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Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 2:51am On Jan 25
Look at the map of Igbo land and the map of Yoruba land and consider the fact that both groups were not known to each other in the nineteenth century and consider the fact that both lands are fertile and well watered. I put it to my readers that there was no time before colonization that Yoruba land contained less than three times the population of Igbo land. Nowadays in Nigeria Yoruba are scattered and the SW currently contains around 2.8 times the population of the SE but both zones don't accurately encompass Yoruba or Igbo land.
In today's Africa, the Yoruba is more than double the Igbo in population. Any colonial census that says otherwise was rigged. In the US the Yoruba are like double Igbo according to the census of language spoken at home, in the UK it is almost triple. Yoruba Professors are almost three times the number of Igbo professors according to those that went through the NUC register. This means the cry of marginalization over the Presidency by Igbos should stop because you can only share equally with your equal even if there is zoning unless you want to cheat them.
The Igbos gain most in Nigeria because they have 5 states for 20 million people in the SE. They should have five states only if total number of states is like 60.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by kettykin:
This simply means yorubas are big enough to exist as a separate nation and not struggling to be part of Nigeria .

Stop struggling and constituting a nuisance to be a small struggling fish in a small pond be a big fish in your own lake
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by Ofodirinwa: 3:48am On Jan 25
lawani:
Look at the map of Igbo land and the map of Yoruba land and consider the fact that both groups were not known to each other in the nineteenth century and consider the fact that both lands are fertile and well watered. I put it to my readers that there was no time before colonization that Yoruba land contained less than three times the population of Igbo land. Nowadays in Nigeria Yoruba are scattered and the SW currently contains around 2.8 times the population of the SE but both zones don't accurately encompass Yoruba or Igbo land.
In today's Africa, the Yoruba is more than double the Igbo in population. Any colonial census that says otherwise was rigged. In the US the Yoruba are like double Igbo according to the census of language spoken at home, in the UK it is almost triple. Yoruba Professors are almost three times the number of Igbo professors according to those that went through the NUC register. This means the cry of marginalization over the Presidency by Igbos should stop because you can only share equally with your equal even if there is zoning unless you want to cheat them.
The Igbos gain most in Nigeria because they have 5 states for 20 million people in the SE. They should have five states only if total number of states is like 60.
Igbo and Yoruba were very aware of each other. If this is how your preceive history, you have to give yourself time a learn a little more. With that level of ignorance, it's easy to understand the shortcomings which made you type the rest of what you typed.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lionshare: 3:52am On Jan 25
Ofodirinwa:
Igbo and Yoruba were very aware of each other. If this is how your preceive history, you have to give yourself time a learn a little more. With that level of ignorance, it's easy to understand the shortcomings which made you type the rest of what you typed.
please enlighten us —I’d always thought there’s got to be some form of meeting point maybe via trade or something.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by 1Alex: 4:09am On Jan 25
This post is what happens when vibes replace evidence and Google Maps becomes a census bureau.

You start with “look at the map” like population density is measured in square centimeters. Fertile land doesn’t auto-spawn humans like a video game. History, migration, disease, wars, trade routes, and urbanization exist. You skipped all of that.

Then you declare every colonial census you don’t like “rigged” but treat UK, US language-at-home data like holy scripture, data that literally measures immigration patterns, not population size in Nigeria. That’s not analysis. That’s display of ignorance with confidence.

“Yoruba professors are three times Igbo professors.”
Cool story. Now explain how a modern NUC register rewrites 19th-century demography. Or are professors now a proxy for ancestors?

You also casually ignore:

Yoruba land having early large centralized kingdoms and earlier colonial urban pull (Lagos, a good example),

Igbo society being decentralized and rural for longer (which affects records), massive Igbo post-war migration inside Nigeria that doesn’t show up in your neat zonal math.

The real comedy is the moral leap:

“Therefore Igbo should stop talking about marginalization.”

So your logic is: questionable population math, diaspora headcount, professor tally, presidential entitlement.

That’s not political science. That’s numerology with ethnic confidence.

And the “5 states for 20 million people” line? States aren’t sharing-size pizza slices. They’re administrative tools, created historically and politically, often unfairly; for everyone. Pretending one group is “gaining most” in Nigeria is wild when the whole country is struggling.

