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Emeskhalifa:
Pls do, coz this misconception don dey too much

Okay. If she earns £200 a day and she works 4 times a week that's £800 a week and £3200 a month right. Her tax and NI would be around £790, meaning her take home is £2410. As a single earning that I believe her spendings should be according to her earnings. A shared apartment outside London average at £450 bills included. With £200 feeding is more than Okay Leaving her with £1760 .it's not bad at all

osothermal:
Okay. If she earns £200 a day and she works 4 times a week that's £800 a week and £3200 a month right. Her tax and NI would be around £790, meaning her take home is £2410. As a single earning that I believe her spendings should be according to her earnings. A shared apartment outside London average at £450 bills included. With £200 feeding is more than Okay Leaving her with £1760 .it's not bad at all

Thank you for the explanation.

People be making it look like relocating to UK is entirely a bad move

I dey look that advice "reinvest back home" with side eye

Reinvest in a place that Nigerian politicians both elected and appointed are determined to destroy?

justwise:
You are ignorantly calling me a liar? Let me repeat this again, in the UK you don't pay TV licence if you don't watch live program, you do not pay TV licence if you only watch recorded or repeated progs.

Okay, who pays TV Licence in the UK...

(the TV licence website is down today, so we are stuck with AI summaries)

Who Needs a Licence
Anyone watching live TV: This means any programme as it's broadcast on TV, radio, or online.
Anyone using BBC iPlayer: Even if you don't watch live TV, using BBC iPlayer requires a licence.
Any device: Covers TVs, computers, laptops, tablets, phones, games consoles, etc..
Businesses: If staff, customers, or guests watch live TV or use iPlayer on premises

Only if you watch On demand tv...ie non live tv..eg streaming services...and radio.

SO, you got a tv, it is assumed you watch live shows like BBC Breakfast, sky news, news channels, even sports.

60% of Nigerians bypass paying for power supply? You still wonder Nigeria is crewed up? You have the gut to compare cost of living in Nigeria to that of the UK?

Here you sound like the guy who says he has to own a car, even though his montly income is N20000.

If most people don't pay or underpay for the power they use, where are the power companies going to get the money to fix or improve power?

Oga, you really are very funny. No one can pay N400 for a car, which is what you are advocating in essence.

Standard of living doesn't respect cost of things. COst of something doesn't respect your pocket or how much one earns. Otherwise millions would be underpaid, and nothing would be made at all. It costs money to give everyone good power, and it must be paid for.

You don't pay council tax in Nigeria but you pay income tax and got nothing from it.

Again, 10 million out of 230 million pay income tax. You thnk that's enough to cover a whole ass country like Nigeria?

Right.

Nigeria is not making enough money as an oil producing nation? Nigeria is not making enough money but your politicians earns more than politicians in the UK?

This is the funniest joke of the lot you tell here.

There is a reason why most of us believe that the Jerry Rawlings solution should be applied to corrupt politicans here. It is not just that they are stealing, they are stealing from a broke nation

We also produce 1.4 million bpd. That yields somewhere around 50-100 billion dollars annually. The UK's NHS costs, annually, nearly 300 billion dollars.

So, you want us to provide healthcare like UK's NHS for a population larger than the UK by far on earnings that are one third of what is needed for the UK'\s NHS alone?

Oga, you support Tinubu's borrowing agenda. Say it out loud and don't lie.

So if you don't pay tax or hate paying one ...why are you expecting to enjoy benefits that comes from taxes?

[/quote]How do you expect revenue from 10 million people in tax to cover 230 million people, plus oil revenue that is scanty to do same, without borrowing, plus the stealing tha thappens because most of you refuse to call gofment to account?

Oga, don't argue with me. You know I am right, but you don't like the truth because you think I am telling you YOU are responsible for Nigeria's problems. I am not, and you know it.

ayoncox:
You are earning almost same amount a person will earn for similar job in Nigeria based on exchange rate calculation. And in Nigeria your earnings might not be taxed but in UK, but it's not that bad sha

Which kain talk be dis bro? Did you say almost same amount? Can you place the figures together please? Is it like a bricklayer in Nigeria earns 600k while that of UK earns 600 pounds, or what bikonu? I don´t get.

i wonder how people reason in this country, before comparing nigeria with uk, are we paying thesame tax,or is our currency thesame t

