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Poll: Will You Vote For A United Opposition Against President Bola Tinubu?

Yes I will - Whether The candidate is Obi or Atiku 33% (33 votes)
Yes I will - But only if the candidate is Peter Obi 34% (34 votes)
Yes I will - But only if the candidate is Atiku Abubakar 1% (1 vote)
No - I will vote for President Bola Tinubu 32% (32 votes)
This poll has ended

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Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op):
Watch the voter numbers very closely:

In 2011, Buhari polled about 12 million votes against Goodluck Jonathan.

When Tinubu joined forces with him in 2015 and 2019, he polled 15 million votes in each election. This suggests that Tinubu’s contribution was around 2 to 3 million votes, which is consistent with his own performance in the SW over the years.

Fast forward to 2023:

Tinubu won about 2.2 million votes in the SW. This number is consistent again.

Nationwide, he won about 8.7 million votes. The rest 6.5 million votes likely came from Buhari.

Here’s the important point:

Buhari had a core base of about 12 million.
Only about half of that bloc voted for Tinubu in 2023.
So 6 million Buhari supporters did not vote for Tinubu, even when he had Buhari’s backing.

If Buhari couldn’t convince them to vote for Tinubu when he was still in power, with key governors backing Tinubu, what makes anyone think Tinubu can convince them now?

Meanwhile:

Inflation and hardship are worse than ever. What people see is extreme poverty, insecurity, a President that doesn't even stay in the country, and doesn't respond to anything.

That’s why a united opposition with a single credible message of change, especially Atiku and Obi working together, can (and will) win.

Most Nigerians are tired of Tinubu's government. That's the truth.

Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op):
What Nigerians need now is a united opposition, and I believe Peter Obi leading that opposition (with support from Atiku, Tambuwal, Kwankwaso, El Rufai and others) will defeat the political structure of APC based on propaganda and so substance.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 8:32pm On Jan 11
nfpmod seun
I will like to see where people stand on this poll
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by ChirstFireAltar(m): 8:34pm On Jan 11
When you wake up from your nightmares, you will get back to reality.

Tinubu till 2031 can't be stop by those your sponsors.

Bookmark 🔖 and come back to it after the election to console yourself.

givedemwotowoto:
Watch the voter numbers very closely:
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 8:39pm On Jan 11
ChirstFireAltar:
When you wake up from your nightmares, you will get back to reality.

Tinubu till 2031 can't be stop by those your sponsors.

Bookmark 🔖 and come back to it after the election to console yourself.
Where will the votes come from? from sand or water? You think the votes for governors will transfer to Tinubu? Why didn't Sanwo Olu pull that off in 2023?

I know the usual response is "that was 2023" and then hope that some rigging machinery exclusive to him will manifest. Tell me something new.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by kestolove95(m): 8:39pm On Jan 11
Tinubu till d world end
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by HacheNoire: 8:41pm On Jan 11
ChirstFireAltar:
When you wake up from your nightmares, you will get back to reality.

Tinubu till 2031 can't be stop by those your sponsors.

Bookmark 🔖 and come back to it after the election to console yourself.
Louder please!

Those at the back seat cannot hear!

They are still daydreaming!
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 9:05pm On Jan 11
kestolove95:
Tinubu till d world end
Why is he ruling from France?
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by slivertongue: 9:08pm On Jan 11
WILL DEFEAT TINUBU
WILL DEFEAT TINUBU
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by SlavaUkraini: 1:48am On Jan 12
Atiku-Obi Ticket will send Jagaban parking out of the Aso Rock Villa anytime, anyday

But Obidients don't want their master to be Atiku's running mate, not knowing that is a sure way for Obi to set his foot in the Presidency...
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by DoTheNeedful:
givedemwotowoto:
What Nigerians need now is a united opposition, and I believe Peter Obi leading that opposition (with support from Atiku, Tambuwal, Kwankwaso, El Rufai and others) will defeat the political structure of APC based on propaganda and so substance.
I doubt the understanding of some of you about Nigeria's political terrain.

