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ajalawole:
who is alaafin to jagaban. How many people can he draw for jagaban. You forget olubadan was a former governor, a sen and house of rep member. Who is alaafin. When it comes to oyo, jagaban would rather go for soun of Ogbomosho.... That soun can even control pep in oyo town itself.

Stop day dreaming dude.

Amalekki:
Stop day dreaming dude.

so jagaban will choose alaafin over olubadan because he made seyi kini kan kini kan.

Shikena:
See questions o
A more intelligent question would be who Seyi Makinde is aligned with, and the political moves around Okanlomo title. Stay on read-only mode and keep learning. On what Alaafin thrive on, sacked kingdom is common with those who managed to build huge kingdoms. It's not for peasants. The history can never be erased and you could see the implication with children of Baales rewriting history today to attach relevance to their humble history. Empire no be your mate

Oh I’m engaging a pikin, sorry.

Tinubu is not so daft to leave an old time friend, Ladoja whose coronation he attended and of very high electoral value (11 LG) for a novice, Owoade with far less electoral value (~4LG) whose only relationship was giving Seyi Tinubu a chieftancy title so he could have a crumb from him.
Since the coronation, have you seen Seyi associating with the title in the public unlike the Stepmother, Yeye Asiwaju Oodua?
If Alaafin is that important, Tinubu would attend his coronation.

Heroes rise, heroes fall. Same as kingdoms and empires.

ajalawole:
so jagaban will choose alaafin over olubadan because he made seyi kini kan kini kan.

Please stop being a clown. Olubadan or Baale of Ibadan is not the issue here.

ajalawole:
alaafin is just finding problem for himself. The chairmanship rotation has been pass to law, he won't say be wasn't aware.

Why can't you be sincere for once and call the governor a public liar too?

Amotolongbo:
Oh I’m engaging a pikin, sorry.

Tinubu is not so daft to leave an old time friend, Ladoja whose coronation he attended and of very high electoral value (11 LG) for a novice, Owoade with far less electoral value (~4LG) whose only relationship was giving Seyi Tinubu a chieftancy title so he could have a crumb from him?

Heroes rise, heroes fall. Same as kingdoms and empires.

Ok, keep engaging on

This Aláàfin na pain in the neck

Nauttyprof:
Why can't you be sincere for once and call the governor a public liar too?

the chairmanship issue has been settled by the late alaafin and even pass to law. Is /2yr tenure which is rotational between the 3kings. If other Kings don't know about it will they attend. Why is it always about the alaafin.

Amotolongbo:
Oh I’m engaging a pikin, sorry.

Tinubu is not so daft to leave an old time friend, Ladoja whose coronation he attended and of very high electoral value (11 LG) for a novice, Owoade with far less electoral value (~4LG) whose only relationship was giving Seyi Tinubu a chieftancy title so he could have a crumb from him.
Since the coronation, have you seen Seyi associating with the title in the public unlike the Stepmother, Yeye Asiwaju Oodua?
If Alaafin is that important, Tinubu would attend his coronation.

Heroes rise, heroes fall. Same as kingdoms and empires.

see leave those guys. They though because alaafin made seyi tinubu kini kan kini kan tinubu will leave his old friend for one Canada spoilt brat.

dalongjnr:
Our traditional institution and stools are being bastardised and the people sees 👀 it as normal?
The traditional rulers will wish for military ruler because of how they are being played ▶️ by the governors.

Hehehehe

The same military that removed a Sultan of Sokoto?

latestsunny:
The attention of the Alaafin's Palace has been drawn to a statement credited to His Excellency, Governor Seyi Makinde that he consulted with the three traditional rulers in the State, the Alaafin, the Olubadan and the Soun of Ogbomoso on the rotational Chairmanship of the State Council of Obas and Chiefs.

The Palace hereby wants to state clearly that there was no time that His Imperial Majesty, the Alaafin of Oyo , Oba Engineer Abimbola Akeem Owoade 1, held any meeting with either the State Governor or any of the two traditional rulers mentioned above.

Also the Alaafin did not tell the Governor or make a categorical statement on his endorsement of rotational Chairmanship among the the three traditional rulers in the State.

The position of the Alaafin and the Entire Oyo Community on the general issue of the,State, Council of Obas,and Chiefs has been enunciated in a Memo delivered to His Excellency by the Oyo Council of Elders.

Signed

Bode Durojaiye,
Director of Media and Publicity to the Alaafin, Paramount Ruler of Oyo Kingdom and the Superior Head of Yorubaland.