In short:
This post isn’t bold. It’s loud.
It isn’t rigorous. It’s selective.
And it doesn’t end marginalization debates; it proves why they never end.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by givedemwotowoto:
Another Igbo hating thread forced into our consciousness out of the blues

Seun nlfpmod this thread makes second page and calls are ignored
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by Zionmdde: 6:00am On Jan 25
lawani:
Look at the map of Igbo land and the map of Yoruba land and consider the fact that both groups were not known to each other in the nineteenth century and consider the fact that both lands are fertile and well watered. I put it to my readers that there was no time before colonization that Yoruba land contained less than three times the population of Igbo land. Nowadays in Nigeria Yoruba are scattered and the SW currently contains around 2.8 times the population of the SE but both zones don't accurately encompass Yoruba or Igbo land.
In today's Africa, the Yoruba is more than double the Igbo in population. Any colonial census that says otherwise was rigged. In the US the Yoruba are like double Igbo according to the census of language spoken at home, in the UK it is almost triple. Yoruba Professors are almost three times the number of Igbo professors according to those that went through the NUC register. This means the cry of marginalization over the Presidency by Igbos should stop because you can only share equally with your equal even if there is zoning unless you want to cheat them.
The Igbos gain most in Nigeria because they have 5 states for 20 million people in the SE. They should have five states only if total number of states is like 60.
You woke up by 2:51am to post thishuh Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all the large expanse of land in yoruba, don't you think you should be more bothered about how many plots you ownhuh?

Chaiiiiii, tribalism is really making people go crazy, or is it joblessness? Na wa ooo
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by Fejoku: 6:06am On Jan 25
Thread was started 2:51am. This tells you how Igbo problem has colonized op's mind. You can imagine how consumed he is inside of him.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by izombie(m): 7:06am On Jan 25
lawani:
Look at the map of Igbo land and the map of Yoruba land and consider the fact that both groups were not known to each other in the nineteenth century and consider the fact that both lands are fertile and well watered. I put it to my readers that there was no time before colonization that Yoruba land contained less than three times the population of Igbo land. Nowadays in Nigeria Yoruba are scattered and the SW currently contains around 2.8 times the population of the SE but both zones don't accurately encompass Yoruba or Igbo land.
In today's Africa, the Yoruba is more than double the Igbo in population. Any colonial census that says otherwise was rigged. In the US the Yoruba are like double Igbo according to the census of language spoken at home, in the UK it is almost triple. Yoruba Professors are almost three times the number of Igbo professors according to those that went through the NUC register. This means the cry of marginalization over the Presidency by Igbos should stop because you can only share equally with your equal even if there is zoning unless you want to cheat them.
The Igbos gain most in Nigeria because they have 5 states for 20 million people in the SE. They should have five states only if total number of states is like 60.
Just look at the rubb1sh someone woke up at 2am to write. Na wa for some people. And you wonder why yoruba will keep suffering in nigeria than have their oduduwa republic.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by izombie(m): 7:08am On Jan 25
Zionmdde:
You woke up by 2:51am to post thishuh Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With all the large expanse of land in yoruba, don't you think you should be more bothered about how many plots you ownhuh?

Chaiiiiii, tribalism is really making people go crazy, or is it joblessness? Na wa ooo
Just imagine. 2am, he couldn't sleep because of tribalism. Na wao
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 8:18am On Jan 25
1Alex:
This post is what happens when vibes replace evidence and Google Maps becomes a census bureau.

You start with “look at the map” like population density is measured in square centimeters. Fertile land doesn’t auto-spawn humans like a video game. History, migration, disease, wars, trade routes, and urbanization exist. You skipped all of that.

Then you declare every colonial census you don’t like “rigged” but treat UK, US language-at-home data like holy scripture, data that literally measures immigration patterns, not population size in Nigeria. That’s not analysis. That’s display of ignorance with confidence.

“Yoruba professors are three times Igbo professors.”
Cool story. Now explain how a modern NUC register rewrites 19th-century demography. Or are professors now a proxy for ancestors?

You also casually ignore:

Yoruba land having early large centralized kingdoms and earlier colonial urban pull (Lagos, a good example),

Igbo society being decentralized and rural for longer (which affects records), massive Igbo post-war migration inside Nigeria that doesn’t show up in your neat zonal math.

The real comedy is the moral leap:

“Therefore Igbo should stop talking about marginalization.”

So your logic is: questionable population math, diaspora headcount, professor tally, presidential entitlement.

That’s not political science. That’s numerology with ethnic confidence.

And the “5 states for 20 million people” line? States aren’t sharing-size pizza slices. They’re administrative tools, created historically and politically, often unfairly; for everyone. Pretending one group is “gaining most” in Nigeria is wild when the whole country is struggling.