Head-to-head, Obi can never defeat BAT in 2027, as long as Zamfara, Kano, Sokoto, Katsina, Gombe, Bauchi, Borno, Kebbi, and so on, are part of Nigeria. There is no way citizens of those states would look away from a Muslim-Muslim ticket to vote for Obi. Lame as it might appear, it is the reality. Mind you, BAT will perform better in the South in 2027 than he did in 2023.

The only presidential candidate that can break BAT in the North is a Northern Muslim. Therefore, if your obsession is kicking out Tinubu, the most realistic formula is Atiku-Obi or any other Northern Muslim presidential candidate running with Obi. The problem with that formula would be Obidients, who strongly believe Obi should be president. Many hard-core Obidients would kick against Obi being a VP candidate, and they may refuse to vote in the general election.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 4:32am On Jan 12
DoTheNeedful:
I doubt the understanding of some of you about Nigeria's political terrain.

Head-to-head, Obi can never defeat BAT in 2027, as long as Zamfara, Kano, Sokoto, Katsina, Gombe, Bauchi, Borno, Kebbi, and so on, are part of Nigeria. There is no way citizens of those states would look away from a Muslim-Muslim ticket to vote for Obi. Lame as it might appear, it is the reality. Mind you, BAT would perform better in the South in 2027 than he did in 2023.

The only presidential candidate that can break BAT in the North is a Northern Muslim. Therefore, if your obsession is kicking out Tinubu, the most realistic formula is Atiku-Obi or any other Northern Muslim presidential candidate running with Obi. The problem with that formula would be Obidients, who strongly believe Obi should be president. Many hard-core Obidients would kick against Obi being a VP candidate, and they may refuse to vote in the general election.
Agbadorian don drop quote. What state in the core NW or NE have you lived in?
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by DoTheNeedful:
givedemwotowoto:
Agbadorian don drop quote. What state in the core NW or NE have you lived in?
My brother, we don't need to call ourselves names. Let us analyze objectively.

I don't see how Obi will win the 19 Northern states ahead of Tinubu. I am not saying this as a BAT supporter. It is what it is.

Tribalism and Religion, even more than economic indices, factor significantly in how Nigerians vote. It has been like that before independence and it is still very present. It is the same reason Obi got 90% votes in the SE, Tinubu won the SW, and Atiku won the North despite the fact that Buhari (a Northerner) was just completing his eight years. That pattern is not peculiar to Nigeria, it is like that even in advanced democracies of the world.

Obi deputizing Atiku is the best chance for dislodging Tinubu in 2027, and Obidients must be ready to support the ticket like they supported him in 2023. Afterall, it is not bad to deputize an 81-year-old president angry. There is little guarantee that Atiku would complete his presidency, if elected. So, Obi could still become president the Jonathan way. I feel bad typing this, but it is what it is.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by RichBoy247: 5:23am On Jan 12
givedemwotowoto:
Watch the voter numbers very closely:
Go and concentrate on your life
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by MarketDispatch: 7:48am On Jan 12
givedemwotowoto:
Watch the voter numbers very closely:
... If Inec Chairman can say Go to Court, that is the only person you need to win an Election
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by SixSeven: 8:01am On Jan 12
The problem with democracy in Africa is that the unpopular people are unwilling to accept that they are not the people's choice so they will scatter it for everyone if they don't have their way. Aren't they threatening us already in Lagos that it's APC or we harm you? Aren't they popular as they claim? Why are they afraid of elections? Because the truth is bitter.

Look at what happened in Rivers state.

Look at how someone said we should GRAB IT, SNATCH IT AND RUNAWAY WITH IT.

Democracy is the voice of the people but the voice of the Satan is what these people want, not the voice of God.
Politicians are also evil because even the military also need their help, the only difference is that military no de forgive. They want you to follow their own rules. Apes obey!!

. Is Tinubu a popular president (elect)? No
Did he win the election? Yes, according to INEC
Is he the president today? Yes.