They didn't have/need to consult him and in fact they absolutely should not have, because he was sure to oppose the arrangement

Meanwhile he's just another random Oba in Yoruba land, given that the military capacity on top of which he based his claims of pre-eminence is no more in existence

Alaafin should take several seats already...himself and his entire people are in actual fact basically homeless, they are tenants on that land they occupy because the whole place belongs to Ago-Oja

yarimo:
Consulted as who ? Alaafin should know just one statement of his removal from the state governor is enough and nothing will happen

He should go and find out how powerful the governor of a state is from the former Emir of Kano. Governors have the power to depose you at anytime

Sirianese:
They didn't have/need to consult him and in fact they absolutely should not have, because he was sure to oppose the arrangement

Meanwhile he's just another random Oba in Yoruba land, given that the military capacity on top of which he based his claims of pre-eminence is no more in existence

Alaafin should take several seats already...himself and his entire people are in actual fact basically homeless, they are tenants on that land they occupy because the whole place belongs to Ago-Oja

Ago Oja is just a tiny camp in today's Isale Oyo. Ago means temporary camp in Yoruba language.

Alaafin is Oranmiyan. His power has always been there.

Amotolongbo:
Oh I’m engaging a pikin, sorry.

Tinubu is not so daft to leave an old time friend, Ladoja whose coronation he attended and of very high electoral value (11 LG) for a novice, Owoade with far less electoral value (~4LG) whose only relationship was giving Seyi Tinubu a chieftancy title so he could have a crumb from him.
Since the coronation, have you seen Seyi associating with the title in the public unlike the Stepmother, Yeye Asiwaju Oodua?
If Alaafin is that important, Tinubu would attend his coronation.

Heroes rise, heroes fall. Same as kingdoms and empires.

Yes, Oyo has 4 LGs on paper but 4 out of 5 LGs in Ogbomoso axis are firmly Alaafin-centric. Most LGs in Oke-Ogun are firmly Alaafin-centric. It's not as simple as you think.

Even inside Ibadan, a significant percentage are Alaafin-centric. The current Alaafin has family house in Ibadan, coming from Lawani Agogo-Ija line.

ajalawole:
the chairmanship issue has been settled by the late alaafin and even pass to law. Is /2yr tenure which is rotational between the 3kings. If other Kings don't know about it will they attend. Why is it always about the alaafin.

I really do not understand why we defend blindly and fail to address issues as they are. Why would a governor lie publicly when he never consulted the 3 kings involved?

Nauttyprof:
I really do not understand why we defend blindly and fail to address issues as they are. Why would a governor lie publicly when he never consulted the 3 kings involved?

Where did you see that he didn't consult the 3 kings involved? Two out of the three kings attended the ceremony. Only one refused claiming he was not informed. So how did the others hear about it to attend the meeting?

EmperorIsaac:
Those seats are just symbolic and at best, a waste of State resources, if you asked me. The man should know that ceremonial positions are constitutionally subsumed under the authority of State governments.

Even lower. Its under the local government

Amotolongbo:
Oluwo must have given the Alaafin a very wrong orientation or something to sniff.

I believe this script was written long before now and and being played.
Makinde stylishly left out Gbadegesin who is well connected and understands the politics so well from being the Alaafin. He brought in Owoade who is a novice and doesn’t have the resources to compete with the “big kings”. Owoade has been made a prawn.

Even me wey dey Canada, if dem call me to come and become king tomorrow, na to reason am ooo. E be like say something dey this our Canada wey dey make us misbehave when we come to Nigeria to be kings

muykem:
Alaafin should humble himself. He needs Ooni of ife for assistance.

Only one man dey fight the Soun, the Ooni, the Olubadan, the Oba Oyotunji, and now he is calling the Governor a liar and adding him as Enemy.
Same governor that went against the wish of the Oyo mesi to install Gbadegesin.

Praktikals1000:
Empire this, empire that. I get before no be property. Its like Italy (Roman empire) claiming superiority in todays modern age.

Even America will knock Britain on its head if they try to claim any empire kankan.

ariesbull:
Why is it that SW and their kings keep disturbing us everywhere here ..they should sort themselves out

I was just chatting with my Brother the other day. …..I have NEVER heard of Igwe of Owerri, Obi of abakaliki etc.

Doesn’t the East that prides itself on TRADITION have any visible King

My Brother said “ Those ppl are too stubborn to respect any elders”

Shocking!

ajalawole:
who is alaafin to jagaban. How many people can he draw for jagaban. You forget olubadan was a former governor, a sen and house of rep member. Who is alaafin. When it comes to oyo, jagaban would rather go for soun of Ogbomosho.... That soun can even control people in oyo town itself.