In short:
This post isn’t bold. It’s loud.
It isn’t rigorous. It’s selective.
And it doesn’t end marginalization debates; it proves why they never end.
What is causing all the vitriol being poured by zealous Igbos on Yoruba online? Isn't that a concern to you? If we are going to ditch competence and go for only zoning then it should be fair or shouldn't it? You can't share equally between 20 million and 50 million. Igbos somehow think they have the population but all evidence say they don't. Someone needs to point attention to it. When you talk about what you are missing, also know what you are gaining. Oyo and Ogun are about the same population as the entire SE and they are two states.

I believe any group that wants a state should be given but states should not have the same representation at the center. What I am however working for is a disintegration of the country
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op):
izombie:
Just imagine. 2am, he couldn't sleep because of tribalism. Na wao
Who can sleep with the way many Igbos go about online?. I am not saying the Yoruba are not doing theirs. I am not a supporter of Tinubu but he contested from a party he founded and that can't be faulted. You need to fight the PDP that refused to give ticket to Obi
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 8:25am On Jan 25
kettykin:
This simply means yorubas are big enough to exist as a separate nation and not struggling to be part of Nigeria .

Stop struggling and constituting a nuisance to be a small struggling fish in a small pond be a big fish in your own lake
Even if Yoruba are 500k they are enough to form their own country
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 8:28am On Jan 25
Ofodirinwa:
Igbo and Yoruba were very aware of each other. If this is how your preceive history, you have to give yourself time a learn a little more. With that level of ignorance, it's easy to understand the shortcomings which made you type the rest of what you typed.
We only became aware of each other in the 20th century.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by SisterAnn(f): 9:33am On Jan 25
lawani:
Look at the map of Igbo land and the map of Yoruba land and consider the fact that both groups were not known to each other in the nineteenth century and consider the fact that both lands are fertile and well watered. I put it to my readers that there was no time before colonization that Yoruba land contained less than three times the population of Igbo land. Nowadays in Nigeria Yoruba are scattered and the SW currently contains around 2.8 times the population of the SE but both zones don't accurately encompass Yoruba or Igbo land.
In today's Africa, the Yoruba is more than double the Igbo in population. Any colonial census that says otherwise was rigged. In the US the Yoruba are like double Igbo according to the census of language spoken at home, in the UK it is almost triple. Yoruba Professors are almost three times the number of Igbo professors according to those that went through the NUC register. This means the cry of marginalization over the Presidency by Igbos should stop because you can only share equally with your equal even if there is zoning unless you want to cheat them.
The Igbos gain most in Nigeria because they have 5 states for 20 million people in the SE. They should have five states only if total number of states is like 60.
Yorubas were/are very disposed to marrying multiple wives now and then which means more children. If your assertion is scientifically proven to be true, then that's the only explanation to it

The jihadists are taking over UK, their game plan is to birth like rats with their multiple wives.. wives who don't contribute anything to the economy of UK.. UK pay them instead.
These children they are birthing would sure grow to voting age and their sheer population would be used to edge out all other contestants who are not jihadists.

My point is, multiple marriages automatically will translate to multiple children which will account for more numbers in a census exercise.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by SisterAnn(f): 9:36am On Jan 25
lawani:
We only became aware of each other in the 20th century.
I wished our paths never crossed on this planet.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 9:37am On Jan 25
SisterAnn:
Yorubas were/are very disposed to marrying multiple wives now and then which means more children. If your assertion is scientifically proven to be true, then that's the only explanation to it

The jihadists are taking over UK, their game plan is to birth like rats with their multiple wives.. wives who don't contribute anything to the economy of UK.. UK pay them instead.
These children they are birthing would sure grow to voting age and their sheer population would be used to edge out all other contestants who are not jihadists.

My point is, multiple marriages automatically will translate to multiple children which will account for more numbers in a census exercise.
Multiple wives or not, it is your living space under your control as a people, comprising of arable land and fresh water that will determine your population overtime. Igbos too marry multiple wives and many groups that marry multiple wives but have small living space still have low population
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 9:39am On Jan 25
SisterAnn:
I wished our paths never crossed on this planet.
Can you tell me why? I have many Igbo inlaws
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by SisterAnn(f): 9:48am On Jan 25
lawani:
Multiple wives or not, it is your living space under your control as a people, comprising of arable land and fresh water that will determine your population overtime. Igbos too marry multiple wives and many groups that marry multiple wives but have small living space still have low population
You are now lumping SE and SS(mostly riverine) by this post from you, otherwise, core SE have more than enough space to live and expand.

