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Eniitankorede:
Who found you guiltless? Paul? 😀

See how twisted you are? Did I say anything about Paul? Did not clearly say God?

Go and mind your business when God comes you would know if it is you Muslims who will be going to the place God has prepared for His enemies

Eniitankorede:
God can never come to this tiny bit of His creation...

In your religion do you not you people not claim that your god went to the tiny creation called Mohammed?

Anyway, it is Off Point.

When God Comes we will know between us who is the unbeliever.

Dtruthspeaker:
In your religion do you not you people not claim that your god went to the tiny creation called Mohammed?

Anyway, it is Off Point.

When God Comes we will know between us who is the unbeliever.

Very ignorant question. God sent His angel to Muhammad. Just like He went to Abraham and other prophets.

Dtruthspeaker:
See how twisted you are? Did I say anything about Paul? Did not clearly say God?

Go and mind your business when God comes you would know if it is you Muslims who will be going to the place God has prepared for His enemies

If God already found you guiltless, what will be happening on the day of judgment?

Eniitankorede:
You are a liar. Show us the blunders, contradictions.

Plenty, like telling us the semen of man comes from the backbone

SIRTee15:
Plenty, like telling us the semen of man comes from the backbone

Ask any doctor with good knowledge of embryology and they will tell you it is spot on. That’s the origin of testes and sperm cells. Your ignorance is the problem with you, not Quran. Your creator knows more than you.

Eniitankorede:
Ask any doctor with good knowledge of embryology and they will tell you it is spot on. That’s the origin of testes and sperm cells. Your ignorance is the problem with you, not Quran. Your creator knows more than you.

embryology of the sperm cells is not from the backbone my friend, origin of sperm cells is from the yolk sac.

Now lets ask your ancient scholars in the tafsir the exegesis of verse

Asrar - Kashf Al-Asrar
He was created of gushing water, emerging from between the loins and the chest.
When the human individual was created, he was created from water thrown and spilled, a water that came forth from the back of the man and from the bones within the woman's breast.

Kathir - Ibn Kathir
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' Concerning Allah's statement,

It's even worse for u guys, the tafsir mentioned the fluids from backbone of the man and the rib of the woman makes a baby.
Isokuso

That's not even the end of it. The quran is not the first book to say baby comes fluids from the backbone of man.
ancient Doctors from Persia, Greece, Rome and Egyptian all said baby is made from emission that comes from the backbone.

"The Kahun papyrus is the gynecological text that enables us to examine ancient Egypt’s concept of human reproduction. Ancient Egyptians had two theories in regards to conception. They believed that a man’s semen originated from the spinal cord, as this was the belief spread by Egyptian priests who worshiped bulls and perceived that the bull’s phallus was an extension of the spine."


Quran simply repeated the ignorant medical knowledge of its time and lied it came from God.

Eniitankorede:
You are a liar. Show us the blunders, contradictions.

another blunder from the direct verbatim words of the all knowing Allah

Moon has light and earth was formed before the stars.

Eniitankorede:
How can we explain to ignorant ones? Quran is revealed by the creator of your bible writers and your Jesus and everything that exists. Does that make sense to you now?

REVEALED or Copied?

How can information in the public domain be revealed?
All the Prophets Quran claimed were already documented by Jews, so, how can Islam lay claim to such information?

Check the meaning of revelation where revealed is taken from to eat a clear glimpse of it's meaning.

Just like someone saying that it was revealed that Late Buhari was a president in Nigeria

Doesn't this put logic on its head?

Eniitankorede:
You are in a state of self imposed delusion. Who is your child? When were you borne? You better go and take your medication.

You ask when I was born and who my child is, as if age and lineage decide truth.

That tells me something important about you.

My culture is older than your certainty.
Older than your church.
Older than the idea that shouting makes a thing holy.

In the old Northern way, wisdom is not proven by noise or insults.
It is proven by endurance, restraint, and memory.

We do not scream belief.
We test it.

Odin did not gain wisdom by calling others mad.
He gave an eye for knowledge and learned silence before speech.

