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Poll: Will You Vote For A United Opposition Against President Bola Tinubu?
Yes I will - Whether The candidate is Obi or Atiku
33% (33 votes)
Yes I will - But only if the candidate is Peter Obi
34% (34 votes)
Yes I will - But only if the candidate is Atiku Abubakar
1% (1 vote)
No - I will vote for President Bola Tinubu
32% (32 votes)
This poll has ended |
| Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 8:24pm On Jan 11*. Modified: 10:02pm On Jan 11 |
Watch the voter numbers very closely: In 2011, Buhari polled about 12 million votes against Goodluck Jonathan.
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| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 8:27pm On Jan 11*. Modified: 8:45pm On Jan 11 |
What Nigerians need now is a united opposition, and I believe Peter Obi leading that opposition (with support from Atiku, Tambuwal, Kwankwaso, El Rufai and others) will defeat the political structure of APC based on propaganda and so substance. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 8:32pm On Jan 11 |
nfpmod seunI will like to see where people stand on this poll |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by ChirstFireAltar(m): 8:34pm On Jan 11 |
When you wake up from your nightmares, you will get back to reality. Tinubu till 2031 can't be stop by those your sponsors. Bookmark 🔖 and come back to it after the election to console yourself. givedemwotowoto: |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 8:39pm On Jan 11 |
ChirstFireAltar:Where will the votes come from? from sand or water? You think the votes for governors will transfer to Tinubu? Why didn't Sanwo Olu pull that off in 2023? I know the usual response is "that was 2023" and then hope that some rigging machinery exclusive to him will manifest. Tell me something new. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by kestolove95(m): 8:39pm On Jan 11 |
Tinubu till d world end |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by HacheNoire: 8:41pm On Jan 11 |
ChirstFireAltar:Louder please! Those at the back seat cannot hear! They are still daydreaming! |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 9:05pm On Jan 11 |
kestolove95:Why is he ruling from France? |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by slivertongue: 9:08pm On Jan 11 |
WILL DEFEAT TINUBU WILL DEFEAT TINUBU |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by SlavaUkraini: 1:48am On Jan 12 |
Atiku-Obi Ticket will send Jagaban parking out of the Aso Rock Villa anytime, anyday But Obidients don't want their master to be Atiku's running mate, not knowing that is a sure way for Obi to set his foot in the Presidency... |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by DoTheNeedful: 4:24am On Jan 12*. Modified: 9:38am On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:I doubt the understanding of some of you about Nigeria's political terrain. Head-to-head, Obi can never defeat BAT in 2027, as long as Zamfara, Kano, Sokoto, Katsina, Gombe, Bauchi, Borno, Kebbi, and so on, are part of Nigeria. There is no way citizens of those states would look away from a Muslim-Muslim ticket to vote for Obi. Lame as it might appear, it is the reality. Mind you, BAT will perform better in the South in 2027 than he did in 2023. The only presidential candidate that can break BAT in the North is a Northern Muslim. Therefore, if your obsession is kicking out Tinubu, the most realistic formula is Atiku-Obi or any other Northern Muslim presidential candidate running with Obi. The problem with that formula would be Obidients, who strongly believe Obi should be president. Many hard-core Obidients would kick against Obi being a VP candidate, and they may refuse to vote in the general election. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 4:32am On Jan 12 |
DoTheNeedful:Agbadorian don drop quote. What state in the core NW or NE have you lived in? |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by DoTheNeedful: 5:16am On Jan 12*. Modified: 8:02am On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:My brother, we don't need to call ourselves names. Let us analyze objectively. I don't see how Obi will win the 19 Northern states ahead of Tinubu. I am not saying this as a BAT supporter. It is what it is. Tribalism and Religion, even more than economic indices, factor significantly in how Nigerians vote. It has been like that before independence and it is still very present. It is the same reason Obi got 90% votes in the SE, Tinubu won the SW, and Atiku won the North despite the fact that Buhari (a Northerner) was just completing his eight years. That pattern is not peculiar to Nigeria, it is like that even in advanced democracies of the world. Obi deputizing Atiku is the best chance for dislodging Tinubu in 2027, and Obidients must be ready to support the ticket like they supported him in 2023. Afterall, it is not bad to deputize an 81-year-old president . There is little guarantee that Atiku would complete his presidency, if elected. So, Obi could still become president the Jonathan way. I feel bad typing this, but it is what it is. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by RichBoy247: 5:23am On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:Go and concentrate on your life |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by MarketDispatch: 7:48am On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:... If Inec Chairman can say Go to Court, that is the only person you need to win an Election |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by SixSeven: 8:01am On Jan 12 |