Yes, multiple wives were not forbidden in old and modern Igbo culture, it pales into insignificance when compared to it's prevalence in SW, where Islam also added an additional force to the narrative.

Today, an Igbo man with multiple wives is viewed as a crazy person but in SW, they are celebrated and encouraged.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 9:52am On Jan 25
SisterAnn:
You are now lumping SE and SS(mostly riverine) by this post from you, otherwise, core SE have more than enough space to live and expand.

Yes, multiple wives were not forbidden in old and modern Igbo culture, it pales into insignificance when compared to it's prevalence in SW, where Islam also added an additional force to the narrative.

Today, an Igbo man with multiple wives is viewed as a crazy person but in SW, they are celebrated and encouraged.
SE isn't big. It is around same size as Oyo state but it is more watered than Oyo state. Only a few people marry multiple wives and I don't believe it makes much difference
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by SisterAnn(f): 9:52am On Jan 25
lawani:
Can you tell me why? I have many Igbo inlaws
I have many Yoruba in-laws too.

Both tribes are parallel lines that have nothing in common. Their proximities have forstered more suspicions than collaboration. The peace is fragile.
Imagine, a marriage between a man and woman where they live like this, is it healthy for either party?

Yet, you know there's nothing you can do about the situation, a jinxed situation.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by Putinofrussia: 9:54am On Jan 25
SisterAnn:
I wished our paths never crossed on this planet.
But your people kept/keep coming to Yorubaland in millions.
Who was/is to blame?
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by SisterAnn(f): 9:55am On Jan 25
lawani:
SE isn't big. It is around same size as Oyo state but it is more watered than Oyo state. Only a few people marry multiple wives and I don't believe it makes much difference
Okay. I didn't waddle into your thread for the back and forth.

I'm at home when I should have been somewhere else and the beans and pap I grubbed was too much on me.

I need to go back to sleep.

Stay safe.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by SisterAnn(f): 9:58am On Jan 25
Putinofrussia:
But your people kept/keep coming to Yorubaland in millions.
Who was/is to blame?
Still, that hand of fellowship has not erased the tension and suspicion between both tribes.
One would have thought it would.

That's why I regret our paths ever crossing on this planet.
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by lawani(op): 10:02am On Jan 25
SisterAnn:
I have many Yoruba in-laws too.

Both tribes are parallel lines that have nothing in common. Their proximities have forstered more suspicions than collaboration. The peace is fragile.
Imagine, a marriage between a man and woman where they live like this, is it healthy for either party?

Yet, you know there's nothing you can do about the situation, a jinxed situation.
If Igbo can agree to adopt Yoruba as lingua franca for the center while they keep Igbo in their states then a new constitution that will be just and fair can be written if all parties agree. Yoruba is too big to be using a foreign language for government business or in the universities. We need to preserve what we have for the rest of humanity by all means and Nigeria can't give us that. I however think Igbos are also big enough to be alone. The rivalry between Yoruba and Igbo is not more than what was between Ibadan and Ijebu in the nineteenth century
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by T9ksy(m): 10:49am On Jan 25
SisterAnn:
I wished our paths never crossed on this planet.
Touchè.............
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by gidgiddy: 11:19am On Jan 25
lawani:
Look at the map of Igbo land and the map of Yoruba land and consider the fact that both groups were not known to each other in the nineteenth century and consider the fact that both lands are fertile and well watered. I put it to my readers that there was no time before colonization that Yoruba land contained less than three times the population of Igbo land. Nowadays in Nigeria Yoruba are scattered and the SW currently contains around 2.8 times the population of the SE but both zones don't accurately encompass Yoruba or Igbo land.
In today's Africa, the Yoruba is more than double the Igbo in population. Any colonial census that says otherwise was rigged. In the US the Yoruba are like double Igbo according to the census of language spoken at home, in the UK it is almost triple. Yoruba Professors are almost three times the number of Igbo professors according to those that went through the NUC register. This means the cry of marginalization over the Presidency by Igbos should stop because you can only share equally with your equal even if there is zoning unless you want to cheat them.
The Igbos gain most in Nigeria because they have 5 states for 20 million people in the SE. They should have five states only if total number of states is like 60.
You are not ashamed of your self? You are here talking about population when small countries like Singapore with a population of just 6 million people, has a bigger GDP than all of Nigeria

Igbos and Yorubas have no business being together in the same country
Re: Yoruba Land And Igbo Land by santopelele(m): 11:37am On Jan 25
As early as 2AM while others are busy and resting their brains, you are restless thinking about igbo land. Shame unto you op
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