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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 9:31am On Jan 21
Kingsnairaland:
At the end of the day they Europe will lick trump feet grin


You're the only one doing it correctly so far.

🤜🏻🤛🏻
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 9:38am On Jan 21
⚡Ursula von der Leyen:

This moment of global change is fraught with dangers. Becoming more independent in shaping our own future will not be easy. It will require difficult decisions.

I am deeply convinced that together we can achieve it.

Long live Europe.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 9:47am On Jan 21
⚡Canadian Armed Forces have modelled a hypothetical U.S. military invasion of Canada and the country’s potential response, which includes tactics similar to those employed against Russia and later U.S led forces in Afghanistan, The Globe and Mail reports

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:52am On Jan 21
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:54am On Jan 21
WriterrNg:


Turning Israel to, which means they're not YET a regional power.

Mr English Comprehension.
😂😂😂🤣🤣. It’s difficult to understand that dude when he’s not copying and pasting.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:57am On Jan 21


Trump is a con artist and probably a disaster but democrats will always be the crazy ones.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 10:12am On Jan 21
Mikasaobi:


Trump is a con artist and probably a disaster but democrats will always be the crazy ones.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by tonididdy(m): 10:12am On Jan 21
[quote author=WriterrNg post=138209337]⚡Q: What is your response to Iran's leadership and their regime continuing to taunt and threaten you?

Trump: Anything ever happens, we're going to blow the—the whole country is going to get blown up.

I have very firm instructions. Anything happens, they're going to wipe them off the face of this earth.


Miss Iran! Fvck arand and find out!
To be forewarned is to be forearmed
]
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:21am On Jan 21
WriterrNg:


What can Russia and China do other than to send weapons? Tell us.

If Iran has refused to acquire nukes, what else can anyone do to help them?
china should send an armada and four squadrons of j-20s
then activate 50,000 troops,
not even deploy them, just activate them and send them to their border with pakistan

then send a couple of military transport planes
with a few generals
announce it is routine coordination




the phone lines in beijing will blow up with those moves
and the us will be seeking clarification
simply respond with, all options are on the table




this war can be deterred
but panda is not interested in establishing the deterrence

instead we're going to have a ukraine redux
the axis is going to do what they can to make sure iran wins or achieves a stalemate

there will be surprises though, that much is sure

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 10:25am On Jan 21
emmaodet:
With all these weapons coming in, what are China and Russia doing openly to send a message and deter the west? Not covertly.
I don't like reactions rather actions.
Of what point is supporting a country after it has been destabilized.
The aim and objective is not to destroy it in the first place, not supporting after destroying.
Building cities back cost a lot of money, especially money that is not there in the first place due to excruciating sanctions.
It cost a lot of lives, money, rebuilding etc.
So the aim should be deterrence and not fighting back.
Within Trump's first year, he has fought so many wars than any other president I know yet always crying for Nobel peace price.
The US just blasted of cutting off China from Venezuela oil, I want to believe their long term plan is to cut off China from Iran oil too.
It is never about the mullahs nor their regime been anti-US, it is a crafty way of isolating China and Russia before coming to them.
I guess reason China has been sending more than 16 cargo planes of weapons to iran of recent.
Nobody likes their country to be destroyed. It is a big turn off. The main aim should be deterrence.
China never sent any cargo. The news was later proven to be false
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:36am On Jan 21
⚡Barcelona commuter train crashes Tuesday night, two days after deadly train collision in Spain — AP
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:38am On Jan 21
⚡US Envoy Tom Barrack:

The US has no interest in long-term military presence in Syria; it prioritizes defeating ISIS remnants, supporting reconciliation, and advancing national unity without endorsing separatism or federalism.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:38am On Jan 21
⚡Canadian PM Mark Carney:

It seems that every day we are reminded that we live in an era of great power rivalry.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:39am On Jan 21
⚡Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov:

Washington clearly understands that neither Russia nor the PRC has plans to seize Greenland.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:39am On Jan 21
⚡Ursula von der Leyen:

Our companies are taking up AI at the same pace as their US peers.

Europe is in the race for the key technologies of tomorrow.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:40am On Jan 21
⚡Ursula von der Leyen:

The seismic change we are going through today is an opportunity—in fact, a necessity—to build a new form of European independence.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:40am On Jan 21
⚡Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov:

I believe that Britain should be called “Britain.”

Because Great Britain is the only example of a country calling itself “great.”

Another example was the Libyan Jamahiriya, which no longer exists.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:42am On Jan 21
⚡NATO officials are restricting intelligence sharing with the US amid fears that Trump could misuse sensitive information as he pushes to acquire Greenland.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:42am On Jan 21
⚡Israel told the U.S. it could absorb even a worst-case Iranian barrage (~700 ballistic missiles) if it led to regime collapse in Tehran.