I don't want to go too much into the details but I stand by my words. He wasn't a popular president. I asked AI to help write, so opinion is not mine and it doesn't mean the statements below are fullproof but they provide a good context

Good question. It depends how you define “popular.” Here’s how Bola Tinubu (according to Independent National Electoral Commission — INEC) fares by objective results — and why many analysts argue that doesn’t necessarily mean “popular.”

✅ What the INEC results show

In the 2023 presidential election, Tinubu was declared winner with ≈ 8.79 million votes.

That was 36.6 % of valid votes cast.

He also met the constitutional requirement of obtaining 25% in at least two-thirds of the states — making his victory legally valid under Nigeria’s rules.


So by the letter of the law and the official results, yes — he won and became president.

⚠️ Why “winning” doesn’t necessarily equal “popular support”

His 36.6% vote share is the lowest for a winning presidential candidate since Nigeria’s return to democracy in 1999.

That means a majority of voters (≈ 63 %) voted for other candidates — so more Nigerians preferred someone else.

Some analysts say that because only a relatively small proportion of eligible voters actually cast ballots — and only about a third of those voted for him — the mandate could be considered weak.

Also: the election was widely described as contested, with reports of irregularities, voter-intimidation, and lack of transparency (e.g. delays in uploading polling unit results).


🧮 What “popularity” might really mean

Whether Tinubu is “popular” overall depends on what benchmark you use:

If “popular” = “legally elected as per rules,” yes.

If “popular” = “enjoys broad support among Nigerians,” the data suggests that’s not clearly the case — more people voted against him than for him, and his vote share was historically low.

Also, regional, ethnic, religious, and socio-economic divides matter: vote patterns show that support was not uniform nationwide, which complicates claims of a unified “popular” mandate.



---

Bottom line: According to INEC, Tinubu is the duly elected president. But by the measure of strong popular endorsement — broad, majority-wide support — the 2023 results don’t provide compelling evidence that he’s very popular.

If you like — I can check recent polls or approval-rating data (2024–2025) to see how public perception has changed since the election. Want me to fetch that now?
Here is the stats of the declared winners since 1999. Mr Bola Ahmed Tinubu was not a popular president elect

Here is the brief, factual list of Nigeria’s presidential election winners since 1999, including each winner’s name and the percentage of valid votes they received.

1999 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 62.78% of valid votes.

2003 – Olusegun Obasanjo: about 61.94% of valid votes.

2007 – Umaru Musa Yar’Adua: about 69.60% of valid votes.

2011 – Goodluck Jonathan: about 58.87% of valid votes.

2015 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 53.96% of valid votes.

2019 – Muhammadu Buhari: about 55.60% of valid votes.

2023 – Bola Ahmed Tinubu: about 36.6–37% of valid votes.


A United opposition will defeat Tinubu before the election begins. With a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide margin. There is no need to argue about that.

Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Ivimmanuel: 8:15am On Jan 12
Anything the Opposition is doing Atiku should not be on the ballot please they must look for a suitable northener for VP
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Cmeo(m): 9:18am On Jan 12
Although everyone is not pleased with Tinubu Presidency, the truth of the matter is that he will win again in 2027.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Predictor3: 9:27am On Jan 12
givedemwotowoto:
Agbadorian don drop quote. What state in the core NW or NE have you lived in?
Someone gave you his informed opinion without insult and the best you could do is call him names? This is one of the reasons Obi will not be taken seriously. His followers are too toxic.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Ttalk: 9:36am On Jan 12
givedemwotowoto:
What Nigerians need now is a united opposition, and I believe Peter Obi leading that opposition (with support from Atiku, Tambuwal, Kwankwaso, El Rufai and others) will defeat the political structure of APC based on propaganda and so substance.
Dont put the cart before the horse. You need to crack the problematic ticket of ADC first before thinking of it defeating Tinubu.

Presently theres no partway to Peter Obi clinching the ADC ticket, that should be your worry that your Messiah will end up party less or ended up as a spare tyre to the Fulani hegemony
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 9:41am On Jan 12
DoTheNeedful:
I doubt the understanding of some of you about Nigeria's political terrain.

