₦airaland Forum

chopnaira:
Even America will knock Britain on its head if they try to claim any empire kankan.

Na so

latestsunny:
The attention of the Alaafin's Palace has been drawn to a statement credited to His Excellency, Governor Seyi Makinde that he consulted with the three traditional rulers in the State, the Alaafin, the Olubadan and the Soun of Ogbomoso on the rotational Chairmanship of the State Council of Obas and Chiefs.

The Palace hereby wants to state clearly that there was no time that His Imperial Majesty, the Alaafin of Oyo , Oba Engineer Abimbola Akeem Owoade 1, held any meeting with either the State Governor or any of the two traditional rulers mentioned above.

Also the Alaafin did not tell the Governor or make a categorical statement on his endorsement of rotational Chairmanship among the the three traditional rulers in the State.

The position of the Alaafin and the Entire Oyo Community on the general issue of the,State, Council of Obas,and Chiefs has been enunciated in a Memo delivered to His Excellency by the Oyo Council of Elders.

Signed

Bode Durojaiye,
Director of Media and Publicity to the Alaafin, Paramount Ruler of Oyo Kingdom and the Superior Head of Yorubaland.

Alaafin is Alaafin over the people of Oyo town only and not beyond that. His influence and recognition is limited to his Oyo people. Ooni on the other hand is the Supreme and Spiritual head of the Yoruba race. He is a recognized and respected symbol of the source. Ooni is sacred.

tiger28:
I was just chatting with my Brother the other day. …..I have NEVER heard of Igwe of Owerri, Obi of abakaliki etc.

Doesn’t the East that prides itself on TRADITION have any visible King

My Brother said “ Those ppl are too stubborn to respect any elders”

Shocking!

Please which tradition?
The one given to them by the colonial leader or Ajayi Crowther?

Even when the colonial leader brought the indirect rule, Igbo had warrant officers instead of kings

Amotolongbo:
The governor doesn’t need Alaafin’s statement on endorsing the rotational chairmanship. Gomina n pe o, o lo n di ifa, ti ifa ba fo ire ti Gomina ba ni o fo ibi nko? (The governor tells you to come, you said you are consulting the oracle. If the oracle says yes but the governor says no, you get choice?)

@bolded, Baba don dey calm down, no more supreme leader of the Yoruba 😆😆

So sorry do you no traditions or you are new breeds


And you careless

Nauttyprof:
I really do not understand why we defend blindly and fail to address issues as they are. Why would a governor lie publicly when he never consulted the 3 kings involved?

this don't start from makinde. Oni of ife, oni aderemi was the permanent chairman till 1980 when osun was created.
Life is funny sha. The gospel truth is that in the old Oyo state, Ooni of Ife was the permanent chairman. It was Alaafin Adeyemi who instigated the then Olubadan to stage a protest for rotational chairmanship. I remember reading it in TELL magazine of old.

Ooni Sijuade boycotted the Council until Osun was created. After Osun was carved out, Alaafin Adeyemi suddenly remembered he should be permanent chairman of Oyo but he had shot himself in the foot with ote and abosi against Ooniirisa.

That's the origin of the rotation before u make comments. NONE of the old state monarchs doubted Ooniirisa permanent chairman until the jiggerypokery of 'iku baba yeye'. Now, how can any Alaafin demand for what his predecessor fought against? Always fear Karma ooo!

Alaafin Adeyemi orchestrated for rotational during the old oyo state when Ooni Sijuade was permanent chairman

Alaafin Owoade is now saying he doesn’t want rotational

Agreement is Agreement 🥰😍❤️

This new Alaafin has brought so much disrepute to the throne within the short period of his ascension. Ìgbẹ̀raga ló ń s’íwájú ìparun! In this day and age, you think you can force anyone to respect you—so funny! A young man who should be preoccupied with the development of his town and the Yoruba people as a whole is instead busy chasing clout around, seeking yẹyẹ authority over everybody!