Israeli leaders argue the cost would be worth it given Israel’s air and missile defenses proven in the 2025 war.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:46am On Jan 21
⚡German Chancellor Merz on Greenland:

The United States of America once had more than 30,000 soldiers stationed in Greenland. Today, there are fewer than 200.

So obviously the threat assessment of the United States itself is not as dramatic as it is currently being presented — even though the security situation could become more difficult again.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:47am On Jan 21
⚡Araghchi says US withdrawal signals stronger Iraqi sovereignty.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said that the withdrawal of US forces from Ain al-Asad Air Base and the end of the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq strengthen Iraq’s independence and national sovereignty, speaking during a joint press conference with Iraq’s foreign minister.

He reaffirmed Iran’s longstanding support for a strong, sovereign Iraq capable of playing a key role in regional peace and stability.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:51am On Jan 21
WriterrNg:
⚡Araghchi says US withdrawal signals stronger Iraqi sovereignty.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said that the withdrawal of US forces from Ain al-Asad Air Base and the end of the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq strengthen Iraq’s independence and national sovereignty, speaking during a joint press conference with Iraq’s foreign minister.

He reaffirmed Iran’s longstanding support for a strong, sovereign Iraq capable of playing a key role in regional peace and stability.
gloating is in order

hopefully more countries in the levant will be demilitarized of us presence after the imminent war

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:54am On Jan 21
⚡Anduril Founder Palmer Luckey
on Russia and China’s Most Powerful Weapon:

“Some of the stuff that Russia and China are doing, it’s as sci-fi as what the United States is doing.”

“I’ve come to the conclusion that their most powerful weapon isn’t any bomb or missile or drone. It’s their ability to control people’s minds through propaganda.”

“A lot of Russians that went to fight in Ukraine in the early days… they were told that the people of Ukraine want to be liberated, you’re gonna be a hero.”

“When I was in Ukraine… there was this [Russian] attack helicopter wreck.”


“The pilot’s go-bag… it had 3 or 4 days of water, 3 or 4 days of food, his dress uniform with dress shoes, and 50 condoms.”

“And to me that speaks to how brainwashed this guy was… they were told there’s gonna be parades… he thought the women would be all over him, and he was gonna need 50 condoms for the post-war celebration.”

“What I worry about is if China invades Taiwan, they’re gonna come up with a similar story.”

“[The CCP] is gonna trick their people into thinking Taiwan wants to be reunified.”


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 10:55am On Jan 21
The CEO of a failed drone company talking.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:17am On Jan 21
emmaodet:
With all these weapons coming in, what are China and Russia doing openly to send a message and deter the west? Not covertly.
I don't like reactions rather actions.
Of what point is supporting a country after it has been destabilized.
The aim and objective is not to destroy it in the first place, not supporting after destroying.
Building cities back cost a lot of money, especially money that is not there in the first place due to excruciating sanctions.
It cost a lot of lives, money, rebuilding etc.
So the aim should be deterrence and not fighting back.
Within Trump's first year, he has fought so many wars than any other president I know yet always crying for Nobel peace price.
The US just blasted of cutting off China from Venezuela oil, I want to believe their long term plan is to cut off China from Iran oil too.
It is never about the mullahs nor their regime been anti-US, it is a crafty way of isolating China and Russia before coming to them.
I guess reason China has been sending more than 16 cargo planes of weapons to iran of recent.
Nobody likes their country to be destroyed. It is a big turn off. The main aim should be deterrence.
Well, it has now come to the stage where I'm no longer skeptical about Iran's readiness to counter the external threats posed by the hegemon nor afraid regarding its ability to hit back hard at the enemy.

The way Tehran's counterintelligence handled and dismantled the sophisticated terrorist network cum CIA color coded revolution attempts in the recent riots has shown that the country has come along way after 12D, and is, in the voice of Pac, "ready for whatever."



Be that as it may, you’re absolutely right that deterrence should be the priority, not rushing into military intervention after further destabilization has already happened. Sending weapons before conflict is part of that deterrence — and the recent flows of arms from Russia and China to Iran underscore exactly that dynamic.


Russia and China aren’t simply issuing statements; there have been open indications of military support to Tehran aimed at shoring up its defenses after the latest regional fighting. The Chinese made it very clear that they will act if need be to ensure that there won't be a repeat of Venezuela. Since, and even before that statement Russian and Chinese cargo flights and military cooperation have tripled deliveries to Tehran, reflecting a real effort to bolster Iran’s ability to defend itself and signal that outside attacks would carry heavy costs.

More concretely, a long-range Russian S-400 air defense systems and Chinese surface-to-air missile systems are currentlyas part of Tehran’s efforts to rebuild its defenses. These systems could make any future U.S. or US air campaign far more contested and costly.