Head-to-head, Obi can never defeat BAT in 2027, as long as Zamfara, Kano, Sokoto, Katsina, Gombe, Bauchi, Borno, Kebbi, and so on, are part of Nigeria. There is no way citizens of those states would look away from a Muslim-Muslim ticket to vote for Obi. Lame as it might appear, it is the reality. Mind you, BAT will perform better in the South in 2027 than he did in 2023.

The only presidential candidate that can break BAT in the North is a Northern Muslim. Therefore, if your obsession is kicking out Tinubu, the most realistic formula is Atiku-Obi or any other Northern Muslim presidential candidate running with Obi. The problem with that formula would be Obidients, who strongly believe Obi should be president. Many hard-core Obidients would kick against Obi being a VP candidate, and they may refuse to vote in the general election.
They all have seen that the Muslim Muslim tickets was just a deception.
Obi/Elrufai ticket or Obi/kwankwaso will defeat Tinubu squarely rigging or no rigging
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 9:43am On Jan 12
Cmeo:
Although everyone is not pleased with Tinubu Presidency, the truth of the matter is that he will win again in 2027.
How?
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by DoTheNeedful: 9:53am On Jan 12
OredoPikin2:
They all have seen that the Muslim Muslim tickets was just a deception.
Obi/Elrufai ticket or Obi/kwankwaso will defeat Tinubu squarely rigging or no rigging
The average illiterate Northerner with his transistor radio is far more politically aware that most of you. It was the reason they formed alliance with Zik, made him president, only for him to realize that he didn't have any executive power. The executive power resided with Tafawa Balewa, the prime minister.

The average Northerner knows more than most of your Ph.D. holders in the South that the VP position is constitutionally empty, and it is only useful if the president die in office. So, you can't cajole them with some Obi/Elrufai, Obi/Kwankwaso ticket. Rather, you could get them with Atiku/Obi ticket.

Some of you have a limited understanding of the political and electoral history of Nigeria. I am beginning to think I am arguing politics with some twenty-something-year-olds here.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Cmeo(m): 11:20am On Jan 12
OredoPikin2:
How?
In exact way politics are played and won in Nigeria, Africa and global space.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op): 11:59am On Jan 12
Predictor3:
Someone gave you his informed opinion without insult and the best you could do is call him names? This is one of the reasons Obi will not be taken seriously. His followers are too toxic.
His first line was disrespectful and that was exactly the reason I gave it back to him. You people are so toxic that you don’t even recognize toxicity anymore. Even he himself didn’t know his first line was disrespectful. Be guided.

I’m sure you don’t even know that calling someone toxic is disrespectful. You can make your comment without calling names, else you’ll get it back.

Agbadorians are incredible! Chief toxicity already playing victim.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 12:49pm On Jan 12
DoTheNeedful:
The average illiterate Northerner with his transistor radio is far more politically aware that most of you. It was the reason they formed alliance with Zik, made him president, only for him to realize that he didn't have any executive power. The executive power resided with Tafawa Balewa, the prime minister.

The average Northerner knows more than most of your Ph.D. holders in the South that the VP position is constitutionally empty, and it is only useful if the president die in office. So, you can't cajole them with some Obi/Elrufai, Obi/Kwankwaso ticket. Rather, you could get them with Atiku/Obi ticket.

Some of you have a limited understanding of the political and electoral history of Nigeria. I am beginning to think I am arguing politics with some twenty-something-year-olds here.
you could have made your point without resorting to emotional/personal attacks.

now, the same northerners know that this is the turn of the south and they are expected to wait for at least 2031.
same Northerner saw Atiku on the ballot in 2023 but gave Tinubu 5 plus million votes.
an average Northerner is not politically wise but rather control by their elites and imams in the mosque. whatever they tell them to do is what they will do unlike south here that everyone has a mind of his own.
El rufai and Kwankwaso control a large portion of the north votes even more than Atiku.
El Rufai for instant is well respected along their religion and political space
Kwankwaso has a cult followers

stop using emotion to argue politics and come clean with facts so we can discuss like normal people.
Atiku/Obi ticket wont fly anywhere
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Predictor3: 12:52pm On Jan 12
givedemwotowoto:
His first line was disrespectful and that was exactly the reason I gave it back to him. You people are so toxic that you don’t even recognize toxicity anymore. Even he himself didn’t know his first line was disrespectful. Be guided.