If something challenges you and your first response is to insult mental health instead of addressing the idea, then the problem is not the speaker.

It is that your belief cannot stand unexamined.

In the North we say:
"A man who must shout that he is right is already afraid that he is not."

So keep your certainty.
I’ll keep my questions.

They’ve survived longer.

Eniitankorede:
You are in a state of self imposed delusion. Who is your child? When were you borne? You better go and take your medication.

Hey fella, this will drive you nuts, you are a certain belief system that i cant type or I get banned but im Norwegian and ex British royal Marine "MOS 11B Åberg".

Fought in Afghanistan, iraq, iran and worse. Guess which beliefs system i was at war with?

The one you are defending, the one that always becomes a failed state, the one that will never be successful

The one people are leaving faster than they can breed and convert them.

Patience it won't be around forever its on the decline already.

[quote author=Eniitankorede post=138210507]All your sources which you derive your knowledge from have been corrupted. Yet you confidently tell me with your corrupted knowledge that I speak nonsense! Your eyes will soon clear. [/quote

Thought you might like this fella 😀



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pehX_8hhnn8?si=wDcQ2R6GU1XUWjmA

Fenrir:
Hey fella, this will drive you nuts, you are a certain belief system that i cant type or I get banned but im Norwegian and ex British royal Marine "MOS 11B Åberg".

Fought in Afghanistan, iraq, iran and worse. Guess which beliefs system i was at war with?

The one you are defending, the one that always becomes a failed state, the one that will never be successful

The one people are leaving faster than they can breed and convert them.

Patience it won't be around forever its on the decline already.

Your statements confirm you are in delusion. American soldiers who went to Afghanistan are turning to Islam. The ones in Saudi are reverting. Here in the west majority of reverts are into Islam. And you are here making empty brags.

Eniitankorede:
Your statements confirm you are in delusion. American soldiers who went to Afghanistan are turning to Islam. The ones in Saudi are reverting. Here in the west majority of reverts are into Islam. And you are here making empty brags.

That shows how uneducated you are. Watch that video i sent you. What your book says about your race and its not me saying it your own book says it
And im not American so why would I care?

Black people dont go heaven in the quran.

Eniitankorede:
If God already found you guiltless, what will be happening on the day of judgment?

Is not on judgement day that
The Judge decides if an accused is guilty or guiltless?

So, as i said mind your business when God comes we would all know who shall mourn and who shall rejoys

Eniitankorede:
Very ignorant question. God sent His angel to Muhammad. Just like He went to Abraham and other prophets.

If you send your servant to meet a person, are you not the one who meets the person even if through a proxy or agent?

Is your servant not going on your command?

As I said, off point

Eniitankorede:
Your statements confirm you are in delusion. American soldiers who went to Afghanistan are turning to Islam. The ones in Saudi are reverting. Here in the west majority of reverts are into Islam. And you are here making empty brags.

So because whites are converting to Islam, it means Islam is true!!!!
Well let me shock u...
The biggest converts to Yoruba spirituality are whites. The biggest converts to Buddhism are equally whites.

So leave irrelevance alone and face the truth. Is Quran the word of God?

More blunders from the Quran

Surah 18:86 states that Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting place of the sun and found it setting in a "muddy waters.
Allah ignorantly claims the sun has a resting place it runs to everyday and it's in a muddy waters.

Stars as Missiles: According to the Quran, Allah created stars as decorations for the lowest heaven and as missiles to drive away devils/jinns (67:5, 37:6-.

Allah claimed Jews called Ezra the Son of God. Surah 9.30.
A claimed not found in any Jewish religious literature. No Jew dead or alive is ever recorded to have called Ezra Son of God in any form or shape.

There are over 100 historical and scientific blunders in the Quran. Your prophet simply copied down the ignorant beliefs of people on his time or things he heard, just he heard ancient physicians saying semen is ejected from the backbone and simply added it to the Quran
A book filled with such ignorant comments can never be from God.

Even your Hadith confirmed people during his time knew Mormo was fabricating stories claiming it's from God.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3617
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."