Kingsley34:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXBIs-lYvbo

In this eye-opening video, I visit a real UK building site, carry heavy blocks, mix cement, and chat with bricklayers to find out what they ACTUALLY earn in just 8 hours!
General labourer (feeding blocks): £150/day ≈ ₦290,000–₦300,000+ (at current rates!)
Beginner bricklayer: £200/day ≈ ₦380,000+ Naira!
Compare that to typical Nigerian bricklayer pay (₦5,000–₦20,000/day) — the difference is massive! Is japa worth it? 💭 (Remember: UK has taxes, high bills & living costs — but the raw earnings are wild!)
This is raw, on-site truth — no cap! 🔥

If you're thinking of moving abroad for better pay in construction, drop your thoughts below

Compare Nigeria with Senegal, Kenya, Rwanda, Namibia, Ivory Coast etc first before you jump to UK.

If you are desperate to prove stupid points but need help then go ahead and check GDP-related data so you debate facts not emotions & wild imaginations.

Menial jobs pays well in UK, that's why am equipping all my children, while they school there, they can work at the same time

Jerryblaq:
Before you start ....on this update
Remember the bills upon bills u have to pay in UK for survival.
The lady might end up not saving enough after all the stress that she may have subjected herself to

no build in Nigeria Abi?

ayoncox:
You are earning almost same amount a person will earn for similar job in Nigeria based on exchange rate calculation. And in Nigeria your earnings might not be taxed but in UK, but it's not that bad sha

which bricklayer is making 300k per day in Nigeria

KaLuCh:
Una and rubbish talk. You get taxed, yeah, but that's roughly 15 percent of your income with 12570 pounds as untaxable income. The remaining 85 percent is yours to decide how you spend. If you can't save, it is not the government, it is you.

Una go dey compare nonsense. There is not a single individual living legally in the UK that will be compared to a Nigerian counterpart.

oga tan is not 15%

fasho01:
Obviously a click bait. One can't dress this way in any site without safety gears

You're on point 👉

nairalanda1:
Haha, no.

As an example, if you have a TV in your house, in Nigeria, you pay nothing to the government, in the UK, you pay a TV Licence.
Also, you can spend as much as 30 pounds monthly for power supply for a one room house..that's 60000 naira.
Then there is council tax, etc.

do you know how many appliances in that 1 room?
You think you don't pay tax in Nigeria? What do you think police do at check points? Bills are the same. But more importantly after the bills they build mansions in Nigeria while Nigerians no even see work to do in the first place

Babaflenjor:
100% only few people will see it this way, 99% will just follow the story without looking into the technical part of the post. Dress like this on a construction site in UK ah well...

You can't blame them ,they will probably think the way our bricklayers dress here in Nigeria is the same in the Uk or advanced climes

nairalanda1:
Haha, no.

As an example, if you have a TV in your house, in Nigeria, you pay nothing to the government, in the UK, you pay a TV Licence.
Also, you can spend as much as 30 pounds monthly for power supply for a one room house..that's 60000 naira.
Then there is council tax, etc.

There's actually also a TV License tx in Nigeria. It's just being enforced yet. Wike tried to do it in FCT sometime last year but got resisted and piped down.

It may not be too long before FG remembers it again and decide to drive full implementation. Living in Nigeria is actually expensive when fully considered. its jus that u can do so without some things that are considered neccesiities in the first world. But that living without thwm is why Nigeria's general life expectancy is way lower than in these saner countries.

e..g there are more articulate and coherent 80 yr olds in the UK than in nNigeria... not that nigerians dont live to be 80+ its that the proportion is lesser and even those that do, a lot of them lose their mind and mental acuity by that time.

MIKOLOWISKA:
do you know how many appliances in that 1 room?
You think you don't pay tax in Nigeria? What do you think police do at check points? Bills are the same. But more importantly after the bills they build mansions in Nigeria while Nigerians no even see work to do in the first place

I've explained on this thread why tax revenues are low in Nigeria.

Also, I didn't defend corruption, so take your complaints about it elsewhere

Thanks

Kingrshd3:
If u want it to stable u pay more na 😂

That's not an issue .

Same people abuse d government for tarrif hike of band A that light is 247 oo

U can't satisfy the citizens.
That's just it

Have you not heard people pay for band A & still not have 17hrs light in a fay

kafeii123:
There's actually also a TV License tx in Nigeria. It's just being enforced yet. Wike tried to do it in FCT sometime last year but got resisted and piped down.