I never knew I would at any time despise anything Oyo, but this new Alaafin has made me do so. He started with the Ooni. Can there ever be Oyo without Ile-Ife? He even threatened the Ooni of Ife—what an effrontery! He thought he could openly disrespect the Olubadan of Ibadan without any repercussions! Where are the Oyomesi?! Who are the people misadvising the new Alaafin? He needs to be urgently guided before he brings more disgrace to the stool with his arrogance, contempt, and what-have-you.
The Alaafin needs to understand that he cannot disrespect the Ooni without paying dearly for it. The Ooni is not just a king; he is a god. And Ile-Ife is not just another town in Yorubaland—it is our source.

I am neither from Oyo nor Osun State. I am a blue blood from Isale-Eko, an heir to the Eleko stool.

bewla:
So sorry do you no traditions or you are new breeds


And you careless

what is it saying?

Amotolongbo:
what is it saying?

ask ifa again


Because when you ask goggles

You ask ifa oyinbo
So ask ibile ifa

All these supremacy tussle between our kings in the Yorubaland should cease, what we need from them is cooperation with governments to make Yorubaland a foremost region in Nigeria in economics and commerce, education, first destination for the investors and make south west safe and secure.

bewla:
ask ifa again


Because when you ask goggles

You ask ifa oyinbo
So ask ibile ifa

afi mukaila na 😂

yarimo:
Consulted as who ? Alaafin should know just one statement of his removal from the state governor is enough and nothing will happen

A local government chairman can remove him.

Amotolongbo:
afi mukaila na 😂

Yeah that's me


Ask ifa all your problems will be solved

You try
I get nothing to hide that's my name

tiger28:
I was just chatting with my Brother the other day. …..I have NEVER heard of Igwe of Owerri, Obi of abakaliki etc.

Doesn’t the East that prides itself on TRADITION have any visible King

My Brother said “ Those ppl are too stubborn to respect any elders”

Shocking!

There is nothing like Igwe of Owerri they have Eze of owerri and they are there...they aren't noisy like the ones we have in SW

How many times have you heard of
Pere of Ijaw
Ovie of Urhobo
Obong of Calabar
Emir of Gwandu
Emir of Katsina
Igwe of Nnewi
Obi of Onitsha
Asagba of Asaba

Etc ... You rarely hear them, it's cos these kings are matured , educated and they focus on their duty

But in Yoruba land...it's one disgrace of king or another either one doesn't shake another or they are battling who is higher


Well... I don't blame them na the types of people they made kings ...


Everytime Yoruba a kings here and there .. disturbing us all!

Guestmale:
All these supremacy tussle between our kings in the Yorubaland should cease, what we need from them is cooperation with governments to make Yorubaland a foremost region in Nigeria in economics and commerce, education, first destination for the investors and make south west safe and secure.

It's becoming embarrassing... Others are laughing at the Yoruba

If you give them Oduduwa they will kill off themselves in less than a year from supremacy tussle

Dis you say foremost in education sir ?

MufasaLion:
Alaafin should get the hell out! Nobody cares about him or his position.

I was thinking they said that the average yoruba has respect for the elders !

Is this the respect?

Not

Shikena:
See questions o
A more intelligent question would be who Seyi Makinde is aligned with, and the political moves around Okanlomo title. Stay on read-only mode and keep learning. On what Alaafin thrive on, sacked kingdom is common with those who managed to build huge kingdoms. It's not for peasants. The history can never be erased and you could see the implication with children of Baales rewriting history today to attach relevance to their humble history. Empire no be your mate

Which empire are you really talking about? The dead and non-existent one or another one?

If not for Ibadan, would Yoruba land be exist as it's known today?

Your argument is akin to the UK wanting to claim superiority over the US just because of the dead British empire which once ruled the US.

ariesbull:
It's becoming embarrassing... Others are laughing at the Yoruba

If you give them Oduduwa they will kill off themselves in less than a year from supremacy tussle

Dis you say foremost in education sir ?

Yes I know that when it comes to education in Nigeria,yoruba has never been a push over but I still want us to maintain top position in education.

Amotolongbo:
Oh I’m engaging a pikin, sorry.