SIRTee15:
So because whites are converting to Islam, it means Islam is true!!!!
Well let me shock u...
The biggest converts to Yoruba spirituality are whites. The biggest converts to Buddhism are equally whites.

So leave irrelevance alone and face the truth. Is Quran the word of God?

More blunders from the Quran

Surah 18:86 states that Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting place of the sun and found it setting in a "muddy waters.
Allah ignorantly claims the sun has a resting place it runs to everyday and it's in a muddy waters.

Stars as Missiles: According to the Quran, Allah created stars as decorations for the lowest heaven and as missiles to drive away devils/jinns (67:5, 37:6-.

Allah claimed Jews called Ezra the Son of God. Surah 9.30.
A claimed not found in any Jewish religious literature. No Jew dead or alive is ever recorded to have called Ezra Son of God in any form or shape.

There are over 100 historical and scientific blunders in the Quran. Your prophet simply copied down the ignorant beliefs of people on his time or things he heard, just he heard ancient physicians saying semen is ejected from the backbone and simply added it to the Quran
A book filled with such ignorant comments can never be from God.

Even your Hadith confirmed people during his time knew Mormo was fabricating stories claiming it's from God.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3617
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."

You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that.

SIRTee15:
So because whites are converting to Islam, it means Islam is true!!!!
Well let me shock u...
The biggest converts to Yoruba spirituality are whites. The biggest converts to Buddhism are equally whites.

So leave irrelevance alone and face the truth. Is Quran the word of God?

More blunders from the Quran

Surah 18:86 states that Dhul-Qarnayn reached the setting place of the sun and found it setting in a "muddy waters.
Allah ignorantly claims the sun has a resting place it runs to everyday and it's in a muddy waters.

Stars as Missiles: According to the Quran, Allah created stars as decorations for the lowest heaven and as missiles to drive away devils/jinns (67:5, 37:6-.

Allah claimed Jews called Ezra the Son of God. Surah 9.30.
A claimed not found in any Jewish religious literature. No Jew dead or alive is ever recorded to have called Ezra Son of God in any form or shape.

There are over 100 historical and scientific blunders in the Quran. Your prophet simply copied down the ignorant beliefs of people on his time or things he heard, just he heard ancient physicians saying semen is ejected from the backbone and simply added it to the Quran
A book filled with such ignorant comments can never be from God.

Even your Hadith confirmed people during his time knew Mormo was fabricating stories claiming it's from God.

Sahih al-Bukhari 3617
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."

You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that?

Dtruthspeaker:
If you send your servant to meet a person, are you not the one who meets the person even if through a proxy or agent?

Is your servant not going on your command?

As I said, off point

Definitely not! Only your message remains original. Your servant cannot look like you. Completely illogical reasoning.

Eniitankorede:
Definitely not! Only your message remains original. Your servant cannot look like you. Completely illogical reasoning.

Did I say anything about your servant looking like you?
See how your reasoning is out of sync?

As I said,"off point".

Dtruthspeaker:
Did I say anything about your servant looking like you?
See how your reasoning is out of sync?

As I said,"off point".

You are not serious. You think I am here to drag semantics with you. Complete ignoramus.

Eniitankorede:
You are not serious. You think I am here to drag semantics with you. Complete ignoramus.

When the debate is lost, slander become the tool of the loser". Socrates.

Eniitankorede:
You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that?

Let me shock once again.

The fastest growing religious sect by conversion is Pentecostal Christianity.
Yes u heard right, the fastest growing religious movement by CONVERSION is not Islam BUT PENTECOSTAL MOVEMENT.
Christianity is not dying in UK, what is dying is church of England and rightly so.
A church that promotes homosexuality deserves to die. Any church that promotes humanity over spirituality will meets its end soon because people have finally realised u don't need religion to be a good person.

Orthodox all over the world are struggling. Even in Nigeria, Anglican, Methodist and even Catholic are experiencing dwindling fortune so it's not a UK problem alone.
What is growing by conversion is Pentecostal movement and it's faster than Islam.
According to Pew research, 1 million people converts to Islam every year while 4 million people converts to Christianity mainly Pentecostalism.

