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Mattswaggz:
No I agree that you're the one that is evil for supporting evil.....I hope you turn from your evil ways and may our world be filled with children that can stand for their rights and not docile one's that your likes fancy.

Your deflecting does not work. The thread shows you clearly supporting evil as I clearly pointed out that normal people do not attack every person who attacks them, and they still stand up/defend their rights in the appropriate cases.

So, I bless you with the ivu that you love and support in which your children and young ones should slap yiu and anything you as long in the rights which you say they have to do all of these things. Amen

dettolgel:
I am sorry you are just wasting your advice on the mannerless guy. Even out here, if someone hits me whether older or younger than me, I can't hit the person back "na to call olopa na court go settle us" I can't stoop to that level.

In Africa if my uncle acted that way I will ignore him and report him to the umunna let them deal with it. There are procedures for handling such, but of course the arrogant and naive youngman doesn't know. He thinks he is tough until his village people takes sides with his uncle and deal with him. Maybe that will teach him how to handle conflict appropriately.

Exactly

Dtruthspeaker:
Your deflecting does work. The thread shows you clearly supporting evil as I clearly pointed out that normal people do not attack every person who attacks them, and they still stand up/defend their rights in the appropriate cases.

So, I bless you with the ivu that you love and support in which your children and young ones should slap yiu and anything you as long in the rights which you say they have to do all of these things. Amen

You're too dumb to engage me in any debate.... what's more pathetic is your dumbness is already in full display....who are you to decide "who's normal people" and who's vice versa?.

You're supporting someone who attacks another unprovoked and blaming the victim just like typical evil people do right?......ur likes are the reason why this country is as good as hell.

Btw....what's "ivu children" ?. .

Mattswaggz:
You're too dumb to engage me in any debate.... what's more pathetic is your dumbness is already in full display....who are you to decide "who's normal people" and who's vice versa?.

You're supporting someone who attacks another unprovoked and blaming the victim just like typical evil people do right?......ur likes are the reason why this country is as good as hell.

Btw....what's "ivu children" ?. .

What is there to debate when the debate is already over with you stating that you love and support children slapping older ones ino matter what as a matter of right? So, I bless you with the world you love where your children would be slapping their older ones

Dtruthspeaker:
What is there to debate when the debate is already over with you stating that you love and support children slapping older ones ino matter what as a matter of right? So, I bless you with the world you love where your children would be slapping their older ones

Lol....see mumu....stop quoting half text and attributing them to me u dishonest person.....I said I support people acting in self defense or responding to an assault in self defense not just "slapping others".....now say it the right way and stop mincing words okay. .

Mattswaggz:
Lol....see mumu....stop quoting half text and attributing them to me u dishonest person.....I said I support people acting in self defense or responding to an assault in self defense not just "slapping others".....now say it the right way and stop mincing words okay. .

When the debate is lost, insults become the loser's tool.” — Socrates

The thread clearly shows that you support this child op who slapped his uncle, thereby proving that you support children slapping their elders, under it is their rights of self defence.

The thread shows your preference and stand.

Dtruthspeaker:
When the debate is lost, insults become the loser's tool.” — Socrates

The thread clearly shows that you support this child op who slapped his uncle, thereby proving that you support children slapping their elders, under it is their rights of self defence.

The thread shows your preference and stand.

The thread also shows that you support unprovoked assault and victim blaming which is evil in every shades.....now take thy evil self outta here.....heard enough cruelty supporting for the day.

We4all:
@Lexzeey..can you honestly answer the question above? Let me ask another question: if it was a renowned cultist or bandit that slapped you, would you retaliate?

You clearly admitted that he was intoxicated, so your reaction was very wrong.

Put yourself in his shoes, and imagine been hit by someone young enough to be your son, regardless of the circumstances.

I think you were triggered by his criticisms due to guilty conscience. I should encourage you to go apologise, but of what use is that? He may never forgive you, and I am down with him on that.

Next time, you will learn how to control your temper and not flex muscles with someone physically weaker just because you bear a grudge against him.

@he may never forgive you.. hmmm. Chai, so true.

