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It serves him right , Alaafin has been revelling in unwarranted superiority context in this modern civilization where the roles of Obas are nowhere to be found in the constitution.
Olubadan is far below Alaafin in the traditional context but political and geographical influences have turned the tide so Alaafin better stop those lopsided historical tirade

RichBoy247:
King pass King, you cannot compare an ex-governor to a former Yahoo boy from Canada

An engineer in Manitoba Canada is now a yahoo....

Please be guided with your ignorant outburst

S4un:
History has it that Okanbi probably died early. Obalufon 1, a key figure in the early Ife empire succeeded Oduduwa. He wasn't his biological son.

Eventually, Oduduwa's biological grandson Oranmiyan returned to Ife and became Ooni.

True. Oranmiyan was the first Alaafin of Oyo and eventually returned to Ife to become Ooni.

ExplorerReturns:
I am Igbo so I won't claim to be an expert in Yoruba history. But from the little history I know should the alaffin of oyo not be the highest stool in Yoruba land? I know of the great oyo empire that stretched far and wide. I have never heard of ife empire or Ibadan empire. I believe that Ibadan was under the control of the alaffin so olubadan naturally should be a subject of the alaffin. If this was the 16th century the olubadan would be beheaded for this disrespect. The alaffin was a good king like Xerxes of persia

The so-called Oyo Empire is history as written by the white man. And Oyo empire itself became famous only because they had great warriors who were fighting wars and conquered some additional territories. But seniority among Yoruba Obas is not about military strength.
Even at that, none of the Yoruba kingdoms could ever wage war against Ile-Ife because that is sacred their source and other kingdoms would rise against any kingdom that wages war against Ile-Ife.
There is no sensible Yoruba man or woman that would ever say the Alaafin is higher than Ooni in terms of seniority. Only ignorant people o would make that silly mistake.

femi4:
Alaafin n wahala 24/7

Respect is earned not given

The fact is that the Olubadan is an elderly man while the Alafin is a young man. The Olubadan may feel insulted that the young man is demanding a handshake from an elderly man like him.

Old men acting like little kids. These class of people destroyed Nigeria

Tecno66:
The fact is that the Olubadan is an elderly man while the Alafin is a young man. The Olubadan may feel insulted that the young man is demanding a handshake from an elderly man like him.

It is very disrespectful for the Alaafin to sit down and stretch out his hand to shake the Olubadan while he (Olubadan) was on his feet.
In Yoruba culture, he should have found a way to greet the Olubadan behind closed doors, and not to stretch out his hands like that in public!

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

Ooni was the High Priest of ile-ife and over the years came to be revered as a priest-king.

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

Where did you get all these crap you wrote?

Shikena:
See all of them commenting up and down on Obas who are playing games but little interest in finding solution to real issues within their society.

Lol Nigerians have since lost interest in real issues o....long time ago!

We're now in the era of entertainment of any sort.

Hmmmm. That one co cern two of them o

Se egbe baba e ni Oba Ladoja nse ni?

ExplorerReturns:
I am Igbo so I won't claim to be an expert in Yoruba history. But from the little history I know should the alaffin of oyo not be the highest stool in Yoruba land? I know of the great oyo empire that stretched far and wide. I have never heard of ife empire or Ibadan empire. I believe that Ibadan was under the control of the alaffin so olubadan naturally should be a subject of the alaffin. If this was the 16th century the olubadan would be beheaded for this disrespect. The alaffin was a god king like Xerxes of persia

We all know the truth but some truths may be uncomfortable.
Same with you Igbos, some children moved abroad ages ago and established new base but their family house in the village still remained. If your village Dibia is asked to oversee your family house, does that make him and his descendants the lawful owners and leaders of your lineage? Even if Dibia's offsprings decided to cut and join history and tales by moonlight to divert the truth, it will continue to hook them for neck forever. Dibia na Dibia.
Just leave our people with abracadabra. We know each other very well

You really tried but if you have time you can do your research about Ibadan town, they are warrior. Fought for Yoruba lands. Different warriors settled in Ibadan and they have their own way of ruling, Ibadan has 4 different palace, one of the Palace is Ade Oyo palace. Oba Ibikunle is the warrior his was using 2 lions to fight. One in his right and the other one in the left side, he has his own palace too, if youre going to Agbeni market you will pass his palace and his status is their till tomorrow. When civilisation came they choose one King to be their head which is the throne that Oba Adewolu Ladoja is. Alafin cannot do that in the olding days because their king is Warrior (Balogun). Ibadan people dont joke with their king.

