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MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is where we differ because we are OBEDIENT to the lamb but as for worship it belongs only to the true God! John 17:3
That is what OBEISANCE to the lamb means to us!🙂

immaculatesense:
Means to u? You people have rewritten your own scriptures to suit you?
You translated the Bible from a language to English and other languages na.
Tell us the word for Worship and Obeisance in that original language you translated them from, let us check.
IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT AN ASSIGNMENT TO.DO?
NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself.

If you are one of the worshipers Jesus it's OK we aren't worshiping Jesus he is our fellow worshiper of the same father and God! John 20:17

immaculatesense:
But the host of heaven worshipped both the father and the Lamb who sit upon the throne na.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote the highlighted in the Bible?

immaculatesense:
But the host of heaven worshipped both the father and the Lamb who sit upon the throne na.

immaculatesense:
Shey you go rest if I qouto am.
As you no know Bible and u no sabi read yourself until your organization releases statement. OYA TAKE.
Revelation 5:13-14
[13]And then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea. They sang:
“Blessing and honor and glory and power
    belong to the one sitting on the throne
    and to the Lamb forever and ever.”
[14]And the four living beings said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped the Lamb.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i asked you to quote in any version of your choice!

immaculatesense:
You no sabi read? Did I tell you I quoted anywhere? Wasn't that a statement that captured different verses that I later quoted for you?
Oya explain the passage I quoted for you in ur own Bible to prove you OBEISANCE.
I go come ask you how you pay Obeisance and how you pay worship.
First explain wetin the 24 elders did to the lamb first.
Explain wetin the 24 elders did for the Lamb.
Explain wetin the 24 elders did for the Lamb.

I bet you cannot explain it to fit your Obeisance, because the next question will be "How do you pay worship then? Tell us.

MaxInDHouse:
And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.” Revelation 5:13

Our salvation hings on the knowledge of two persons according to Jesus himself! John 17:3

immaculatesense:
Why you stop?
You no quote VERSE 14 na. Why you stop at verse 13.
WHY YOU DEY FEAR?
Let me use your JW Bible, I get the soft copy. I go quote am and you go do the explanation.
OYA EXPLAIN VERSE 14, NA UNA BIBLE I QUOTE O WEY USE WORSHIP.
LET ME HEAR WHAT YOU GAT TO SAY.

JW Bible (Revelation 5:13-14
13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.”
14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

MaxInDHouse:
Worshiped who?🙂
Jesus said his father is his God and our God {John 20:17} so if verse 14 said they worshiped who do they worship?🙂

immaculatesense:
Trying to evade. Explain verse 13 and 14. Simple. If you don't know, come clean and say it make I help you explain am.

MaxInDHouse:
There is only one true God says Jesus {John 17:3} so if you're confused due to a Bible verse all you need to do is think (meditate) by comparing what other verses say not picking up out of context a verse that never explicitly said what you want to imply.

That is why i asked you to quote a verse that says "everyone should worship both the father and the lamb" that you can never ever find throughout the Bible that is why you are trying to tie your belief to this verse and ọmọ it's not working!🙂

immaculatesense:
Another deflection.
But they both worship the father and the lamb sitting on the throne na. Abi na you want separate the father from the lamb now ni?
I QUOTED FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES. EXPLAIN YOU SCRIPTURES NA. E HARD YOU?

MaxInDHouse:
When it comes to worship automatically the father and son are separated since worship only belongs to the true God!🙂

immaculatesense:
Ahhhhh...this guy. You don cast.
Last last you separated them.
I HAIL YOU OH!!!
TUALE.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course worship separates the father from the son nah!

Since worship only belongs to the father! Deuteronomy 6:4🙂

immaculatesense:
Where was the separation in Revelation 5:13-14?
YOU DID THE SEPARATION BY YOURSELF IN YOUR MIND RIGHT.

MaxInDHouse:
What we do is having the knowledge of the two because it means our salvation {John 17:3} but when it comes to worship only one of them deserves to be worshiped! Deuteronomy 6:4

That is ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE of God's word not following the crowd.

If i ask you to mention the name of your church where the two are worshiped so that we can compare the activities with that of Jehovah's Witnesses who only worship the father you will run away.

Why?