The problem with democracy in Africa is that the unpopular people are unwilling to accept that they are not the people's choice so they will scatter it for everyone if they don't have their way. Aren't they threatening us already in Lagos that it's APC or we harm you? Aren't they popular as they claim? Why are they afraid of elections? Because the truth is bitter. Look at what happened in Rivers state. Look at how someone said we should GRAB IT, SNATCH IT AND RUNAWAY WITH IT. Democracy is the voice of the people but the voice of the Satan is what these people want, not the voice of God. Politicians are also evil because even the military also need their help, the only difference is that military no de forgive. They want you to follow their own rules. Apes obey!! . Is Tinubu a popular president (elect)? No Did he win the election? Yes, according to INEC Is he the president today? Yes. I don't want to go too much into the details but I stand by my words. He wasn't a popular president. I asked AI to help write, so opinion is not mine and it doesn't mean the statements below are fullproof but they provide a good context Good question. It depends how you define “popular.” Here’s how Bola Tinubu (according to Independent National Electoral Commission — INEC) fares by objective results — and why many analysts argue that doesn’t necessarily mean “popular.”Here is the stats of the declared winners since 1999. Mr Bola Ahmed Tinubu was not a popular president elect Here is the brief, factual list of Nigeria’s presidential election winners since 1999, including each winner’s name and the percentage of valid votes they received. 1999 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 62.78% of valid votes. 2003 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 61.94% of valid votes. 2007 – Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: about 69.60% of valid votes. 2011 – Goodluck Jonathan: about 58.87% of valid votes. 2015 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 53.96% of valid votes. 2019 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 55.60% of valid votes. 2023 – Bola Ahmed Tinubu: about 36.6–37% of valid votes. A United opposition will defeat Tinubu before the election begins. With a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. There is no need to argue about that.
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| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Ivimmanuel: 8:15am On Jan 12 |
Anything the Opposition is doing Atiku should not be on the ballot please they must look for a suitable northener for VP |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Cmeo(m): 9:18am On Jan 12 |
Although everyone is not pleased with Tinubu Presidency, the truth of the matter is that he will win again in 2027. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Predictor3: 9:27am On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:Someone gave you his informed opinion without insult and the best you could do is call him names? This is one of the reasons Obi will not be taken seriously. His followers are too toxic. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Ttalk: 9:36am On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:Dont put the cart before the horse. You need to crack the problematic ticket of ADC first before thinking of it defeating Tinubu. Presently theres no partway to Peter Obi clinching the ADC ticket, that should be your worry that your Messiah will end up party less or ended up as a spare tyre to the Fulani hegemony |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 9:41am On Jan 12 |
DoTheNeedful:They all have seen that the Muslim Muslim tickets was just a deception. Obi/Elrufai ticket or Obi/kwankwaso will defeat Tinubu squarely rigging or no rigging |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 9:43am On Jan 12 |
Cmeo:How? |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by DoTheNeedful: 9:53am On Jan 12 |
OredoPikin2:The average illiterate Northerner with his transistor radio is far more politically aware that most of you. It was the reason they formed alliance with Zik, made him president, only for him to realize that he didn't have any executive power. The executive power resided with Tafawa Balewa, the prime minister. The average Northerner knows more than most of your Ph.D. holders in the South that the VP position is constitutionally empty, and it is only useful if the president die in office. So, you can't cajole them with some Obi/Elrufai, Obi/Kwankwaso ticket. Rather, you could get them with Atiku/Obi ticket. Some of you have a limited understanding of the political and electoral history of Nigeria. I am beginning to think I am arguing politics with some twenty-something-year-olds here. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Cmeo(m): 11:20am On Jan 12 |