ExplorerReturns:
I am Igbo so I won't claim to be an expert in Yoruba history. But from the little history I know should the alaffin of oyo not be the highest stool in Yoruba land? I know of the great oyo empire that stretched far and wide. I have never heard of ife empire or Ibadan empire. I believe that Ibadan was under the control of the alaffin so olubadan naturally should be a subject of the alaffin. If this was the 16th century the olubadan would be beheaded for this disrespect. The alaffin was a god king like Xerxes of persia

This Alaafin self his own is too much, what stops him from small stand up and then shake him? This is a former governor of the state too for God sake. I don't blame Olubadan o.

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Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

You are mumu. Oduduwa was the Ooni

success1smyn:
I know. I wanted to blame the Olubadan but I know who the alaafin is that's why I wrote that.

He's new on the throne and wants to assert influence na

Forumobserver12:
I don't know why there's increase in rivalry among the Oba's lately, I hope they realized that their subjects are looking up to them...

Everything was cool and normal until we have new Aláàfin.

Amalekki:
We all know the truth but some truths may be uncomfortable.
Same with you Igbos, some children moved abroad ages ago and established new base but their family house in the village still remained. If your village Dibia is asked to oversee your family house, does that make him and his descendants the lawful owners and leaders of your lineage? Even if Dibia's offsprings decided to cut and join history and tales by moonlight to divert the truth, it will continue to hook them for neck forever. Dibia na Dibia.
Just leave our people with abracadabra. We know each other very well

Oranmiyan proved he was the son of The Source and not an impostor; that is why he abandoned the inferior throne of Alaafin of Oyo (which he founded) to seek the superior throne of Ooni of Ife (as a true grandson of Oduduwa).
Anyway, there are always mischief and trouble makers in every family, lineage, kingdom, who always fight whatever they cannot have or cannot become.
People like Alaafin and his supporters are free to make up stories and tell lies that make them feel important and happy with themselves.

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

there's no doubt your head was upside down 👇 while you wrote this rubbish, soonest you will start seeing spirit and eventually in the long run..run sotay u go run marrrd

FreeStuffsNG:
Kabiyesi Ladọja is older than his father. He should consider that

Wow

That is very good, the Makinde selected Aalafin should be placed in his place.
Since he became king he has been rude to those he isn’t suppose to be rude, so this is a welcome development.

Whatever the case is, this is not good for the optics. They are custodians of our culture, tradition, values, and ethos. This public show of grudges and infighting doesn’t send any good message to the people they are leading. They can both do better.

Again, it’s time for those who think they are presiding over a dead empire to wake up to reality. There is no Oyo empire anywhere again. There is no Alaafin of Yoruba land anywhere in the world today. Owoade is Alaafin of Oyo Ago Oja and no where else. Those pushing him to be looking for trouble all over the place are just setting him up for problem and eventual failure. It’s time to desist.

I dont rate the two of them. What did they bring to civilization?? The only true kingship in the whole world is the English stool. English kings brought Western civilization and Christianity to Africa

Tales by moonlight by Dibia's people

mikeapollo:
Oranmiyan proved he was the son of The Source and not an impostor; that is why he abandoned the inferior throne of Alaafin of Oyo (which he founded) to seek the superior throne of Ooni of Ife (as a true grandson of Oduduwa).
Anyway, there are always mischief and trouble makers in every family, lineage, kingdom, who always fight whatever they cannot have or cannot become.
People like Alaafin and his supporters are free to make up stories and tell lies that make them feel important and happy with themselves.

otipoju:
Ooni was the High Priest of ile-ife and over the years came to be revered as a priest-king.

Hmmm the dress style also points in that direction 👌

otipoju:
Ooni was the High Priest of ile-ife and over the years came to be revered as a priest-king.

Don't let Dibia's people hear that. Royalty stool is sweeter than high priest sacrifice offering job. Oranmiyan's descendants in Oyo are the one's trying to open fowl yansh, why can't they just play along for the sake of global peace?

otipoju:
Ooni was the High Priest of ile-ife and over the years came to be revered as a priest-king.

Ooni has always been the King of Ile-Ife, and he plays an additional role as the representative of all the Yoruba gods on earth, as chief priest

otipoju:
Ooni was the High Priest of ile-ife and over the years came to be revered as a priest-king.

Ooni has always been the ruler (King) of Ile-Ife, and he plays an additional role as the representative of all the Yoruba gods on earth, as chief priest.

Amalekki:
Tales by moonlight by Dibia's people

As a true son, I would not describe the authentic history of my tribe (or any tribe) as "tales by moonlight''.
I wouldn't use my left hand to show the direction to my father's house!