Because those claiming worshipers of Jesus are confused people not organized!🙂

immaculatesense:
Can you remind me of the name of the Apostles' church again sef...I don forget o.
I think in the Bible the name they were called was Jehovah Witness abi...help me confirm abeg.

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Name the only true God started calling His true worshipers {Isaiah 65:15} after Satan polluted the group name inhabitants of Antioch gave us in the first century. Act 11:26🙂

immaculatesense:
Where was the separation in Revelation 5:13-14?
YOU DID THE SEPARATION BY YOURSELF IN YOUR MIND RIGHT.

immaculatesense:
Another deflection.
But they both worship the father and the lamb sitting on the throne na. Abi na you want separate the father from the lamb now ni?
I QUOTED FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES. EXPLAIN YOU SCRIPTURES NA. E HARD YOU?

immaculatesense:
Can you remind me of the name of the Apostles' church again sef...I don forget o.
I think in the Bible the name they were called was Jehovah Witness abi...help me confirm abeg.

immaculatesense:
Why you stop?
You no quote VERSE 14 na. Why you stop at verse 13.
WHY YOU DEY FEAR?
Let me use your JW Bible, I get the soft copy. I go quote am and you go do the explanation.
OYA EXPLAIN VERSE 14, NA UNA BIBLE I QUOTE O WEY USE WORSHIP.
LET ME HEAR WHAT YOU GAT TO SAY.

JW Bible (Revelation 5:13-14
13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.”
14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

"Worshipped the Lamb" is not in any Greek manuscript,the NLT translators added that.


Bishop kingsley, a Trinitarian said Jesus was NOT worshipped in Revelation 5:14.
That is the reason NWT rendered verse 14 "worshipped."
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

immaculatesense:
New King James trying to evade worship? Are you new to Bible history? Why was the New King James version written differently from the King James? Was it not to make it simpler for people to understand? Worship was broken down to mean falling down or bowing down.
When the Devil asked Jesus to fall down and worship him, was the devil not demanding worship from Jesus if he fell down to worship? Why didn't Jesus just bow down and say it is just bowing down and not worship. [b ]When you fall and bow down to anyone or image, it is worship. Such is meant for Elohim (Spirit beings (plural) with God's delegation) alone.

You still have not told us the Greek of Worship and Obeisance so we can check the difference[/b].

Janosky:
According to you
"Devil asked Jesus to fall down and worship him, was the devil not demanding worship from Jesus if he fell down to worship? Why didn't Jesus just bow down and say it is just bowing down and not worship".

You said the Devil requested for two things: 'bow down' & worship.

That explains the difference..
Or

According to your claim "bowing down is worship" .
Do you agree that the men in the screenshot worshipped the monarch ?

Janosky:
Bishop kingsley, a Trinitarian said Jesus was NOT worshipped in Revelation 5:14.
That is the reason NWT rendered verse 14 "worshipped."
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

Janosky:
Did Jesus quoted Isaiah the prophet @ Matt 12:15-18 that Jesus is Chosen servant of Jehovah God ?
Yes.
What name did Jehovah God call his chosen servants @ Isaiah 43:10 ( ASV), 2 Chronicles 7:14 "my people bearing my name" ?
Yes,Jehovah's witnesses.
Did the apostles agreed they were bearing God's name?
Yes, Peter said so, Acts 15:14-18, he learnt from the prophet.

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Name the only true God started calling His true worshipers {Isaiah 65:15} after Satan polluted the group name inhabitants of Antioch gave us in the first century. Act 11:26🙂

Janosky:
Nah so indeed .
The disciples confirmed they were chosen as the people bearing God's name, Acts 15:14-18.

immaculatesense:
Show me Jehovah's Witnesses in that Acts 11:26 na. Because I dey look for Jehovah Witness in the below and I can't see.
Acts 11:26.
26 After he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year they assembled with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.

Isaiah 65:15
15 You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name;

MaxInDHouse:
Sebi the group name (CHRISTIANS) you people found in the Bible you have defamed claiming thousands of different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are denominations under the same God?

Well that's the secret because the true God waited until Jesus returned to separate true Christianity from falsehood so that pure worship is restored back before God began calling us by that new group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

For your information that name was first pronounced in the year 1931 and from that time honest hearted individuals are seeing that this organization is the true religion that should bear that name "Christians"
That's why you can't mention the name of your church because you don't know any reputable group to mention!🙂