It's well with you Op.

Just forgive yourself and move on.

Note, I don't condemn your actions, neither do I support.

Mattswaggz:
The thread also shows that you support unprovoked assault and victim blaming which is evil in every shades.....now take thy evil self outta here.....heard enough cruelty supporting for the day.

Your deflecting and lying does not work for no where did I say uncle was right in his action.

But, clearly as everyone has said, he is very wrong to have slapped his elders. There are other reasonable things he could have done in response.

But because he is a bad person is why he did it.

dettolgel:
From your response to me I can sense your rudeness
I did disagree with your reaction without insulting you or being condescending. When it was time for you to disagree with me you started by being condescending and using insulting words. .

Clear sign of a very bad person filled with pains and frustrations. Even from the very beginning of his post, it was clear. A very apparent proof that atheists are very bad people and of course other atheists like mattswagz will stup.... try to defend their evil ways

Dtruthspeaker:
Clear sign of a very bad person filled with pains and frustrations. Even from the very beginning of his post, it was clear. A very apparent proof that atheists are very bad people and of course other atheists like mattswagz will stup.... try to defend their evil ways

I don't know what agitates him, but he sure sounds like someone that needs peace and love in his life. I pray he humbles himself and seek help before it is too late.

SisterAnn:
@he may never forgive you.. hmmm. Chai, so true.

It's well with you Op.

Just forgive yourself and move on.

Note, I don't condemn your actions, neither do I support.

You don't condemn neither do you support, aunty please come down from that fence this is 2026

dettolgel:
I don't know what agitates him, but he sure sounds like someone that needs peace and love in his life. I pray he humbles himself and seek help before it is too late.

He's an atheist, he can never have peace

dettolgel:
You don't condemn neither do you support, aunty please come down from that fence this is 2026

See ehn, we are not in his shoes, only who feels it knows it. We don't know their family dynamics. We don't know the demons both of them are confronting.

Will I react the way he did? No.
Yet, since who feels it knows it, we listen, we don't judge.

Dtruthspeaker:
Your deflecting and lying does not work for no where did I say uncle was right in his action.

But, clearly as everyone has said, he is very wrong to have slapped his elders. There are other reasonable things he could have done in response.

But because he is a bad person is why he did it.

And the assaulter was a good person that's why he didn't do the other things you're talking about..... continue supporting evil and trying to justify yourself. .

The person that did it and triggered the victim to respond isn't "evil" it's the victim that responded in like manner that's "evil" and you wonder why all manner of backwardness and disgraceful things happen in this country.....your likes are the cause.

Mattswaggz:
And the assaulter was a good person that's why he didn't do the other things you're talking about..... continue supporting evil and trying to justify yourself. .

The person that did it and triggered the victim to respond isn't "evil" it's the victim that responded in like manner that's "evil" and you wonder why all manner of backwardness and disgraceful things happen in this country.....your likes are the cause.

I have just said that "no where did I say uncle was right in his action", yet you so love love supporting the evil of children beating up their elders that you plucked out your eyes to commit the fallacy of false dilemma.

As, as I said, I bless you with the world you love where your children would be slapping their older ones!

SisterAnn:
See ehn, we are not in his shoes, only who feels it knows it. We don't know their family dynamics. We don't know the demons both of them are confronting.

Will I react the way he did? No.
Yet, since who feels it knows it, we listen, we don't judge.

I completely agree with you, it is true a times we need to know when not to take side.

But my biggest question is this, if you don't give your honesty opinion, how is the person going to learn?

This type of friendship is evident to some extent on how the western kids react to situations because no one wants to "judge". Whereas their counterparts in countries where people "judge" have more experiences from "judging" in dealing with situations.

I also agree that there are other factors that could also contribute to the disparities in how both handles everyday life challenges, but we can't completely ignore the effects of learning from wise counsels.

Mattswaggz:
And the assaulter was a good person that's why he didn't do the other things you're talking about..... continue supporting evil and trying to justify yourself. .

