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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:42pm On Jan 22
DSS wanted to prove that Tinubu isn't corrupt. So they presented a video of Tinubu saying "No more corruption" as the evidence.

How low can we go in this country? grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 8:59pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
So you made the claim but you dont have proof that FG controlled DSS arrested him? As usual same tactics
I made the claim? Really?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 9:07pm On Jan 22
Baba with the flows 😂😂😂😂

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 9:14pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
So you made the claim but you dont have proof that FG controlled DSS arrested him? As usual same tactics
Any thoughts? I think Asiwaju's position on Rivers State is getting clearer.

https://www.nairaland.com/8604448/fubara-leader-apc-rivers-thats
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:53pm On Jan 22
Ellexy:
I made the claim? Really?

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Any evidence that the Federal controlled DSS arrested him like you claimed?

Ellexy:
So why did the Federal controlled DSS arrest him for holding his state Governor accountable? Wetin concern FG for the matter?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:54pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
Any thoughts? I think Asiwaju's position on Rivers State is getting clearer.

https://www.nairaland.com/8604448/fubara-leader-apc-rivers-thats
Raumdeuter, just like all of us, will always shy from the truth, because of the party we like, and that's okay.

I told him that day that APC cannot discard Fubara. It's impossible.

The only way APC will discard Fubara, is if Wike decamps tonight. Infact, that's the only card left for him right now. APC will not support a PDP man to put a PDP man, when they can just win with incumbency.

And if Wike decamps to APC this night, the whole ADC will decamp to PDP immediately.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:56pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
Any thoughts? I think Asiwaju's position on Rivers State is getting clearer.

https://www.nairaland.com/8604448/fubara-leader-apc-rivers-thats
That is an official response, the reality on ground is different

Do you think Ambode and SanwoOlu were the number 1 in Lagos APC? It is whoever has proven he can deliver on ground that is number 1
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:01pm On Jan 22
izzou:
Rumdeuter, just like all of us, will always shy from the truth, because of the party we like, and that's okay.
I told him that day that APC cannot discard Fubara. It's impossible.
The only way APC will discard Fubara, is if Wike decamps tonight. Infact, that's the only card left for him right now. APC will not support a PDP man to put a PDP man, when they can just win with incumbency.
And if Wike decamps to APC this night, the whole ADC will decamp to PDP immediately.
That is Bwala speaking and giving official responses. This is not the first time a party at the center is aligning away from the party in the state and giving powers to someone else.

APC National is more likely to work with APGA Soludo than with APC Anambra, Same thing PDP National did with Obi in APGA

This is what the chairman of APC said 2 weeks ago

National Chairman of the All Progressives Congress (APC), Prof. Nentawe Yilwatda, says the ruling party is not under the control of any governor.

According to the chairman, governors do not have ultimate control over the party as decisions are often made at the national level.

“Across the country, nobody can take any section of the party. For anything you are going to do at the state level, it is planned at the National level. It is not planned at the state level. This is the APC structure and that is how we work.

“We work with structure. We don’t work with sentiments and emotions. Nobody has control over the party, even myself. No local government chairman has control over APC. No governor has control over APC. No senator or individual has control over APC, “ the chairman said.
https://www.nairaland.com/8594763/no-governor-control-over-apc
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 10:09pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
That is an official response, the reality on ground is different

Do you think Ambode and SanwoOlu were the number 1 in Lagos APC? It is whoever has proven he can deliver on ground that is number 1
This reads more than just an official response, particularly these excerpts..

“If they are given the resources that he has and unfettered access, they will do more.”

“he will give you latitude, he will give you privilege but not at the expense of the right thing to do and when you cross that line nobody will tell you, you will know.”

Ambode, SanwoOlu and Asiwaju are all in the same party. It is the highest assurance of party interest. Wike is playing both sides and I doubt the presidency has the highest assurances, especially with Fubara now in APC. There is a lot of calculation going on now between APC/ Rivers/ ADC.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 10:14pm On Jan 22
izzou:
Raumdeuter, just like all of us, will always shy from the truth, because of the party we like, and that's okay.

I told him that day that APC cannot discard Fubara. It's impossible.