Tinubu is not so daft to leave an old time friend, Ladoja whose coronation he attended and of very high electoral value (11 LG) for a novice, Owoade with far less electoral value (~4LG) whose only relationship was giving Seyi Tinubu a chieftancy title so he could have a crumb from him.
Since the coronation, have you seen Seyi associating with the title in the public unlike the Stepmother, Yeye Asiwaju Oodua?
If Alaafin is that important, Tinubu would attend his coronation.

Heroes rise, heroes fall. Same as kingdoms and empires.

I have read your submission son this thread and I must I align with your thought process.
This current Alaafin is just not it for me. He keeps holding unto an empire that was long gone. Even the current land he is presently occupying belongs to the SOUN, because the old Oyo Ile was sacked by the Fulani during the illorin wars, but he keeps holding unto history like he is the Superior monarch in Yoruba land. If the Oyo Mesi gives him a Parrot's egg or empty calabash, will he commit suicide as tradition demands? But he wanst to hold on to history that is no more relevant

You need to inquire about this issue before passing comment. The State through the House of Assembly enacted a law that the Chairmanship of the State Traditional Council will be rotated between Alaafin of Oyo, Olubadan of Ibadan and Soun of Ogbomoso and it is the turn of the Olubadan now. Don't forget that the bill that led to the law was made public and subjected to various opinions and that Oyo Town and its environ has about four members in the House of Assembly. If the Alaafin could not stop the law from being enacted, why is fighting the execution now? If he is removed, nothing will happen.

AndroBlaze:
This Alaafin is very annoying, in fact extremely annoying.....

.....however, just the way I supported the Ooni in their tussle, I cannot support rewriting our properly handed down history of over 300-400 years and aceeding to anything that suggests the traditional ruler in Ibadan ( whose recent history and foundation is 100% known to all ) should take precedence over Alaafin ( whose predecessors almost singlehandedly united our very diverse peoples into one strong identity).

It should feel wrong to any traditionalist and the first Baale of Ibadanland would probably be ashamed of this.

Next thing you know you people will be saying the Lekki Kings (Oniru and Elegushi) should be the paramount rulers in Lagos State because both their territory and the Kings are richer.

Amalekki:
Ago Oja is just a tiny camp in today's Isale Oyo. Ago means temporary camp in Yoruba language.

Alaafin is Oranmiyan. His power has always been there.

Lol. He was sacked from Oyo Ile by the Fulani horde. If his power has always been there, he should go back to the original Oyo Ile nau. He and his people are tenants on the present land as it was given to the Alaafin when he fled from Oyo Ile

larryUG:
Lol. He was sacked from Oyo Ile by the Fulani horde. If his power has always been there, he should go back to the original Oyo Ile nau. He and his people are tenants on the present land as it was given to the Alaafin when he fled from Oyo Ile

You are just clowning around. To be a tenant there must be landlord, who is the landlord? If you are a bonafide Yoruba you should know Ago is not ownership. Oja was a citizen of Oyo empire with Ago in today's Isale Oyo. In Yoruba tradition and culture, they say Oba lo ni gbogbo ile. The land belongs to the king.

However, I understand some of you are only used to fabulous history like Oduduwa descending from the sky. You don't care, the end justifies the means

larryUG:
Lol. He was sacked from Oyo Ile by the Fulani horde. If his power has always been there, he should go back to the original Oyo Ile nau. He and his people are tenants on the present land as it was given to the Alaafin when he fled from Oyo Ile

Yes, Oyo Ile was at the Northern boundary of Yorubaland and Oyo was the rich and powerful capital making it a prized target. Fulanis already conquered a large expanse known as Northern Nigeria today. Oyo Ile does not have an advantage of a more centrally located capital so the fall was inevitable.

You mock Oyo you are only mocking your forefathers who jointly defended the entire Yorubaland axis for several generations before Oyo moved capital down to Igboho and later to the current location further south. Glad they rallied back and repelled the attacks through a joint force led by Ibadan. The Ijeshas and Ekitis also played key roles. Oyo never denied historical facts. What they reject is historical fabrications to cement lies

lagonovo:
You are just clowning around. To be a tenant there must be landlord, who is the landlord? If you are a bonafide Yoruba you should know Ago is not ownership. Oja was a citizen of Oyo empire with Ago in today's Isale Oyo. In Yoruba tradition and culture, they say Oba lo ni gbogbo ile. The land belongs to the king.