The person that did it and triggered the victim to respond isn't "evil" it's the victim that responded in like manner that's "evil" and you wonder why all manner of backwardness and disgraceful things happen in this country.....your likes are the cause.

There is a reason why societies have laws and law enforcement or even community leaders to prevent the society from devolving into chaos. If someone shots your family member and kills the persons and if you are in a position to report to the authority but instead you kill the person. I am sure you know that you are most likely going to be charged with manslaughter?

If someone hits you once and in a bid to retaliate you knock them out cold and they sustain serious injury, I am sure you know how the case is going to pan out in court?

Given that this happened in the village, for the victim to protect his/herself and not give room for technical error report to the community body and let them handle it. Now, the table has turn and the community law will be used against the supposedly victim and the attacker is now the victim.

As a student in the west, I observed a situation where a drunk attacked someone in defending himself the boy plummeted the attacker. When police and ambulance arrived the drunk was taken to the hospital whereas the "victim" was arrested for causing bodily harm and serious injury.

The reason they usually ask people to calm down, not because you are weak or stupid but not to make a mistake that will put you on the other side of the conversation.

Dtruthspeaker:
I have just said that "no where did I say uncle was right in his action", yet you so love love supporting the evil of children beating up their elders that you plucked out your eyes to commit the fallacy of false dilemma.

As, as I said, I bless you with the world you love where your children would be slapping their older ones!

You don't need to say it..... you exonerating the assaulter on "age based sentiments" and constantly calling the victim "evil" says enough already.

dettolgel:
There is a reason why societies have laws and law enforcement or even community leaders to prevent the society from devolving into chaos. If someone shots your family member and kills the persons and if you are in a position to report to the authority but instead you kill the person. I am sure you know that you are most likely going to be charged with manslaughter?

If someone hits you once and in a bid to retaliate you knock them out cold and they sustain serious injury, I am sure you know how the case is going to pan out in court?

Given that this happened in the village, for the victim to protect his/herself and not give room for technical error report to the community body and let them handle it. Now, the table has turn and the community law will be used against the supposedly victim and the attacker is now the victim.

As a student in the west, I observed a situation where a drunk attacked someone in defending himself the boy plummeted the attacker. When police and ambulance arrived the drunk was taken to the hospital whereas the "victim" was arrested for causing bodily harm and serious injury.

The reason they usually ask people to calm down, not because you are weak or stupid but not to make a mistake that will put you on the other side of the conversation.

Your analogies aren't bad and they're logical as well but that doesn't change the fact that people react differently.......and also if we are to bring in the Nigeria factor into one of your analogies then OP will most likely know that instead of getting justice by reporting to the community authorities he might end up being demonize and blamed due to the kind of sentiments the Nigerian culture use when it comes to judging between a child and an elder or someone old enough to be his father.....the child can hardly be right against the elder and even if the elder spew out lies he's more likely to be believed compared to the child.

The elder shouldn't have assaulted OP and from my view OP should've either just used words of insults/warning to the man firstly instead of his first reaction being a retaliation.....but above all no one should excuse the elder behavior for any reason.

Mattswaggz:
Your analogies aren't bad and they're logical as well but that doesn't change the fact that people react differently.......and also if we are to bring in the Nigeria factor into one of your analogies then OP will most likely know that instead of getting justice by reporting to the community authorities he might end up being demonize and blamed due to the kind of sentiments the Nigerian culture use when it comes to judging between a child and an elder or someone old enough to be his father.....the child can hardly be right against the elder and even if the elder spew out lies he's more likely to be believed compared to the child.

The elder shouldn't have assaulted OP and from my view OP should've either just used words of insults/warning to the man firstly instead of his first reaction being a retaliation.....but above all no one should excuse the elder behavior for any reason.

Well spoken! I agree with you completely that he is less likely to get the justice he deserved if he had reported to the elder. But now he sure will be served with the injustice that he doesn't deserve.

Mattswaggz:
You don't need to say it..... you exonerating the assaulter on "age based sentiments" and constantly calling the victim "evil" says enough already.