It may not be too long before FG remembers it again and decide to drive full implementation. Living in Nigeria is actually expensive when fully considered. its jus that u can do so without some things that are considered neccesiities in the first world. But that living without thwm is why Nigeria's general life expectancy is way lower than in these saner countries.

e..g there are more articulate and coherent 80 yr olds in the UK than in nNigeria... not that nigerians dont live to be 80+ its that the proportion is lesser and even those that do, a lot of them lose their mind and mental acuity by that time.

There is no TV licence in Nigeria then

Also life in the UK is expensive. My saying that doesn't excuse bad government in Nigeria.

Finally our country is in a mess because we rely on oil , not on industrial goods and services we make. And we have very poor tax uptake.

And at no where did I defend corruption

ayoncox:
You are earning almost same amount a person will earn for similar job in Nigeria based on exchange rate calculation. And in Nigeria your earnings might not be taxed but in UK, but it's not that bad sha

I'm not a fan of japa but you're wrong on this. People wouldn't be rushing abroad if the pay or what is left after the bills are the same.
My younger brother was struggling when he was in Nigeria despite working with one of the Nigeria's leading commercial banks. He travelled out and his living conditions dramatically improved and even completed his own building from the scratch within three years without even having a land before.
Let's stop lying to ourselves, the economy, the wages and the left over after deductions and bills are not the same

erad:
No bricklayer in the UK will be allowed to dress that way for work ever with no safety gear at all. The contractors won't even dare because they know the lawsuit awaiting them incase of any accident.

So I'll take this with a pinch of salt.

fasho01:
Obviously a click bait. One can't dress this way in any site without safety gears

She didn't claim she does building construction labourer in the content, the headline is just misleading.

I visit a real UK building site, carry heavy blocks, mix cement, and chat with bricklayers to find out what they ACTUALLY earn in just 8 hours!

She visited the site, helped/interacted and found out their pays

maasoap:
She didn't claim she does building construction labourer in the content, the headline is just misleading.

She visited the site, helped/interacted and found out their pays

If it's a real contractor, they won't allow you help without safety gear on. Seems you don't know how lawsuits ruin lives and businesses over there.

maasoap:
I'm not a fan of japa but you're wrong on this. People wouldn't be rushing abroad if the pay or what is left after the bills are the same.
My younger brother was struggling when he was in Nigeria despite working with one of the Nigeria's leading commercial banks. He travelled out and his living conditions dramatically improved and even completed his own building from the scratch within three years without even having a land before.
Let's stop lying to ourselves, the economy, the wages and the left over after deductions and bills are not the same

You are not understanding what I am saying yet, I am not saying the other side is not better , what I am saying is that because of devaluation of currency what a person earning 2.5 million naira is not different from someone earning 20 million naira, the only difference between there and here is structure ours is more dysfunctional than theirs because they have structures and have welfare in their plan anyone there will thrive

ayoncox:
You are not understanding what I am saying yet, I am not saying the other side is not better , what I am saying is that because of devaluation of currency what a person earning 2.5 million naira is not different from someone earning 20 million naira, the only difference between there and here is structure ours is more dysfunctional than theirs because they have structures and have welfare in their plan anyone there will thrive

I understood you, clearly. Let me also say my point again, there is underpayment of labour hours in Nigeria, forget about the exchange rate. Labour market is not regulated in Nigeria and exploitation of cheap labour is too rampant and that's why labourers/workers are being given peanuts as wages and salaries.
Imagine a labourer being paid 5,000 naira for a whole day! What can such amount do?

erad:
If it's a real contractor, they won't allow you help without safety gear on. Seems you don't know how lawsuits ruin lives and businesses over there.

But you clearly saw her, I believe what she did was for short video clip, and she didn't do anything that could result in injury. So, I don't understand what the argument is all about again

osothermal:
Okay. If she earns £200 a day and she works 4 times a week that's £800 a week and £3200 a month right. Her tax and NI would be around £790, meaning her take home is £2410. As a single earning that I believe her spendings should be according to her earnings. A shared apartment outside London average at £450 bills included. With £200 feeding is more than Okay Leaving her with £1760 .it's not bad at all

Does that person look like someone on site? That's just content.

Labourers jobs on construction are not constant first of all n no way they could earn 200 for 8hrs.

Lastly for single person to save 1700 on minimum wage is not feasible unless they don't pay taxes.