However, I understand some of you are only used to fabulous history like Oduduwa descending from the sky. You don't care, the end justifies the means

To even imagine that the land belong to oja or the old tiny military and trading camp of Ibadan at that time in history shows the damage some narrow-minded beer parlor historians and online trolls have done to Yoruba history and tradition.
Another one using today's mindset of local government mentioned Ogbomosho that was another small camp under Olugbon.

Amotolongbo:
The “Alaafin-centric LGs should have produced Oyo Governor if it’s as good as you said it now.

Oyos always vote Ibadan. They are not competing. Ladoja got some of his strongest support from Oyo-centric strongholds. Same with Ajimobi and even incumbent Seyi. Oyos did Ibadans no wrong, ever. That mindset only support the historical basis of the bond which some unscrupulous ones are now burning to the ground. This is culture and tradition, not politics.

ajalawole:
this don't start from makinde. Oni of ife, oni aderemi was the permanent chairman till 1980 when osun was created.
Life is funny sha. The gospel truth is that in the old Oyo state, Ooni of Ife was the permanent chairman. It was Alaafin Adeyemi who instigated the then Olubadan to stage a protest for rotational chairmanship. I remember reading it in TELL magazine of old.

Ooni Sijuade boycotted the Council until Osun was created. After Osun was carved out, Alaafin Adeyemi suddenly remembered he should be permanent chairman of Oyo but he had shot himself in the foot with ote and abosi against Ooniirisa.

That's the origin of the rotation before u make comments. NONE of the old state monarchs doubted Ooniirisa permanent chairman until the jiggerypokery of 'iku baba yeye'. Now, how can any Alaafin demand for what his predecessor fought against? Always fear Karma ooo!

Alaafin Adeyemi orchestrated for rotational during the old oyo state when Ooni Sijuade was permanent chairman

Alaafin Owoade is now saying he doesn’t want rotational

Agreement is Agreement 🥰😍❤️

We just love dribbling instead of addressing issues. The governor would have been honest enough to state clearly those who supported and one who is against. Then, state his position on the matter which would be binding, instead of publicly lying as usual.

Ojuntana:
Where did you see that he didn't consult the 3 kings involved? Two out of the three kings attended the ceremony. Only one refused claiming he was not informed. So how did the others hear about it to attend the meeting?

So, why did the governor say 3 kings agreed to it when only two showed up? Your governor is a liar. Just admit it than justifying lies. This is one of the many reasons Nigeria is in this state today. Our insincerity is a major problem.

The Alaafin is the superior head of yorubaland.
My SW brethrens should desist from making unguarded pronouncements that will desecrate the cherished throne of the revered paramount ruler.

MufasaLion:
Alaafin should get the hell out! Nobody cares about him or his position.

Tell that to your kings and stop the band wagonism

MufasaLion:
Alaafin should get the hell out! Nobody cares about him or his position.

The Blood of Sango is Troubling this King ... They Should all Go Back to Oranmiyan if they want Oyo's Throne to be respected again if not .... Na rumblin thumblin oooo ....

You Dared Your Father's Throne, You will see Shege!

muykem:
Alaafin should humble himself. He needs Ooni of ife for assistance.

Ibadan is already There

Amotolongbo:
Oh I’m engaging a pikin, sorry.

Tinubu is not so daft to leave an old time friend, Ladoja whose coronation he attended and of very high electoral value (11 LG) for a novice, Owoade with far less electoral value (~4LG) whose only relationship was giving Seyi Tinubu a chieftancy title so he could have a crumb from him.
Since the coronation, have you seen Seyi associating with the title in the public unlike the Stepmother, Yeye Asiwaju Oodua?
If Alaafin is that important, Tinubu would attend his coronation.

Heroes rise, heroes fall. Same as kingdoms and empires.

This your last line will hurt their feelings so much 🤣