If I believe he is right, I will say it and state my reasons. But, uncle, indeed looked for trouble and found it

Dtruthspeaker:
If I believe he is right, I will say it and state my reasons. But, uncle, indeed looked for trouble and found it

Then why did you keep on ignoring his actions that led to the reprisal and putting the blame solely on OP?. .

Mattswaggz:
Then why did you keep on ignoring his actions that led to the reprisal and putting the blame solely on OP?. .

That is because the op then joined him to a wrong and then his own was even more wronger than the uncle's own. As everyone has expressed a young person does not have a right to slap his uncle, generally.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is because the op then joined him to a wrong and then his own was even more wronger than the uncle's own. As everyone has expressed a young person does not have a right to slap his uncle, generally.

Logically....he has the right especially in the heat of the moment and like I said earlier "everyone reacts differently"..... culturally, a lot of people especially Africans view it as a blatant disrespect to retaliate in such a scenario.....all in all that doesn't make OP evil.

Everyone has emotions and from the post you can see that there was already a build up to this very event....which means emotions from both sides were already at their peak waiting to explode and the opportunity presented itself and boom it exploded.......They should settle the case amicably with both sides realizing their own inactions and apologies should be done in accordance to offense and initial precedent..... Demonizing OP and making him the culprit is what I can't stand and it's rampant in Africa today.... elders can literally assault and lie against a child and they'll get away with it or get what they want because they already know the society gives them an advantage and that is wrong in all shades. Doing good isn't a one side thing...all parties must play their part and accept that respect is reciprocal....the good proper Justice can bring to the society is immense and also the damage injustice can bring to any society is underrated and that's one thing humans generally have failed to realize.

Mattswaggz:
Logically....he has the right especially in the heat of the moment and like I said earlier "everyone reacts differently"..... culturally, a lot of people especially Africans view it as a blatant disrespect to retaliate in such a scenario.....all in all that doesn't make OP evil.

Everyone has emotions and from the post you can see that there was already a build up to this very event....which means emotions from both sides were already at their peak waiting to explode and the opportunity presented itself and boom it exploded.......They should settle the case amicably with both sides realizing their own inactions and apologies should be done in accordance to offense and initial precedent..... Demonizing OP and making him the culprit is what I can't stand and it's rampant in Africa today.... elders can literally assault and lie against a child and they'll get away with it or get what they want because they already know the society gives them an advantage and that is wrong in all shades. Doing good isn't a one side thing...all parties must play their part and accept that respect is reciprocal....the good proper Justice can bring to the society is immense and also the damage injustice can bring to any society is underrated and that's one thing humans generally have failed to realize.

Even logically, he still does not have a right to do so. His action was premeditated and he knew his uncle was going to fall for the trap he set. Which is proof that he already fore planned to hurt his uncle, in breach of the natural Law that a young person does not have a right to slap his uncle,

Claiming heat and passion still does not avail him for 2 wrongs do not make a right. And by the gravity of wrongs, he even did more wrong than his uncle

And justice would punish him twice more than his uncle for to have even had a mind of slapping his uncle and to do it, is the evil

Dtruthspeaker:
Even logically, he still does not have a right to do so. His action was premeditated and he knew his uncle was going to fall for the trap he set. Which is proof that he already fore planned to hurt his uncle, in breach of the natural Law that a young person does not have a right to slap his uncle,

Claiming heat and passion still does not avail him for 2 wrongs do not make a right. And by the gravity of wrongs, he even did more wrong than his uncle

And justice would punish him twice more than his uncle for to have even had a mind of slapping his uncle and to do it, is the evil

Lol...chai.

"He set the trap and he fore planned". . So he remote control the elder to slap him abi?. .

Which justice will punish him "twice"..... your regular jungle justice system or which one because I know in saner climes no one would punish you for self defense.....so you're the one that's evil here with your consistently evil thoughts and justice system..... anyone that has at least a little conscience knows that justice isn't selective and shouldn't be denied.

I hope that one day people like you who fill up places of leadership and influence in this country will be replaced by better people so that we can move forward and catch up with the rest of the world.

The truth is Africans are entitled. The adults especially.