I’m sure you don’t even know that calling someone toxic is disrespectful. You can make your comment without calling names, else you’ll get it back.

Agbadorians are incredible! Chief toxicity already playing victim.

Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by givedemwotowoto(op):
DoTheNeedful:
My brother, we don't need to call ourselves names. Let us analyze objectively.

I don't see how Obi will win the 19 Northern states ahead of Tinubu. I am not saying this as a BAT supporter. It is what it is.

Tribalism and Religion, even more than economic indices, factor significantly in how Nigerians vote. It has been like that before independence and it is still very present. It is the same reason Obi got 90% votes in the SE, Tinubu won the SW, and Atiku won the North despite the fact that Buhari (a Northerner) was just completing his eight years. That pattern is not peculiar to Nigeria, it is like that even in advanced democracies of the world.

Obi deputizing Atiku is the best chance for dislodging Tinubu in 2027, and Obidients must be ready to support the ticket like they supported him in 2023. Afterall, it is not bad to deputize an 81-year-old president angry. There is little guarantee that Atiku would complete his presidency, if elected. So, Obi could still become president the Jonathan way. I feel bad typing this, but it is what it is.
Oh brother, did I call names? I didn’t mean to. Check the opening line of your original comment, I’m sure you didn’t mean to be that disrespectful lol. We’re all analyzing objectively.

Back to topic. Since you’re trying to be objective, tell me how you came about that conclusion that Obi can’t win 19 Northern states. Only the god of politics can conclude with “it is what it is”, for the rest of us, we give our reasons, we’re all random nairalanders, if you must make a statement, back it up respectfully like I backed my original post with numbers. Make some effort with reasons, that’s the only way you’re taken seriously. I consider empty blanket statements as disrespectful and unserious.

To your other comment. “Obidients must this and that…. 81-year old this and that.”. I see the snide, condescending remarks lol. I’m sure you meant no offense with your unsolicited opinion lol. As an Agbadorian, don’t you think giving your opponents such “wisdom” will hurt your candidate?

And I quite agree with you. Tribalism, prejudice and religion plays a big role, but it’s certainly not the reason Peter Obi won Lagos, Abuja, Rivers. Actually, tribalism is the reason Tinubu supporters, who earned the name Agbadorians, flash the tribal card everywhere because that’s exactly how they play politics and that’s how they want everyone else to play politics. They hate and envy Igbos, and hate their own brothers for voting the best candidate in the 2023 election.

They claim tribalism when Peter Obi won the SE, but it wasn’t tribalism when OBJ won Ojukwu in all 5 SE states in 2003, and it wasn’t when Yar’adua won in 2007 when Buhari had Igbo running mate. But that’s not surprising because the same group praised Buhari as the best for 8 whole years, then condemned him as the worst soon after he left office. People who would do that will say and do anything at your back while smiling to your face. So I understand why they’re trying to push the tribal card everywhere.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 12:56pm On Jan 12
Cmeo:
In exact way politics are played and won in Nigeria, Africa and global space.
i thought we are practicing democracy where the people get to decide who rule them.

i hope you guys learn from history how tyrants like Tinubu usually end
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by Cmeo(m): 1:13pm On Jan 12
OredoPikin2:
i thought we are practicing democracy where the people get to decide who rule them.

i hope you guys learn from history how tyrants like Tinubu usually end
That's was what everyone believed until Donald Trump came out to tell us how he was rigged out in 2021 US Presidential election.
Re: Why Atiku–Obi Couldn’t Defeat Buhari, But Will Defeat Tinubu in 2027 by OredoPikin2: 2:02pm On Jan 12
Cmeo:
That's was what everyone believed until Donald Trump came out to tell us how he was rigged out in 2021 US Presidential election.
Lolz
Same people he accused of rigging him out of power when they were outsiders couldn't rig themselves in when they had the power with them
Make it make sense
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