₦airaland Forum

tunjijones:
Hey... In a country like Nigeria, if there is no quota system there will be unrest and rancour. That is the sad truth. That is why I curse whoever thought of joining the north and the south together.

Just imagine that the southerners are the only one getting admission to the university based on merit. There will be chaos. There will not be peace. If we really want to be successful and move forward as a country, the north has to be educated. Else they will not allow the south to rest.

The only way out is a total disintegration of this country or we patiently talk and help the north get education.

It's such a shame.

Ttalk:
They want you to echo their voice but rather na insult and abuse we dey hear

UrVillageChief:
Ogbeni, you have zero point and obviously don’t even know what the term means and do I blame you?😂 No, I don’t because if your people hadn’t allowed the Fulanis to use you by supporting the unreasonable system and you had been afforded proper, merit-based education, you wouldn’t have made and repeatedly defended such a silly blunder. Buhari merited the position by the virtue of winning the vast majority of the votes cast in 2015 as he wasn’t given on a platter and the SW voted him massively partly because of their future interest (which they later achieved)
Do I blame them, no, it’s only a fool that plays politics without putting his interests at the forefront.
Again, talking about Merit, all Nigerians needed in 2015 was a truthful, honest and incorruptible leader (that was the merit than and nobody was after educational prowess of the contestants) and if we must be truthful with ourselves, Buhari merited that very criterion and he cajoled the vast majority using his non-Avaricious persona.
So please explain to us how and at what instance the SW were seen supporting the quota system. You should kindly support your claims with enough proofs like this report.

DeLaRue:
UNN supported. The great South West universities opposed.

Ironically, the South East are now the staunchest critics of the so called quota system in Nigeria.

Every history of Nigeria that I have read, I struggle to find a single time when the Yorubas have been on the wrong side.

Mr Awolowo argued for the inclusion in the constitution for each region to have the right to secede. Mr Azikwe took the side of the Northern Premier in front of the colonialists in London to argue against it. A few years later, Mr Ojukwu went to war fighting for the Mr Azikwe's East to secede from Nigeria, but the Nigerian government refused on the ground that no region has a right to secede. The same secession right that Mr Azikwe had, a few years ealier, staunchly opposed. Another irony.

At Independence, Mr Azikwe parnered with the North and the British to solidify power in the North despite the opportunity to align with Awolowo to design a modern, progressive foundation for Nigeria. In return, he was given a token role of ceremonial President, while the real power was given to a Northern Premier. Today, the South Easterns are the ones protesting 'Northern domination' the most.

Also today, a Yoruba President is transforming the economy and the political power - balance between the North and South to reverse decades of lopsided political and administrative domination by the North, but another Easterner, Mr Obi, will accept a token role of Vice President to a Northern President to reverse all the efforts of a Southern leader to set a more solid foundation for Nigeria's future. Yet, in 20 years time, Mr Obi's South Easterners bitter complaints about 'Fulani domination' will reach new heights. But they will forget the role of their leaders in facilitating, supporting, and entrenching the problems.

The Yoruba culture encourages caution, thinking before acting, not cutting your nose to spite your eyes, and being philosophical about life. I think all these qualities make them more likely to make the right decisions as a group.

Ttalk:
Your region gave the first organ harvester senator in the whole world.

The first Nigeria Senator to serve jail term abroad

PDPdestroyer:
Lol. I find it amusing that lbos will even attempt to spin this into blaming Yorubas again, when it was clearly stated that they were part of those who openly supported quota system. These people can be unbelievable at times, how can one possibly spin this when it was clearly stated that the Yorubas were clearly against quota system in the report

datola:
Just like Azikwe opposed Awolowo's inclusion of freedom of exit of any region from Nigeria.

Now they are suffering the consequences.

LegendHero:
Who switched to quota system?

Ttalk:
The guy can't answer that.

Ttalk:
Stop ranting and speak fact. SW still maintain the highest entry requirement into the university up till today.

Bring your fact that show SW support quota system.

Maybe Nigeria started in 2015.

Who support Shehu Shahari a mere nursery school teacher and even deputized him.

Who support and organize 1million match for Sanni Abacha

Today you are presenting a 3rd class graduate of Philosophy to come and govern Nigeris

Ttalk:
You dey mind him. They were in government right from the 80s and throughout the military regime and up to Jonathan regime eating, dinning and wrecking the economy, today they are crying because they lost and now trying to change the story.

pongwa:
I see nothing wrong in quota system

mcquin:
Again, check my records, on many fronts I support Tinubu and might pass for an APC agent, but coming to defend the rubbish of Buhari who also came the this far he did by quota advantage, is another kettle of fish.