Though it happened decades ago, but I still remember it like it was yesterday. I attended a neighbour's event and my uncle was in attendance, and somehow we found ourselves on the same table. As educated as he was, (he's a lawyer) he chose nowhere else to embarrass me than right there in the party, in every one's hearing.

First, he wondered why I would attend that party. Then he ranted on about how I'll soon get pregnant by a random guy, how I'm a dunderhead and will sell pepper or soon become a tailor instead of going to school. He went on and on. Honestly, I wouldn't have minded him if I was anything close to everything he was saying. I have always been an introvert. I was a church girl through and through, I don't follow boys, I don't trouble my mum as an upcoming young lady, I was an 'A' student, I wrote my WAEC and JAMB once and I got admitted to the university on merit, I never wrote GCE or any of those other stuff so I wondered where he got his premise from. This is somebody who doesn't know Jack about me. He's never requested for my report card for a day. He didn't contribute to my upkeep at anytime.

His problem is, I was at that age when you are transiting from being a child to a young lady, that age when you start noticing a girl is transforming into a ravishing beauty...if I dey enter eye, the most he could have done, offer advice on how not to lose it with guys and all, but No, he chose to dehumanise me instead.

I didn't know how to fight back so I just left the party. Not until this thread now, I realised I hadn't forgiven him. I shut him out completely. I made sure we didn't see for more than two decades until last year at my grandma's burial. Even then, because of my aunt, his wife, who is a great aunt, I owed him just one word, "Good Afternoon" and I avoided him all through. He's lucky he has my aunt and his kids who are great also, that Grandma's burial would've been a payback day. I for show him shege promax cause I'm no longer the tiny, timid girl he bullied severally.

I can't fathom why African adults don't know how to mind their business. Always meddlesome in things that do not concern them. Arrrrgh!

placeofallure:
The truth is Africans are entitled. The adults especially.

Though it happened decades ago, but I still remember it like it was yesterday. I attended a neighbour's event and my uncle was in attendance, and somehow we found ourselves on the same table. As educated as he was, (he's a lawyer) he chose nowhere else to embarrass me than right there in the party, in every one's hearing.

First, he wondered why I would attend that party. Then he ranted on about how I'll soon get pregnant by a random guy, how I'm a dunderhead and will sell pepper or soon become a tailor instead of going to school. He went on and on. Honestly, I wouldn't have minded him if I was anything close to everything he was saying. I have always been an introvert. I was a church girl through and through, I don't follow boys, I don't trouble my mum as an upcoming young lady, I was an 'A' student, I wrote my WAEC and JAMB once and I got admitted to the university on merit, I never wrote GCE or any of those other stuff so I wondered where he got his premise from. This is somebody who doesn't know Jack about me. He's never requested for my report card for a day. He didn't contribute to my upkeep at anytime.

His problem is, I was at that age when you are transiting from being a child to a young lady, that age when you start noticing a girl is transforming into a ravishing beauty...if I dey enter eye, the most he could have done, offer advice on how not to lose it with guys and all, but No, he chose to dehumanise me instead.

I didn't know how to fight back so I just left the party. Not until this thread now, I realised I hadn't forgiven him. I shut him out completely. I made sure we didn't see for more than two decades until last year at my grandma's burial. Even then, because of my aunt, his wife, who is a great aunt, I owed him just one word, "Good Afternoon" and I avoided him all through. He's lucky he has my aunt and his kids who are great also, that Grandma's burial would've been a payback day. I for show him shege promax cause I'm no longer the tiny, timid girl he bullied severally.

I can't fathom why African adults don't know how to mind their business. Always meddlesome in things that do not concern them. Arrrrgh!

Just because you want to support evil, you now resorted to telling lies.

No uncle will attack you specifically, if he does not have your see finish story, especially one who is a lawyer.

Just say this case just reminded you of your uncle who embarrassed you with your shit.

Beremx:
guilty conscience made it seem as if he was talking about you. He didn't mention your name and you felt guilty. You now took the anger and slapped him.

How does a 40 year plus old snail look like?
can you show me?