common sense should tell anyone that future exigencies should be considered in executing projects of this nature.
Furthermore, isn't it time we did away with this colonial mentality of referring to foreign examples in local matters ?
Must not use our home-grown initiatives for our own convenience ?
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by horlando30(op): 7:51pm On Jan 09
BlakKluKluxKlan:
The I consider your submission as a subtle continuation of the senseless opposition to the project by bigotry enemies of progress who had no genuine reason to oppose it other than hidden primordial interest and grandstanding.
I thought enough hues and cries have been e raised on this issue as it is.

Your last paragraph smoked you out as having a vested interest.
Imagine your insolent insinuation that perhaps the president may not know the distance of 150km.

That said, common sense should tell anyone that future exigencies should be considered in executing projects of this nature.
Furthermore, isn't it time we did away with this colonial mentality of referring to foreign examples in local matters ?
Must not use our home-grown initiatives for our own convenience ?
Hey bot, please spare us the performance. It’s very obvious you are the same person running Ttalk, Domperigon, and God-knows-what other fake accounts you have. Same talking points, same broken logic, same paid enthusiasm. When you are on payroll, initiative becomes a luxury, so I understand why original thinking is absent for you.

Let me be very clear before you derail this again: this discussion has nothing to do with APC, PDP, LP, ADC or whatever alphabet party you are currently defending for pocket money. I will not reveal any political inclination for the amusement of simpletons whose entire online existence is tied to defending their paymaster.
You people are online jobbers, data boys trained to see every conversation as a battlefield where you must earn your daily bread. Everything to you is propaganda because that is all you know.

As I have stated repeatedly, this thread is not for your likes. It is meant for decision-makers and people with actual authority not paid noise makers, comment mercenaries, or professional trolls hunting for engagement.

Now move along and look for another thread where your services are required.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by DaddyJapan(m): 8:03pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
I drove through the Lagos calabar coastal highway recently and i did not fail to notice the demolition notice written on many beautiful structures adjacent the road on both sides. Govt asking for 150 metres clearance from the highway. That is ridiculous, 150 metres is like 4 full plots of land, what do they intend to use such land clearance for? I was told this was a directive from the president. As much as I welcome the idea of the coastal road, it makes no sense to destroy people's property for no just cause. I saw beautiful houses, fuel station, high rises marked for demolition from marwa to okun ajah on the island which could cover nothing less than a 1000 properties and structures in a small state like Lagos. This is pure waste of resources by the government. I want to assume the president does not understand what 150 m really translates to but what of the minister of works. Average clearance on highways in the US is between 5 and 40 meters. WTH do you need 4 plot clearance for? Or is someone trying to steal land by proxy?
Alhaji, you do understand we are talking about a coastal road here. The operative word being coastal (running alongside an ocean)?

STANDARD RULES FOR SETBACKS FROM THE ROAD IN NIGERIA.

A. Required setbacks for the different rights of way

i. Federal Highway (primary) – 90 metres right of way. 45 metres from the centre to the property line. (75ft, 60ft)

ii. State High way (secondary) – 60 metres right of way. 30 m from the centre to the property line. (50ft,45ft)

iii. Local Road (State) – 24metres, 18m,15m,12m (12m, 9m, 7.5m, 6m right of ways respectively from the centre to the property line as applicable) (31ft, 25ft)

iv. Access Road / Street 9 metres, 6metres from the edges.

v. Building line of property and the outer edge of NNPC oil pipeline – 15 metres

B. Required Setbacks from Different Water Bodies

i. Ocean/sea – 150metres


ii. Lagoon – 50metres

iii. River – 15metres

iv. Seasonal – 15metres
Read more: https://nigerianpropertyinfo./2022/01/01/standard-rules-for-setbacks-from-the-road-in-nigeria

Give to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar. Give to the sea god that which belongs to the sea god. cool
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 8:17pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
Hey bot, please spare us the performance. It’s very obvious you are the same person running Ttalk, Domperigon, and God-knows-what other fake accounts you have. Same talking points, same broken logic, same paid enthusiasm. When you are on payroll, initiative becomes a luxury, so I understand why original thinking is absent for you.

Let me be very clear before you derail this again: this discussion has nothing to do with APC, PDP, LP, ADC or whatever alphabet party you are currently defending for pocket money. I will not reveal any political inclination for the amusement of simpletons whose entire online existence is tied to defending their paymaster.
You people are online jobbers, data boys trained to see every conversation as a battlefield where you must earn your daily bread. Everything to you is propaganda because that is all you know.

As I have stated repeatedly, this thread is not for your likes. It is meant for decision-makers and people with actual authority not paid noise makers, comment mercenaries, or professional trolls hunting for engagement.

Now move along and look for another thread where your services are required.
Me, on someone' s payroll ?
For what exactly ?
What a laugh !

Seems like those of you who constitute nuisance on this website ranting and wailing wrongly imagine that every other person are like you.
I got better things to do than engaging you.
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by horlando30(op): 8:19pm On Jan 09
DaddyJapan:
Alhaji, you do understand we are talking about a coastal road here. The operative word being coastal (running alongside an ocean)?



Read more: https://nigerianpropertyinfo./2022/01/01/standard-rules-for-setbacks-from-the-road-in-nigeria

Give to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar. Give to the sea god that which belongs to the sea god. cool
I get your point but I am not talking about 150m setback from the sea though. What i saw were remove/demolition notice markings for 150m ROW even on the land side of the coastal road (places way farther than 150m away from the sea). I saw markings at some point 2 streets deep into lekki side of town. An entire estate was marked for demolition. How do you explain that?
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by DaddyJapan(m): 8:30pm On Jan 09
horlando30:
I get your point but I am not talking about 150m setback from the sea though. What i saw were remove/demolition notice markings for 150m ROW even on the land side of the coastal road (places way farther than 150m away from the sea). I saw markings at some point 2 streets deep into lekki side of town. An entire estate was marked for demolition. How do you explain that?
Come on, now, Alhaji horlando30, you have directed a question about civil/structural engineering to someone who has no expertise in this area.

I think it is best we to defer to the experts, don't you? You are not thinking the 150 metre rule was conceived with malicious intent. are you?
Re: Senseless Demolition On Coastal Road by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 2:39pm On Jan 12
horlando30:
Hey bot, please spare us the performance. It’s very obvious you are the same person running Ttalk, Domperigon, and God-knows-what other fake accounts you have. Same talking points, same broken logic, same paid enthusiasm. When you are on payroll, initiative becomes a luxury, so I understand why original thinking is absent for you.

Let me be very clear before you derail this again: this discussion has nothing to do with APC, PDP, LP, ADC or whatever alphabet party you are currently defending for pocket money. I will not reveal any political inclination for the amusement of simpletons whose entire online existence is tied to defending their paymaster.
You people are online jobbers, data boys trained to see every conversation as a battlefield where you must earn your daily bread. Everything to you is propaganda because that is all you know.

As I have stated repeatedly, this thread is not for your likes. It is meant for decision-makers and people with actual authority not paid noise makers, comment mercenaries, or professional trolls hunting for engagement.

Now move along and look for another thread where your services are required.
Do you see how dumb you, bud ?
You forced me to use a word I don't like using

You said the thread is for decision-makers.
Then, why bring it to the public domain ?
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