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immaculatesense:
There have been contradiction since Christianity began even during the days of the apostles. The letters of Paul, Peter, and James clearly addressed division even right from the beginning of the Way. There were wolves among sheep even as far back as then.
Contradictions will continue till the second coming of Christ. But God cannot be mocked, "The Lord knows those who are His."
So, no change topic, the Lamb was worshipped by the host of heaven. Simple.

MaxInDHouse:
Shame don catch am!😂

Jesus prayed for his disciples to be One {John 17:22} so that there won't be any division among them! 1Corinthans 1:10

So God never answered Jesus' prayer shey?

I don hear you.😃

As for our own leader he prayed that we should be united in faith and that is what God did for him among Jehovah's Witnesses that's why our God started calling us by another group name! Isaiah 65:15

By the way if you believe there should be contradictions then why can't you just accept that this is part of the so called CONTRADICTIONS?

immaculatesense:
God create Angels and some still rebelled against him.

immaculatesense:
Which difference?
Is bowing down not worship?
Oya, tell me how to worship?
Or what was the Angel telling John here? YOU ARE CONFUSED? WHAT IS WORSHIP?
Let quote Una Bible JW.

Revelation 22:8-9
8 Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things.
9 But he tells) me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers the prophets and of those observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”

Confused people.

immaculatesense:
Is their name Jehovah Witness?
Yes or No?

@ Acts 15:14-18,did the disciples tell you they are bearing Jesus name?
No.
Therefore,the name is Jehovah's witness.

The question is WHY?
Let your Bible explain why....
The answer is Jesus revealed it,@ Matt12:15-18, Chosen servant of Jehovah @ Isaiah 43:10. Chosen servant is Jehovah's witness.
@ Rev 3:14 Jesus is "Faithful witness"
Jesus said @ John 17:11, "Holy Father ,keep them in your name which you have given me."
@ John 5:43, "I have come in my Father's name".
Is the Father's name Jesus ?
No nau !!!


@ John 9:4 & John 20:17,Jesus cemented this fact. Jesus /the disciples chosen servants bearing his Father's name, Jehovah's witnesses they are

Janosky:
No Sir .
Greek pipto g4098 (meaning Bowing down ) @ Revelation 22:8 is not worship Oga , go & confirm it ooo.
Don't confuse bowing down (pipto ) & worship.
That you bow down to a monarch/your parents does not mean you worship them
@ Rev 22:8-9 John said " I bowed down to worship."
Johns reason/motive for bowing down was rebuked by the angel.
Oga, note the difference.

Janosky:
@ John 9:4 & John 20:17,Jesus cemented this fact. Jesus /the disciples chosen servants bearing his Father's name, Jehovah's witnesses they are
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MaxInDHouse:
When young men prostrate before elders this guy doesn't know it's not to worship rather it's readiness to obey by carrying out any form of task the elders gives.

So when all the host of heaven do obeisance before Jesus this guy thought they are worshiping Jesus just as his trinitarian mentors taught him whereas what that means is readiness to take order from Jesus.

Now upon all his worship argument he can't present one single church where they are worshiping Jesus!😂

Janosky:
My Bible student (a police officer in my former congregation territory) his colleagues asked him how come he knows the Bible so well more than them? They said that if they were studying as he was doing, they would just resign & open a church to make money like the popular pastorpreneurs.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what pains these guys when they are discussing with JWs on this forum as they realize we are completely equipped with using the scriptures they wonder why we still remain humble to those taking the lead in God's organization because if they know half of what we know they would have started earning money long ago claiming pastors!🙂

Janosky:
@ Acts 15:14-18,did the disciples tell you they are bearing Jesus name?
No.
Therefore,the name is Jehovah's witness.

The question is WHY?
Let your Bible explain why....
The answer is Jesus revealed it,@ Matt12:15-18, Chosen servant of Jehovah @ Isaiah 43:10. Chosen servant is Jehovah's witness.
@ Rev 3:14 Jesus is "Faithful witness"
Jesus said @ John 17:11, "Holy Father ,keep them in your name which you have given me."
@ John 5:43, "I have come in my Father's name".
Is the Father's name Jesus ?
No nau !!!


@ John 9:4 & John 20:17,Jesus cemented this fact. Jesus /the disciples chosen servants bearing his Father's name, Jehovah's witnesses they are

Janosky:
No Sir .
Greek pipto g4098 (meaning Bowing down ) @ Revelation 22:8 is not worship .

Oga , go & confirm it ooo.
Don't confuse bowing down (pipto ) & worship.

That you bow down to a monarch/your parents does not mean you worship them

@ Rev 22:8-9 John said " I bowed down to worship."
Johns reason/motive for bowing down was rebuked by the angel.
Oga, note the difference.