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Gbam..

greatseed:
He should go and find out how powerful the governor of a state is from the former Emir of Kano. Governors have the power to depose you at anytime

Even the Deji of Akure was deposed by Mimiko. The Deji begged so much to be reinstated but it fell on deaf ears.

Amotolongbo:
The governor doesn’t need Alaafin’s statement on endorsing the rotational chairmanship. Gomina n pe o, o lo n di ifa, ti ifa ba fo ire ti Gomina ba ni o fo ibi nko? (The governor tells you to come, you said you are consulting the oracle. If the oracle says yes but the governor says no, you get choice?)

@bolded, Baba don dey calm down, no more supreme leader of the Yoruba 😆😆

God bless you Ma'am on this matter.
Is Alafin- tying to be friendly or just antagonist?
Why can't we live and let live?
Is this quarrel that will make Oyo great State or is there anything bad in Rotation of leadership in Oyo Council?
All this ranchor Can Not Add Naira to them and they should All Work in harmony, afterall,they did not tell The Oyo People - that they come to be making Trouble!

latestsunny:
The attention of the Alaafin's Palace has been drawn to a statement credited to His Excellency, Governor Seyi Makinde that he consulted with the three traditional rulers in the State, the Alaafin, the Olubadan and the Soun of Ogbomoso on the rotational Chairmanship of the State Council of Obas and Chiefs.

The Palace hereby wants to state clearly that there was no time that His Imperial Majesty, the Alaafin of Oyo , Oba Engineer Abimbola Akeem Owoade 1, held any meeting with either the State Governor or any of the two traditional rulers mentioned above.

Also the Alaafin did not tell the Governor or make a categorical statement on his endorsement of rotational Chairmanship among the the three traditional rulers in the State.

The position of the Alaafin and the Entire Oyo Community on the general issue of the,State, Council of Obas,and Chiefs has been enunciated in a Memo delivered to His Excellency by the Oyo Council of Elders.

Signed

Bode Durojaiye,
Director of Media and Publicity to the Alaafin, Paramount Ruler of Oyo Kingdom and the Superior Head of Yorubaland.

Bode, tell Alaafin that Oyo Empire collapsed over a century ago. Therefore, he should embrace the new normal.

Kings are now political pawns?

Shikena:
Makinde already miscalculated.

Alaafin is fully aligned with Jagaban. This is just round 1 of a battle and Alaafins thrive on such battles historically. Is Makinde equipped to survive in one piece? Hope he consulted elders in his family house

And you think Tinubu has the time? Between Alaafin and Makinde, who do you think Tinubu needs more?

Shikena:
Yes, Oyo has 4 LGs on paper but 4 out 5 LGs in Ogbomoso axis are firmly Alaafin-centric. Most LGs in Oke-Ogun are firmly Alaafin-centric. It's not as simple as you think.

Even inside Ibadan, a significant percentage are Alaafin-centric. The current Alaafin has family house in Ibadan, coming from Lawani Agogo-Ija line.

The “Alaafin-centric LGs should have produced Oyo Governor if it’s as good as you said it now.

Can you imagine one boy who go hustle for Canada and Governor Seyi Makinde selects him to be. Traditional ruler within his state...the same boy is raising his shoulder for his boss...

The pride of this boy made him go hurt am...his competitors then will be firing this kind of discord between his boss and him...because he wasn't meant to be the next Alaafin in the first place...he was imposed on the people in his locality in Oyo State...

It should be aware that there is no role of traditional title in the Nigeria 1999 constitution...it wasn't expressly specified...traditional. Titles are exclusively a state matter (residual), so the state governor has the prerogative power to install and dethrone any traditional ruler in line with the process of its state.

This Akeem is too proud and insolent for my liking...when he was in Canada, I believe he was among those who were licking the feet of the Oyinbo in this office...but he thought he could usurp and bamboozle people because of the kangaroo nomination of his chieftaincy title... I am sure his days are numbered... Dasuki, the Sultan of Sokoto, was dethroned during the Abacha Era, and Sanusi, the Emir of Kano, was also dethroned...and heaven didn't fall....

Duplicated responsibilities between chiefs and elected officials is part of the reason development is hard
The traditional emirs in the Middle East are part of government
The kings in Europe are also part of government
In Africa the king or chief has a court and lower chiefs under him. All draw some form of funding from the people/govt.
Regular govt officials too have federal, state and local and all draw funds

The Bible says he who doesn’t have (by refusing to invest his talents), even the little he has will be taken away from him

That is the problem in black Africa