The only way APC will discard Fubara, is if Wike decamps tonight. Infact, that's the only card left for him right now. APC will not support a PDP man to put a PDP man, when they can just win with incumbency.

And if Wike decamps to APC this night, the whole ADC will decamp to PDP immediately.
I agree. Wike decamping will only strengthen PDP, particularly its Northern base. It may be the rallying point they have been waiting for. ADC may not decamp into PDP but there would most definitely be an alliance/ alignment between both.

This is the most clarity we have seen from the Presidency on Rivers State.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:15pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
This reads more than just an official response, particularly these excerpts..

“If they are given the resources that he has and unfettered access, they will do more.”

“he will give you latitude, he will give you privilege but not at the expense of the right thing to do and when you cross that line nobody will tell you, you will know.”

Ambode, SanwoOlu and Asiwaju were all in the same party. It is the highest assurance of party interest. Wike is playing both sides and I doubt the presidency has the highest assurances, especially with Fubara now in APC. There is a lot of calculation going on now between APC/ Rivers/ ADC.
Do you think Wike does not have Tinubu's blessings to play both sides, or who has been the biggest beneficiary of his both sides play?

I will likely think he is still in PDP based on Tinubu's advice and to serve Tinubu's interest

If Wike is not serving Tinubu's interest, he would have been let go from the cabinet since not many non APC members are in his cabinet anyway
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:18pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
That is Bwala speaking and giving official responses. This is not the first time a party at the center is aligning away from the party in the state and giving powers to someone else.

APC National is more likely to work with APGA Soludo than with APC Anambra, Same thing PDP National did with Obi in APGA

This is what the chairman of APC said 2 weeks ago
You are comparing Apples and Oranges

APC National will work with APGA because APC in Anambra is not in power. If Soludo decamps to APC, why should APC National work with APGA again?

So Tony Okocha them that have been hungry for power since Heaven knows when, will be supporting PDP, when the present Governor is APC? Think am nau.

If Wike wants to remove Fubara tomorrow morning, he should decamp tonight, and I am very sure that Tinubu will back him. Even the APC Rivers will leave Fubara immediately and back him.

But you cannot be in PDP and dictate what happens somewhere else.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:21pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
I agree. Wike decamping will only strengthen PDP, particularly its Northern base. It may be the rallying point they have been waiting for. ADC may not decamp into PDP but there would most definitely be an alliance/ alignment between both.
This is the most clarity we have seen from the Presidency on Rivers State.
izzou:
Ramdeuter, just like all of us, will always shy from the truth, because of the party we like, and that's okay.
I told him that day that APC cannot discard Fubara. It's impossible.
The only way APC will discard Fubara, is if Wike decamps tonight. Infact, that's the only card left for him right now. APC will not support a PDP man to put a PDP man, when they can just win with incumbency.
And if Wike decamps to APC this night, the whole ADC will decamp to PDP immediately.
Wike aligned with APC first before Fubara, why do you think Wike has not formally decamped to APC? Th answer is the bold which both of you posted above and who do you think that staying in PDP benefits if not Tinubu?

So think about it, Wike is doing that type of heavy work for Tinubu basically occupying the biggest party that can challenge Tinubu and you think its that type of man Tinubu will turn his back against when going into an important election?

What can Fubara offer Tinubu that is as important as destabilizing the main opposition party ?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:21pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
I agree. Wike decamping will only strengthen PDP, particularly its Northern base. It may be the rallying point they have been waiting for. ADC may not decamp into PDP but there would most definitely be an alliance/ alignment between both.

This is the most clarity we have seen from the Presidency on Rivers State.
I didn't even need to hear Tinubu speak, before I knew that no right thinking politician, will discard Fubara, for another person in another party.

Doesn't make sense

Tinubu should remove Fubara, so Wike will win Rivers with PDP. So, what exactly will be APC's gain there?

If Wike wants to rig Rivers for BAT in 2027, Fubara can do it as a governor in APC.

So what exactly is Wike offering, that will make the APC of Nigeria, discard a sitting governor of their party for him?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 10:22pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
Do you think Wike does not have Tinubu's blessings to play both sides, or who has been the biggest beneficiary of his both sides play?