That’s the point: deterrence isn’t empty rhetoric. When a potential adversary has anti-access/area denial capabilities in place — whether supplied by Russia or China — it can raise the price of military action dramatically. In Iran’s case, these systems are designed to challenge U.S. air supremacy and increase risks to attacking forces, which, strategically, helps prevent war in the first place. This underscores your point that actions aimed at preventing destruction upfront are far better than trying to rebuild afterwards.


So while debates about oil, sanctions, and geopolitical chess plays are valid, there’s real evidence that external support to Iran isn’t just symbolic — it feeds into a broader deterrence strategy that could give the U.S. serious blowback if it chooses a military path now. That’s exactly why many of the surrounding countries in the ME does no longer want to have anything to do with the US striking Iran from their territories. They knew with all certainty that the blowback from Iran would be catastrophic. That is deterrence.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 11:20am On Jan 21
seunny4lif:
A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED! The EU and UK have FINALLY discovered international law!
International law says you can’t kidnap the leaders of other countries.
International law says Israelis cannot destroy Gaza and kill the people there.
International law says you can’t steal entire ships full of oil.
International law says you can’t separate Taiwan from Mainland China.
International law says you can’t organize regime change operations in other countries.
International law says a country can’t impose unilateral sanctions on anyone.
International law says you can’t manipulate proxy wars into being.
International law says you cannot use economic coercion for political advantage.
International law says you cannot breach other countries’ sovereign territorial rights.
The EU and UK have turned a blind eye to all the above, year after year. Finally, they are having their Damascus Road experience.
Welcome to the world, friends.
Show me one single international law that confers the legal sovereignty of Taiwan on China. The mere fact that many countries acknowledge The Chinese One China principle has now turned to International law? You people will just be fabricating gibberish from thin air thinking you are intelligent. There is a reason I just go straight for the jugular on this thread. It is worthless engaging many on you on any thing intellectual.
I went through every single thing you wrote here and called international law and not a single one, I repeat, not a single one is stricto sensu correct. You just copied some other people's opinion and criticism and calling it "International law"


Exactly what you people stand to gain from disinformation is what baffles me.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 11:21am On Jan 21
SpaceX:
false hope can make you loose your mind, the delusion continues for you.
Better leave that one to continue roaming without clothes.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 11:24am On Jan 21
Masterviolence:
No one is arguing that the U.S. lacks overwhelming firepower or the ability to devastate Iran militarily. That’s not the point. The issue isn’t whether America can glass Iran, but whether doing so achieves any political objective without triggering strategic overextension.

History shows that superior military power doesn’t guarantee strategic success Vietnam, Somalia, and Afghanistan are reminders that wars are lost not because the stronger side can’t destroy things, but because it can’t convert destruction into sustainable outcomes.
Iran wouldn’t need to land a missile on U.S. soil to impose costs. Through asymmetric warfare, regional escalation, economic disruption, and long-term attrition, it could turn any intervention into a pyrrhic outcome where the U.S. wins tactically but loses strategically.
So this isn’t about craziness or bravado. It’s about deterrence, cost-imposition, and whether starting a war creates more problems than it solves.
Using your own position here, can you now agree that Ukraine has done the same to Russia?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by olutund(m): 11:31am On Jan 21
LordAdam16:
china should send an armada and four squadrons of j-20s
then activate 50,000 troops,
not even deploy them, just activate them and send them to their border with pakistan

then send a couple of military transport planes
with a few generals
announce it is routine coordination




the phone lines in beijing will blow up with those moves
and the us will be seeking clarification
simply respond with, all options are on the table




this war can be deterred
but panda is not interested in establishing the deterrence

instead we're going to have a ukraine redux
the axis is going to do what they can to make sure iran wins or achieves a stalemate

there will be surprises though, that much is sure

-Lord
I think china needs to test its weapon systems and show how far they've come .

just like we saw in India vs Pakistan with the performance of the J-10C

deterrence won't help them achieve this
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 11:46am On Jan 21
Appleyard:
Well, it has now come to the stage where I'm no longer skeptical about Iran's readiness to counter the external threats posed by the hegemon nor afraid regarding its ability to hit back hard at the enemy.

The way Tehran's counterintelligence handled and dismantled the sophisticated terrorist network cum CIA color coded revolution attempts in the recent riots has shown that the country has come along way after 12D, and is, in the voice of Pac, "ready for whatever."



Be that as it may, you’re absolutely right that deterrence should be the priority, not rushing into military intervention after further destabilization has already happened. Sending weapons before conflict is part of that deterrence — and the recent flows of arms from Russia and China to Iran underscore exactly that dynamic.