Believeintruth:
What do you gain from all these lies? Where did igbos say anything here?

Wickedtruths:
Go and read the first page. Or, did they write it in Latin?

SeeWahala:
Hehehe
This protest was done immediately before the government made them aware that the "system" was actually enacted against the Igbos who naturally merited everything

Once the junior RoNu students found out the gimmick they all folded their placards and vacated the streets to celebrate their 'One Nigeria'" with their Hausa/Fulani brothers 🤗

Racoon:
Chai! What a time to be alive. Is it not an irony that today, the same region have given this nation all manner of despicable people especially certificate forgers, in govt?

onuman:
Thereafter, is it only Fulani 'Hausa that made quote system come to stay? How come? Quota System is the most obnoxious, toxic and most vexed issue about Nigeria.
Some groups in Nigeria declare themselves less educated, but the groups largely determine who must preside over Nigeria. Country must obviously be run underground.

ibtommy:
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How did the Ronu people support mediocrity by rejecting the quota system? I'm sure you read the article well nut just decided to divert our attention to something else. Has the quota system actually helped the nation?
Bro, that's not a good one from you.

UrVillageChief:
My friend, please be teachable. Firstly, they (the Yorubas) supported Buhari because of what they stood to gain. Now, isn’t that what sane people do?
Just as the calculative and politically sagacious people that they are, they achieved that goal (another Yoruba presidency) immediately after the Buhari’s regime.
“but coming to defend the rubbish of Buhari who also came the this far he did by quota advantage”
Your quoted statement is the reason why I keep saying you definitely don’t know what the term you’ve been abusing really means. So you mean Buhari came that far with the advantage he enjoyed as a northerner right? No sir, the advantage he enjoyed as a northerner i.e the quota system, wasn’t what made him President because the prestigious office wasn’t handed to him out of pity for being a northerner, he MERITED it through the ballots.
Again, I will make it as simple and interactive as possible.

1. Did that quota advantage make him the President?

Answer: NO

2. Did the quota system help him rank high in the military thus pushing him to prominence?

Answer: Yes, that’s correct. To a very large extent.

3.Did the Yorubas support this very quota system that facilitated his success in the military?

Answer: No! How were they supposed to?

Now,
4. Did the quota system make him president (I.e was he handpicked to be president because he was a northerner?) and did the yorubas support his becoming President?

Answer: No, Buhari didn’t win the presidency by concensus, he contested and won. He was a democratically elected president who contested and won twice! Also yes, he did enjoy the overwhelming support of the Yorubas but the Yorubas didn’t facilitate his growth to prominence in the military, they only supported him as a civilian.
Now that I have broken it down to that elementary level you understand best, can you show us how exactly the Yorubas supported the quota system that pushed him that far (according to you)?

Believeintruth:
Oga if igbos supported quota system in 1972 it is clear because they were recovering after the civil war.

anonimi:
Can it be that Ayédèrú Tinubu is not a Yoruba person and that he is actually a Fulani man

lawani:
What Tinubu's ancestors can be is Bariba. That may explain the Jagaban of Borgu title. That however does not make him less Yoruba.

The Bariba are interspersed with the Yoruba and many Yoruba families are of Bariba origin. One Bariba even told me the famous founder of the Egba nation Lisabi was Bariba.

anonimi:
How we foiled Jonathan’s effort to make Mulika Adeola Speaker, Akande reveals

AS president in 2011, Goodluck Jonathan did all he could to ensure South West grabbed the country’s number four seat, including lobbying then opposition leaders from the zone, to no avail. The North West eventually grabbed the seat, supported by South West leaders in opposition to then ruling party, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

Former Governor of Osun State and now statesman, Chief Bisi Akande, made this revelation in his autobiography, “My Participations” which is currently dominating political and national dis- course.

Aminu Tambuwal, now Sokoto State governor, won the seat, against the preferred pick of his party, Mrs Mulikat Adeola Akande, from the South-West. Defunct Action Congress of Nigeria, then a fledging opposition, which had Akande and his soulmate, former Lagos State governor, Senator Bola Tinubu, as front- line leaders, openly asked its elected members of the House of Representatives, mostly from the South-West, to work against their region and back Tambuwal from North-West.

The opposition party’s support carried Tambuwal through the contest against Akande, then ruling party’s favourite for the speakership seat.

In his book, Chief Akande revealed that former president then as incumbent, personally reached out to Tinubu, who is now believed to be nursing presidential aspiration in 2023 and himself, but couldn’t convince them.