I will likely think he is still in PDP based on Tinubu's advice and to serve Tinubu's interest

If Wike is not serving Tinubu's interest, he would have been let go from the cabinet since not many non APC members are in his cabinet anyway
It is obvious Asiwaju as the leader of party is now under pressure and I believe he is reading and calculating the situation in the SS.

Wike played both sides for a reason and Asiwaju agreed when Wike was the only option. He has gotten his reward and this election cycle is looking different from the last.

With unfettered access to Rivers resources (Federal and State might), including the power of a sitting governor, Rivers State is more predictable than the previous cycle.

If Asiwaju decides to pull behind Fubara, there isn’t much Wike can do honestly. He can’t fight Asiwaju/ Presidency as it stands.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:24pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
Wike aligned with APC first before Fubara, why do you think Wike has not formally decamped to APC? Th answer is the bold and who do you think that staying in PDP benefits if not Tinubu?

So think about it, Wike is doing that type of heavy work for Tinubu basically occupying the biggest party that can challenge Tinubu and you think its that type of man Tinubu will turn his back against when going into an important election?

What can Fubara offer Tinubu that is as important as destabilizing the main opposition party ?
You are funny oh.

If Tinubu turns his back on Wike, what exactly will Wike do?

He destabilized PDP to even his own detriment.

If Tinubu discards him tomorrow, will PDP automatically win anything?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:25pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
It is obvious Asiwaju as the leader of party is now under pressure and I believe he is reading and calculating the situation in the SS.

Wike played both sides for a reason and Asiwaju agreed when Wike was the only option. He has gotten his reward and this election cycle is looking different from the last.

With unfettered access to Rivers resources (Federal and State might), including the power of a sitting governor, Rivers State is more predictable than the previous cycle.

If Asiwaju decides to pull behind Fubara, there isn’t much Wike can do honestly. He can’t fight Asiwaju/ Presidency as it stands.
As simple as that.

He has no friends in PDP. So if they fling him out, there's no where to run to.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:26pm On Jan 22
Roland17:
It is obvious Asiwaju as the leader of party is now under pressure and I believe he is reading and calculating the situation in the SS.

Wike played both sides for a reason and Asiwaju agreed when Wike was the only option. He has gotten his reward and this election cycle is looking different from the last.

With unfettered access to Rivers resources (Federal and State might), including the power of a sitting governor, Rivers State is more predictable than the previous cycle.

If Asiwaju decides to pull behind Fubara, there isn’t much Wike can do honestly. He can’t fight Asiwaju/ Presidency as it stands.
The bigger service Wike is offering is destabilizing PDP, delivering Rivers is just the icing on the cake. Wike can do both, Fubara has not proven he can do 1 and can never do the 2
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:27pm On Jan 22
izzou:
You are funny oh.

If Tinubu turns his back on Wike, what exactly will Wike do?

He destabilized PDP to even his own detriment.

If Tinubu discards him tomorrow, will PDP automatically win anything?
If Tinubu turns his back on Wike he will simply let go off PDP and before June everyone in ADC will be back to PDP a party that has structure all over 776 LGA and every ward in Nigeria

Tinubu will rather deal with ADC that is just starting to build structure than a PDP that has over 26yrs of structure on ground waiting to be activated

There is a reason Tinubu is still holding onto Wike till now
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:28pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
The bigger service Wike is offering is destabilizing PDP, delivering Rivers is just the icing on the cake. Wike can do both, Fubara has not proven he can do 1 and can never do the 2
PDP is destabilized already. There's nothing there for now.

Even Wike cannot revive it.

Tinubu's headache now is to destabilize ADC, of which Wike has no say.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:29pm On Jan 22
izzou:
As simple as that.

He has no friends in PDP. So if they fling him out, there's no where to run to.
How long does it take to make or renew friendship in politics especially when it comes to a common enemy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:30pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
If Tinubu turns his back on Wike he will simply let go off PDP and before June everyone in ADC will be back to PDP a party that has structure all over 776 LGA and every ward in Nigeria

Tinubu will rather deal with ADC that is just starting to build structure than a PDP that has over 26yrs of structure on ground waiting to be activated

There is a reason Tinubu is still holding onto Wike till now
ADC is building structure?

E be like say you no touch Nigeria this December.