OredoPikin2:In exact way politics are played and won in Nigeria, Africa and global space. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 11:59am On Jan 12 |
Predictor3:His first line was disrespectful and that was exactly the reason I gave it back to him. You people are so toxic that you don’t even recognize toxicity anymore. Even he himself didn’t know his first line was disrespectful. Be guided. I’m sure you don’t even know that calling someone toxic is disrespectful. You can make your comment without calling names, else you’ll get it back. Agbadorians are incredible! Chief toxicity already playing victim. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 12:49pm On Jan 12 |
DoTheNeedful:you could have made your point without resorting to emotional/personal attacks. now, the same northerners know that this is the turn of the south and they are expected to wait for at least 2031. same Northerner saw Atiku on the ballot in 2023 but gave Tinubu 5 plus million votes. an average Northerner is not politically wise but rather control by their elites and imams in the mosque. whatever they tell them to do is what they will do unlike south here that everyone has a mind of his own. El rufai and Kwankwaso control a large portion of the north votes even more than Atiku. El Rufai for instant is well respected along their religion and political space Kwankwaso has a cult followers stop using emotion to argue politics and come clean with facts so we can discuss like normal people. Atiku/Obi ticket wont fly anywhere |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Predictor3: 12:52pm On Jan 12 |
givedemwotowoto:
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| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 12:52pm On Jan 12*. Modified: 2:19pm On Jan 12 |
DoTheNeedful:Oh brother, did I call names? I didn’t mean to. Check the opening line of your original comment, I’m sure you didn’t mean to be that disrespectful lol. We’re all analyzing objectively. Back to topic. Since you’re trying to be objective, tell me how you came about that conclusion that Obi can’t win 19 Northern states. Only the god of politics can conclude with “it is what it is”, for the rest of us, we give our reasons, we’re all random nairalanders, if you must make a statement, back it up respectfully like I backed my original post with numbers. Make some effort with reasons, that’s the only way you’re taken seriously. I consider empty blanket statements as disrespectful and unserious. To your other comment. “Obidients must this and that…. 81-year old this and that.”. I see the snide, condescending remarks lol. I’m sure you meant no offense with your unsolicited opinion lol. As an Agbadorian, don’t you think giving your opponents such “wisdom” will hurt your candidate? And I quite agree with you. Tribalism, prejudice and religion plays a big role, but it’s certainly not the reason Peter Obi won Lagos, Abuja, Rivers. Actually, tribalism is the reason Tinubu supporters, who earned the name Agbadorians, flash the tribal card everywhere because that’s exactly how they play politics and that’s how they want everyone else to play politics. They hate and envy Igbos, and hate their own brothers for voting the best candidate in the 2023 election. They claim tribalism when Peter Obi won the SE, but it wasn’t tribalism when OBJ won Ojukwu in all 5 SE states in 2003, and it wasn’t when Yar’adua won in 2007 when Buhari had Igbo running mate. But that’s not surprising because the same group praised Buhari as the best for 8 whole years, then condemned him as the worst soon after he left office. People who would do that will say and do anything at your back while smiling to your face. So I understand why they’re trying to push the tribal card everywhere. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 12:56pm On Jan 12 |
Cmeo:i thought we are practicing democracy where the people get to decide who rule them. i hope you guys learn from history how tyrants like Tinubu usually end |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Cmeo(m): 1:13pm On Jan 12 |
OredoPikin2:That's was what everyone believed until Donald Trump came out to tell us how he was rigged out in 2021 US Presidential election. |
| Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 2:02pm On Jan 12 |
Cmeo:Lolz Same people he accused of rigging him out of power when they were outsiders couldn't rig themselves in when they had the power with them Make it make sense |
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. There is little guarantee that Atiku would complete his presidency, if elected. So, Obi could still become president the Jonathan way. I feel bad typing this, but it is what it is.