He wrote, “President Jonathan, immediately after the meeting (with political parties), called Bola Tinubu aside into a lobby to broach the matter of ACN support for a choice of who would become the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

“That same day, President Jonathan talked to me on phone about the same matter. He disclosed that PDP had zoned the position to the South-West but that only one Muraina and another Mulika won elections on PDP ticket from the zone into the House of Representatives.

https://tribuneonlineng.com/how-we-foiled-jonathans-effort-to-make-mulika-adeola-speaker-akande-reveals/

UrVillageChief:
Yes o and while the Fulanis were at it, some unthinking region, a region were foresight and intelligence are extremely rare commodities, outrightly went against the sane region that refused to align with the Fulanis and when they staged a walkout and their leader and representative resigned from office in protest, the Fulanis planted themselves there and passed the devilish and sickening legislation behind their back with the support of that very particular compromised region. Today, they are the ones complaining most about the quota system they once supported to spite the visionary people of the SW just the same way they are now clamoring for the secession that was rejected by Azikiwe. Azikiwe even made the topic about adding the secession clause into our constitution a TREASONABLE offense but today, his children are now in dire need of it, we serve a living God truly 🤣🤣🤣

Believeintruth:
Oga stop these lies. At Lancaster all the so called delegates signed a document prepared by the British that as a precondition for independence, the borders of colonial Nigeria must not be touched. So the British killed Awo's idea of succession clause and not Zik. Again the 1959 elections brought about a hung parliament where there was no clear majority that would form a government and so a coalition was required to achieve the majority required to form a government. So the British fearing that the north will not be a part of the independence said the coalition will be with the NPC any of the parties in the south. So the British set the stage for NPC/NCNC coalition.
Oga these lies have to stop.

onuman:
After spewing this rubbbbish, you call your self one of the most sophisticated races in the world.
Azikiwe took his stand many decades ago, but you are still living in the world of Azikiwe.

When Quota System was introduced into the constitution, it's shortly after the civil war when no Igbo was in the Armed forces ruling council in charge of Nigeria. There were military generals from the SW then who looked the other way while northern military dictators were creating new states, quote system, new local govt for every village in the north,

DeLaRue:
UNN supported. The great South West universities opposed.

Ironically, the South East are now the staunchest critics of the so called quota system in Nigeria.

Every history of Nigeria that I have read, I struggle to find a single time when the Yorubas have been on the wrong side.

Mr Awolowo argued for the inclusion in the constitution for each region to have the right to secede. Mr Azikwe took the side of the Northern Premier in front of the colonialists in London to argue against it. A few years later, Mr Ojukwu went to war fighting for the Mr Azikwe's East to secede from Nigeria, but the Nigerian government refused on the ground that no region has a right to secede. The same secession right that Mr Azikwe had, a few years ealier, staunchly opposed. Another irony.

At Independence, Mr Azikwe parnered with the North and the British to solidify power in the North despite the opportunity to align with Awolowo to design a modern, progressive foundation for Nigeria. In return, he was given a token role of ceremonial President, while the real power was given to a Northern Premier. Today, the South Easterns are the ones protesting 'Northern domination' the most.

Also today, a Yoruba President is transforming the economy and the political power - balance between the North and South to reverse decades of lopsided political and administrative domination by the North, but another Easterner, Mr Obi, will accept a token role of Vice President to a Northern President to reverse all the efforts of a Southern leader to set a more solid foundation for Nigeria's future. Yet, in 20 years time, Mr Obi's South Easterners bitter complaints about 'Fulani domination' will reach new heights. But they will forget the role of their leaders in facilitating, supporting, and entrenching the problems.

The Yoruba culture encourages caution, thinking before acting, not cutting your nose to spite your eyes, and being philosophical about life. I think all these qualities make them more likely to make the right decisions as a group.

T9ksy:
[i] Awo wanted secession clause included in the constitution. The NPC supported the AG. However, Britan opposed it and doesn't like the idea. Zik also opposed it and made a case against it (secession clause) citing the case of Texas vs White.

Since zik opposed it, it gave the British the upper hand to reject the motion. Had it been that zik did not opposed it, the British would be left with no choice if ALL the regions wanted the clause included in the Constitution. [i]

Excerpt: Nnamdi Azikiwe’s interview with New Nigeria in 1975.*

Wickedtruths:
What were they recovering from when they resisted the secession clause in the Independence constitution?

What were they recovering from when they arrested and sentenced Adaka Boro to death due attempting to seceede?

Today, Ibos are begging for secession.