ADC is your next and only opposition. By 2027, na only two parties go dey show for ballot.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:31pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
How long does it take to make or renew friends in politics
I don't know oh.

I'm just letting you know that PDP has no hope of Presidency in 2027.

Na only you dey see Wike as the destabilizer. Nothing remain there again
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:34pm On Jan 22
izzou:
PDP is destabilized already. There's nothing there for now.

Even Wike cannot revive it.

Tinubu's headache now is to destabilize ADC, of which Wike has no say.
LP was not even a serious party and was revived in how many months, Imagine PDP with the 2nd highest number of governors and Senators
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:35pm On Jan 22
izzou:
ADC is building structure?

E be like say you no touch Nigeria this December.

ADC is your next and only opposition. By 2027, na only two parties go dey show for ballot.
ADC is the next opposition but its inferior to what PDP can do if they are allowed to settle

PDP is like Man Utd, They have deep structures. its better not to allow them to settle and get their acts together cos they already have party loyalists and fans at every level
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:38pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
LP was not even a serious party and was revived in how many months, Imagine PDP with the 2nd highest number of governors and Senators
PDP doesn't even have any prospective candidate for 2027

All the big names you can think of are either in APC or ADC. Kwankwaso na the only free agent for now.

Even if Wike leaves PDP, those Governors will either choose APC or ADC in 2027.

No dey sugarcoat something wey no dey there. PDP is already out, and it can never be Tinubu's headache for 2027.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:39pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
ADC is the next opposition but its inferior to what PDP can do if they are allowed to settle

PDP is like Man Utd, They have deep structures. its better not to allow them to settle and get their acts together cos they already have party loyalists and fans at every level
By 2027, we will count how many senators and Governor's are left in PDP.

Maybe that's when you'll agree that the party is dead.

You'll eventually agree oh. But I'll give you the time
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:39pm On Jan 22
izzou:
I don't know oh.

I'm just letting you know that PDP has no hope of Presidency in 2027.

Na only you dey see Wike as the destabilizer. Nothing remain there again
PDP has no hope because it has been destabilize and Wike is still on their matter. If Wike steps away and let them regroup, they wll settle everything in weeks and all the ADC people will go back to PDP within weeks

That is the reason Wike has not officially left PDP and who does him destabilizing PDP benefit if not Tinubu. That is the reason Tinubu is still keeping him in his cabinet. Can Fubara deliver that?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:41pm On Jan 22
izzou:
PDP doesn't even have any prospective candidate for 2027

All the big names you can think of are either in APC or ADC. Kwankwaso na the only free agent for now.

Even if Wike leaves PDP, those Governors will either choose APC or ADC in 2027.

No dey sugarcoat something wey no dey there. PDP is already out, and it can never be Tinubu's headache for 2027.
Why does PDP not have a candidate in 2027? Because Wike has not removed his foot from their neck. That is why everyone in PDP still dey vex for Wike

They are mired in court cases to their neck. It doesnt take Wike anything to withdraw all those cases and PDP will gather back like nothing ever happened
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:44pm On Jan 22
izzou:
By 2027, we will count how many senators and Governor's are left in PDP.

Maybe that's when you'll agree that the party is dead.

You'll eventually agree oh. But I'll give you the time
The party is dying and will remain dead as long as Wike is doing the job of killing it and not letting it revive. The moment Wike decides to leave it alone, they will gather back

Fr every position PDP has, Wike has his own candidate. PDP chairman dey, WIke PDP chairman dey, PDP secretary dey, WIke PDP secretary dey

Which serious politician will contest in such a party for now? All if takes is for Wike to release his foot and PDP problems becomes solved
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 10:44pm On Jan 22
raumdeuter:
Any evidence that the Federal controlled DSS arrested him like you claimed?
Either you provide another evidence contrary to the one Popizaino posted else fails.....when you quickly jumped to commend the man for holding his governer accountable did you ask for evidence?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:54pm On Jan 22
Ellexy:
Either you provide another evidence contrary to the one Popizaino posted else fails.....when you quickly jumped to commend the man for holding his governer accountable did you ask for evidence?
I saw the video and watched the video of the man mentioning his governor and his state directly and not Tinubu or FG cos the road most likely will not a FG road

Now what evidence do you have that FG DSS arrested him
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