Or do u save 1700 on minimum wage.. Have u done thay before? Because that's around close to what i and my spouse save with both working full time and some time overtime. I mean combine savings

004gist:
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I don't understand ur 12570 untaxed.. Because the government only tax 20% each month from my pay slip. The only time i got a refund was my first year which is the 12570 u talking about right?

Like say u enter uk free of charge.

We have people spending 40 to 50 million to UK right now on study visa.



So tell me how u gonna recover that money with just 1 and 6 months post study? This should be the conversation now that sponsorship is almost not in existence or u think uk will give u visa as a laborer?

It means that if you earns £20,000 a year, £12,570 will not be taxed, only £7,430 will be taxed at 20%

004gist:
Does that person look like someone on site? That's just content.

Labourers jobs on construction are not constant first of all n no way they could earn 200 for 8hrs.

Lastly for single person to save 1700 on minimum wage is not feasible unless they don't pay taxes.



Or do u save 1700 on minimum wage.. Have u done thay before? Because that's around close to what i and my spouse save with both working full time and some time overtime. I mean combine savings

Calm down bro. I calculated based on the data provided be it real or content. Now to your assertion that it's impossible for a single person to save 1700 monthly, people save more bro. I have a friend in Newcastle who is here alone . His family is in Nigeria. This guy works as a support worker. He works constantly 300hrs a month and it's a 12 hours shift .His take home after tax is 3200 + Now thus guys stays in a shared apartment in Sunderland, paying £350 bill inclusive. If you really reside in uk. Tell me how much will go to other expenditures. You only know your own people are working and cashing out doing massive things back home . Or is it Uber drivers that make over 4k monthly ?

maasoap:
But you clearly saw her, I believe what she did was for short video clip, and she didn't do anything that could result in injury. So, I don't understand what the argument is all about again

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

maasoap:
I understood you, clearly. Let me also say my point again, there is underpayment of labour hours in Nigeria, forget about the exchange rate. Labour market is not regulated in Nigeria and exploitation of cheap labour is too rampant and that's why labourers/workers are being given peanuts as wages and salaries.
Imagine a labourer being paid 5,000 naira for a whole day! What can such amount do?

You are actually right, it's a west African thing and it's manmade, the cause is poor Human Development Index, West African countries having the lowest in the wordl

Jerryblaq:
Before you start ....on this update
Remember the bills upon bills u have to pay in UK for survival.
The lady might end up not saving enough after all the stress that she may have subjected herself to

Everybody I know living in UK is doing well

nairalanda1:
Mein Gott! Why are you lying so badly? Tv Licence is mandatory for eveyrone in the UK. Even for foreigners living there temporalilty for studies and so forth. It's only IF You don't have a TV that you don't pay.




Okay..
60% of nigerians on meter bypass it
40% Overall of nigerians don't pay
20% of nigerians pay a cost reflective tarrif. the rest of those who pay underpay or pay subsidised rates, which gofment has difficulty paying for subsides on
That's why discos ripoff consumers like overcharging unmetered customers, and doing estimated billing. They are losing so much money due to price controls that things are messed up.



And do you pay council tax plus income tax in Nigeria? Council tax in the UK can be between 180-200 pounds...monthly Or,345000-390000 naira monthly?

Most of us don't do above, and we want UK level of schools, streetlight, steet cleaning, and the list goes on?

Are you dreaming?


Where is the benefit when only 10 million people pay out of 230 million, and tax to gdp is below even that of Niger republic?

You are like the husband that gives his wife 200 naira to cook a pot of goat meat and chicken peppersoup that should last one month!

(I am not defending any useless PBAT government, or APC Or PDP or obi or atiku or buhari...I am just telling you reality as it is. Good things cost a lot of effing money. Nigeria is not making enough money, that is why your government is a mess, and why corruption must be fought at all costs!)

Ask yourself, if UK has the same level of corruption like Nigeria.

osothermal:
Calm down bro. I calculated based on the data provided be it real or content. Now to your assertion that it's impossible for a single person to save 1700 monthly, people save more bro. I have a friend in Newcastle who is here alone . His family is in Nigeria. This guy works as a support worker. He works constantly 300hrs a month and it's a 12 hours shift .His take home after tax is 3200 + Now thus guys stays in a shared apartment in Sunderland, paying £350 bill inclusive. If you really reside in uk. Tell me how much will go to other expenditures. You only know your own people are working and cashing out doing massive things back home . Or is it Uber drivers that make over 4k monthly ?

It always end up with a friend.
I asked again have u ur self been able to save 1700 every month??
Tell that guy to post his pay slip.