Greek transliteration:
piptō
Simplified transliteration:
pipto

Strong's number:
4098

to fall, collapse[i]; to bow down;
Definition:
to fall, Mt. 15:27; Lk. 10:18; to fall, fall prostrate, fall down, Mt. 17:6; 18:29; Lk. 17:16, Rev 22:8[/i]

MaxInDHouse:
So are those rebelling againt Him still part of His worshipers?

Jesus instructed his disciples to organize themselves for the assignment he gave them! Matthew 28:19-20
While JWs are doing this globally today you people can't organize yourselves all you do is argue aimlessly about Jesus yet claiming you're worshiping him

Jesus commanded his disciples to make sure there is love among them as a sign that they are followers of the Prince of peace! John 13:34-35
While you people can't even agree to worship together as one each of you nah anywhere belle face yet Jesus is your God.

Jesus commanded his disciples not to be a part of worldly politicians {John 17:14-16} so that Satan won't use tactics to divide them. Luke 4:5-7
While you people can't even separate the holy things from Satan's arrangement.

Jesus commanded his disciples to stop talking or greeting any self acclaimed believer who refuses to hold the same line of thought with them! Matthew 18:15-17 compare to Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11
While you people continue deceiving one another counting those contradicting what you teach as DENOMINATIONS of believers in your Jesus.

Jesus commanded us never to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe! Matthew 5:43-48
While you people are fighting and killing your fellow worshipers in other lands in the name of politics and racism.

Yet with all these you people are still claiming you WORSHIP Jesus.

Between Jehovah's Witnesses who says it is not about worshiping Jesus but obeying his commands who knows him better? John 15:14😂

immaculatesense:
Was Judas that betrayed Jesus not part of His disciples? Are you kidding me?
They are part of the fold, but Jesus will reject them on the last day. They are people who have their place with Judas, who saw the light but still walk in darkness.

immaculatesense:
You are confused Oga.
I asked for the meaning of Worship and Obeisance in Greek, you are selling pepper and tomato for me.

immaculatesense:
You are confused Oga.
I asked for the meaning of Worship and Obeisance in Greek, you are selling pepper and tomato for me.

Oga,you asked "is bowing down not worship?"
You quoted Revelation 22:8-9 to buttress your claim.

I referenced the Greek word for word Interlinear & pointed out to you that Greek pipto @ Rev 22:8-9 you quoted is not worship.

Now you wan pretend that you asked me the meaning of Worship & Obeisance in Greek.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself, pls read the screenshot of your post I replied on 13th January, 2026 @ 8;19pm.

immaculatesense:
So the first church was Jehovah Witness?
Keep deceiving yourself.

immaculatesense:
New King James trying to evade worship? Are you new to Bible history? Why was the New King James version written differently from the King James? Was it not to make it simpler for people to understand? Worship was broken down to mean falling down or bowing down.
When the Devil asked Jesus to fall down and worship him, was the devil not demanding worship from Jesus if he fell down to worship? Why didn't Jesus just bow down and say it is just bowing down and not worship. When you fall and bow down to anyone or image, it is worship. Such is meant for Elohim (Spirit beings (plural) with God's delegation) alone.

You still have not told us the Greek of Worship and Obeisance so we can check the difference.

Truthseeker10:
Why do you still call your dad "father" since Jesus told you in Greek not to do so?

So according to Jesus in Matthew 18:36, it is not only God that should be worshipped even servants can fall down and worship their earthly masters?

You claimed to have worshipped your parents.....do you bow down and fall down to them?

According to your statement in bold above, does the Bible teach that spirit beings should be worshipped apart from God Almighty?

immaculatesense:
I have answered all the questions somewhere. Go and look for them. Don't be lazy.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Funny man....I should look for answers that you've not given. Oga since English translations of Greek words does not matter, answer the questions below.

Why do you still call your dad "father" since Jesus told you in Greek not to do so?

So according to Jesus in Matthew 18:36, it is not only God that should be worshipped even servants can fall down and worship their earthly masters?

You claimed to have worshipped your parents.....do you bow down and fall down to them?

According to your statement in bold above, does the Bible teach that spirit beings should be worshipped apart from God Almighty?

immaculatesense:
You don't have to be lazy boy.
Go check it out. Na Assignment. Nobody go help u do am.

MaxInDHouse:
You just love deceiving yourself!😃

immaculatesense:
I sent it to u precisely. What are brothers for? Help your brother by sending the response to him on all the questions he has raised.

immaculatesense:
You don't have to be lazy boy.
Go check it out. Na Assignment. Nobody go help u do am.

MaxInDHouse:
So you finally admitted that you are not his brother, right?🙂

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Baba go and sleep.

immaculatesense:
Is he not your brother?

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi you get time to waste.

So StillDTruth, true2God, DTruthSpeaker and other monikers he's using interchangeably that you are taking seriously like this?