Eniitankorede:
You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that?

Since u are not ready to engage in the truth but prefers to deal with irrelevance such as numbers of adherents, let's deal with numbers in the Quran.

IS QURAN THE WORD OF GOD? LET'S FIND OUT.

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.

How many days did it take to create the Heavens and the Earth?

Quran-7:54: Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran- 11:7: He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that Allah ( God) created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated

Quran-41:9 : Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran-41:12: So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 2 (for heavens) = 4 days; and not 6 days.

So how long did it take Allah to create heaven and earth? Eniitankorede tell us.

SIRTee15:
Since u are not ready to engage in the truth but prefers to deal with irrelevance such as numbers of adherents, let's deal with numbers in the Quran.

IS QURAN THE WORD OF GOD? LET'S FIND OUT.

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.

How many days did it take to create the Heavens and the Earth?

Quran-7:54: Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran- 11:7: He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that Allah ( God) created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated

Quran-41:9 : Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran-41:12: So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 2 (for heavens) = 4 days; and not 6 days.

So how long did it take Allah to create heaven and earth? Eniitankorede tell us.

Im atheist fella, and if you want to play the contradiction game ALL religions are the same in that area and ALL religions have the same fatal flaw

The game is rigged, name 1 religion on earth where the god tells everyone the RULES TO HIS GAME DIRECTLY?

All religions are a cosmic game of Chinese whispers.

SIRTee15:
Since u are not ready to engage in the truth but prefers to deal with irrelevance such as numbers of adherents, let's deal with numbers in the Quran.

IS QURAN THE WORD OF GOD? LET'S FIND OUT.

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.

How many days did it take to create the Heavens and the Earth?

Quran-7:54: Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran- 11:7: He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that Allah ( God) created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated

Quran-41:9 : Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran-41:12: So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 2 (for heavens) = 4 days; and not 6 days.

So how long did it take Allah to create heaven and earth? Eniitankorede tell us.

"in Six Days

Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days"

Fella, really? You used the word verify? Thats an oxymoron! Literally all religions on the planet ARE UNFALSEAFIABLE not 1 thing about any religion on earth can be VARIFIED even my athiestic beliefs are UNFALSEAFIABLE.

😂😂 damn that was hilarious this fella really said "lets verify a god" 😂😂 hilarious thats the same as saying "lets measure infinity with a ruler" 😂😂

You just made my day and made me laugh like a lunatic

The moment you say "lets find out" you are demanding verification so picking any of the verses you quoted NONE can be verified at all ever. Not one of them. You cannot ask the god no one can for any religion and those people that "god spoke to me" = personal experience and also cannot be verified.

Lets find out = verification = impossible = all you can do is read it and decide if YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Fenrir:
Im atheist fella, and if you want to play the contradiction game ALL religions are the same in that area and ALL religions have the same fatal flaw

The game is rigged, name 1 religion on earth where the god tells everyone the RULES TO HIS GAME DIRECTLY?

All religions are a cosmic game of Chinese whispers.

I didn't quite u so allow the person I quoted to answer the question. Don't drink panadal for another's man headache.

They are the ones that said Quran is the verbatim word of God- the all knowing and all wise.
So let's check if the claim can be backed by evidence.

Eniitankorede:
You can’t shock me. But I will shock you, the religion with largest reverts in the world is Islam. You can’t compare the large number of Muslims to the small number in other religions. In fact, Christianity is fast declining in the west. Churches are turning to mosques in U.K. What is more shocking than that.

Forget about this bragging right about whose father's farm is the biggest.
Focus on the truth....

Is Quran the verbatim word of God?

Cosmological contradiction.

Allah created the Heaven first or, the Earth first (?)

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time He says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran-2:29: It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

Quran- 79:27-30: Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built ? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth.

Quran 41.9-12
Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds." And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask. Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly." And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.

Eniitankorede, kindly tell us which one did Allah created forst- heaven or earth.