Russia and China aren’t simply issuing statements; there have been open indications of military support to Tehran aimed at shoring up its defenses after the latest regional fighting. The Chinese made it very clear that they will act if need be to ensure that there won't be a repeat of Venezuela. Since, and even before that statement Russian and Chinese cargo flights and military cooperation have tripled deliveries to Tehran, reflecting a real effort to bolster Iran’s ability to defend itself and signal that outside attacks would carry heavy costs.

More concretely, a long-range Russian S-400 air defense systems and Chinese surface-to-air missile systems are currentlyas part of Tehran’s efforts to rebuild its defenses. These systems could make any future U.S. or US air campaign far more contested and costly.


That’s the point: deterrence isn’t empty rhetoric. When a potential adversary has anti-access/area denial capabilities in place — whether supplied by Russia or China — it can raise the price of military action dramatically. In Iran’s case, these systems are designed to challenge U.S. air supremacy and increase risks to attacking forces, which, strategically, helps prevent war in the first place. This underscores your point that actions aimed at preventing destruction upfront are far better than trying to rebuild afterwards.


So while debates about oil, sanctions, and geopolitical chess plays are valid, there’s real evidence that external support to Iran isn’t just symbolic — it feeds into a broader deterrence strategy that could give the U.S. serious blowback if it chooses a military path now. That’s exactly why many of the surrounding countries in the ME does no longer want to have anything to do with the US striking Iran from their territories. They knew with all certainty that the blowback from Iran would be catastrophic. That is deterrence.
personally, i want to take sh*t one step at a time

the fact that the us got to the brink of starting a war with iran and stepped back
is a huge development
that was deterrence in action

getting the gulf to send the americans packing is deterrence
getting iraq to be empty of us presence on federal land for the first time in 23 years is deterrence




but just because you can deter the hegemony once
does not mean you have deterred it forever
they are relentless

so they've gone back to the drawing board and are currently amassing a much larger strike/defensive force
iran and the axis must meet this new challenge
not get complacent because they won round 1 before the bell even rang
tbf, i'm not saying they are not doing enough
russia did coordinate with iran to test an icbm
this is unprecedented because russia is a member of the MTCR and is theoretically barred from doing that by international law

that said, if we're talking about an escalation ladder
that lies with china
because we have to remember that europe is gearing up to take on russia directly
and russia has to always keep that at the back of its mind

i believe it is clear i'm not a fan of panda's approach
we will see just how well the axis are prepared for the next onslaught




by the way, the hegemonic belligerence in the last 8 months has facilitated the deepest supra-national military integration between russia, iran, and china in their history
sh*t that they should have already been doing
better late than never

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 11:51am On Jan 21
olutund:
I think china needs to test its weapon systems and show how far they've come .

just like we saw in India vs Pakistan with the performance of the J-10C

deterrence won't help them achieve this
i am sure there are chinese generals begging panda to do this

and he has been saying no since 2022

if you check the thread, many axis folks, myself inclusive, have also echoed your thoughts even before this venezuela/iran/cuba sitch

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 12:04pm On Jan 21
[quote author=WriterrNg post=138210137]⚡Spain’s MEP Irene Montero went nuclear in the European Parliament, accusing Europe of humiliating itself before Donald Trump:

Do you still believe that by helping the United States to commit its crimes, we will be safe?

Bombing and sanctioning Iran will not bring freedom to women. It will bring oil to Trump.

The policy of appeasement did not prevent the war; it only made the monster bigger.

Trump is the Hitler of the 21st century.

We must isolate the United States and leave NATO now, not help them bomb Iran. Have some dignity.


prayers are working. We are getting there.

The buildup keep accelerating. The disengagement by one-time allies is being advocated and must materialize.


Just as David prayed unto God to turn the counsel of Ahitophel to foolishness, So pray I now to thee, O Lord of Karma and Ruler of the Artic. Turn the counsel of Trump's cabinet and those of the European Parliament into foolishness.

May they be divided into two main camps--some that will lick dry the Greenlandish poo of Trump against Denmark and those in the Spanish camp that would get mad, break all relations with the US and walk out the NATO exit door.


And as the artic spirits in their eerie snake-like vectors, backed by the witch of Edom beckon on Trump to embark on this catastrophic real estate endeavor, may Hitler bellowed from the darkest part of hell, "thish ish my beloved Orange son, in whom I'm well reincarnated."

And as the hordes of hell chorus "Amin" to this holy petition, grace our eyes to witness the Bear and the Dragon clinking glasses of vodka while the EU suffocate under a 500% tariff increase and empty energy storages --- Saddam Hussein standing by as the pump attendant ready to ease their shock and awe with Satan's Urine, while Eminem's "Mocking bird" plays in the background.



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